Perhaps men are more prone to extramarital sex. Or maybe they are just more likely to admit doing so to pollsters and researchers.

So, NDT, you excuse bad heterosexual behavior, because most of them, perhaps at some point, can procreate.

Sorry, it’s a valid question regardless of a couples’ ability to procreate.

My wife and I met in college. She was the first woman I ever had sex with. We lived together for a little over five years, suring which time our oldest son, now 42, was born. Forty years ago we were married. I am 67 years old and she is still the only woman I’ve slept with; more importantly, she’s the only woman I’ve ever wanted to sleep with.

I don’t know whether our two older sons, Travis and Ted, and daughter, Tara, were in any intimate relations prior to their marrages but I am very confident that all three have been faithful to their spouses.

Our son, Trace Jr., who’s 27, is the lovable pig I mentioned. He keeps trying to find a woman with whom he can get serious but I keep reminding him that that will require some thought about a woman’s intelligence and personality. Since he was about 15 or 16 his only concern has been how big a girl’s boobs are and how fast she can get her clothes off. Trace’s best buddy loves to tell the story of a night he and Trace and Trace’s main squeeze at the time went to a local pub. The best buddy was assigned to keep TRace’s main squeeze occupied while Trace took a gal he’d met out to the parking lot for a quick romp in her car. I am not proud of that offspring at this point in his life (‘tho he is very serious about his job with the family firm).

Our twins, Taylor and Tyler, are 22-year-old twins who just were graduated from college. Both are gay. Tyler tells me he is still a virgin, that he has yet to be in a friendship where he has felt comfortable evolving to a sexual relationship. And I’ve encouraged him to wait for that special young man who’s certain to come along someday. Taylor is not a virgin. I’ve learned that he had some flings while in boarding school when he learned that a lot of guys in his dorm, gay or not, were willing to experiment or “just mess around”. He settled down in college and at his graduation we met a really beautiful (not just looks) youg man with whom Taylor has had a relationship for three years. He is spending the summer with us at our farm and my wife and I are hopeful Taylor has found his life partner (and that California voters reject the proposed constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage).

Actually, this is what you said:

Despite our best efforts to remain upbeat, my husband and I sometimes become discouraged at the number of people (including other gays and lesbians) bent on denying stability to us and our children all in the name of “doing what is best for society.”

You cannot deny what someone already has. Obviously, you have no stability without government intervention.

The requirements for marriage should be the same so that all persons have equal freedom.

Then in that case, you should demand the abolishment of age limits, blood relation limits, and number of people involved so that everyone can have absolute freedom to marry whomever or whatever they wish.

After all, you wouldn’t want to restrict freedom, now would you?

If heterosexuals get to have that choice, then why can’t gays and lesbians?

When gay and lesbian people can produce children by having sex with each other, than that will be a valid question. But until then, the answer is that there are stark differences in terms of biological and sociological impact between homosexual and heterosexual couples, and therefore society is perfectly justified in treating them differently.

I said that acknowledgement of our marriage from the State would add to our stability. Adding to stability indicates that stability is already present.

I would be happy to require that heterosexual couples be monogamous, but since the State does not require them to do so, there is no rationality in asking homosexual couples to do. The requirements for marriage should be the same so that all persons have equal freedom.

Heterosexual couples can choose to be non-monogamous and still get married (I know some that fit this description). If heterosexuals get to have that choice, then why can’t gays and lesbians?

Furthermore, given that you oppose requiring married couples to be monogamous and insist that promiscuity is just as valid of a choice as monogamy if a couple wants to be promiscuous, isn’t it more than a bit hypocritical for you to suddenly be criticizing promiscuous behavior?

Nowadays the mantra is: “Whoever has the most toys wins!” We are constantly assaulted by a culture that screams “Buy this” and “Buy that” while the more needful implorings of “Nurture this person” and “Care for that one” go unheeded. Despite our best efforts to remain upbeat, my husband and I sometimes become discouraged at the number of people (including other gays and lesbians) bent on denying stability to us and our children all in the name of “doing what is best for society.”

It brings up to me the fact that we have embraced liberation to the point of being libertine; throwing out self-restraint and losing the striving to be a better creature than the mere animals that walk on 4 legs.

I’m always suspicious of those who claim we are simply naked apes.
I read somewhere that although they have been trying to teach apes for years how to be more ‘intelligent and human’ they are no more attuned to humans than a dog. A Dog is actually more trainable. On the other hand, if we took a child from that stone age tribe in Brazil and raised him in a city, with all the education and trappings of modern life – that child would adapt and become a fully integrated modern man.

Being human means controlling our impulses, and most are capable of doing so. It’s sad that our culture is celebrating and trying to force us into what we never were – animals.

Well, let’s see; Bill Clinton has only one, but the universal consensus is that he’s a pig.

jimmy: Hello Laverne, Hello Shirley.

Of course nature (or nature’s God?) has also allowed us to study and understand our “biology” – so maybe humans shouldn’t just use “nature” as an excuse.

As Oscar Wilde said: We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

But damn, when I look at Cheyenne Jackson… that biological instinct is hard to fight!