Comments on: Is Gun Control a Gay Issue? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:41:57 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Pink Pistols: Can Guns Protect Gays? - Page 3 - Southern Maryland Community Forums http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110745 Pink Pistols: Can Guns Protect Gays? - Page 3 - Southern Maryland Community Forums Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:14:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-110745 [...] Posted by nhboy Here is another view on the subject: Link ....butt you frequent some very strange websites. __________________ "Criminals thrive [...] [...] Posted by nhboy Here is another view on the subject: Link ….butt you frequent some very strange websites. __________________ "Criminals thrive [...]

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-109097 ThatGayConservative Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:00:58 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-109097 <em> I think forcing you to watch the episode of "All in the Family" where Archie went on television giving his opinion on arming all passengers to avoid hijacking would suffice. </em>So now you're in favor of torture. Nice consistency there. <em> And do you mind showing this evidence of liberals arresting people for crimes they didn’t commit? </em> You are an idiot.  I think forcing you to watch the episode of "All in the Family" where Archie went on television giving his opinion on arming all passengers to avoid hijacking would suffice.

So now you’re in favor of torture. Nice consistency there.

And do you mind showing this evidence of liberals arresting people for crimes they didn’t commit? 

You are an idiot.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-108870 Kevin Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:06 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-108870 9:  I think forcing you to watch the episode of "All in the Family" where Archie went on television giving his opinion on arming all passengers to avoid hijacking would suffice. And do you mind showing this evidence of liberals arresting people for crimes they didn't commit?   9:  I think forcing you to watch the episode of "All in the Family" where Archie went on television giving his opinion on arming all passengers to avoid hijacking would suffice.
And do you mind showing this evidence of liberals arresting people for crimes they didn’t commit?  

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-107720 ThatGayConservative Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:14:42 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-107720 <em>We could go even further; why don’t we just round up and arrest people for a crime that they might commit in the future? </em>We'll leave that to the liberals. Helloooo "<em>hate crimes"</em>. But I digress. If you carried a weapon and were willing to use it, you'd be less likely to be considered a victim. No wonder liberals hate gun owners. BTW, what exactly were you planning to do when you came to my house? We could go even further; why don’t we just round up and arrest people for a crime that they might commit in the future?

We’ll leave that to the liberals. Helloooo "hate crimes". But I digress. If you carried a weapon and were willing to use it, you’d be less likely to be considered a victim. No wonder liberals hate gun owners.

BTW, what exactly were you planning to do when you came to my house?

]]> By: Kevin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-107455 Kevin Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:03:38 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-107455 I love how out-of-control gun advocates (unlike responsible gun-owners I know) have taken the fear-mongering tactics of terrorism and now use it as a new tactic for unchecked gun ownership.  For people who constantly blather on about how great America is and how our compassion and love has no equal in the world, it's interesting that when it comes to guns, that the attitude given here is that every person you encounter is a potential nutcase who is concealing a weapon and is intent upon murdering you.  In addition to guns, why not make it fully legal to carry all sorts of weapons (being that he did use a hatchet as a weapon in that bar).  We could go even further; why don't we just round up and arrest people for a crime that they might commit in the future?  Surely we just *know* that there are certain groups of people who are clearly undesirable and might commit some type of crime.  Oh, I know...since a small percentage of gay men might commit sexual abuse on a minor, then how about all gay men get rounded up so we can avoid that crime being committed? As horrible as *real* crime is (and I'm not including the multitudes now being locked up for personal recreational drug use), it's something that we have to deal with to continue living in a free society.   By any chance, can you tell me of a stable, peaceable society in this world in which all its citizens are armed every second of every day? By the way....any information on this nutcase in MA obtained the guns he had in his possession?   I love how out-of-control gun advocates (unlike responsible gun-owners I know) have taken the fear-mongering tactics of terrorism and now use it as a new tactic for unchecked gun ownership.  For people who constantly blather on about how great America is and how our compassion and love has no equal in the world, it’s interesting that when it comes to guns, that the attitude given here is that every person you encounter is a potential nutcase who is concealing a weapon and is intent upon murdering you.  In addition to guns, why not make it fully legal to carry all sorts of weapons (being that he did use a hatchet as a weapon in that bar).  We could go even further; why don’t we just round up and arrest people for a crime that they might commit in the future?  Surely we just *know* that there are certain groups of people who are clearly undesirable and might commit some type of crime.  Oh, I know…since a small percentage of gay men might commit sexual abuse on a minor, then how about all gay men get rounded up so we can avoid that crime being committed?
As horrible as *real* crime is (and I’m not including the multitudes now being locked up for personal recreational drug use), it’s something that we have to deal with to continue living in a free society.  
By any chance, can you tell me of a stable, peaceable society in this world in which all its citizens are armed every second of every day?
By the way….any information on this nutcase in MA obtained the guns he had in his possession?  

