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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142937</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Houndentenor, can I ask why you attached your comment #9 is to this post?

If it is true, what you say, shouldn't the author of the article have posed those questions to gay Republicans before writing the piece?  For that is the point of the post, that he didn't talk to gay Republican when writing about them.

Maybe one can't fault gays for returning the bias, but the piece wasn't about anti-Republican bias in the gay community (though its author certainly provides an example of such bias), but about gay Republicans.

Get the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Houndentenor, can I ask why you attached your comment #9 is to this post?</p>
<p>If it is true, what you say, shouldn&#8217;t the author of the article have posed those questions to gay Republicans before writing the piece?  For that is the point of the post, that he didn&#8217;t talk to gay Republican when writing about them.</p>
<p>Maybe one can&#8217;t fault gays for returning the bias, but the piece wasn&#8217;t about anti-Republican bias in the gay community (though its author certainly provides an example of such bias), but about gay Republicans.</p>
<p>Get the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142754</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions. You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Just consider the moral and ethical depravity lurking in that statement.  In effect, it's saying:

1) It's OK for gays to be demented and unfair, if they feel someone has been demented or unfair with them.  Two wrongs make a right, basically.  And,
2) It's OK to be anti-gay if you just don't say it, and take gay money.  (Like the Democrats)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions. You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just consider the moral and ethical depravity lurking in that statement.  In effect, it&#8217;s saying:</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s OK for gays to be demented and unfair, if they feel someone has been demented or unfair with them.  Two wrongs make a right, basically.  And,<br />
2) It&#8217;s OK to be anti-gay if you just don&#8217;t say it, and take gay money.  (Like the Democrats)</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142152</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I WAS a moderate Republican.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You were a liberal.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I can give as good as I get.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well that's tolerant and compassionate. I thought liberals were supposed to be better than that instead of bitter, vindictive queens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I WAS a moderate Republican.</p></blockquote>
<p>You were a liberal.</p>
<blockquote><p>I can give as good as I get.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well that&#8217;s tolerant and compassionate. I thought liberals were supposed to be better than that instead of bitter, vindictive queens.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142066</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus I have to ask.. who are the people who seek to destroy you if they find out you're gay and they dont agree with you?

The Democrats

Who are the people who think it's proper to dismiss anything you have to say because  they disagree with you by telling everyone you're gay?

The Democrat/Leftists

Who are the people who think that because a man was gay that all his communication with males should be monitored?

Democrats

Democrats are anti-gay in very personal and hateful ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus I have to ask.. who are the people who seek to destroy you if they find out you&#8217;re gay and they dont agree with you?</p>
<p>The Democrats</p>
<p>Who are the people who think it&#8217;s proper to dismiss anything you have to say because  they disagree with you by telling everyone you&#8217;re gay?</p>
<p>The Democrat/Leftists</p>
<p>Who are the people who think that because a man was gay that all his communication with males should be monitored?</p>
<p>Democrats</p>
<p>Democrats are anti-gay in very personal and hateful ways.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142057</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions. You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, we can.

Because, oddly enough, gays seemingly have no problem endorsing and supporting as "pro-gay" and "gay-supportive" Democrats who brag about having the "same position" or supporting the same laws as the Republicans who gays have screamed take "anti-gay positions".

What amazes me, Houndentenor, is that you think a party that lies to gays, takes money from gays, and then turns right around and supports positions that gays scream are "antigay" is somehow better for gays than one that doesn't promise gays anything that it doesn't promise anyone else, doesn't seek out or demand gay money, and generally doesn't bother.

In short, you like someone who pretends to like you, mooches from you, and then does nasty things about you behind your back more than you do someone who tells you up front that they don't really like you and doesn't take your money.

To paraphrase Stewie Griffin, "Do gays &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; it when you treat them like crap?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions. You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, we can.</p>
<p>Because, oddly enough, gays seemingly have no problem endorsing and supporting as &#8220;pro-gay&#8221; and &#8220;gay-supportive&#8221; Democrats who brag about having the &#8220;same position&#8221; or supporting the same laws as the Republicans who gays have screamed take &#8220;anti-gay positions&#8221;.</p>
<p>What amazes me, Houndentenor, is that you think a party that lies to gays, takes money from gays, and then turns right around and supports positions that gays scream are &#8220;antigay&#8221; is somehow better for gays than one that doesn&#8217;t promise gays anything that it doesn&#8217;t promise anyone else, doesn&#8217;t seek out or demand gay money, and generally doesn&#8217;t bother.</p>
<p>In short, you like someone who pretends to like you, mooches from you, and then does nasty things about you behind your back more than you do someone who tells you up front that they don&#8217;t really like you and doesn&#8217;t take your money.</p>
<p>To paraphrase Stewie Griffin, &#8220;Do gays <i>like</i> it when you treat them like crap?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-142037</link>
		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions.  You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.

I didn't start out hating on the GOP.  I WAS a moderate Republican.  They are the ones who dropped the hate on me.  I can give as good as I get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, it is the Republican party that has taken OFFICIAL anti-gay positions.  You can hardly fault gays for returning the bias.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t start out hating on the GOP.  I WAS a moderate Republican.  They are the ones who dropped the hate on me.  I can give as good as I get.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141532</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's really remarkable is Kaiser's lack of ability to stay on topic. This article  tells me that he had an assignment to right about Gay Republicans but had no clue how. He also obviously had to write X number of words and didn't know how to fill the void. My guess is he couldn't figure out how to get beyond "Gay Republicans Suck, End Of Story!"

