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		<title>By: PatriotMom</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-221636</link>
		<dc:creator>PatriotMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS

Put a good word in up in Heaven that this election turns out for the GOOD of the United States of America!!!!!</description>
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<p>Put a good word in up in Heaven that this election turns out for the GOOD of the United States of America!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: PatriotMom</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-221635</link>
		<dc:creator>PatriotMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Russert was Meet the Press!!!!!  Yesterday&#039;s tribute to him was so moving.  This morning his son, Luke, was on the Today show and what a truly wonderful tribute to his Dad he is.
TIM, RIP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Russert was Meet the Press!!!!!  Yesterday&#8217;s tribute to him was so moving.  This morning his son, Luke, was on the Today show and what a truly wonderful tribute to his Dad he is.<br />
TIM, RIP</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-220332</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Quite pesky isnâ€™t it, having that 3rd branch of government to make sure that we actually follow the law? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly which law was followed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Quite pesky isnâ€™t it, having that 3rd branch of government to make sure that we actually follow the law? </p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly which law was followed?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-220120</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And spread the 400 or so terrorists from Gitmo to these communtiy jails. Let Kevin and his brothers have them in their midst and feed and clothe them. Generally make nice. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Are you kidding? They&#039;d be lining up for conjugal visits!

Kevin has no clue what he&#039;s talking about. You know he wouldnt even consider reading the dissents, or read the precedent that the court admitted it trampled. Kevin, like all liberals doesn&#039;t give a rats ass about the constitution, the separation of powers, or even the terrorists. He simply is against whatever Bush is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And spread the 400 or so terrorists from Gitmo to these communtiy jails. Let Kevin and his brothers have them in their midst and feed and clothe them. Generally make nice. </p></blockquote>
<p>Are you kidding? They&#8217;d be lining up for conjugal visits!</p>
<p>Kevin has no clue what he&#8217;s talking about. You know he wouldnt even consider reading the dissents, or read the precedent that the court admitted it trampled. Kevin, like all liberals doesn&#8217;t give a rats ass about the constitution, the separation of powers, or even the terrorists. He simply is against whatever Bush is for.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-220015</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35: &quot;So I guess inviting Kevin to our church ice cream social might be a waste of time?&quot;

Well, if by &quot;waste of time&quot; you&#039;re thinking of that scene from the Omen where Gregory Peck is taking his son to Sunday services for the first time, and when Damien gets one glimpse of the cross on top of the steeple he starts having spastic convulsions, while screaming and clawing Lee Remick&#039;s face to bloody ribbons, then YES.  I would consider that a &quot;waste of time.&quot;

Now, if I ever attend a wiccan-polytheistic-soy-frozen-milk-ANTI-SOCIAL-Ouija-ritual, then I can&#039;t think of a more enchanting companion than Kevin.  I&#039;m no FOOL.  I wouldn&#039;t DREAM of summoning the dark forces and/or joining their hellish crusade without Kevin being there.  Without Kevin and his handcrafted voodoo marionettes and gasoline-soaked effigies, well...the party has no where to go but down.  You know I&#039;m right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35: &#8220;So I guess inviting Kevin to our church ice cream social might be a waste of time?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if by &#8220;waste of time&#8221; you&#8217;re thinking of that scene from the Omen where Gregory Peck is taking his son to Sunday services for the first time, and when Damien gets one glimpse of the cross on top of the steeple he starts having spastic convulsions, while screaming and clawing Lee Remick&#8217;s face to bloody ribbons, then YES.  I would consider that a &#8220;waste of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, if I ever attend a wiccan-polytheistic-soy-frozen-milk-ANTI-SOCIAL-Ouija-ritual, then I can&#8217;t think of a more enchanting companion than Kevin.  I&#8217;m no FOOL.  I wouldn&#8217;t DREAM of summoning the dark forces and/or joining their hellish crusade without Kevin being there.  Without Kevin and his handcrafted voodoo marionettes and gasoline-soaked effigies, well&#8230;the party has no where to go but down.  You know I&#8217;m right.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219997</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This oen would definately get Kevin upsetâ€¦ listen to the way they are shouting in joyâ€¦ how mean !&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, nos! Soldiers shouting in joy over the destruction of the enemy! No. No. No. Our men in uniform are supposed to be anguished or at least conflicted by it so they can come home, get on mental health disability, and join Iraq Veterans Against War! The modern feminized soldier doesn&#039;t shout when Mr. Jihadi meets Mr. JDAM, he&#039;s supposed to strike his best Alan Alda pose and sigh, &quot;This isn&#039;t a war, it&#039;s a murder!&quot; 

Not to mention all those horrible greenhouse gases a burning jihadi gives off. Who knows how many friendly, cuddly polar bears would be drowned by burning off Murat Kunaz&#039;s beard!  Think of the polar bears! Think of the polar bears!

