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John McCain Meets with Log Cabin Republicans President

GayPatriot has exclusively learned that presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Senator John McCain held a personal meeting with the head of the national gay Republicans organization, the Log Cabin Republicans.   Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed his meeting with Senator McCain earlier today.

A source with close ties to the Log Cabin Board of Directors provided information about the meeting to GayPatriot earlier this week.  This source disclosed that the Log Cabin meeting was not reflected on Senator McCain’s published schedule in advance and the meeting.  A second source familiar with the Log Cabin-McCain meeting reports that Senator McCain has routine personal meetings that are not shown on the Senator’s public schedule.  

The specific timeframe of the Sammon-McCain meeting is not completely clear, but appears to have taken place within the past couple weeks or so.

Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed the meeting with Senator McCain in email correspondence with GayPatriot earlier today:

“We’ve had a series of productive meetings with the campaign since Sen. McCain won the nomination—including a recent meeting with the Senator.  We expect to have more conversations with the campaign as we head toward November.” — Patrick Sammon, Log Cabin Republicans President — June 25, 2008

Based on published news reports, the meeting with Senator McCain would be the first between any national-level gay Republicans and a Republican Presidental nominee since “The Texas 12″ met with then-Governor George W. Bush in 2000.  Since his first election to the White House, President Bush has never met with anyone representing Log Cabin Republicans or any other American gay organizations.

Again, according to published news reports the Sammon-McCain meeting would be the first face-to-face dialogue between a Republican Presidential standardbearer and the President of the national Log Cabin Republicans organization since the check-refund controversy between LCR and the Dole Campaign in 1995.

There will be more details on this story to follow….

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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134 Comments

  1. So we still don’t know if there was a “meeting of the minds”….

    Comment by Jim S — June 25, 2008 @ 5:25 pm - June 25, 2008

  2. Uh, so why is he hiding the meeting from Rev. Dobson?

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Dept_of_private_meetings.html

    Comment by David — June 25, 2008 @ 5:35 pm - June 25, 2008

  3. I’m not too surprised that McCain would meet with Log Cabin Republicans off line. He needs votes wherever he can find them. However I find it disappointing that he is meeting with them “in the closet” and is unwilling to be public about his courting of a constituency that potentially could support him.

    My vote is with Obama.

    Comment by Paul — June 25, 2008 @ 6:06 pm - June 25, 2008

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  5. [...] Unconfirmed as yet by the campaign, but the LCRs say it’s so: A source with close ties to the Log Cabin Board of Directors provided information about the meeting to GayPatriot earlier this week. This source disclosed that the Log Cabin meeting was not reflected on Senator McCain’s published schedule in advance and the meeting… [...]

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  7. Wow!! Matbe Obama should have secret meetings with Muslims.

    Comment by Jackie — June 25, 2008 @ 7:47 pm - June 25, 2008

  8. [...] Gay Patriot has the scoop: GayPatriot has exclusively learned that presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Senator John McCain held a personal meeting with the head of the national gay Republicans organization, the Log Cabin Republicans. Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed his meeting with Senator McCain earlier today. [...]

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  9. This is good news for “liberal” Republicans like me but I can hear the howls from the evangelicals already: “Didn’t LCR endorse Kerry?”

    Comment by Patrick Joubert Conlon — June 25, 2008 @ 8:16 pm - June 25, 2008

  10. The term “Gay Republican” is an oxymoron.
    The GOP does not want gays, bans us from the convention and campaigns against gays in order to win over the christian right.
    To me, a gay republican is akin to a Jewish Nazi in WWII

    Comment by Bob North Smithfield RI — June 25, 2008 @ 8:37 pm - June 25, 2008

  11. I can’t wait until this hits Free Republic. I’m sure then we’ll see the tolerant, big-tent side of the Republicans we’ve been talking so much about the last few days.

    Comment by torrentprime — June 25, 2008 @ 8:45 pm - June 25, 2008

  12. Yes, I agree. Let’s get this news out to as many Republicans as possible. I’m sure they’ll be overjoyed with this outreach. It is, after all, an inclusive, “big-tent”, party. :)

    Comment by David — June 25, 2008 @ 8:46 pm - June 25, 2008

  13. Gay + Republican = A very confused person.

    Comment by Fred — June 25, 2008 @ 8:51 pm - June 25, 2008

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  15. Wow. The Republican candidate met with a gay person.
    This is breaking news in 2008.

