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		<title>By: Ron P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-184840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate doesn’t mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would you support removing all the protections for other groups {religion, marital status, etc, etc, etc} in the laws?  

If not, then that would make you an anti gay hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate doesn’t mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.</p></blockquote>
<p>Would you support removing all the protections for other groups {religion, marital status, etc, etc, etc} in the laws?  </p>
<p>If not, then that would make you an anti gay hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-179267</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, heliotrope.

What queers like queerunity need is to be forced to follow their own rules.

Best way I can think of doing so: Fred Phelps goes to a city where there is a "nondiscrimination" ordinance and files a lawsuit demanding that a gay-owned and operated business make picketing signs for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, heliotrope.</p>
<p>What queers like queerunity need is to be forced to follow their own rules.</p>
<p>Best way I can think of doing so: Fred Phelps goes to a city where there is a &#8220;nondiscrimination&#8221; ordinance and files a lawsuit demanding that a gay-owned and operated business make picketing signs for him.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-179088</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I mean: If they weren't all people who happen to prefer killing or imprisoning gays.  My points are (1) government power is a sword that can all be easily turned against you, and (2) American liberals, as worhippers of "unity" and government power, have far more in common with fascists than they ordinarily realize.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I mean: If they weren&#8217;t all people who happen to prefer killing or imprisoning gays.  My points are (1) government power is a sword that can all be easily turned against you, and (2) American liberals, as worhippers of &#8220;unity&#8221; and government power, have far more in common with fascists than they ordinarily realize.)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-179082</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worship of Unity - especially, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1210613455&#38;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;State-enforced Unity - is the very soul and essence of fascism&lt;/a&gt;.

"We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change" - That could have been said by Hitler or Mussolini.  Or Castro, Chavez, Saddam: any of the national-socialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worship of Unity - especially, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1210613455&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">State-enforced Unity - is the very soul and essence of fascism</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change&#8221; - That could have been said by Hitler or Mussolini.  Or Castro, Chavez, Saddam: any of the national-socialists.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queer Unity clearly draws the divide between liberals and conservatives:&lt;blockquote&gt;We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The force of government should be used to punish people who are not 
"thinking correctly."
 
Gay bars must have a quota of straight employees. In fact, they must employ a few Bible thumpers who will inform the customers of the evils of drink and sodomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queer Unity clearly draws the divide between liberals and conservatives:<br />
<blockquote>We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change.</p></blockquote>
<p>The force of government should be used to punish people who are not<br />
&#8220;thinking correctly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gay bars must have a quota of straight employees. In fact, they must employ a few Bible thumpers who will inform the customers of the evils of drink and sodomy.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-178817</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate doesn’t mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Individuality's fine as long as we all do it together.&lt;/i&gt;  - Maj. Frank Burns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate doesn’t mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.</p></blockquote>
<p><i>Individuality&#8217;s fine as long as we all do it together.</i>  - Maj. Frank Burns</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn't be allowed to discriminate doesn't mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.

As to your comment about companies choosing equality, I have no idea what you mean as you merely echo the jargon of all gay organizations, including alas Log Cabin.  Does equality in the corporate sphere mean that an employer has to treat each employee equally no matter what his talents or his work ethic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queer Unity, just because people feel corporations shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to discriminate doesn&#8217;t mean we should deprive them of the freedom to do so, nor deprive other companies the competitive edge they would gain by not discriminating.</p>
<p>As to your comment about companies choosing equality, I have no idea what you mean as you merely echo the jargon of all gay organizations, including alas Log Cabin.  Does equality in the corporate sphere mean that an employer has to treat each employee equally no matter what his talents or his work ethic?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/05/11/conservative-notion-of-gay-rights-essentially-nonpolitical/#comment-178686</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;such legislation is becoming a solution without a problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If there isn't really that big of a problem, liberals will hyperinflate it to make you believe that disaster is imminent just so we will give them the absolute, totalitarian rule they crave. For example:

Race: We're supposed to believe that we're all racist bigots and every white person is the equivalent of Ross Barnett (D, MS) and George Wallace (D, AL).

Economy: Financial ruin is right around the corner and Americans are already standing in soup lines.

War: American soldiers are being slaughtered wholesale and bodies are stacking up like cord wood. Thus, we should tuck tail and run away immediately. Worse than &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;, we're hurting the feelings of Islamo "freedom fighters".

Oil: The oil companies make too much money, so it's up to the federal government to take that money away from them. Nevermind that that won't do a damn thing to bring the gas prices down or that the oil companies don't pass on the costs that they should.

"Gay Rights": Every straight person is a bigoted homophobe and gays are cowering in the closet because of it. Nevermind the anti-gay legislation and anti-marriage positions of liberals.

I could go on and on, but this is what we're supposed to believe &lt;b&gt;FACTS BE DAMNED!!!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>such legislation is becoming a solution without a problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>If there isn&#8217;t really that big of a problem, liberals will hyperinflate it to make you believe that disaster is imminent just so we will give them the absolute, totalitarian rule they crave. For example:</p>
<p>Race: We&#8217;re supposed to believe that we&#8217;re all racist bigots and every white person is the equivalent of Ross Barnett (D, MS) and George Wallace (D, AL).</p>
<p>Economy: Financial ruin is right around the corner and Americans are already standing in soup lines.</p>
<p>War: American soldiers are being slaughtered wholesale and bodies are stacking up like cord wood. Thus, we should tuck tail and run away immediately. Worse than <i>that</i>, we&#8217;re hurting the feelings of Islamo &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oil: The oil companies make too much money, so it&#8217;s up to the federal government to take that money away from them. Nevermind that that won&#8217;t do a damn thing to bring the gas prices down or that the oil companies don&#8217;t pass on the costs that they should.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gay Rights&#8221;: Every straight person is a bigoted homophobe and gays are cowering in the closet because of it. Nevermind the anti-gay legislation and anti-marriage positions of liberals.</p>
<p>I could go on and on, but this is what we&#8217;re supposed to believe <b>FACTS BE DAMNED!!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: queerunity</title>
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		<dc:creator>queerunity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while it certainly is admirable when companies choose equality either because they find it financially beneficial or truly support equality I feel no company should be allowed to discriminate.  We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change.  I see your point though and it is a valid one through a gay conservatives lens.

&lt;a href="http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while it certainly is admirable when companies choose equality either because they find it financially beneficial or truly support equality I feel no company should be allowed to discriminate.  We need the federal government to intervene to make sure this goes into effect otherwise there are companies who will never change.  I see your point though and it is a valid one through a gay conservatives lens.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The more we turn to government, the less we do to solve our own problems and the more power we cede to the state, according us less freedom to respond responsibly to social change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This speaks to the core principle of conservatism. Societal differences are worked out at the local level in the public square. To use the force of government to compel a solution is as radical as to submit to the threat of destruction by the KKK or other form of mob rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The more we turn to government, the less we do to solve our own problems and the more power we cede to the state, according us less freedom to respond responsibly to social change.</p></blockquote>
<p>This speaks to the core principle of conservatism. Societal differences are worked out at the local level in the public square. To use the force of government to compel a solution is as radical as to submit to the threat of destruction by the KKK or other form of mob rule.</p>
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