I would fire Kaiser, not because of the subject, but the piss poor way he wrote it.

It's been a while since I've seen an article in a major publication wandering all over the place like this. I'd expect this kind of crap in the local, liberal, free rag. What's even more interesting is OUT's &lt;i&gt;Contact Us&lt;/i&gt; page keeps coming up blank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really remarkable is Kaiser&#8217;s lack of ability to stay on topic. This article  tells me that he had an assignment to right about Gay Republicans but had no clue how. He also obviously had to write X number of words and didn&#8217;t know how to fill the void. My guess is he couldn&#8217;t figure out how to get beyond &#8220;Gay Republicans Suck, End Of Story!&#8221;</p>
<p>I would fire Kaiser, not because of the subject, but the piss poor way he wrote it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve seen an article in a major publication wandering all over the place like this. I&#8217;d expect this kind of crap in the local, liberal, free rag. What&#8217;s even more interesting is OUT&#8217;s <i>Contact Us</i> page keeps coming up blank.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141529</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kudos to Log Cabin for exposing the anti-Republican bias in gay media. And kudos to our friend Chris Crain for the fairness of his blogging.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*Ahem*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kudos to Log Cabin for exposing the anti-Republican bias in gay media. And kudos to our friend Chris Crain for the fairness of his blogging.</p></blockquote>
<p>*Ahem*</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141209</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 - Dan, that reminds me of the old story after 1972 when a NYT writer stated IN ALL SERIOUSNESS that she was surprised at the Nixon landslide because (in her words) "nobody I know voted for him."

Talk about elitism!  It's almost as bad as B. Hussein Obama's "bitter" remark.

And yes, I use his middle name because IT IS his middle name.  Deal with it.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 - Dan, that reminds me of the old story after 1972 when a NYT writer stated IN ALL SERIOUSNESS that she was surprised at the Nixon landslide because (in her words) &#8220;nobody I know voted for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Talk about elitism!  It&#8217;s almost as bad as B. Hussein Obama&#8217;s &#8220;bitter&#8221; remark.</p>
<p>And yes, I use his middle name because IT IS his middle name.  Deal with it.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (AKA GPW)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141195</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan (AKA GPW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Ted, recall, the Advocate cover story immediately after the 2004 election.  They did not interview one person who had supporter that year's winner, even though nearly 1-in-4 gays backed him.&lt;em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ted, recall, the Advocate cover story immediately after the 2004 election.  They did not interview one person who had supporter that year&#8217;s winner, even though nearly 1-in-4 gays backed him.<em></em></p>
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		<title>By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141184</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 1-in-5 gays are Republican based on the polling in the last few Presidential elections; yet if you read the Gay Press literally you'd think it was 1-in-20 or less....a sparse, hapless and confused minority smaller relatively than that of the gay community on the American population at-large.

I'll yield that the gay communities in the big coastal cities are probably more Democratic-supporters, just as their straight neighbors are; but out in the Red States and in the small towns where Gays stay for business or family reasons...rather them emigrating to the ghetto...there's more support for small government, low taxes, small-business small-R republicanism rather than social activism and the leftist world-view that fuel the Act-Up and Move-On crowd.

If you are a lazy journalist, which most are I suspect, it's too much work to get off the stool at the local gay latte' joint and seek-out a truer cross-section of the G/L community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 1-in-5 gays are Republican based on the polling in the last few Presidential elections; yet if you read the Gay Press literally you&#8217;d think it was 1-in-20 or less&#8230;.a sparse, hapless and confused minority smaller relatively than that of the gay community on the American population at-large.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll yield that the gay communities in the big coastal cities are probably more Democratic-supporters, just as their straight neighbors are; but out in the Red States and in the small towns where Gays stay for business or family reasons&#8230;rather them emigrating to the ghetto&#8230;there&#8217;s more support for small government, low taxes, small-business small-R republicanism rather than social activism and the leftist world-view that fuel the Act-Up and Move-On crowd.</p>
<p>If you are a lazy journalist, which most are I suspect, it&#8217;s too much work to get off the stool at the local gay latte&#8217; joint and seek-out a truer cross-section of the G/L community.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141075</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They interview Mike freakin' Rogers? This is really like interviewing the KKK about Martin Luther King without talking to Dr. King.

And yes, I am equivocating Rogers with the Klan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They interview Mike freakin&#8217; Rogers? This is really like interviewing the KKK about Martin Luther King without talking to Dr. King.</p>
<p>And yes, I am equivocating Rogers with the Klan.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141056</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or Peter, how about a story on gay activists and only interview James Dobson, Paul Cameron and Lou Sheldon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Peter, how about a story on gay activists and only interview James Dobson, Paul Cameron and Lou Sheldon?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/04/22/log-cabin-faults-out-magazine-for-anti-republican-bias/#comment-141036</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a similar vein, I plan on doing a story about gay African-Americans in the conservative movement, but I'm only going to interview Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton and Rev. Wright.

That should be a fair and balanced piece, right?

Thought so.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar vein, I plan on doing a story about gay African-Americans in the conservative movement, but I&#8217;m only going to interview Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton and Rev. Wright.</p>
<p>That should be a fair and balanced piece, right?</p>
<p>Thought so.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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