]]> By: LifeTrek http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-105372 LifeTrek Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:22:26 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-105372 Hey this post made it on Red Eye Thursday night! Congrats. DKK Hey this post made it on Red Eye Thursday night!
Congrats.
DKK

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-105208 ThatGayConservative Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:09:37 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-105208 Not in Texas, but I remember going to the clubs and seeing gays checking their gun at the door. What gets me, my brother is a bouncer at a (straight) club in the Ft. Lauderdale area. They get a lot of clientele and celebs from Miami. He's positive that several patrons at any given time are carrying, but bar security can't. Not in Texas, but I remember going to the clubs and seeing gays checking their gun at the door. What gets me, my brother is a bouncer at a (straight) club in the Ft. Lauderdale area. They get a lot of clientele and celebs from Miami. He’s positive that several patrons at any given time are carrying, but bar security can’t.

]]> By: The Carden Chronicles http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-105145 The Carden Chronicles Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:18:37 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-105145 <strong>DC v. Heller- 5 Days To Go</strong> It is now less than five days to go before oral arguments are heard in the case, District of Columbia v. Heller. Oral arguments before the Supreme Court will be heard on March 18, 2008 and I will provide a link to the audio and transcripts just as so... DC v. Heller- 5 Days To Go

It is now less than five days to go before oral arguments are heard in the case, District of Columbia v. Heller. Oral arguments before the Supreme Court will be heard on March 18, 2008 and I will provide a link to the audio and transcripts just as so…

]]> By: Robert http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-105099 Robert Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:48:11 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-105099 Great article. Laws will not prevent an evil and/or deranged person from comitting a brutal crime. For the record, though, most states prohibit firearms in bars (CCW or not). I hold a CCW license in Kansas and it's not legal to carry a firearm into a bar. I don't know whether or not bar employees can carry. So, in Kansas (and probably even in Texas), odds are that none of the bar patrons would have a gun. Nevertheless, all Massachusetts has managed to accomplish is to ensure a pool if defenseless victims for predators. I am moving to SoCal in the near future (no more CCW for me) and have been studying up on Cali gun laws. There are a lot of them and, based on the news of late, they're not having much effect on the gang-bangers. I'll just have to get a Taser. Great article. Laws will not prevent an evil and/or deranged person from comitting a brutal crime.

For the record, though, most states prohibit firearms in bars (CCW or not). I hold a CCW license in Kansas and it’s not legal to carry a firearm into a bar. I don’t know whether or not bar employees can carry.

So, in Kansas (and probably even in Texas), odds are that none of the bar patrons would have a gun.

Nevertheless, all Massachusetts has managed to accomplish is to ensure a pool if defenseless victims for predators.

I am moving to SoCal in the near future (no more CCW for me) and have been studying up on Cali gun laws. There are a lot of them and, based on the news of late, they’re not having much effect on the gang-bangers.

I’ll just have to get a Taser.

]]> By: BobG http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-104994 BobG Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:50:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-104994 I don’t believe that this is what the "Founder’s and Framers" meant…. "The great object is, that every man be armed." -Patrick Henry "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater... confidence than an armed man."  -Thomas Jefferson I think that tells us what the "Founder’s and Framers" meant. I don’t believe that this is what the "Founder’s and Framers" meant….

"The great object is, that every man be armed."
-Patrick Henry

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater… confidence than an armed man."
 -Thomas Jefferson

I think that tells us what the "Founder’s and Framers" meant.

]]> By: Phil http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-104867 Phil Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:41:23 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-104867 Excellent article.  As a fellow (but not-gay) conservative, I've waited for the minority groups that have the most to benefit from firearm ownership to stand up and make use of their rights.  Excellent article.  As a fellow (but not-gay) conservative, I’ve waited for the minority groups that have the most to benefit from firearm ownership to stand up and make use of their rights. 

]]> By: Matt http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-104809 Matt Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:54:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/13/is-gun-control-a-gay-issue/#comment-104809 Perhaps the most significant arguement from the "Pink Pistols" in this case is that the District of Columbia's position would mean that the Second Amendment does not apply to gays. DC argues that the Second Amendment only applies to people who are "in the militia."  Those who are not members of "the militia" should not be permitted to own or carry guns... "Don't Ask Don't Tell" aside, that would mean that because gays are barred from "militia" service, gays should not be allowed to own guns.   Further that would mean that people with "flat feet" who are disqualified from "milita" service could not own guns.  The handicapped could not own guns.  People over the age of 45 who are not members of a militia could not own guns because their age is outside the requirments of militia service.  Anyone over 65 could not own a gun.   I don't believe that this is what the "Founder's and Framers" meant.... Perhaps the most significant arguement from the "Pink Pistols" in this case is that the District of Columbia’s position would mean that the Second Amendment does not apply to gays.

DC argues that the Second Amendment only applies to people who are "in the militia."  Those who are not members of "the militia" should not be permitted to own or carry guns…

"Don’t Ask Don’t Tell" aside, that would mean that because gays are barred from "militia" service, gays should not be allowed to own guns.   Further that would mean that people with "flat feet" who are disqualified from "milita" service could not own guns.  The handicapped could not own guns.  People over the age of 45 who are not members of a militia could not own guns because their age is outside the requirments of militia service.  Anyone over 65 could not own a gun.  

I don’t believe that this is what the "Founder’s and Framers" meant….

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