Per yesterday’s comment: If you get a hold of a copy of “Pure Goldwater” go to pages 365-68. Senator Goldwater’s correspondence with McCain goes from warm endorsements to curt, formal letters after Goldwater learns that McCain has used him.

BTW, I highly recommend this new book to anyone who admires Barry Goldwater. Throughout his life, the Senator kept a journal that is rich with observations about behind-the-scenes relationships and events in the Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush and Clinton presidencies. Barry Goldwater Jr. and John W. Dean edited the journal entries and the Senator’s correspondence beginning in the 1930s to compile a book that offers a unique look at the man and his ideals.

As a proud footsoldier of Operation Chaos, it is my duty to urge unaffiliated and switched-Republicans in North Carolina to VOTE HILLARY!!!

Your logic, Bruce, is impaired. Operation Chaos should want a split between the two primaries: Indiana for Clinton and North Carolina for Obama. So as a proud member of the effort you should urge your fellow North Carolinians to vote Obama, not Clinton!

Hey, Gay Patriot (#6), where’s McCain’s endorsement of ENDA, eliminating DADT, or repealing DOMA? Cite your evidence or shut up.

Hillary’s been in the Senate just under 8 years. Where’s her bills to end DADT or DOMA?? Barack Hussein Snobama’s been in the Senate under 4 years. He’s put forth several bills. Which ones have to do with repealing DADT or DOMA???

Cite your evidence or drop down, fifth ring, cook.

Then Pogo says:

McCain will pander to the religious gay bashers to try to “prove” his conservative credentials.

And Hillary &Snobama will pander to the self-hating gay victim class for cash and votes. If history is any indication, the gays will get fucked over by the liberals AGAIN!

Then the next time around, the miserable gay victims will shower them with cash and votes and marvel about how wonderful the left is.

Vote for the centrist Democrat to send a message to Republican leaders

Exactly which of the Communists running for president would this be?

I would never say a bad thing about a Republican again…not that I really do now.

So Go Hillary, win and win.

But look at the bright side. Either Democrat candidate is a liberal ideologue and party loyalist. The Republican process stuck them with a guy whose entire senate career has consisted of joining with Democrats to screw over his own party, and who is much more comfortable in the company of Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton than he is with members of his own party.

I’d say the Democrats have little to be whining about.

Regards,
Peter H.

Wrong - The truth is that with winner-take-all primaries, Hillary Clinton would have resoundingly won the the nomination by Super Tuesday. Just do the arithmetic - it’s not that hard.

Second point - GP wrote: “on gay rights — Hillary, Obama & McCain are all the same”. Wrong! The immense difference between McCain and the Democrats on gay issues is that McCain will pander to the religious gay bashers to try to “prove” his conservative credentials.

This election is the time for reasonable Republicans to repudiate religious control of the party, and take back the party for mainstream conservatives. Vote for the centrist Democrat to send a message to Republican leaders to stop trying to manipulate the electorate by non-rational wedge issues.

First of all, don’t come into my house and tell me to shut up.

Secondly, so in your worldview… the *absence* of legislation is proof of progress? If that’s the case, you must love the GOP-run Congress. At least they stood up to Clinton’s AIDS annual budget-cutting frenzy.

As for McCain, Obama & Hillary — aside from empty rhetoric — on the major issues that the Gay Left supports; they are identical. There is no point debating gay issues in this campaign — shades of gray.

If you want to say McCain is not as bad on gay rights as Bush, is moderate enough to support because of non-gay conservative positions, or even that you suspect that he doesn’t actually hold antigay views and will not just do the religious right’s bidding like Bush, fine by me. I can respect that. But what you said is that the three candidates are “the same,” and that is so patently absurd as to be hilarious. Propaganda needs to sound at least superficially plausible in order to work.

As for the Democratic Congress:

(1) House passage of Hate Crimes, now stalled by GOP filibustering in the Senate and a GOP veto threat,

(2) House passage of ENDA, now stalled by GOP filibustering in the Senate and a GOP veto threat,

(3) No floor amendments and appropriations riders covertly pushing an antigay religious-right agenda down the nation’s throat, and, most importantly,

(4) No pointless gay-bashing votes in either house on a Federal Marriage Amendment.

And that’s about the most anyone can expect as long as we have 49 GOP Senators and a bigot-coddling GOP President.

Bruce, you should read the new book, “Pure Goldwater”, and Barry Goldwater’s feelings about John McCain. No one can know, of course, whether Goldwater would support Clinton or Obama, but it’s obvious that if he were alive today, Goldwater might not lift a finger to help McCain win the White House. (I thought I had the book in my briefcase but find that I left it at home. I’ll bring it with me in the morning and cite the pages of most interest.)

That’s what being an individual is all about.

Regards,
Peter H.

Uh, they did. In 2000. And in 2008. In both instances, the DNC got busloads of people to register in NH (with its open primary) to effect a McCain win. It was openly condoned by the party apparatus.

OK Schweiny? Now - ATTACK!

Regards,
Peter H.

Also, the purpose of “Operation Chaos” is not to pick the weakerDemocrats, it’s to keep the Democrat fighting as long as possible. If the Democrats didn’t apportion delegates, Obama would have locked up the nomination a long time ago. Don’t whine now because your party has a flawed primary process.

Also, if you really had a conscience, you wouldn’t be a liberal, given how liberal policies have mired people in failure and misery for generations.

Anyway. This election’s been over for me since Super Tuesday. Jindal 2012!

on gay rights — Hillary, Obama & McCain are all the same

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Right, just like Bush and Gore were.