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Democrats Lied, Voters Were Fried

As Arte Johnson would say….. “Verrrrry interesting.”  (h/t – Instapundit)

Kanjorski says Dems were insincere about ending war – The Hill

Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.) is seen in a video that has surfaced on the Web saying that Democrats “sort of stretched the facts” in the 2006 elections about their ability to end the Iraq war.

In a video posted to YouTube on Thursday, Kanjorski reflects on the Democrats’ approach to the war in 2006 and said they pushed the rhetoric “as far as we can to the end of the fleet — didn’t say it, but we implied it — that if we won the congressional elections, we could stop the war.”

“Now, anybody who’s a good student of government would know it wasn’t true,” he said. “But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress — we sort of stretched the facts.”
 
The video was dated Aug. 28, 2007, by the person who posted it. The remarks are not placed in a larger context.

Republicans reacted Friday by calling for Kanjorski to apologize.

“For Paul Kanjorski to admit that Democrats campaigned in ’06 on a fraudulent agenda to end the war not only exposes his own calculated efforts to fool the voters of his district, but it also raises the question of whether this was a coordinated effort by the Democratic Party as a whole,” said a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, Ken Spain.

“Paul Kanjorski should be ashamed of himself for using our troops in harm’s way as political pawns for his own partisan agenda.”

Now come on, really.   Is anyone REALLY surprised that the Democrats would use the lives of our soldiers as a bargaining chip with the American public in order to gain political power?  Some would call that orchestrated effort…. well, treason.

As Amy & Seth would say….. REALLY, Congressman Kanjorski, REALLY?  (I’m full of NBC allusions today…..)

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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31 Comments

  1. I saw this video a few days ago. From what I’ve seen, no major media news outlet has picked it up yet.

    This isn’t as damaging as it could be. Rep. Kanjorski doesn’t seem to be a big player in the Democratic party, at least as near as I can tell. He also begins the whole statement by saying “my impression,” which gives the Democrats an easy way to paint him as a radical and throw him under the bus.

    At least this might by one Congressional seat that goes from (D) to (R) this next election.

    Comment by NaturallyGay — May 24, 2008 @ 11:43 am - May 24, 2008

  2. It’s stunning – and, in a way, wonderful – to see a Democrat admit what the rest of us have long since deduced: that they don’t care about the truth, or about our troops, or about a positive outcome in Iraq, or about America: only about their own power.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 24, 2008 @ 12:13 pm - May 24, 2008

  3. “What you see is what you get!”

    -Geraldine

    Comment by Draybee — May 24, 2008 @ 1:17 pm - May 24, 2008

  4. NaturallyGay,
    You probably will not see the MSM pick this story up. The story does not play into their goal of assisting Obama to get elected.

    If they do, their leadership will paint Kanjorski as one of those bitter Americans who cling to their guns and religion.

    Comment by LCRW — May 24, 2008 @ 2:02 pm - May 24, 2008

  5. It’s been 18-months and the Dhimnicrats haven’t successfully delivered on one single major campaign platform….not that I’m surprised.

    The GOP’s problem is Bush’s performance has poisoned their well also. Too many of the Moderates are really-pissed at the Bush administration’s muddled handling of post-“Mission Accomplished” Iraq, the economy and the insane-escalation of oil and gasoline prices. Too-many Moderates mutter “bullsh*t” at their TV’s whenever Bush or an Bush administration official speaks.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — May 24, 2008 @ 4:57 pm - May 24, 2008

  6. Too-many Moderates mutter “bullsh*t” at their TV’s whenever Bush or an Bush administration official speaks.

    I do it too.

    I have Bush fatigue.

    And Defending-Bush fatigue.

    Comment by Vince P — May 24, 2008 @ 5:31 pm - May 24, 2008

  7. #2
    Which reminds me, I find it interesting that Pussama would be trashing McCain over the G.I. Bill. Liberals don’t believe our soldiers are smart enough to go to college in the first place, so what’s he bitching about?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — May 24, 2008 @ 5:33 pm - May 24, 2008

  8. Wow

    just

    wow

    Comment by Joel de Bunchastu — May 24, 2008 @ 7:06 pm - May 24, 2008

  9. LCRW,

    You probably will not see the MSM pick this story up. The story does not play into their goal of assisting Obama to get elected.