    Comment by JKris — June 25, 2008 @ 9:05 pm - June 25, 2008

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  17. And these meetings went SOOOO well that nobody knows about them? Interesting that Patrick Sammon has not said one word good or bad regarding these meetings. Which in republican world, that means the meetings went poorly (never speak ill of another republican). Lets hope they went well substanatively, and not the 2000 Bush “he is secretly pro-gay”. We already know McCain is against gays in the military and marriage. So how well these meetings went does not look good

    Comment by FormerRepublican — June 25, 2008 @ 9:12 pm - June 25, 2008

  18. I doubt that Mr. McCain will do anything to improve the lives of gay people if he is nominated and elected.

    Comment by devon — June 25, 2008 @ 9:15 pm - June 25, 2008

  19. John, once this hits the mainstream news, you will lose any conservative base you had (not that you had much). I support gay rights, but you know the Republicans don’t. The only votes you’ll get are Mark Foley and Larry Craig.

    Comment by Neil — June 25, 2008 @ 9:17 pm - June 25, 2008

  20. Why am I sensing such anger and resentment from you guys. Are you scared that more Gays are leaving the reservation?

    Comment by Leah — June 25, 2008 @ 9:20 pm - June 25, 2008

  21. Wow! Maybe the Log Cabin Republicans can get together and enter into “contracts” between gay partners like John McCain suggested on the ELLEN show. Bet you can hardly wait to participate in this “equal democracy” that John McBush is offering gay Americans. I’m sure you wait with baited breath. Right?

    Comment by Dana Terrill — June 25, 2008 @ 9:20 pm - June 25, 2008

  22. I don’t understand why the pres. of the Log Cabin even agreed to these terms of meeting. It’s humiliating. Here he is, happy to take money, but he won’t meet him in public, or even acknowledge there was a meeting?

    This is 2008. Is this REALLY the country you want, where a candidate hides his meeting with a prominent gay leader? What’s he afraid of?

    Comment by hurraha — June 25, 2008 @ 9:29 pm - June 25, 2008

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  24. Poor McCain…..He likes to be on both sides of every issue

    energy: last week, he wants to drill offshore / This week, he wants to combat global climate change with a prize for a more efficient batter for an electric car…

    WAR: waffled on the use of waterboarding / thinks habeus corpus is not a right to the detainees of Guantanamo Bay

    Gay Marriage: does not think gay marriage should be legal / but will meet in “secret” to get the gay vote

    Obama has made quite a few speeches that states the GLTB society as our “brothers and sisters”

    Vote Equality, Vote Obama

    Comment by Oregon4Obama — June 25, 2008 @ 9:35 pm - June 25, 2008

  25. Obama opposes gay marriage, too.

    This is why Republicans see no need to court gay votes. You “people” will spit in their faces no matter what they do.

    Comment by Attmay — June 25, 2008 @ 10:16 pm - June 25, 2008

  26. Lefties cannot tolerate anyone who refuses to be a victim in one of their victim groups.

    That’s why they hate folks like Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, and us.

    Comment by Vince P — June 25, 2008 @ 10:16 pm - June 25, 2008

  27. google “defend marriage”–the mccain website comes up in the sponsored links section–that’s how pro-gay mccain is

    Comment by jason — June 25, 2008 @ 10:26 pm - June 25, 2008

  28. [...] From Gay Patriot: …presumptive Republican Presidential nominee Senator John McCain held a personal meeting with the head of the national gay Republicans organization, the Log Cabin Republicans.   Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed his meeting with Senator McCain earlier today. [...]

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  29. And you want to talk about Nazis, what do you call someone who made racist remarks about his grandma, wants to sacrifice the Iraqi people to what could possibly be another Killing Fields-type situation and wants to rob the oil companies at gunpoint? And you should see some of the schmucks who are, or used to be, on his campaign. Jeremiah Wrong was the tip of the iceberg.

    The price of corn is going up; if a large agricultural firm like Archer Daniels Midland sees a windfall of profits from this, should they also have their windfall profits stolen by the government?

    Barry Dunham will be another big step towards an American socialist dictatorship.

    Comment by Attmay — June 25, 2008 @ 10:26 pm - June 25, 2008

  30. So what is McCain ashamed about meeting with gay people? Why no national coverage. Is the gay people a dirty little secret. Or, is it even deeper. Is McCain pandering again and don’t want the rest of the base to know. You know what. I have more respect for Obama shunning the muslim right now then I do for this undercover crap.

    Either support what you believe in publicly or shun it. Get real, this is not good news that we must continue hiding in the closet based off of who we support as the presidential hopeful. I want freedom not more of the same (don’t ask, don’t tell).

    Comment by chamay0 — June 25, 2008 @ 10:34 pm - June 25, 2008

  31. #27: A Google search is the best you can do? Pathetic. Let’s all forget Barack Obama’s anti-gay gospel singers on his tour.

    #26: The real Uncles Tom are rich Democrats. Why would THEY support for a party who hates THEM?

