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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31: Most of the world is not steeped in the ideals of liberty and individual rights. In European elections you basically get a choice between a communist and a fascist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31: Most of the world is not steeped in the ideals of liberty and individual rights. In European elections you basically get a choice between a communist and a fascist.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(clarification - I meant &quot;...and whose authors claim that everyone does the same thing...&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(clarification &#8211; I meant &#8220;&#8230;and whose authors claim that everyone does the same thing&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/17/bush-hatred-stems-from-psychosis-of-some-on-left-not-record-of-this-republican-president/comment-page-1/#comment-225149</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now I have different subjectivities.. not better - different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;david, if you truly believe that Truth is a matter of personal &quot;subjectivities&quot;, then I believe you are making the right choice in not offering more of your opinions here.

Opinions formed by subjective, emotional methods - and which, consequently, suffer greatly in quality of facts/logic - and whose authors claim that everyone is just like them: Not what the world needs more of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now I have different subjectivities.. not better &#8211; different.</p></blockquote>
<p>david, if you truly believe that Truth is a matter of personal &#8220;subjectivities&#8221;, then I believe you are making the right choice in not offering more of your opinions here.</p>
<p>Opinions formed by subjective, emotional methods &#8211; and which, consequently, suffer greatly in quality of facts/logic &#8211; and whose authors claim that everyone is just like them: Not what the world needs more of.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/06/17/bush-hatred-stems-from-psychosis-of-some-on-left-not-record-of-this-republican-president/comment-page-1/#comment-225148</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It occurs to me that if weâ€™re going to call out the left on their deranged paranoia about Bush, we should really try to avoid sounding even a little bit like we have a deranged paranoia about Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#a54ef44,2008-06-18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;House Democrats Call for the Seizure of the Refining Industry&lt;/a&gt;

I hardly think taking people at their word is paranoia. 

Thinking that a party that has given us the New Deal and Great Society wont nationalize the health care and oil industries when they are openly calling for it, on the other hand, strikes me as naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It occurs to me that if weâ€™re going to call out the left on their deranged paranoia about Bush, we should really try to avoid sounding even a little bit like we have a deranged paranoia about Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#a54ef44,2008-06-18" rel="nofollow">House Democrats Call for the Seizure of the Refining Industry</a></p>
<p>I hardly think taking people at their word is paranoia. </p>
<p>Thinking that a party that has given us the New Deal and Great Society wont nationalize the health care and oil industries when they are openly calling for it, on the other hand, strikes me as naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30: By all means.. please comment.

The only people who get the angry responses are the semi-regular troublemakers who aren&#039;t interested in just talking but come here to stir trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30: By all means.. please comment.</p>
<p>The only people who get the angry responses are the semi-regular troublemakers who aren&#8217;t interested in just talking but come here to stir trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m not ready to get picked apart by folks who believe themselves to be the only objective creatures on the planet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pardon me if I&#039;m not as edumacated as some, but isn&#039;t that a part of life? If you have strong convictions in what you believe in, why would you care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m not ready to get picked apart by folks who believe themselves to be the only objective creatures on the planet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pardon me if I&#8217;m not as edumacated as some, but isn&#8217;t that a part of life? If you have strong convictions in what you believe in, why would you care?</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It occurs to me that if we&#039;re going to call out the left on their deranged paranoia about Bush, we should really try to avoid sounding even a little bit like we have a deranged paranoia about Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurs to me that if we&#8217;re going to call out the left on their deranged paranoia about Bush, we should really try to avoid sounding even a little bit like we have a deranged paranoia about Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh there will still be a USA after Obama. The problem is that it may very well be a very different, much more socialized USA. And the changes, as history indicates, may be impossible to reverse.