/lefty twit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This oen would definately get Kevin upsetâ€¦ listen to the way they are shouting in joyâ€¦ how mean !</i></p>
<p>Oh, nos! Soldiers shouting in joy over the destruction of the enemy! No. No. No. Our men in uniform are supposed to be anguished or at least conflicted by it so they can come home, get on mental health disability, and join Iraq Veterans Against War! The modern feminized soldier doesn&#8217;t shout when Mr. Jihadi meets Mr. JDAM, he&#8217;s supposed to strike his best Alan Alda pose and sigh, &#8220;This isn&#8217;t a war, it&#8217;s a murder!&#8221; </p>
<p>Not to mention all those horrible greenhouse gases a burning jihadi gives off. Who knows how many friendly, cuddly polar bears would be drowned by burning off Murat Kunaz&#8217;s beard!  Think of the polar bears! Think of the polar bears!</p>
<p>/lefty twit</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27 Sean A:

So I guess inviting Kevin to our church ice cream social might be a waste of time?</description>
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<p>So I guess inviting Kevin to our church ice cream social might be a waste of time?</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219955</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare Michelle be so ethnically insensitive!</description>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219953</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you guys will LOVE this one.  It&#039;s appropriately titled, &quot;Not the sharpest scimitar in Allah&#039;s scabbard.&quot;  Kevin will recognize this from his jihadi-training--for what NOT to do.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27/not-the-sharpest-scimitar-in-allahs-scabbard/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys will LOVE this one.  It&#8217;s appropriately titled, &#8220;Not the sharpest scimitar in Allah&#8217;s scabbard.&#8221;  Kevin will recognize this from his jihadi-training&#8211;for what NOT to do.</p>
<p><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27/not-the-sharpest-scimitar-in-allahs-scabbard/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27/not-the-sharpest-scimitar-in-allahs-scabbard/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219941</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another one.  

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=13c_1194146606

This is probably my fav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another one.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=13c_1194146606" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=13c_1194146606</a></p>
<p>This is probably my fav</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219928</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This oen would definately get Kevin upset... listen to the way they are shouting in joy... how mean !

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f0b_1201663566</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This oen would definately get Kevin upset&#8230; listen to the way they are shouting in joy&#8230; how mean !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f0b_1201663566" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f0b_1201663566</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219927</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this one better

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1213457415</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this one better</p>
<p><a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1213457415" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1213457415</a></p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219908</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e7a_1207914162&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kevin loses some friends&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e7a_1207914162" rel="nofollow">Kevin loses some friends</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/13/24-disturbing-hours-in-american-history/comment-page-1/#comment-219904</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V the K, I wish I hadn&#039;t clicked on the link. I don&#039;t recall seeing his happy mug before. He should never, ever be profiled by the TSA. Not when there are grandmas with walkers trying to smuggle too much toothpaste aboard.

Kevin for Librarian of Congress and Official Panda Bamboo Shoot Feeder!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V the K, I wish I hadn&#8217;t clicked on the link. I don&#8217;t recall seeing his happy mug before. He should never, ever be profiled by the TSA. Not when there are grandmas with walkers trying to smuggle too much toothpaste aboard.</p>
<p>Kevin for Librarian of Congress and Official Panda Bamboo Shoot Feeder!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19: â€œShould terrorists whoâ€™ve committed heinous acts be brought to justice? of course they should.â€

Kevin, youâ€™re filthy liar.  You donâ€™t believe terrorists should be brought to justice in the least, and certainly not those that have been released from Gitmo. If you wanted any Muslim terrorist on Earth punished for anything, you wouldnâ€™t be so cavalier about the Bush Administration â€œhaving only itself to blameâ€ if, because of the â€œmuddy watersâ€ they â€œcreated,â€ terrorists were actually released.  Easy come, easy go, right?