    Comment by Attmay — June 25, 2008 @ 10:39 pm - June 25, 2008

  32. Well, Well, I guess McCain will make sure that Gay Republicans and their families will get health care for existing illnesses and the civil rights granted to all American–I am sure he will make dam sure that gay marriage become the law of the land. GOOD LUCK. Anyone who votes for a republican deserves to lose all of their rights as an American. By the way I am sure he will make sure that you promise to fill the ranks of the brave and the dead in Iraq for your loyal support. I use to be supportive of the Gay community but no more. Gay Republicans have ruined it for all in the Gay community– Karl Rove, one of the most infamous gay republicans, have seen to that.

    Comment by Sims — June 25, 2008 @ 10:51 pm - June 25, 2008

  33. Do you really believe that Mccain cares about the Gay community for anything other than your vote and contributions. If you do you are fools. Get real. You wonder why he met with Sammon–follow the dollar. Sammon is the only one who will benefit from that meeting. If you lose with McCain you lose big.

    Comment by Sims — June 25, 2008 @ 10:57 pm - June 25, 2008

  34. 2008 Democrat Party Platform Gay Planks:

    1) Replace Don’t Ask Don’t Tell military policy with openly gay service.

    2) Enact legislation to legalize Gay Marriage throughout the United States and its territories.

    3) Enact Federal Hate Crimes legislation that specifically target crimes in which gays are the victim.

    There! Will the Democrat Party do all three? Two of the three? One of the three? None of the three? Mention any of the above as priorities? Cite any of the above as campaign issues? Hint around the edges? Speak in code? Wink?

    Oh, well, let’s bash the Republicans.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 25, 2008 @ 10:57 pm - June 25, 2008

  35. #31

    Maybe “rich Democrats” actually believe in using their money to try to bring some equality to America?

    Rich Republicans want it all for themselves.

    And Democrats support Gays, while Republicans hate us. It’s that simple. Only a self-loathing Gay person would vote Republican.

    Comment by Mark Koppel — June 25, 2008 @ 11:03 pm - June 25, 2008

  36. Heliotrope–I have taken note of your plateform. Your party has been in office the last 8 years what happen, why hasn’t these things gotten done. Bashing the Republicans? Looking at the results for the last 8 years you should be bashing the Republican party, instead you are still begging for a plateform of issues that won’t see the light of day. The Republican are even ashame to meet with your members in the light of day. Very sad. If you really want to do something for your party, help them fight their war and save the lives of those who love this county. Campaign for the Log Cabin Republican membership to Sign up for the military, Bush and McCain need your service, just don’t let anybody know you are gay make sure you keep that a secret.

    Comment by Sims — June 25, 2008 @ 11:10 pm - June 25, 2008

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  38. I thought I heard McCain say more than once that he did not support gay marriage. Maybe that meeting will cause him to change his mind–you think? Better still maybe he will divorce his wife and marry a gay male, that would be even better. He may have been gay all along and just realized it after the meeting.

    Comment by Sims — June 25, 2008 @ 11:48 pm - June 25, 2008

  39. I found out about this web site through a link from the Huffington Post. A web site for Gay People who want to be discriminated against! Why else would you vote for ANY Republican ?

    Comment by Alan Snipes — June 25, 2008 @ 11:58 pm - June 25, 2008

  40. The Log Cabin group are a bunch of ass kissers trying to be as ‘straight’ as possible. They are the gay version of an Uncle Tom. McCain is not for equality nor fairness. He will position himself to get votes. Period. The LC group and McCain should just go away into the night. Obama is not any better on this either. It is very sad, and embarrassing for this country to still hold onto this level of ignorance, intolerance and discrimination.

    Comment by Luca — June 26, 2008 @ 12:08 am - June 26, 2008

  41. WHAT MORON WOULD BE GAY AND REPUBLICAN… WHAT A PATHETIC GROUP OF CREEPS. WHO CARES WHAT THIS IDIOT MCCAIN THINKS. AND WHATS WORSE ARE ALL THOSE CREEPY GAY LOG CABIN PEOPLE.

    Comment by Michael Grace — June 26, 2008 @ 12:20 am - June 26, 2008

  42. Wow, they really are desperate. The GOP candidates never even acknowledge that there even ARE gay Republicans…

    Comment by Thomas Mc — June 26, 2008 @ 12:24 am - June 26, 2008

  43. If you guys love America so much, why don’t you join up with the armed–oh, wait. Never mind.

    Comment by Apikores — June 26, 2008 @ 1:01 am - June 26, 2008

  44. Wel, well, well. Why so secretative? Although 5 years in
    prison can be a very lonely time.

    Comment by Deborah — June 26, 2008 @ 1:32 am - June 26, 2008

  45. tap… tap-tap… tap, tap, tap….

    Comment by BobN — June 26, 2008 @ 2:09 am - June 26, 2008

  46. no big news – until mccain SAYS something that is more pro-gay then I still wont even consider giving him my vote

    Comment by blogger — June 26, 2008 @ 2:37 am - June 26, 2008

  47. #32:

    Another liberal fascist right here. Jonah Goldberg was right.