Democrats have a very simple and very effective formula: the more they promise to do for people, the more dependent on government people become. The more dependent they become, the more you can offer to do for them. And other than very modest welfare reform, when has any of it ever been reversed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh there will still be a USA after Obama. The problem is that it may very well be a very different, much more socialized USA. And the changes, as history indicates, may be impossible to reverse.</p>
<p>Democrats have a very simple and very effective formula: the more they promise to do for people, the more dependent on government people become. The more dependent they become, the more you can offer to do for them. And other than very modest welfare reform, when has any of it ever been reversed?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 - V, only if there is still a USA standing after his administration, provided he doesn&#039;t get enough Congressmen to try and repeal the 22nd Amendment.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 &#8211; V, only if there is still a USA standing after his administration, provided he doesn&#8217;t get enough Congressmen to try and repeal the 22nd Amendment.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama gets elected this year, then Americans will get a chance in 2012 to replace an anti-American administration with one more friendly to America&#039;s values and strategic interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama gets elected this year, then Americans will get a chance in 2012 to replace an anti-American administration with one more friendly to America&#8217;s values and strategic interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Strickand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Strickand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In ref to #15  I believe it was that many European Countries have replaced an anti&#039;American hating administration with ones who are more friendly.  Which must say something about the mood of the voters in these countries that is apparently being distorted by AP polls showing how much they hate America.  I think the story of the Iraqi&#039;s delegation who went to Walter Reed and were amazed by the smiles and good spirits of the wounded, and then went to meet with Obama and were treated to a meeting with a staffer who gave them a list of all the things America had done wrong in the war.  The Iraq delegation was not impressed and while admitted that mistakes had been made, good was also done and the Democrats are loathe to even admit that.   I did not think Clinton was the worst president we ever had , but I did not hate him.  I did not like a lot of his policies or personal behavior...but I find it really a scary statement on the state of our spiritual being in this country that so many go on blogs and spew out venom against Bush, the Military (no apologies yet for the falsely accused Haditha troops) Christians, and any political policy that leans right. I fear truly that we are going to tear our country apart in short order if we don&#039;t get our out of control emotions under control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In ref to #15  I believe it was that many European Countries have replaced an anti&#8217;American hating administration with ones who are more friendly.  Which must say something about the mood of the voters in these countries that is apparently being distorted by AP polls showing how much they hate America.  I think the story of the Iraqi&#8217;s delegation who went to Walter Reed and were amazed by the smiles and good spirits of the wounded, and then went to meet with Obama and were treated to a meeting with a staffer who gave them a list of all the things America had done wrong in the war.  The Iraq delegation was not impressed and while admitted that mistakes had been made, good was also done and the Democrats are loathe to even admit that.   I did not think Clinton was the worst president we ever had , but I did not hate him.  I did not like a lot of his policies or personal behavior&#8230;but I find it really a scary statement on the state of our spiritual being in this country that so many go on blogs and spew out venom against Bush, the Military (no apologies yet for the falsely accused Haditha troops) Christians, and any political policy that leans right. I fear truly that we are going to tear our country apart in short order if we don&#8217;t get our out of control emotions under control.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Frankly, MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american politics has acted in the last 8 years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;MOST of the world is also concerned that &quot;man-made&#039; Global Warming is destroying the Earth, indeed, MOST of the world thinks the Earth is warming when in fact it not only hasnt warmed in the past 10 years, but has actually cooled. MOST of the world is scared of bird flu and I would not at all be surprised to hear that MOST of the world believes 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government. 

MOST of the world was scared to death of Ronald Reagans approach to the cold war. 

MOST of the world gets their information from the same lockstep liberal sources: AP, BBC, AFP, CNN etc

OH, and by the way, MOST of the world thinks homosexuality is a sin. I suppose you think homosexuals should all repent and change their evil ways?

MOST of the world is pretty damn ignorant. 