Lord knows, Iâ€™ve certainly wasted time trying to educate blithering, treasonous idiots like Kevin on this issue in particular, but it is a TRULY pointless exercise because even if they LOSE on the guilty/innocent argument, they have a backupâ€”even when Gitmo detainees turn out to be guilty, THEYâ€™RE STILL INNOCENT.

I first witnessed this obscene approach to arguing about Gitmo when I read a column on Huffpost (I know, I asked for it) and the ridiculous comments posted below it.  It described a truly VILE argument on this issue, one that I have no doubt Kevin would take up without hesitation.

The column was about a terrorist who was released from Gitmo and later, along with two other suicide bombers, murdered 7 members of the Iraqi security forces.  Hereâ€™s the title of the column:

Identification of Ex-Guantanamo Suicide Bomber Unleashes Pentagon Propaganda
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-worthington/identification-of-ex-guan_b_101190.html

The Pentagonâ€™s â€œpropagandaâ€ was actually having the temerity to suggest that not ALL of the Gitmo detainees were necessarily poor, innocent victims, just looking for a publisher for their works of poetry, as the Left had depicted them.

It gets worse.  Read this paragraph:

â€œThe question remains, therefore, whether al-Ajmi was lying in GuantÃ¡namo -- which is, of course, a possibility -- or whether the abuse he suffered for four years in US custody radicalized him and led to his final manifestation as a suicide bomber. The clues provide mixed messages. In GuantÃ¡namo, the authorities certainly regarded him as a threat, noting that his behavior had been so â€˜aggressive and non-compliantâ€™ that he had â€˜resided in the disciplinary blocks throughout his detention,â€™ but there appears to be no way of knowing if he was â€˜aggressive and non-compliantâ€™ because he was a sworn militant or because he was profoundly angered by his experiences in US custody.â€

So, was al-Ajmi a violent jihadist all along?  Or was he angrily radicalized due to his confinement by U.S. forcesâ€”in fact, DRIVEN to his â€œfinal manifestation as a suicide bomberâ€ by America?

You guessed it.  Itâ€™s all our fault.  He was a peace-loving poet/shepherd until he went to Gitmo.  Then he was suddenly transformed into a violent, suicidal jihadist.  Thus, the columnist concluded, the story was not only insufficient justification for U.S. policy and particularly Gitmo, but more evidence of it being a dismal failure that had caused more unnecessary and innocent deaths.

The author (and the band of idiots that commented on his column) chalked it up to embittered retaliation against the evil U.S. (even though Americans werenâ€™t targeted).  WORSE, the fact that al-Ajmiâ€™s â€œretaliationâ€ against America was committed as a SUICIDE ATTACK was just flatly ignored.  Of course, outside the MSM, suicide attacks are the quickest way to martyrdom for violent Muslim terrorists which would (DUH!) suggest al-Ajmi held these extremist views ALL ALONG.  But the fact that al-Ajmi KILLED HIMSELF while lashing out against â€œAmericaâ€  (and by â€œAmerica,â€ I mean â€œIraqi security forcesâ€), was considered completely insignificant in the analysis. 

What all of this reveals is that liberals like Kevin are not upset that the Gitmo detainees are (or, wereâ€¦) denied the presumption of innocence applicable to defendants in American courts. They are upset because they believe an entirely different standard should apply to the detainees: innocent until proven guilty; and innocent AFTER proven guilty.

It&#039;s utterly pointless to argue issues of guilt or innocence at Gitmo with people like Kevin (seriously....I mean, c&#039;mon....it&#039;s KEVIN!) because there are NO CIRCUMSTANCES under which an anti-American, moral relativist like Kevin would ever hold a violent Muslim terrorist singularly accountable for his actions before blaming the U.S. FIRST.