    Comment by Attmay — June 26, 2008 @ 3:35 am - June 26, 2008

  48. #40: The sad thing is that morons have this overwhelming need to try to pick fights at places where they know they’re out-armed. It is doubly sad that you feel the need to project this image you have conceived onto people without looking at the reality.

    Comment by Attmay — June 26, 2008 @ 3:39 am - June 26, 2008

  49. I found out about this web site through a link from the Huffington Post

    That explains where are these idiots are coming from.

    Comment by Vince P — June 26, 2008 @ 3:41 am - June 26, 2008

  50. #44: You mock a man’s POW service where he was subjected to real torture by your Communist ideological bedfellows, not the faux torture your kind bellyaches about?

    Leftists are monsters. I will do anything I can to keep them out of power.

    Comment by Attmay — June 26, 2008 @ 3:42 am - June 26, 2008

  51. #39: Ah, the Huffington Post. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, except perhaps the DailyKKKos, or Al-Qaeda.

    Find me one post by anyone here to the right of Stalin who says that we want to be discriminated against. I can’t wait for these fatuous yahoos to compare gay life today to being a black person in the South in the first half of the 20th century. Where are the separate drinking fountains?

    Comment by Attmay — June 26, 2008 @ 3:54 am - June 26, 2008

  52. Beauty, eh?
    Disconnected, hate-filled, angry liberals wasting space and oxygen. This is all very funny and here’s some of my faves:

    …Do you really believe that Mccain cares about the Gay community for anything other than your vote and contributions.

    …And Democrats support Gays, while Republicans hate us.

    …Your party has been in office the last 8 years what happen, why hasn’t these things gotten done.

    …He will position himself to get votes. Period.

    So what has Comrade Obama done, other than make purty wurds come out of his mouth? And what is our motivation for voting for democrats? What did we get from the last president? Oh yeah! Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act.

    “But both Obama and Hillary promissed to repeal those laws!” Yeah, but Congress has to do it first. They have both been in the Senate long enough. When did they ever lift a finger to do it?

    What’s more, so far as I can see from you guys, to become a democrat would be replacing bigotry from one side to the other. Not very inspiring.

    As far as “self-hatred” goes, how much self-respect does one who wallows in the mud sucking on Uncle Sugar’s tit and whining about their victimhood? You can whine about how nobody likes you and that you’re so put upon, or you can grow a pair, grab them and move on.

    The reality is that when you grow up, you don’t care what other people think. Some people don’t grow up and they continue to vote democrat and get shit on.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 26, 2008 @ 4:53 am - June 26, 2008

  53. The differences between McCain and Obama are minimal, when you consider that both believe big government can save you from yourself, and that we can save other nations from themselves as well. Given McCain’s track record of conciliatory dealings with Democrats, I fear what this man would do with a Democratic House and Senate. I will not play along with the game of lesser of two evils, as I believe that is part of what has plunged this nation into the mess we find ourselves today. I plan on voting for a man who believes gay marriage is a state and individual right.

    Please visit bobbarr2008.com and give liberty a voice in the Presidential debates and beyond.

    Comment by Andrew Cruise — June 26, 2008 @ 4:53 am - June 26, 2008

  54. Looks to me like many of the comments here are neither gay nor patriots.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about the politics of the meeting, all I care about was what was discussed???

    Comment by EthanQ — June 26, 2008 @ 4:59 am - June 26, 2008

  55. #54. If they’re coming from Huffandpuff Post, you’re right.

    Until such time as there is a public revelation about what transpired at that meeting, it’s all academic.

    Comment by Attmay — June 26, 2008 @ 5:03 am - June 26, 2008

  56. Ah, there really are gay republicans.

    Instead of supporting a party that loathes you and sitting at home (alone) feeling superior to those who really have a chance to change this country for the better, try something else.

    If you guys want to really manifest your self destructive streak, why don’t you demonstrate true patriotism and join the army? A tour in Iraq and the possibility of martydom would go a long way towards legitimizing your sad, pointless movement. Nothing else will, so why not try the cannon fodder idea and see what happens…

    Comment by MCOBill — June 26, 2008 @ 7:17 am - June 26, 2008

  57. I think gay Republicans should look back at that 2000 meeting with Bush and see it for what it was: a sham attempt to get their votes, and more importantly, their money.

    Since 2000, Bush has not made a single attempt at gay outreach, and instead focused his 2004 campaign on smearing gays and endorsing a Constitutional amendment to discriminate against gays.

    All the progress that gays have made over the past decade has come in opposition to Republicans, not because of them. If they think that John McCain will be any different, they are fooling themselves.