Another fabulous reason not to vote for the party that puts so much stock in what MOST of the world thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Frankly, MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american politics has acted in the last 8 years.</p></blockquote>
<p>MOST of the world is also concerned that &#8220;man-made&#8217; Global Warming is destroying the Earth, indeed, MOST of the world thinks the Earth is warming when in fact it not only hasnt warmed in the past 10 years, but has actually cooled. MOST of the world is scared of bird flu and I would not at all be surprised to hear that MOST of the world believes 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government. </p>
<p>MOST of the world was scared to death of Ronald Reagans approach to the cold war. </p>
<p>MOST of the world gets their information from the same lockstep liberal sources: AP, BBC, AFP, CNN etc</p>
<p>OH, and by the way, MOST of the world thinks homosexuality is a sin. I suppose you think homosexuals should all repent and change their evil ways?</p>
<p>MOST of the world is pretty damn ignorant. </p>
<p>Another fabulous reason not to vote for the party that puts so much stock in what MOST of the world thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27 I really appreciate that. But, honestly, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m going to stick around here. 

Here&#039;s the deal - I have a bias. Because I am human I have bias. The people that I talk to and am informed by have biases. Left, right and spinning in circles biases. Five years ago I was a completely different person with subjective thoughts that were much more in line with those expressed en-mass here. Now I have different subjectivities.. not better - different.

I read and comment in many places around the internet and IRL where I do not share the same subjectivity as those i converse with. But what is absolutely necessary is that they own that. Just as I need to own it. 

In this I am in no way referring to the proprietors of this space. Bruce and Dan have impressed me to no end with their respectful and confident attitudes. They own their bias proudly. 

However, many of the comments here are a different animal. Reading through this site i have found far too many folks claiming freedom from bias, claiming centrality of opinion, claiming purity of motives and claiming the same for their source material. That&#039;s just not honest or helpful. I&#039;m not ready to get picked apart by folks who believe themselves to be the only objective creatures on the planet.

I&#039;ll most definitely continue to read here, but will never comment.

thanks for hearing me.
david.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27 I really appreciate that. But, honestly, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m going to stick around here. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the deal &#8211; I have a bias. Because I am human I have bias. The people that I talk to and am informed by have biases. Left, right and spinning in circles biases. Five years ago I was a completely different person with subjective thoughts that were much more in line with those expressed en-mass here. Now I have different subjectivities.. not better &#8211; different.</p>
<p>I read and comment in many places around the internet and IRL where I do not share the same subjectivity as those i converse with. But what is absolutely necessary is that they own that. Just as I need to own it. </p>
<p>In this I am in no way referring to the proprietors of this space. Bruce and Dan have impressed me to no end with their respectful and confident attitudes. They own their bias proudly. </p>
<p>However, many of the comments here are a different animal. Reading through this site i have found far too many folks claiming freedom from bias, claiming centrality of opinion, claiming purity of motives and claiming the same for their source material. That&#8217;s just not honest or helpful. I&#8217;m not ready to get picked apart by folks who believe themselves to be the only objective creatures on the planet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll most definitely continue to read here, but will never comment.</p>
<p>thanks for hearing me.<br />
david.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK paper, Telegraph, has a Foreign Correspondent Blog. They have two reporters in America who contribute to it. They&#039;re totally in the bag for Obama.


In this thread: 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/trailmix/june08/mccainwomen.htm

I have made the following comments..


I was reading a Mark Steyn article about Obama .. and I think this part distills this election down to its essense. Here he is talking about Obama&#039;s speech after the last primary:

BEGIN QUOTE
By the time he wrapped up his &quot;victory&quot; speech last week, the great gaseous uplift had his final paragraphs floating in delirious hallucination along the Milky Way: 

&quot;I face this challenge with profound humility and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people â€¦ . I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal â€¦ . This was the moment â€“ this was the time â€“ when we came together to remake this great nation.&quot; 

It&#039;s a good thing he&#039;s facing it with &quot;profound humility,&quot; isn&#039;t it? Because otherwise who knows what he&#039;d be saying. But mark it in your calendars: June 3, 2008 â€“ the long-awaited day, after 232 years, that America began to provide care for the sick. Just a small test program: 47 attendees of the Obama speech were taken to hospital and treated for nausea. 