So when you hear people like Kevin say things like, &quot;Should terrorists whoâ€™ve committed heinous acts be brought to justice? of course they... blahblahbullshitbullshitbullshitblahblahblah...,&quot; it&#039;s easy to tell that they&#039;re lying, because in the next sentence, they start using one of their favorite expressions: &quot;WITCH HUNT.&quot;  See, the whole terrorism thing?  They don&#039;t believe in it.  &quot;Terrorists&quot; are just a bunch of &quot;witches&quot; that conservatives made up to put that evil plan fueled by &quot;fear-mongering&quot; into action.  It&#039;s all &quot;hysteria and lies&quot; as far as Kevin is concerned, so it&#039;s not possible for any terrorists inside or outside of Gitmo to ever be guilty of ANYTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19: â€œShould terrorists whoâ€™ve committed heinous acts be brought to justice? of course they should.â€</p>
<p>Kevin, youâ€™re filthy liar.  You donâ€™t believe terrorists should be brought to justice in the least, and certainly not those that have been released from Gitmo. If you wanted any Muslim terrorist on Earth punished for anything, you wouldnâ€™t be so cavalier about the Bush Administration â€œhaving only itself to blameâ€ if, because of the â€œmuddy watersâ€ they â€œcreated,â€ terrorists were actually released.  Easy come, easy go, right?</p>
<p>Lord knows, Iâ€™ve certainly wasted time trying to educate blithering, treasonous idiots like Kevin on this issue in particular, but it is a TRULY pointless exercise because even if they LOSE on the guilty/innocent argument, they have a backupâ€”even when Gitmo detainees turn out to be guilty, THEYâ€™RE STILL INNOCENT.</p>
<p>I first witnessed this obscene approach to arguing about Gitmo when I read a column on Huffpost (I know, I asked for it) and the ridiculous comments posted below it.  It described a truly VILE argument on this issue, one that I have no doubt Kevin would take up without hesitation.</p>
<p>The column was about a terrorist who was released from Gitmo and later, along with two other suicide bombers, murdered 7 members of the Iraqi security forces.  Hereâ€™s the title of the column:</p>
<p>Identification of Ex-Guantanamo Suicide Bomber Unleashes Pentagon Propaganda<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-worthington/identification-of-ex-guan_b_101190.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-worthington/identification-of-ex-guan_b_101190.html</a></p>
<p>The Pentagonâ€™s â€œpropagandaâ€ was actually having the temerity to suggest that not ALL of the Gitmo detainees were necessarily poor, innocent victims, just looking for a publisher for their works of poetry, as the Left had depicted them.</p>
<p>It gets worse.  Read this paragraph:</p>
<p>â€œThe question remains, therefore, whether al-Ajmi was lying in GuantÃ¡namo &#8212; which is, of course, a possibility &#8212; or whether the abuse he suffered for four years in US custody radicalized him and led to his final manifestation as a suicide bomber. The clues provide mixed messages. In GuantÃ¡namo, the authorities certainly regarded him as a threat, noting that his behavior had been so â€˜aggressive and non-compliantâ€™ that he had â€˜resided in the disciplinary blocks throughout his detention,â€™ but there appears to be no way of knowing if he was â€˜aggressive and non-compliantâ€™ because he was a sworn militant or because he was profoundly angered by his experiences in US custody.â€</p>
<p>So, was al-Ajmi a violent jihadist all along?  Or was he angrily radicalized due to his confinement by U.S. forcesâ€”in fact, DRIVEN to his â€œfinal manifestation as a suicide bomberâ€ by America?</p>
<p>You guessed it.  Itâ€™s all our fault.  He was a peace-loving poet/shepherd until he went to Gitmo.  Then he was suddenly transformed into a violent, suicidal jihadist.  Thus, the columnist concluded, the story was not only insufficient justification for U.S. policy and particularly Gitmo, but more evidence of it being a dismal failure that had caused more unnecessary and innocent deaths.</p>
<p>The author (and the band of idiots that commented on his column) chalked it up to embittered retaliation against the evil U.S. (even though Americans werenâ€™t targeted).  WORSE, the fact that al-Ajmiâ€™s â€œretaliationâ€ against America was committed as a SUICIDE ATTACK was just flatly ignored.  Of course, outside the MSM, suicide attacks are the quickest way to martyrdom for violent Muslim terrorists which would (DUH!) suggest al-Ajmi held these extremist views ALL ALONG.  But the fact that al-Ajmi KILLED HIMSELF while lashing out against â€œAmericaâ€  (and by â€œAmerica,â€ I mean â€œIraqi security forcesâ€), was considered completely insignificant in the analysis. </p>
<p>What all of this reveals is that liberals like Kevin are not upset that the Gitmo detainees are (or, wereâ€¦) denied the presumption of innocence applicable to defendants in American courts. They are upset because they believe an entirely different standard should apply to the detainees: innocent until proven guilty; and innocent AFTER proven guilty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s utterly pointless to argue issues of guilt or innocence at Gitmo with people like Kevin (seriously&#8230;.I mean, c&#8217;mon&#8230;.it&#8217;s KEVIN!) because there are NO CIRCUMSTANCES under which an anti-American, moral relativist like Kevin would ever hold a violent Muslim terrorist singularly accountable for his actions before blaming the U.S. FIRST.</p>
<p>So when you hear people like Kevin say things like, &#8220;Should terrorists whoâ€™ve committed heinous acts be brought to justice? of course they&#8230; blahblahbullshitbullshitbullshitblahblahblah&#8230;,&#8221; it&#8217;s easy to tell that they&#8217;re lying, because in the next sentence, they start using one of their favorite expressions: &#8220;WITCH HUNT.&#8221;  See, the whole terrorism thing?  They don&#8217;t believe in it.  &#8220;Terrorists&#8221; are just a bunch of &#8220;witches&#8221; that conservatives made up to put that evil plan fueled by &#8220;fear-mongering&#8221; into action.  It&#8217;s all &#8220;hysteria and lies&#8221; as far as Kevin is concerned, so it&#8217;s not possible for any terrorists inside or outside of Gitmo to ever be guilty of ANYTHING.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, far be it from me to pile on Kevvie since everyone else is doing such a great job, but I will insert this thought into his pea-sized brain (and I&#039;m being generous about his abilities):