    I didn’t expect them to, but I thought that maybe, just MAYBE, Fox News might pick it up. So far, they haven’t. Maybe they are running it locally, but I doubt it.

    If they do, their leadership will paint Kanjorski as one of those bitter Americans who cling to their guns and religion.

    No doubt they will spin it like crazy.

    Comment by NaturallyGay — May 25, 2008 @ 2:04 am - May 25, 2008

  10. I’m more than happy to defend Bush! I’d much rather keep him than go with any of the alternatives. His handling of the economy has been excellent. He brought us out of the dot.com recession, made sure 9/11 didn’t become a financial disaster as well, which it easily could have, and most economists say we are already on our way out of the housing-bubble “recession” that never was a “recession” to begin with.

    Granted, the counter insurgency wasn’t working well for a while. As soon as someone can find me the war where fewer mistakes were made , then I’ll bitch about the handling of the war. Until then, the surge is going brilliantly, Iraqis have compromised and reconciled more than Democrats have here at home, and they are beginning to take on their own defense with Americans only in the background.

    If you want to see what poor handling of an economy looks like, just wait til Bush has been out of office for a year or two.

    Four more years! 🙂

    Comment by American Elephant — May 25, 2008 @ 3:14 am - May 25, 2008

  11. AE: I’m really torn on Bush’s overall score but one thing I know… considering the three yahoos that are waiting to be the next one… i rather have him stay on.

    Comment by Vince P — May 25, 2008 @ 3:18 am - May 25, 2008

  12. I just noticed…

    “Now, anybody who’s a good student of government would know it wasn’t true,”

    He also admitted that Democrat voters are ignorant a**hats! 🙂

    Comment by American Elephant — May 25, 2008 @ 6:14 am - May 25, 2008

  13. How do you get demagoguery back in the bottle, especially after you rode it to victory? You have to lie again and more blatantly. You “discover” that the vile, horrible truth was hidden from you and now you have to slog the swamp before you can lead us into the sunlight. Blah, blah, blah. All demagogues read from the same script.

    Those who vote for these people mainly fall into two categories: the ones who believe the demagoguery, and; those who buy the use of the demagoguery as a practical way of swaying voters. The partisan who ignores his party’s use of demagoguery has no motivation to rise above it.

    The Democrats can not survive without a full array of “victims” who can only break free if the Democrats lead them to “hope” and “change” and “fairness” and “justice” and a “new tomorrow.”

    Balancing budgets, shrinking government, cutting entitlements, eliminating pork, returning the courts to their original purpose, etc. is not easy to sell, but wonderfully easy to demagogue.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 25, 2008 @ 9:37 am - May 25, 2008

  14. Actually this wasn’t that big a secret if you looked back at the campaigns going on. We just brought this up in one of my college courses cause a professor asked us what Democrats ran on to win in 06. Someone did say the war but she was quick to point out it was really the idea of corruption that Republicans had done.

    Democrats may have wanted to end the war but its not really possible, unless they stop funding but…doubt they have enough votes to pull that off. The House actually passed a lot of what they wanted to get done but the Senate is hardly in Democratic control…its pretty split and most of their agenda has gotten stuck. Bush is vetoing things too, just hard to get things done in this atmosphere.

    Comment by Darkeyedresolve — May 25, 2008 @ 11:29 am - May 25, 2008

  15. …….”Too-many Moderates mutter “bullsh*t” at their TV’s whenever Bush or an Bush administration official speaks”……….

    I think most Republicans are “Bushed” after eight years too.

    This presidency has had some of the most adverse conditions to deal with in modern times.

    However I would have hated to have seen how the Gore or Kerry administration would have dealt with them.

    Comment by LCRW — May 25, 2008 @ 1:34 pm - May 25, 2008

  16. Excellent post, Bruce.

    In The Road to Wigan Pier, a worthy but often overlooked book, Orwell expatiates on the state of the British Left of the mid-1930s. (This was before Animal Farm and 1984, when was still rather unambiguously a Man of the Left.) At one point he accuses middle-class socialists of believing – at heart, secretly – that change is not really possible. A terrible accusation which IMHO is also true.

    This post made me think of that.