Everyone else came away thrilled that the Obamessiah was going to heal the planet and reverse the rise of the oceans: When Barack wants to walk on the water, he doesn&#039;t want to have to use a stepladder to get up on it. There are generally two reactions to this kind of policy proposal. The first was exemplified by the Atlantic Monthly&#039;s Marc Ambinder: 

&quot;What a different emotional register from John McCain&#039;s; Obama seems on the verge of tears; the enormous crowd in the Xcel Center seems ready to lift Obama on its shoulders; the much smaller audience for McCain&#039;s speech interrupted his remarks with stilted cheers.&quot; 

The second reaction boils down to: &quot;&#039;Heal the planet&#039;? Is this guy nuts?&quot; To be honest I prefer a republic whose citizenry can muster no greater enthusiasm for their candidate than &quot;stilted cheers&quot; to one in which the crowd wants to hoist the nominee onto their shoulders for promising to lower ocean levels within his first term. As for coming together &quot;to remake this great nation,&quot; if it&#039;s so great, why do we have to remake it? A few months back, just after the New Hampshire primary, a Canadian reader of mine â€“ John Gross of Quebec â€“ sent me an all-purpose stump speech for the 2008 campaign: 

&quot;My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you&#039;ll join with me as we try to change it.&quot; 
END QUOTE



I&#039;m in the &quot;Is this guy nuts&quot; category. It&#039;s amazing to me how reporters are being struck down in awe and adoration for Obama. I think to myself.. just how gullible are these people that they&#039;re falling for this charalton.

Use your brains people.. how could someone whose entire political history consists of associating with Nation of Islam, Marxists, Far Left Terrorists, the most corrupt politicians in Chicago/Cook County/State of Illinois, Communists, Pro-HAMAS Palestinians, Black Liberation Theology (fusion of mutant Christianity and Latin American Marxism)/Deranged Catholic Priests

and think this guy has been Mr. Hope and Change!

You&#039;re being manipulated by masters of PR. 

And you&#039;re lapping it up.

If the United States is great now.. why does Obama keep emphasising he wants ***** RE ***** make it?

We&#039;re great because we didn&#039;t go the European way. We&#039;re great because we explicitly REJECTED European ways. Europe is in its last throws, WW-I has started a process which has resulted in a culture that is on the road to Cultural and Demographic Suicide.

