Comments on: DNC Chair Dean Thinks Gays Have No Place in GOP http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:47:05 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: GayPatriot » There Howard Dean Goes Again! http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-291011 GayPatriot » There Howard Dean Goes Again! Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:31:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-291011 [...] has made such false assumptions. Back in March, we reported the Democrat’s claim that “that the Republican Party has scapegoated every ethnic group and therefore can’t create a multicul....”  He provided no evidence to back up that [...] [...] has made such false assumptions. Back in March, we reported the Democrat’s claim that “that the Republican Party has scapegoated every ethnic group and therefore can’t create a multicul….”  He provided no evidence to back up that [...]

]]> By: anonymous http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-121158 anonymous Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:13:42 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-121158 I find it hard to imagine how either side of this debate is a useful exercise.  All I see is many passionate people rationalizing why that passion is directed toward a meaningless allegiance to political parties that do not represent them.  I see the term Islamofascism thrown around a lot and fail to see why I should prioritize fighting an already rejected ideology over fighting my compatriot religious fascists that dictate public policy at home.  In my eyes, nationalism has never served the purposes of a minority other than the rich establishment.  Posting witty sophistry attributed to Churchill (as seen above, not in the article) does little in the way of argumentation.  If anything, a mature individual should be a cynic and able to recognize that conformism is more like a lobotomy and less a precious acquisition of wisdom over the course of time negatively correlated to the level of hormones circulating through ones blood vessels.  I can only pray for a world where the solution to stupidity is simply to wait a few years and the champions of virtue and progress are the conservative elders.  Presenting the war on terror as an act of solidarity toward gays and lesbians abroad is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard, and the assertion that gay rights activism can even remotely benefit from it, in my mind, more readily requires substantiantion than Howard Dean's claims. I find it hard to imagine how either side of this debate is a useful exercise.  All I see is many passionate people rationalizing why that passion is directed toward a meaningless allegiance to political parties that do not represent them.  I see the term Islamofascism thrown around a lot and fail to see why I should prioritize fighting an already rejected ideology over fighting my compatriot religious fascists that dictate public policy at home.  In my eyes, nationalism has never served the purposes of a minority other than the rich establishment.  Posting witty sophistry attributed to Churchill (as seen above, not in the article) does little in the way of argumentation.  If anything, a mature individual should be a cynic and able to recognize that conformism is more like a lobotomy and less a precious acquisition of wisdom over the course of time negatively correlated to the level of hormones circulating through ones blood vessels.  I can only pray for a world where the solution to stupidity is simply to wait a few years and the champions of virtue and progress are the conservative elders.  Presenting the war on terror as an act of solidarity toward gays and lesbians abroad is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard, and the assertion that gay rights activism can even remotely benefit from it, in my mind, more readily requires substantiantion than Howard Dean’s claims.

]]> By: the friendly grizzly http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-118800 the friendly grizzly Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:32:35 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-118800 The rich who are Democrats are usually ones who inherit the wealth (Kennedys), or came about it by nefarious means (currency manipulation, bootleg liquor, etc).  Seldom is it the rich who started with nothing or very little, then put in 120 hour weeks for years.  There are exceptions to the rule certainly, but this has been my observation. The rich who are Democrats are usually ones who inherit the wealth (Kennedys), or came about it by nefarious means (currency manipulation, bootleg liquor, etc).  Seldom is it the rich who started with nothing or very little, then put in 120 hour weeks for years.  There are exceptions to the rule certainly, but this has been my observation.

]]> By: heliotrope http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-118034 heliotrope Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:45:23 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-118034 Aw, c'mon, many dems just want full state socialism and are really annoyed at the thick-headed, cold hearted imbeciles who value independence, responsibility and the chance to keep increasing their standard of living. Hate and communism are not probably not up in the 90% levels. Let's cut them a bit more slack. Aw, c’mon, many dems just want full state socialism and are really annoyed at the thick-headed, cold hearted imbeciles who value independence, responsibility and the chance to keep increasing their standard of living. Hate and communism are not probably not up in the 90% levels. Let’s cut them a bit more slack.

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-117717 Vince P Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:42:19 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-117717 <i>1: Because you, like most conservatives who attack Democrats, want people to falsely believe that all Democrats are communists who hate America. Comment by Kevin </I> I'm sure there's 1% who don't. 1: Because you, like most conservatives who attack Democrats, want people to falsely believe that all Democrats are communists who hate America.

Comment by Kevin

I’m sure there’s 1% who don’t.