    Comment by Jeremayakovka — May 25, 2008 @ 4:12 pm - May 25, 2008

  17. Anyone who knows anything about politics knew the Democrats could not get the United States to start withdrawing from Iraq. One of the major stories in the 2006 election was whether every vulnerable GOP Senate seat would go Democratic and give the Democrats the 51 votes they need to organize the Senate. No one ever suggested the possibility of Democrats getting 60 seats in the Senate. And without 60 votes on the Senate side, it doesn’t make a whole lot of difference how much of a majority Democrats have in the House.

    Besides, most of the Republicans and Independents who left the GOP ranks in the 2006 election didn’t do so to end the war. I ended my long practice of supporting Republicans for Congress for three main reasons: the refusal of the Republican majority to bring spending under control, the tactics and principles (or lack thereof) of Tom Delay (‘tho by the election he was gone), and the Republican decision to interfere in the Teri Schiavo case (it was not any business of the Congress) when the time taken on that matter could have been devoted to tackling real problems facing the country.

    Comment by Trace Phelps — May 25, 2008 @ 4:53 pm - May 25, 2008

  18. The Left is in the process of making fools of themselves right now….

    A woman was on Fox news discussing the fallout from Hillary’s words about RFK being misused by the Democrats to make off like Hillary wants Obama dead.

    Well as the woman was talking, she did the verbal slip with Osama/Obama and clumsily recovered… so now the Left is in full hyenia mode saying that Fox News wants to have Obama murdered.

    Article:
    http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/mqc233450797.html

    Comment thread
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/johnnydollar/mqc233450797/

    Comment by Vince P — May 25, 2008 @ 10:38 pm - May 25, 2008

  19. Thanks, Trace. You said it more concisely that I could have.

    Comment by James — May 26, 2008 @ 2:13 am - May 26, 2008

  20. Sorry, one more thing, to LCRW: the Bush administration brought these “adverse conditions” upon themselves with their total withdrawl from the international community, failure to bring spending under control while at the same time making aggressive tax cuts, their failure to regulate destructive practices on Wall Street leading to the housing debacle and, most obviously, by undertaking an unjustified, preemptive war.

    Kerry and/or Gore simply would not have put this country in the position of having to deal with such “adverse conditions.”

    Comment by James — May 26, 2008 @ 2:19 am - May 26, 2008

  21. James: what was the impact of the deep tax cuts on the Federal budget?

    Comment by Vince P — May 26, 2008 @ 3:03 am - May 26, 2008

  22. Holy cow. If I’m ever in terri schaivo’s shoes and my entire family from my mother and father, to my brothers and sisters, to my aunts and uncles, and even my friends say I would want to live, and the only guy that says I wouldn’t, used to say the opposite, is now shacking up with some new slut, and stands to gain financially if i die…i’d sure as hell want someone to step in and make sure I’m at least being granted the same right to judicial review of my civil rights that common criminals are.

    Funny that all the associations for handicapped people were on the side of Republicans on that one.

    Yes, by all means, they could have been outlawing incandescent light bulbs or trans fats! Or seizing control of the heath care industry! So government can decide when even more people will live and die! How dare they waste precious congressional time protecting the lives of the most helpless! Where do they get off! Where’s that crap in the constitution! Instead they should be ordering people to be starved and dehydrated to death! THATS the place of the government!

    What a heartless, callous and cavalier society we’ve become. Makes me sick.

    Comment by American Elephant — May 26, 2008 @ 5:04 am - May 26, 2008

  23. They starved her to death!

    The US Army treated some terrorists in Iraq as if they were at a bathhouse and the NYT screamed Barbarism on its front page for over a month straight..

    But a US Court decreed death by starvation and they complained the US Congress tried to prevent it.

    Up is down, Down is up

    Comment by Vince P — May 26, 2008 @ 5:20 am - May 26, 2008

  24. #14

    unless they stop funding but…doubt they have enough votes to pull that off.

    Votes or testicular fortitude???

    #19

    with their total withdrawl from the international community,

    So we should submit our national security to a “Global Test”?? Should we have genuflected before those who were making ASS LOADS of cash from Oil For Fools?

    Kerry and/or Gore simply would not have put this country in the position of having to deal with such “adverse conditions.”

    Oh, I believe you. We’d still be pounding sand while listening to either of them make empty promises of capturing those responsible for the anal rape we got.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — May 26, 2008 @ 5:57 am - May 26, 2008

  25. It’s not even true that “with their total withdrawl from the international community”

    Who opposed us? Oh gee lets think… the Left wing govts of France and Germany who had everything to lose if Saddam was disposed.