    Comment by AxelDC — June 26, 2008 @ 7:26 am - June 26, 2008

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  59. mcsame is pathetically pandering to log cabin. in the extremely rare event he’s elected, and if he has a chance to appoint a high court justice, then gays should be very worried. lawrence -v- tx is second to roe -v- wade in the extremists list of what to overturn.

    Comment by rightiswrong — June 26, 2008 @ 9:41 am - June 26, 2008

  60. How can ANY halfway cognizant person’s conscience allow him/her to vote Republican?

    Comment by Fuzzy — June 26, 2008 @ 10:36 am - June 26, 2008

  61. 56.

    “Instead of supporting a party that loathes you and sitting at home (alone) feeling superior to those who really have a chance to change this country for the better, try something else.”

    Bruce and Dan have, that’s why they’ve had this site, and why I enjoy reading here.

    As much as you might hate to admit it, in your squat and scoot, I get less grief from my ‘nilla friends about being in the D/s community than I get from my D/s friends about being conservative.

    As NDT pointed out, all you get from the Democrats is DOMA, DADT, Fear and marriage ammendments.

    We won’t have an ammendment defining marriage until DOMA is overridden by a liberal court. Then you’ll see it passed quickly, ratified quickly and bipartisanally.

    The (R)s will honestly say it’s to restrict the courts. The (DS)s will then point out the R’s are haters, trying to hide that they voted for it too.

    This is the way it’s always been.

    You can stick with the party of the Klan, the Black Panthers, the Weatherman, the SAS, and the haters.

    We’ll continue to work with the big tent, and work towards saving the country

    Comment by The Livewire — June 26, 2008 @ 10:45 am - June 26, 2008

  62. These Leftists are embarassingly monolithic , are they not?

    They all come on here, and then say the same exact thing. Do they think we’re as stupid as they are that we need to keep hearing the same cliche over and over as if we never heard it from them before?

    I expect nothing less from a group of cowards who defend the Islamists who strive to destroy everything the Left claims to stand for (but we know that is just words.. the only the Left wants is power).

    Why do I vote for Republicans? Because they stand for defending my most cherish gay right.. the right to live.

    Comment by Vince P — June 26, 2008 @ 1:32 pm - June 26, 2008

  63. Must have been a “Don’t ask, don’t tell” meeting.

    Comment by Ron B — June 26, 2008 @ 2:49 pm - June 26, 2008

  64. Hey, Vince, the “right to live” is not an exclusively gay right….of course, if you want to go back about 60 years then the extermination of gays was on the agenda of German right-wingers. You want to see boogymen, it ain’t Islamists, it’s the right-wing of the Republican party. And McCain is in bed with them when and where it counts for gays. Lefties will not only defend your “right to live”, they’ll defend your overall social rights. So, keep voting Republican if you like shooting yourself in the foot, but let’s not be disingenuous as to why you do it.

    Comment by Don — June 26, 2008 @ 2:51 pm - June 26, 2008

  65. Republicans want it both ways; with and with Gays! Many Congressional, WH and RNC staffers live the Gay lifestyle, but they are not spoken of unless they do something to be outed. The hypocrisy of the McCain political party is unending.

    Comment by Lou R — June 26, 2008 @ 3:08 pm - June 26, 2008

  66. why don’t you demonstrate true patriotism and join the army?

    Many have, despite your lord BJ’s bigoted efforts. What have you done to demonstrate true patriotism? Despite what you’ve been told, one hand on the mouse and the other in your shorts doesn’t count.

    All the progress that gays have made over the past decade has come in opposition to Republicans,

    Such as…..?

    The most anti-gay laws in the past decade have come from the liberals. All over the world, and most parts of America, folks would call that “regress” and not “progress”.

    But if you don’t think about it while the democrats suck your cock for cash, it’s easy to forget that, I guess.

    My question still remains: What’s my motivation for voting democrat?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 26, 2008 @ 3:32 pm - June 26, 2008

  67. I wouldn’t want it to actually happen, of course, but it would be poetic justice for these stupid gay Republicans to actually see McCain win. Then, McCain would appoint yet another conservative wingnut (or two) to the Supreme Court. Then, the new super-majority SCOTUS will invalidate every gay-friendly law in the land. Then, these silly gay conservatives will get fired from their jobs, get harassed, be kept away from their partners in hospitals, and have NO RECOURSE WHATSOEVER.

    Then I would laugh at them.

    It’s not just about the White House, people! It’s about the SCOTUS! Those sitting justices are getting old! We need to ensure that far-right wingnuts are not appointed!

    Comment by jonesey12 — June 26, 2008 @ 3:48 pm - June 26, 2008

  68. Gay Patriot? What is that? Does it mean that the person who started this website was in the military? I sure hope so. Otherwise, the illusion the Republicans have been perpetuating is alive and well with the LCRs.