America must not be remade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK paper, Telegraph, has a Foreign Correspondent Blog. They have two reporters in America who contribute to it. They&#8217;re totally in the bag for Obama.</p>
<p>In this thread: </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/trailmix/june08/mccainwomen.htm" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/trailmix/june08/mccainwomen.htm</a></p>
<p>I have made the following comments..</p>
<p>I was reading a Mark Steyn article about Obama .. and I think this part distills this election down to its essense. Here he is talking about Obama&#8217;s speech after the last primary:</p>
<p>BEGIN QUOTE<br />
By the time he wrapped up his &#8220;victory&#8221; speech last week, the great gaseous uplift had his final paragraphs floating in delirious hallucination along the Milky Way: </p>
<p>&#8220;I face this challenge with profound humility and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people â€¦ . I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal â€¦ . This was the moment â€“ this was the time â€“ when we came together to remake this great nation.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing he&#8217;s facing it with &#8220;profound humility,&#8221; isn&#8217;t it? Because otherwise who knows what he&#8217;d be saying. But mark it in your calendars: June 3, 2008 â€“ the long-awaited day, after 232 years, that America began to provide care for the sick. Just a small test program: 47 attendees of the Obama speech were taken to hospital and treated for nausea. </p>
<p>Everyone else came away thrilled that the Obamessiah was going to heal the planet and reverse the rise of the oceans: When Barack wants to walk on the water, he doesn&#8217;t want to have to use a stepladder to get up on it. There are generally two reactions to this kind of policy proposal. The first was exemplified by the Atlantic Monthly&#8217;s Marc Ambinder: </p>
<p>&#8220;What a different emotional register from John McCain&#8217;s; Obama seems on the verge of tears; the enormous crowd in the Xcel Center seems ready to lift Obama on its shoulders; the much smaller audience for McCain&#8217;s speech interrupted his remarks with stilted cheers.&#8221; </p>
<p>The second reaction boils down to: &#8220;&#8216;Heal the planet&#8217;? Is this guy nuts?&#8221; To be honest I prefer a republic whose citizenry can muster no greater enthusiasm for their candidate than &#8220;stilted cheers&#8221; to one in which the crowd wants to hoist the nominee onto their shoulders for promising to lower ocean levels within his first term. As for coming together &#8220;to remake this great nation,&#8221; if it&#8217;s so great, why do we have to remake it? A few months back, just after the New Hampshire primary, a Canadian reader of mine â€“ John Gross of Quebec â€“ sent me an all-purpose stump speech for the 2008 campaign: </p>
<p>&#8220;My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you&#8217;ll join with me as we try to change it.&#8221;<br />
END QUOTE</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the &#8220;Is this guy nuts&#8221; category. It&#8217;s amazing to me how reporters are being struck down in awe and adoration for Obama. I think to myself.. just how gullible are these people that they&#8217;re falling for this charalton.</p>
<p>Use your brains people.. how could someone whose entire political history consists of associating with Nation of Islam, Marxists, Far Left Terrorists, the most corrupt politicians in Chicago/Cook County/State of Illinois, Communists, Pro-HAMAS Palestinians, Black Liberation Theology (fusion of mutant Christianity and Latin American Marxism)/Deranged Catholic Priests</p>
<p>and think this guy has been Mr. Hope and Change!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re being manipulated by masters of PR. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re lapping it up.</p>
<p>If the United States is great now.. why does Obama keep emphasising he wants ***** RE ***** make it?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re great because we didn&#8217;t go the European way. We&#8217;re great because we explicitly REJECTED European ways. Europe is in its last throws, WW-I has started a process which has resulted in a culture that is on the road to Cultural and Demographic Suicide.</p>
<p>America must not be remade.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add &quot;As long as you&#039;re honest&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add &#8220;As long as you&#8217;re honest&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;this isnâ€™t something iâ€™m wanting to debate in Danâ€™s platform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t worry so much. Much to his chagrin, we always wander off topic. Besides, we&#039;re curious about your POV. Since your comments weren&#039;t drive-by shootings, as you see in #6, we&#039;re intrigued and more inclined to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>this isnâ€™t something iâ€™m wanting to debate in Danâ€™s platform.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry so much. Much to his chagrin, we always wander off topic. Besides, we&#8217;re curious about your POV. Since your comments weren&#8217;t drive-by shootings, as you see in #6, we&#8217;re intrigued and more inclined to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve a few buds in the UK who are liberals not so odd in socialist Europe. But when we discuss Iran for example, they both want to know what America is waiting for. They want us to act and take out whatever nuclear crap Iran is working on. I try to explain that Americans are tired of all the carping about whatever action we do take. Now they disagree about Iraq, but say the rest of the world needs the USA to take action when no one else will. How cozzy eh?  I try to dismiss the critics in Canada and other safe warm places. Most have little or no armed forces of their own thus no defense expenditures. They know or assume that if any crap hits the fan, the nice Americans will come pull their onions out of the fire. So any criticism of the USA needs to be taken with a grain of salt. American leftists are giddy when anyone criticizes our country. They&#039;d rather the whole world was neutral and average. No excellence, no trophies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve a few buds in the UK who are liberals not so odd in socialist Europe. But when we discuss Iran for example, they both want to know what America is waiting for. They want us to act and take out whatever nuclear crap Iran is working on. I try to explain that Americans are tired of all the carping about whatever action we do take. Now they disagree about Iraq, but say the rest of the world needs the USA to take action when no one else will. How cozzy eh?  I try to dismiss the critics in Canada and other safe warm places. Most have little or no armed forces of their own thus no defense expenditures. They know or assume that if any crap hits the fan, the nice Americans will come pull their onions out of the fire. So any criticism of the USA needs to be taken with a grain of salt. American leftists are giddy when anyone criticizes our country. They&#8217;d rather the whole world was neutral and average. No excellence, no trophies.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best observation of the Bush haters is that they are uneducated. They don&#039;t know about Lincoln&#039;s efforts to win the civil war and what he had to do to critics, supreme court justices etc. They are uneducated about America 100 years ago, about what it took to win WW2, they don&#039;t know about Jimmy Carter&#039;s Administration and that was just 30 years ago. If a President isn&#039;t a Democrat they feel he or she is illegitimate. They can&#039;t explain the Electorial College  it&#039;s creation and it&#039;s reason for being. They think we live in a democracy. They&#039;ve no clue as to why that would be a horrible system of govenment. They are uneducated, ignorant and maybe worse yet not curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best observation of the Bush haters is that they are uneducated. They don&#8217;t know about Lincoln&#8217;s efforts to win the civil war and what he had to do to critics, supreme court justices etc. They are uneducated about America 100 years ago, about what it took to win WW2, they don&#8217;t know about Jimmy Carter&#8217;s Administration and that was just 30 years ago. If a President isn&#8217;t a Democrat they feel he or she is illegitimate. They can&#8217;t explain the Electorial College  it&#8217;s creation and it&#8217;s reason for being. They think we live in a democracy. They&#8217;ve no clue as to why that would be a horrible system of govenment. They are uneducated, ignorant and maybe worse yet not curious.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, as long as you are open to being reflective, perhaps you could reread what you wrote (#11) and clarify your source:&lt;blockquote&gt; Maybe in America you could get away with saying it is less than half of the population (and that is more and more not the case), but i donâ€™t see how you can classify the majority of people around the globe as fringe. Frankly, MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american politics has acted in the last 8 years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You are telling us that a majority of the population of the world &quot;hate him (Bush) personally.&quot; Really?!!!