    We’re supposed to believe these Leftists actually care about staying in good terms with our allies.. which then leads me to ask why the hell do these leftists never acknoweldge the allies who sacrificed a lot to help us.. like UK,Spain, Poland, Australia, Japan, etc..

    I guess those countries dont count as international community… I suppose only governments that run by Communists, Autocrats, or Socialists matter.

    The retardedness is so old.

    Comment by Vince P — May 26, 2008 @ 6:04 am - May 26, 2008

  26. with their total withdrawl from the international community

    Uh, like China, India, Japan where all the significant action is? Remind me again just what it is, economy-wise, that it pouring out of “old Europe.” Suppose we were to pull out of NATO and end our military infrastructure support of “old Europe.” Would they just cruise along, happily unarmed with their same tiny military budgets?

    “Old Europe” has drunk so deeply from the cup of state socialism that they have to depend on huge migrant labor to keep their economic clocks wound. They can not or will not confront the entitlement death spiral they are facing.

    failure to regulate destructive practices on Wall Street leading to the housing debacle

    Americans went on a house buying binge. Lenders made it possible for people to borrow their fantasies. Many people bought several homes in the belief that their way to fortune was cashing in on real estate. They were buying on margin, just like so many speculators did in the pre-depression stock market. This was not Wall Street, this was Main Street greed.

    Now the speculators are buying oil futures. OPEC has learned that they can get $150 a barrel for the same oil that made them rich at $20 a barrel. Is that OPEC’s fault or is the consumer just too willing to cave? I still don’t see traffic jams in the HOV lanes or hear of Japanese style “crammers” shoving people into the metro cars so the doors will close.

    This idea that government must think for us, predict our stupidity and then bail us out when we succeed at being stupid is just nuts. (How come the migrants didn’t get creamed by Katrina in New Orleans? Bush sent busses for them?)

    As for Terri Schaivo, I am so glad to see that some of those who claim that gays are not adequately recognized as “equal” under the fourteenth amendment when it come to marriage are quite willing to kill a person based on the word of a “guardian” after literally years of legal confusion. My…..goodness. What a simply convenient world some people invest their dreams in.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 26, 2008 @ 9:03 am - May 26, 2008

  27. helio: No criminal in this country would have been allowed to be killed in the way that that woman was ordered to die by a court.

    Comment by Vince P — May 26, 2008 @ 9:07 am - May 26, 2008

  28. Vince P: A death of convenience, if there ever was one. Her “guardian” was tying up “lose ends.” He should have moved her to the Netherlands where he could have gotten the job done with little trouble. Or, if he had gotten right on it at the beginning, maybe he could have farmed her organs. Perhaps there should be a federal agency that advises guardians on how to capitalize on their positions. This seems like a natural for John Edwards. Junk “medicine” is a gold mine.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 26, 2008 @ 9:50 am - May 26, 2008

  29. I am perpetually surprised at the enduring impact of Schiavo. Many younger voters will declare this event is what soured them on the GOP. Recalling the media treatment of it, we can understand why, so it must be said yet again; Terri Schiavo was murdered by her husband. It took decades and years of chicanery but finally he was able to finish the deed in the most cruel manner imaginable once he had secured the collusion of the political Left in this country. Publicly and repeatedly, her parents struggled to save her from death. They failed. The actions of the House were completely Constitutional which is more than you can say for most of what it does. This was a disgusting chapter in our recent history and the conventional wisdom on it is utterly inverted. Orwell would puke at this murder of mercy. This is another topic on which silence is unwise and immoral.

    Comment by megapotamus — May 27, 2008 @ 1:55 pm - May 27, 2008

  30. #3 – LMAO!! I was a big Flip Wilson fan.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — May 27, 2008 @ 4:13 pm - May 27, 2008

  31. Many younger voters will declare this event is what soured them on the GOP.

    That can be easily remedied with a simple question:

    “If you were lying there, unable to speak, unable to make your wishes known, what would you prefer; a party that requires your case to be reviewed by impartial courts, or a party that would let your life support be disconnected instantly when one person says so?”

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 28, 2008 @ 1:23 am - May 28, 2008

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