    Me? I volunteered for the USMC when I was 17 and served my country until my honorable discharge in 1980. I was decorated three times with an Expert rifle range badge. Okay, I did NOT see combat. And boy am I glad I didn’t. But my point is that unless you were in the military and are gay, a ‘gay patriot’ website is a sham. A farce. An illusion. Just like virtually everything Republicans stand for today.

    John McCain does NOT get to define patriotism for me. I will define it. And it means GET OUT OF IRAQ. NOW.

    Comment by Mark — June 26, 2008 @ 4:23 pm - June 26, 2008

  69. Vince P: You are out of your mind if you think that.
    The left is the ONLY friend of Gay Americans!

    We support equal rights for ALL Americans!

    Obama has said that he “Personally” does not believe in Gay Marriage, but he would NOT refuse them the right to marry!

    Get your facts straight!

    Comment by Arliss — June 26, 2008 @ 4:31 pm - June 26, 2008

  70. Oooh! I found my inspiration:

    “I’m gonna rip them apart.” Fagan continued “I’m going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they’re 8 years old, they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep; when they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.”

    State Rep. James Fagan (D,MA) on Jessica’s Law

    I wanna be a democrat now! Add murderers like Kennedy and those making beaucoup cash from Abramoff, arrogant elitism, blind hatred of the military, champions for defeat etc. and sign me up!

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 26, 2008 @ 4:31 pm - June 26, 2008

  71. Forgot to mention that Fagan was speaking of young rape victims like the ones the SCOTUS just told to go to hell.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 26, 2008 @ 4:32 pm - June 26, 2008

  72. Attmay:
    You have a really twisted logic.

    First; the term Liberal Fascist is an Oxymoron, the two terms do not work together because of the VAST differences in ideology!

    Why am I wasting my time, your just going to bash me once I’m gone.
    What did a Liberal ever do to you for you to be so angry at them?
    Did they deny you any rights? NO
    Do they bash your sexuality at every chance they get? NO
    It really is sad that you have so much contempt for the people who want to give you the same rights as everyone else.
    But, I forgot, you DON’T want to be treated fairly.
    Perhaps you would warm up to us if we treat you bad?
    Well, I can’t do that, I don’t care if your a Republican or not, I will not DENY you any rights!
    It is against my ideology, no matter what you think our ideology is.
    Do you even know what Fascism is?
    It is when corporations control the Government.
    Sound familiar?
    Haliburton is running our country, NOT the Republicans!

    Comment by Arliss — June 26, 2008 @ 4:50 pm - June 26, 2008

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  74. John McCain Meets with Log Cabin Republicans…

    So McCain (R-Idiot) met with representatives of the gay Republican organization (a group whose politics makes about as much sense as the "National Association of Black KKK Members"), but he’s afraid that the religious reich may find out abou…

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  75. What a humorous thread this has been. Only 37,422 moronic “Jewish Nazi” remarks… points for originality! Boy, isn’t each gay lefty so thoughtful and unique! ;-)

    Wow!! Matbe Obama should have secret meetings with Muslims.

    Are you implying that McCain is gay? (Or rather, that he was at an earlier point in his life? Think about it…)

    Poor McCain…..He likes to be on both sides of every issue.
    Do you really believe that Mccain cares about the Gay community for anything other than your vote and contributions.
    How can ANY halfway cognizant person’s conscience allow him/her to vote Republican?

    A rash of typos! Clearly, these people should have said – because it would fit the facts so much better:

    Poor Obama…..He likes to be on both sides of every issue
    Do you really believe that Obama or any Democrat cares about the Gay community for anything other than your vote and contributions
    How can ANY halfway cognizant person’s conscience allow him/her to vote Democrat?

    And this:

    Anyone who votes for a republican deserves to lose all of their rights as an American.

    Isn’t it wonderful how an open call for fascism – the oppression of political opponents – brightens any discussion! As for this:

    Maybe “rich Democrats” actually believe in using their money to try to bring some equality to America? Rich Republicans want it all for themselves.

    Dearie, I’m afraid the issue is beyond your ken. But I’ll explain for others. Rich Democrats usually have no idea how they got rich – that is, no idea what it takes to run a business or actually create jobs. They just want Big Government to strangle change and innovation in the economy, via endless new regulations. Why? Because *that keeps them rich*. It keeps their trust funds on top, without them ever having to worry about dirty ol’ money. An old, sad story.

    WHAT MORON WOULD BE GAY AND REPUBLICAN

    Pot, meet kettle. Oops, sorry, maybe it will reach you better if I type it in all-caps. “POT, MEET KETTLE.”

    I plan on voting for a man who believes gay marriage is a state and individual right. Please visit bobbarr2008.com…

    Sure about that, cowboy? I mean, about Bob Barr’s views on homosexuality. Were you awake in the 1990s?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 26, 2008 @ 5:02 pm - June 26, 2008

  76. ThatGayConservative: Fagan is a State Rep from MA.

    He is NOT a member of the US Congress.

