Before even checking our sitemeter, I knew we must’ve gotten another link from a left-wing blog when I was reviewing the comments caught in our spam filter. We had received an unusual number of hate-filled reactions to Bruce’s piece yesterday, Myrick, Knollenberg Want Action Taken Against Carter. Yup, checked the sitemeter, lots of links coming in from TBogg.
What is it about certain left-wingers that they can only address the subject of gay conservatives with bile and bitterness?
I recall last fall when some left-of-center blog linked my piece on media disinterest in the anti-conservative attitude of gays and we received such a welter of angry and apoplectic comments, I was delighted to post a follow-up piece on the reactions. (Reviewing them, I laughed as hard as I normally do when watching a Monty Python sketch.)
And now Bruce’s piece on Republican Congressmen standing up to Jimmy Carter’s visits with America’s enemies gets the dander of angry left-wingers up again. But, they just repeat the same tired, old clichés we gay conservatives have been hearing almost since the first moment we came out (as conservatives) in gay circles or when we dared defend Republicans in liberal circles where we came out (as gay).
While our situation allows us to see more readily left-wing narrow-mindedness, it also gives us an opportunity to more readily ascertain the character of the individuals we meet. I mean, if they react with angry opprobrium to our unique combination of politics and sexuality, we know them to be either incredibly intolerant and short-sighted or just amazingly **amazingly** insecure.
We know how narrow these people are if they react so vehemently to an unfamiliar phenomenon. And we know we cannot really count on these people as friends (or lovers) if they make angry assumptions based on our political views.
But, then we meet those, a very large number in my experience, liberals who, while curious to apparent oxymorons like ourselves and they react not with outrage, but with genuine curiosity and interest, asking us how we could hold such seemingly contradictory views, embracing a political worldview (which at least in its media portrayal) appears at odds with our sexuality. Or sometimes even with befuddlement about the seeming contradiction we represent, but then with genuine reassurances of respect for our differences.
When they still treat us an individuals even when knowing our politics, we know they are broad-minded individuals with whom we can exchange ideas. And we have sense we can count on them as friends and lovers because we know they do not dismiss someone merely because he holds an unusual viewpoint or has political views at odds with their own.
To some degree, being a gay conservative is thus a shortcut into determining the character of many liberals. And while the recent spate of angry comments suggests there are a fair number narrow-minded liberals out there (all too many with their own blogs), our own experience shows that there are many broad-minded ones out there as well. And not only do they offer interesting perspectives at odds with our own, more often than not, they make very good friends.
My favorite kind of angry hateful Leftist is the one who thinks that he is telling us/me something that no one has ever said to us/me in the history of the world.
Which is funny because I would *love* it if the Left would get some new material , I’m so bored with the talking points from 1968.
Before any of you Leftists throw the “self-loathing” label at us.. look at what your buddies in Amsterdam are doing… they’re leaving the Left. Why? Because the Left is leading the Netherlands to destruction.
It’s the Self-Loathing Leftists who are harming the Gays in the Netherlands, so in their own interest, gays are now moving to the Right.
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/180408_1.htm
Dutch Gays Prefer Conservative to Leftwing Parties
If only homosexuals were to vote, Proud of the Netherlands (TON) would be the biggest party in the Lower House. Conservative parties are more favoured among them than progressive ones, a poll by TV programme NOVA reveals.
NOVA carried out the survey in cooperation with gay publications Gaykrant and Gay.nl. TON pulled in the votes of 19 percent of the readers of Gaykrant. From Gay.nl, the party of Rita Verdonk won as much as 33 percent. Among all of the Dutch, 13 percent would vote for TON, according to NOVA.
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The centre-left D66 party scored best with Gaykrant readers: 22 percent. With Gay.nl, it scored 14 percent. Together, this makes D66 the second party for homosexuals. Among all of the Dutch, only 3 percent would vote D66.
NOVA said this was the first time a survey has been carried out on such a large scale of the gay vote. It did say that compared with a Gaykrant survey from 1997, leftwing parties have dropped out of favour. TON and the Party for Freedom (PVV) of anti-Islam champion Geert Wilders have prompted strong growth towards the right.
In 2007, the Socialist Party (SP), Labour (PvdA) and the leftwing Greens (GroenLinks) together captured 40 percent of the gay vote, compared with just 25 percent now. Together with TON and PVV, the conservatives (VVD) and Christian democrats (CDA) would now win a combined 45 percent, up from 35 percent in 1997. TON’s Verdonk and Wilders’ PVV have emerged from the VVD.
In the NOVA poll, PvdA scores 7 percent on average among the gays. GroenLinks does better with 10 percent, while the SP gets 7 percent of the gay vote. The VVD would win 9 percent of the votes and PVV, 8 percent. CDA, the biggest Lower House party, traditionally has a very low score among homosexuals (4 percent).
As a straight white male, I am always stunned by gay and feminist groups who are against doing anything about hard line Islamic groups and countries. If I were either female or gay, I’d be doing everything I could to make sure that America’s military.
But, hey, that’s just me.
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But if liberals paid attention to the homophobia and sexism over there, people would discover that the U.S. isn’t really as bad as we’re supposed to believe. They can’t have that, so they have to paint us as the worst in the world lest they never get anywhere with their agenda.
The problem, Rob, is you assume that left-wingers are logical. Big mistake.
TBogg’s behavior is truly disgusting. He should be ashamed of himself, but I know that’s asking far too much.
So Bruce’s support for freedom, fairness, and free speech is all a lie because he doesn’t agree with Carter that ex-presidents are “immune” from restrictions on negotiating with terrorists, eh TBogg? Bullsh*t.
Good luck getting an answer David.
All day so far I’ve asked folks with the contrary opinion to explain or justify their statement, and as usual, they never do.
Leftists have this childish need to make sure everyone knows they stated their cliched opinion yet never freel they have to actually defend themselves.