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	<title>Comments on: Dutch Media Also Downplay Amsterdam Gay-bashing</title>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; that doesnâ€™t necessarily mean that an entire nation condones homosexuality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not sure what to make of that statement. Is that a goal, that whole nations should unconditionally accept homosexuality? That is beyond Utopian. Nobody on this earth is free of prejudice or some form of discrimination, human nature is clannish and tribal.
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;You can see that mentality reflected in this situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That is not what I see at all, what I see is a society that has been good at giving lipservice to protecting it&#039;s diverse members. In reality, the Dutch have decided that one group is more equal than others - Muslims - they are getting all the breaks from the law these days.
This isn&#039;t the first attack in Holland. When I go to a pro Israeli rally here in the US, I am thrilled to see all the cops out there protecting us. They know that such an event can lead to problems from Israel haters. Why can&#039;t be Dutch police be out in force on a day like that, especially near a gay pride event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> that doesnâ€™t necessarily mean that an entire nation condones homosexuality.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to make of that statement. Is that a goal, that whole nations should unconditionally accept homosexuality? That is beyond Utopian. Nobody on this earth is free of prejudice or some form of discrimination, human nature is clannish and tribal.</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>You can see that mentality reflected in this situation.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is not what I see at all, what I see is a society that has been good at giving lipservice to protecting it&#8217;s diverse members. In reality, the Dutch have decided that one group is more equal than others &#8211; Muslims &#8211; they are getting all the breaks from the law these days.<br />
This isn&#8217;t the first attack in Holland. When I go to a pro Israeli rally here in the US, I am thrilled to see all the cops out there protecting us. They know that such an event can lead to problems from Israel haters. Why can&#8217;t be Dutch police be out in force on a day like that, especially near a gay pride event.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 - So Vince, let me see if I understand this:  we in the USA and the rest of the Western World are responsible for producing gays and lesbians, and it is our fault that the Middle East islamofascists are killing people like us because they do not fit into their society.

This is more bull than a Merrill Lynch commercial.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 &#8211; So Vince, let me see if I understand this:  we in the USA and the rest of the Western World are responsible for producing gays and lesbians, and it is our fault that the Middle East islamofascists are killing people like us because they do not fit into their society.</p>
<p>This is more bull than a Merrill Lynch commercial.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact I read it in ad.nl, which is a respectable site. I&#039;m not saying that gays in the Netherlands are hated, but the Dutch themselves don&#039;t exactly embrace them, either. They may have more rights in the Netherlands than in some other countries, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that an entire nation condones homosexuality.

You can see that  mentality reflected in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact I read it in ad.nl, which is a respectable site. I&#8217;m not saying that gays in the Netherlands are hated, but the Dutch themselves don&#8217;t exactly embrace them, either. They may have more rights in the Netherlands than in some other countries, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that an entire nation condones homosexuality.</p>
<p>You can see that  mentality reflected in this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Columbia University MidEast Studies professor blames West for gays in Muslim lands

Columbia University professor Joseph Massad numbers one more mark against the West. This professor hails from the same department that hosted Edward Said and now hosts, in the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies chair, Barack Obama friend and fierce critic of Israel Rashid Khalidi. 


Jamie Sneider of the Weekly Standard captures the madness:


&lt;blockquote&gt;...Massad belongs on a psychiatrist&#039;s couch, not behind a podium. In Desiring Arabs, Massad asserts that the West &quot;produces homosexuals as well as gays and lesbians, where they do not exist.&quot; But for colonialism, Massad contends, there would be no gay people in the Middle East for the tyrannical governments of Egypt and Iran to persecute. Although Massad says he opposes hanging gay people, he shifts the blame from the hooded executioners to the United States. 


When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Columbia last fall and made a similar claim (&quot;In Iran, we don&#039;t have homosexuals like in your country.&quot;), students laughed and booed. They recently, however, elected to award Massad the Lionel Trilling Book Award for making the nearly identical claim.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/columbia_university_mideast_st.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Columbia University MidEast Studies professor blames West for gays in Muslim lands</p>
<p>Columbia University professor Joseph Massad numbers one more mark against the West. This professor hails from the same department that hosted Edward Said and now hosts, in the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies chair, Barack Obama friend and fierce critic of Israel Rashid Khalidi. </p>
<p>Jamie Sneider of the Weekly Standard captures the madness:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Massad belongs on a psychiatrist&#8217;s couch, not behind a podium. In Desiring Arabs, Massad asserts that the West &#8220;produces homosexuals as well as gays and lesbians, where they do not exist.&#8221; But for colonialism, Massad contends, there would be no gay people in the Middle East for the tyrannical governments of Egypt and Iran to persecute. Although Massad says he opposes hanging gay people, he shifts the blame from the hooded executioners to the United States. </p>
<p>When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Columbia last fall and made a similar claim (&#8220;In Iran, we don&#8217;t have homosexuals like in your country.&#8221;), students laughed and booed. They recently, however, elected to award Massad the Lionel Trilling Book Award for making the nearly identical claim.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/columbia_university_mideast_st.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/columbia_university_mideast_st.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gluttony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gluttony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for so much downplay is because it would start a mockery of their legal system. We have that problem in the united states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for so much downplay is because it would start a mockery of their legal system. We have that problem in the united states.</p>
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