    Outside of MA, he has no standing, he is HARDLY the voice of the party!

    In fact he is suffering the contempt of his peers now and will probably not even be re-elected, he is being thrown out of the party.

    You can’t take one persons words against the whole party. That would be like me saying that all Republicans are like Tom Delay or Duke Cunningham or Larry Craig.
    I would be saying that ALL Republicans are CROOKS, but I know that is not the truth.

    Comment by Arliss — June 26, 2008 @ 5:04 pm - June 26, 2008

  77. ThatGayConservative: I also forgot to mention that your party throws YOU into the same category as that child rapist.

    Or did you forget about that?

    Comment by Arliss — June 26, 2008 @ 5:20 pm - June 26, 2008

  78. Perhaps if you knew why he did what he did you might understand.

    A Taunton lawmaker under fire for saying he would “rip apart” child rape victims on the witness stand and “make sure their lives are ruined” defended the comments yesterday as “hyperbole” designed to enlighten his colleagues.

    “It was not my intent to demean or offend any victims,” state Rep. James H. Fagan (D-Taunton) told the Herald. “I understand it was strong language, but it was meant to be a demonstration of what a bad place court can be.”

    Fagan, a defense attorney, infuriated victims’ rights groups with his fiery speech on the House floor against Jessica’s Law, which would set a mandatory 20-year sentence for child rapists. Fagan said his point was to show lawmakers that if the law was passed, defense attorneys would take every case to trial, rather than cut plea bargains, which would lead to more victims being traumatized in court.

    “I am opposed to mandatory minimum sentences,” Fagan said. “I think it offends the very foundation of the three separate branches of government and undermines the judiciary.”

    Among those outraged by Fagan’s comments is Mark Lunsford, whose daughter Jessica was raped and murdered by a serial perv in Florida, inspiring the law now in place in 42 states.

    “He doesn’t owe me an apology, and I don’t want him to think he does. What this guy is saying is true, a defense attorney will rip you apart,” Lunsford said yesterday at the State House, where he urged lawmakers to toughen child protection laws. “He just added insult to injury.”

    Lunsford said Fagan’s tirade on the House floor is even more shocking because it’s true.

    “The truth is a defense attorney will tear these children apart. That’s his job, but we have more of an obligation to people than to defense attorneys,” he said. “I won’t judge him because I don’t live here, but my grandmother always said to think before you speak.”

    Fagan is NOT a defense attorney, he was just speaking like how a defense attorney would attack the victim, which is absolutely true!

    Comment by Arliss — June 26, 2008 @ 5:33 pm - June 26, 2008

  79. Many of these visitors put me in mind of Anthony Burgess’ introduction of the 1986 edition of his classic “A Clockwork Orange” (1962) which he entitled “A Clockwork Orange Resucked.” Because of Kubrick’s film, he felt compelled to say something of Alex and his mates.

    Burgess said that a person is a “clockwork orange” when he can only perform good or evil. He is a clockwork toy, wound by God, Satan or the almighty state. He has the outward appearance of deep color and sensuous juice, but he is nothing more than an attractive automaton.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 26, 2008 @ 6:18 pm - June 26, 2008

  80. Lefties will not only defend your “right to live”, they’ll defend your overall social rights.

    Like this, I suppose?

    Sen. John Kerry said in an interview published yesterday that he would have voted for the gay-marriage ban passed overwhelmingly this week by Missouri voters.

    The Democratic presidential nominee, who spent parts of two days stumping across the state, told The Kansas City Star the ballot measure was the same as one his home state of Massachusetts passed a few years ago. Kerry supported that measure.

    Or this?

    HRC’s Hilary Rosen Gave $1,000 to Homo-hater Harold Ford Before He Lost Senate Bid

    So let’s seep; gay and lesbian Democrats openly support Democrat politicians who support state and Federal constitutional amendments that these same gay and lesbian Democrats claim strip gays of their “rights”.

    Me? I volunteered for the USMC when I was 17 and served my country until my honorable discharge in 1980. I was decorated three times with an Expert rifle range badge.

    And you support the Democrat Party, including its belief that US Marines are “uninvited and unwelcome intruders” and its endorsement and support of leftist groups who physically and verbally harass these Marines.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 26, 2008 @ 6:53 pm - June 26, 2008

  81. “Since his first election to the White House, President Bush has never met with anyone representing Log Cabin Republicans or any other American gay organizations.”

    You don’t say.