President Abraham Lincoln actually had a couple of Supreme Court justices arrested for high treason and removed from the bench during the Civil War because they basically tried to screw him from preserving the Union by declaring Southerners as &quot;non-enemy-combatants.&quot;  Would you have the same problem with that today if it were GWB?

Or better yet, snObama?

(Crickets chirping)

Checkmate.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, far be it from me to pile on Kevvie since everyone else is doing such a great job, but I will insert this thought into his pea-sized brain (and I&#8217;m being generous about his abilities):</p>
<p>President Abraham Lincoln actually had a couple of Supreme Court justices arrested for high treason and removed from the bench during the Civil War because they basically tried to screw him from preserving the Union by declaring Southerners as &#8220;non-enemy-combatants.&#8221;  Would you have the same problem with that today if it were GWB?</p>
<p>Or better yet, snObama?</p>
<p>(Crickets chirping)</p>
<p>Checkmate.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heliotrope, you&#039;re over-thinking it. Kevin just thinks &lt;a href=&quot;http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08PtbMwakC4kq/610x.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Murat Kurnaz is hot&lt;/a&gt;. 

By the way, if you borrow Kevin&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Illustrated Lord of the Rings&lt;/i&gt;, you&#039;ll find all the pages with Gimli on them stick together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliotrope, you&#8217;re over-thinking it. Kevin just thinks <a href="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08PtbMwakC4kq/610x.jpg" rel="nofollow">Murat Kurnaz is hot</a>. </p>
<p>By the way, if you borrow Kevin&#8217;s <i>Illustrated Lord of the Rings</i>, you&#8217;ll find all the pages with Gimli on them stick together.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got the solution to the &quot;abused&quot; prisoners at Club Gitmo. Since the leftists want them to have American rights. Identify maybe 10 leftists communities around the country. Of course they&#039;d be bright blue areas. And spread the 400 or so terrorists from Gitmo to these communtiy jails. Let Kevin and his brothers have them in their midst and feed and clothe them. Generally make nice. I&#039;m sure these radical terrorists will appreciate all of Kevins efforts and will thank them. I doubt leftists would have to fear the Gitmo guys, they won&#039;t have to worry about a jail break as just happened in Afganistan. Your children and mothers won&#039;t have to worry about terrorists being in the corner jail. If you are nice to them, I&#039;m sure they will be nice to you. Come on Democrats, volunteer to house these Gitmo prisoners in your communities. Raise your hands and poney up. The five supremes who just made law out of whole cloth, ought to be made to put some of the terrorists in half way houses on their blocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got the solution to the &#8220;abused&#8221; prisoners at Club Gitmo. Since the leftists want them to have American rights. Identify maybe 10 leftists communities around the country. Of course they&#8217;d be bright blue areas. And spread the 400 or so terrorists from Gitmo to these communtiy jails. Let Kevin and his brothers have them in their midst and feed and clothe them. Generally make nice. I&#8217;m sure these radical terrorists will appreciate all of Kevins efforts and will thank them. I doubt leftists would have to fear the Gitmo guys, they won&#8217;t have to worry about a jail break as just happened in Afganistan. Your children and mothers won&#8217;t have to worry about terrorists being in the corner jail. If you are nice to them, I&#8217;m sure they will be nice to you. Come on Democrats, volunteer to house these Gitmo prisoners in your communities. Raise your hands and poney up. The five supremes who just made law out of whole cloth, ought to be made to put some of the terrorists in half way houses on their blocks.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murat Kurnaz........&lt;blockquote&gt;Even though fully innocent of any terrorist or terrorist related activities.....&lt;/blockquote&gt; was....&lt;blockquote&gt;tortured in several ways&lt;/blockquote&gt;and....&lt;blockquote&gt;the Bush administrators and its supporters at all levels of government have only themselves to blame for muddying these waters with hysteria and lies&lt;/blockquote&gt;while Murat Kurnaz had....&lt;blockquote&gt;5 years of his life lost and not one drop of proof of any connections with terrorists whatsoever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, Kevin, you really do drink the Kool-Aid. For openers, what tribunal of law found Murat Kurnaz &quot;FULLY INNOCENT of any terrorist or terrorist related activities?