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-117582 North Dallas Thirty Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:58:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-117582 Well, Kevin, given that they and their "spiritual mentors" are all screaming "God damn America", it should be fairly obvious that they do. Well, Kevin, given that they and their "spiritual mentors" are all screaming "God damn America", it should be fairly obvious that they do.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-117483 Kevin Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:44:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-117483 1:  Because you, like most conservatives who attack Democrats, want people to falsely believe that all Democrats are communists who hate America. 1:  Because you, like most conservatives who attack Democrats, want people to falsely believe that all Democrats are communists who hate America.

]]> By: Parker http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-117375 Parker Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:25:01 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-117375 Apparently, Dean, from his recent remakes doesn't want homo's in the DNC party either! Donna Brazile damn sure does not want gays in the DNC. Apparently, Dean, from his recent remakes doesn’t want homo’s in the DNC party either! Donna Brazile damn sure does not want gays in the DNC.

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-117138 North Dallas Thirty Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:31:06 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-117138 Or someone who has realized that Democrat voters hate the rich, but as long as you repeat their hate, they won't actually ask you to do anything. Hence how Barack Obama can rail against substandard housing and poverty while raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Chicago slumlords and getting sweetheart real estate deals for his mansion. Or someone who has realized that Democrat voters hate the rich, but as long as you repeat their hate, they won’t actually ask you to do anything.

Hence how Barack Obama can rail against substandard housing and poverty while raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Chicago slumlords and getting sweetheart real estate deals for his mansion.

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116738 ThatGayConservative Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:44:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116738 <em> What I want to know is why a rich person would be a Democrat? </em> Guilt. What I want to know is why a rich person would be a Democrat?

Guilt.

]]> By: Mark J. Goluskin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116737 Mark J. Goluskin Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:43:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116737 I think it is like the wife who keeps getting beaten by the husband. He says that he is sorry and nary a day later, he beats her once again. That is the Democrat party and the way they treat gays and lesbians. They like to get their vote, but when it comes to pushing the envelope, like you know, when are you going to pursue legalizing same-sex marriage, then there is the claptrap and thus the, well not now from said Democrat. At least the Republican party does not favor same-sex marriage, it does not look at people as a special interest group. There is more to life for most gay and lesbian people than whether or not there will be same-sex marriage or not. There is that funny little thing called the War Against Islamofacist Terror. As I have written many a time before, it really won't matter if the Islamofacists were to win. For it will be the gays and lesbians the first to lose their heads. And is it not more important to have individual freedom that group thought? And to be used and spit out like cheap chaw when said voter wants results? Same people should be tired of this and be some of the first to get out of the groupthought and leave the wife beaters. I think it is like the wife who keeps getting beaten by the husband. He says that he is sorry and nary a day later, he beats her once again. That is the Democrat party and the way they treat gays and lesbians. They like to get their vote, but when it comes to pushing the envelope, like you know, when are you going to pursue legalizing same-sex marriage, then there is the claptrap and thus the, well not now from said Democrat. At least the Republican party does not favor same-sex marriage, it does not look at people as a special interest group. There is more to life for most gay and lesbian people than whether or not there will be same-sex marriage or not. There is that funny little thing called the War Against Islamofacist Terror. As I have written many a time before, it really won’t matter if the Islamofacists were to win. For it will be the gays and lesbians the first to lose their heads. And is it not more important to have individual freedom that group thought? And to be used and spit out like cheap chaw when said voter wants results? Same people should be tired of this and be some of the first to get out of the groupthought and leave the wife beaters.

]]> By: heliotrope http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116666 heliotrope Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:06:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116666 Dean is correct. (I almost said "right.") If your crotch rules your brain, your only home is with the Democrats. If you can think beyond your next orgasm, the Republicans offer a lot of substance. I fully expect for the Dems to start mailing out sex toys for votes. There is a huge difference between pandering and respect. Dean is correct. (I almost said "right.") If your crotch rules your brain, your only home is with the Democrats. If you can think beyond your next orgasm, the Republicans offer a lot of substance. I fully expect for the Dems to start mailing out sex toys for votes. There is a huge difference between pandering and respect.

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116607 Peter Hughes Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:30:55 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116607 And as I'm always fond of pointing out:  Republicans like you for WHO you are. Democrats like you for WHAT you are. That is why I'm a Republican.  And damn proud of it, too. Regards,Peter H. And as I’m always fond of pointing out:  Republicans like you for WHO you are.
Democrats like you for WHAT you are.
That is why I’m a Republican.  And damn proud of it, too.
Regards,Peter H.

