And another piece of the puzzle falls into place.

FWIW - the Dhimmicrats have not been “democratic” in a long time, not since the 1968 convention. Try “oligarchic” instead.

Regards,
Peter H.

Ok, so how do you feel about Mom , the flag and apple pie?

1.) MOM. Mom is the mother of the child who was born through HER birth canal as the result of vaginal sex with DAD who is married to mom and a constant force in the nuclear family.

Mom is sacred. She is dedicated to nurturing the children and being a warm and positive force. If all is well, Dad makes it possible for mom to stay home and tend the kids.

2.) FLAG. The flag is the symbol of a country so strong that it can even protect the rights of some to use it for toilet paper. It stands tall and waves freely for the rights of anyone to act on his own initiative and rise above the bare necessities through perseverance and a steady dedication to being responsible. (See Boy Scout oath.)

3.) APPLE PIE. At the end of the strenuous long days of the summer farming season, the apples ripen in the first cold nights of the autumn season. It is tidy up time on the farm and there is some “free” time to make cider, clear the fields for spring planting, butcher the hogs and cure the hams, mend the fences and work on the machinery. The barns and silos are full for winter feeding. MOM and Grandmother are baking APPLE PIE with that expensive, special treat they have been saving: cinnamon. APPLE PIE is the seasonal dessert that blesses the family for its long season of hard labor and dedicated diligence. It is the symbol that we are ready for the winter and look forward to the spring and start of a new farming year.

I’m gay but am not an advocate of Gay Marriage.

One reason is that I don’t really believe the traditional heterosexual relationship model works well for homosexuals … but I realize others differ , and I don’t want to go any more into that..

My main reason is because the broader society does not want it.

State after State , the people have voted on this issue; even in CA and they voted against this issue.

Just what do you expect to gain by overriding the will of the People. We do live in a Republic.. and a Federal one at that… the people of the States through their Legislatures get to determine what their laws are. Not the Courts.

Can you blame all those Amendments in the 2004 elections? Do you think that the people are going to settle to have their will usurped by a Court that is acting inappropriately? Do you think you are helping your cause with your fellow-citizen by resorting to an Anti-Democratic process to achieve your political objective?

Gender equality or equal-protection was never intended to justify same-sex marriage… it’s such a farce to claim that those measures have for all this time protected same-sex marriage but no one discovered that until last week.

An issue like this is so fundamental to the basis of our (our = American) communities what in the world is a Court doing freezing it out of the normal political process… They’re creating another Abortion type third-rail of never-ending political division and stalemate.

You don’t think this is going to cause a backlash against gay people? IMHO, it’s not that people in society are anti-gay per se.. but they surely aren’t going to be open to be persuaded to change their views if you ram a Court Diktat down their throat.

Marriage is as old as anything in our traditions.. the People don’t want it messed with.. it’s unstable enough. in times that are unstable.

I don’t see any opposition toward getting the equivalent government and legal goodies that are purported to be the great need for “equality” , but they don’t want it under the banner of Marriage.

I think the gay people who resort to court action should respect that and stop being so self-centered and short-sighted.

We have to raise MONEY.

What? Are you going to bribe Californians into loving gays now? Or are you going to flush it away on liberal politicians who blow you for cash & votes, but give you the finger when it really counts?

The heart of Fascism is not dicatorship. Dictatorship is the means.

The heart of Fascism is Collectivism/Corporatism.

I learned a good lesson from Chase a few months back.

Corportatism does not mean a society that is at the mercy of corporations or business. Instead it means a society governed on the organization construct of Social/Industrial/Whatever Collectives with which the government interfaces.. The Collectives were a Corporate representives of the indivudal components (people.. companies.. sectors.. whatever)

You need a dictatorship to make something like this work , which is why Italy, Germany, Soviet Union were all autocratic.

And because the people behind these movements were doing it for the good of society… the good of society trumped anything to do with individual rights and legal protections.

The Left is profoundly stupid when they call small government conservatives Fascists…

They are.

Govt authortiy is a means to a very nasty Dystopian end.

I can think of nothing more self-destructive to one’s ends then for pro-gay-marriage folks to support the Court ruling.

Protect gay marriage? Now THAT’S funny. Afterall, it’s been a traditional institution here in California for like,….what? 45 minutes?

Oh, and please explain to me why I would EVER give money to the HRC when I have a perfectly good toilet at home.

So how do you feel about the word “populist”?

Hitler and Mussolini were populists.

Look, Chandie, learn something about fascism. The essence of fascism is: worship of the State. The political method of fascism is: telling the people those fatcats and Jews are out to get them - aka progressivism, aka populism, aka demagoguery. The justification or moral method of fascism is this: “We are all one community”. (Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer.) Now let’s put them together:

- American populists/progressives telling people “we are all one”? “We have to take things away from you for the common good”? Check.
- American populists/progressives telling people that fatcats (or “oil companies”) and Jews (or “Israel lobby”) are out to get them? Check.
- American populists/progressives worshipping the State and offering It is the answer to every problem, real or imagined? Check.

That is FASCISM.

But here is an additional, confirming test: Modern American populists/progressives finally defending Hitler, showing their hidden sympathy for him? Check.

Equality for All and the HRC California Marriage PAC are two political action committees devoted exclusively to defeating the anti-marriage amendment in California. Anyone can donate any amount online at: http://www.equalityforall.com or https://secure.ga3.org/03/ca_marriage_pac. Give to Equality for All if you can’t stomach HRC. Donations to these PACs do not go to any party or candidate, they go directly to the fight against the ballot initiative.

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Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь!
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!

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Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
Дружбы народов надёжный оплот!
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Нас к торжеству коммунизма ведёт!

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И Ленин великий нам путь озарил:
На правое дело он поднял народы,
На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил!

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В победе бессмертных идей коммунизма
Мы видим грядущее нашей страны,
И Красному знамени славной Отчизны
Мы будем всегда беззаветно верны!

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I note you use the word “progressive” at both ends of the political spectrum. This confirms what I have always suspected–liberals have NO IDEA what they mean when they call themselves “progressive.” It’s just another way for them to avoid calling themselves liberals. So, “liberal” means “angry, bitter, hypocritical, elitist, illogical, irrational, pathetic and stupid.” And “progressive” means “person who doesn’t want other people (or voters) to find out they are angry, bitter, hypocritical, elitist, illogical, irrational, pathetic and stupid.” Yep. Sounds about right.

And I love the picture of “Adolph” Wilson from gay activists forcing their will on the people. The hypocrisy and ignorance would be laughable if it weren’t so frightening.

Not really.

Republican politicians doing things that lead to judicial activism leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Regards,
Peter H.