Where is the documentary evidence that Murat Kurnaz was &quot;tortured in several ways&quot; and what definition of &quot;torture&quot; are we using here?

Three examples of Bush administration &quot;hysteria&quot; and three examples of Bush administration &quot;lies&quot; please. Or just one each, if you prefer.

&quot;Not one drop of proof of ANY connections with terrorists WHATSOEVER.&quot; Will you bet your life on that? You should, because you leave no wiggle room in your statement.&lt;blockquote&gt;the Chancellor of German requested to Bush directly that he be released&lt;/blockquote&gt;Other Gitmo prisoners have been released to England, France, Spain, etc. at the request of their governments. It is part of Diplomatic Courtesy. The Chancellor of Germany had best hope that Murat Kurnaz keeps his nose clean, because Murat Kurnaz is officially the ward of the German state.

Hey, do you think they are watching him? After all, he is &quot;fully innocent of any terrorist of terrorist related activities&quot; and there is &quot;not on drop of proof of any connections with terrorists whatsoever.&quot;

Kevin for Director of CIA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murat Kurnaz&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
<blockquote>Even though fully innocent of any terrorist or terrorist related activities&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p> was&#8230;.<br />
<blockquote>tortured in several ways</p></blockquote>
<p>and&#8230;.<br />
<blockquote>the Bush administrators and its supporters at all levels of government have only themselves to blame for muddying these waters with hysteria and lies</p></blockquote>
<p>while Murat Kurnaz had&#8230;.<br />
<blockquote>5 years of his life lost and not one drop of proof of any connections with terrorists whatsoever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, Kevin, you really do drink the Kool-Aid. For openers, what tribunal of law found Murat Kurnaz &#8220;FULLY INNOCENT of any terrorist or terrorist related activities?</p>
<p>Where is the documentary evidence that Murat Kurnaz was &#8220;tortured in several ways&#8221; and what definition of &#8220;torture&#8221; are we using here?</p>
<p>Three examples of Bush administration &#8220;hysteria&#8221; and three examples of Bush administration &#8220;lies&#8221; please. Or just one each, if you prefer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not one drop of proof of ANY connections with terrorists WHATSOEVER.&#8221; Will you bet your life on that? You should, because you leave no wiggle room in your statement.<br />
<blockquote>the Chancellor of German requested to Bush directly that he be released</p></blockquote>
<p>Other Gitmo prisoners have been released to England, France, Spain, etc. at the request of their governments. It is part of Diplomatic Courtesy. The Chancellor of Germany had best hope that Murat Kurnaz keeps his nose clean, because Murat Kurnaz is officially the ward of the German state.</p>
<p>Hey, do you think they are watching him? After all, he is &#8220;fully innocent of any terrorist of terrorist related activities&#8221; and there is &#8220;not on drop of proof of any connections with terrorists whatsoever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kevin for Director of CIA!</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what&#039;s odd, is Kevin rants that Republicans or religious Christians want to exterminate him. And yet, when the Islamists who really do, openly and avowedly, want to exterminate him win a major victory... he cheers and gloats. 

That&#039;s pretty f---ed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8217;s odd, is Kevin rants that Republicans or religious Christians want to exterminate him. And yet, when the Islamists who really do, openly and avowedly, want to exterminate him win a major victory&#8230; he cheers and gloats. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty f&#8212;ed up.</p>
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