]]> By: Parker http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116603 Parker Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:23:44 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116603 We should be calling for Dean's Resignation and removal of Brazill removal of super delagate status. Now, the picture is much more clear, as to why Al Gore posted a video (out of the blue) several weeks back, about gay marriage rights. He must of know this was going to happen. The gay comminuty stand for this. It's time we show the DNC how much power we have! We should be calling for Dean’s Resignation and removal of Brazill removal of super delagate status.
Now, the picture is much more clear, as to why Al Gore posted a video (out of the blue) several weeks back, about gay marriage rights. He must of know this was going to happen.

The gay comminuty stand for this. It’s time we show the DNC how much power we have!

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116590 North Dallas Thirty Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:41:55 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116590 Gee, I wonder why teenagers and college students would have an affinity for a party that promises them free this, free that, and panders to their every ludicrous want and desire, without ever demanding anything from them. It mirrors their boomer parents. Gee, I wonder why teenagers and college students would have an affinity for a party that promises them free this, free that, and panders to their every ludicrous want and desire, without ever demanding anything from them.

It mirrors their boomer parents.

]]> By: ousslander http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116551 ousslander Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:04:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116551                   Is there such a place for gays in the DNC? Not if Donna Brazill and Lea Daughtry have their say which they did and won.                  He does think there is place for the DNC lawyers at the Washington Blade trying to coerce them into being silent  and towing the party line or else.                   Is there such a place for gays in the DNC? Not if Donna Brazill and Lea Daughtry have their say which they did and won. 
                He does think there is place for the DNC lawyers at the Washington Blade trying to coerce them into being silent  and towing the party line or else.

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116484 American Elephant Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:56:01 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116484 <blockquote>the former Vermont governor said that voters under 30 had an affinity for his party because they were a “multicultural generation.”</blockquote>voters under 30 have an affinity for his party because they are long on hormones and short on experience, or as Churchill said, "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain<strong>"</strong>.

the former Vermont governor said that voters under 30 had an affinity for his party because they were a “multicultural generation.”

voters under 30 have an affinity for his party because they are long on hormones and short on experience, or as Churchill said, "If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain".

]]> By: Leah http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116437 Leah Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:48 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116437 Someone asked me the other day how any gay person can be a Republican, since all Republican leaders believe that gays can be "healed". I was speechless, and this from a nice Jewish Democrat who supports Israel. Had I heard this story I would have told it to him, but I only heard it latter. My son was telling me about a friend at Stanford - Black, Gay, Republican. I asked him how does such a kid become Republican? He is from the East Bay, so you can imagine what kind of political environment he grew up in. So in order to rebel, he started calling himself a Republican, then started reading up on what Republicans actually stand for, and decided that this was the party for him - rebellion or not. This also answers Dans'  previous question. Why do the Libs shout down and shut up any dissenting point of view. Because if people are exposed to other world views, they might change their minds. Can't have that happen can we? Someone asked me the other day how any gay person can be a Republican, since all Republican leaders believe that gays can be "healed". I was speechless, and this from a nice Jewish Democrat who supports Israel. Had I heard this story I would have told it to him, but I only heard it latter.

My son was telling me about a friend at Stanford – Black, Gay, Republican. I asked him how does such a kid become Republican? He is from the East Bay, so you can imagine what kind of political environment he grew up in. So in order to rebel, he started calling himself a Republican, then started reading up on what Republicans actually stand for, and decided that this was the party for him – rebellion or not.

This also answers Dans’  previous question. Why do the Libs shout down and shut up any dissenting point of view. Because if people are exposed to other world views, they might change their minds. Can’t have that happen can we?

]]> By: Bruce (GayPatriot) http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116426 Bruce (GayPatriot) Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:17:09 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116426 Given the hostility of many Democrats to the protection of Israel, one may ask the same question about American Jews being Democrats. Again, this is the pitfall of the Divisive Identity Politics So Heightened in The nation (DIPSHIT) the Democrats have perfected. Given the hostility of many Democrats to the protection of Israel, one may ask the same question about American Jews being Democrats.

Again, this is the pitfall of the Divisive Identity Politics So Heightened in The nation (DIPSHIT) the Democrats have perfected.

]]> By: Shawmut http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-116419 Shawmut Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:06:26 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/03/26/dnc-chair-dean-thinks-gays-have-no-place-in-gop/#comment-116419 The world according to the DNC Chairman seems that people should be categorized; each in a certain slot and 'used' for certain reasons.  How historical - is you indulge in the Antedeluvian. The world according to the DNC Chairman seems that people should be categorized; each in a certain slot and ‘used’ for certain reasons.  How historical – is you indulge in the Antedeluvian.

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