Then you state the &quot;fact&quot; that &quot;MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american (sic) politics has acted in the past 8 years.&quot; MOST would be a large majority. Now, this might be your opinion, based on who knows what reasoning, but I know you can not produce the data to prove your statement of &quot;fact.&quot;

Calming down the rhetoric is a good start. I appreciate your effort. But radical projection is just as foolish. Perhaps you might work on that, also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, as long as you are open to being reflective, perhaps you could reread what you wrote (#11) and clarify your source:<br />
<blockquote> Maybe in America you could get away with saying it is less than half of the population (and that is more and more not the case), but i donâ€™t see how you can classify the majority of people around the globe as fringe. Frankly, MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american politics has acted in the last 8 years.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are telling us that a majority of the population of the world &#8220;hate him (Bush) personally.&#8221; Really?!!!</p>
<p>Then you state the &#8220;fact&#8221; that &#8220;MOST of the world is scared to death by the way all of american (sic) politics has acted in the past 8 years.&#8221; MOST would be a large majority. Now, this might be your opinion, based on who knows what reasoning, but I know you can not produce the data to prove your statement of &#8220;fact.&#8221;</p>
<p>Calming down the rhetoric is a good start. I appreciate your effort. But radical projection is just as foolish. Perhaps you might work on that, also.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david, this could be a thought to help you get started. ;-)
- Non-violence as a principle would be when someone *really* wants violence in the world to go down, and hence, appreciates and supports those who protect the good from the violence of the evil.
- Non-violence as a mere strategy would be when someone wants their political party to gain power, and hence, &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/28/murtha-will-have-to-testify-in-defamation-case/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maligns and slanders&lt;/a&gt; those who protect the good from the violence of the evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david, this could be a thought to help you get started. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- Non-violence as a principle would be when someone *really* wants violence in the world to go down, and hence, appreciates and supports those who protect the good from the violence of the evil.<br />
- Non-violence as a mere strategy would be when someone wants their political party to gain power, and hence, <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/28/murtha-will-have-to-testify-in-defamation-case/" rel="nofollow">maligns and slanders</a> those who protect the good from the violence of the evil.</p>
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