    Comment by jimmy — June 26, 2008 @ 8:23 pm - June 26, 2008

  82. Are we sure that a formal meeting even took place? What happened? Why was it not on Sen McCain’s schedule. Clearly this is a minefield for McCain. he can’t even meet with an openly gay person without drawing fire from a major bloc in his own party. Mostly, I want to know if anything productive came from the alleged meeting. Why is no one talking? What’s with all the secrecy. I’m rather appalled that in 2008 anyone is ashamed to admit to meeting with a major gay organization within his own party. But that is the GOP after all.

    Comment by Houndentenor — June 26, 2008 @ 8:24 pm - June 26, 2008

  83. I was going to give my reasons for being a Republican but all the folks ranting and raving about LCR and Gay Republicans are all the reasons I need.

    Gay Republicans and Conservatives are the ultimate rebels. Who else could take all the BS from both gays (mostly gays these days) and conservatives and still know they are both gay and conservative and not be a sell out, an Uncle Tom, A Jewish Nazi, Black Klansmans or whatever is dished out to them.

    Comment by LCRW — June 27, 2008 @ 12:19 am - June 27, 2008

  84. All of these left wing comments reminded me all too well why I’m a conservative. I’ve met, maybe five liberals in my life that didn’t act like a baby throwing a tantrum when people don’t agree with them.

    This is a sad, sad world.

    Comment by BeLinda — June 27, 2008 @ 1:30 am - June 27, 2008

  85. You have proven to me why I am a conservative and a Republican. Democrats have tried to take away my rights to defend myself via the use of arms (a rights gays had damn well better have, and use), the right to do with my money as I see fit without being robbed at gunpoint by the government (which is all taxation really is).

    By the way, the term “liberal” has nothing to do with the leftist/crypto-Stalinist ideology behind Der DemoKKKrat Partie of 2008.

    #65: Hitler was for gun control, which conservatives oppose. There are no GOP candidates who want to put gays in concentration camps. Nothing that Hitler believed has anything in common with the GOP of today. Hitler was a socialist through and through. In fact, Hitler would have made a great Muslim.

    Need I remind you of who said:

    “Anyone who votes for a republican deserves to lose all of their rights as an American.”

    You people are the real fascists. Heil Obama!

    Comment by Attmay — June 27, 2008 @ 6:21 am - June 27, 2008

  86. I would say that a Marine with a MARINE RIFLE EXPERT badge would not support the party that guts the military to the point they can’t afford bullets. What’s more, I can’t imagine a Marine would support a party that convicted his pards of “massacre” in the media.

    But mostly, I can’t imagine a Marine calling for U.S. surrender in shame “patriotic”.

    I therefore call bullshit.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 27, 2008 @ 7:31 am - June 27, 2008

  87. A Marine who supports the democrat party ranks right up there with Jewish Nazis and black Klansman. ;-)

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 27, 2008 @ 7:33 am - June 27, 2008

  88. Maybe “rich Democrats” actually believe in using their money to try to bring some equality to America? Rich Republicans want it all for themselves.

    And maybe I can invite you over for cheeseburgers made with green cheese from the moon.

    Caca de caballo. Taxation and charity are not the same thing. Furthermore, you have the right to do with your money as you see fit, which despots like you apparently do not believe.

    Comment by Attmay — June 27, 2008 @ 7:41 am - June 27, 2008

  89. I love these Lefties.. everything they don’t agree with is “hate”. And how do they act towards those things.. with the most personal and vindictive form of hate.

    No thanks. I’ll think for myself. I refuse to conform to the stereotype the Left wishes to impose on me.

    Comment by Vince P — June 27, 2008 @ 8:33 am - June 27, 2008

  90. Say Arliss, while you’re burying turds, can you excuse Rep. Delahunt’s comment to Mr. Addington yesterday? Or how about the al-Qaeda Times decision to print the name of the CIA employee who questioned KSM?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 27, 2008 @ 8:42 am - June 27, 2008

  91. Hate to burst your bubble, but the gutting of the military began under Reagan/Bush, or were you not around at that time.
    And after the First Gulf War is when Bush and Cheney realized how much money could be made off of War.

    Under Reagan they had started contracting out military services, but under the First Gulf War soldiers were still cooking their own food and purifying their own water.

    Reagan had ONLY contracted out non-essential military services, but after the First Gulf War G.H.W. Bush began to contract out essential military services.

    Now we see after another war that contracting out essential military services was a very bad idea.
    Haliburton’s neglect has caused almost 100 soldier deaths related to poor electrical wiring and bad water.

    Now, you despise all liberals, but I served this country in the military for 22 years. I fought and got wounded in the First Gulf War.
    You may not want to admit it but the basic ethos of all military branches are LIBERAL ideals.
    The ideal that a Unit is only as strong as it’s weakest member, so all other members of the unit must pick up the slack to make the unit whole.
    The ideal that you NEVER leave a man behind.

    These are all liberal ideals, the whole military is based on liberal ideals. Including the whole command structure.

    Now I made the entire post without calling anyone names, can you do the same?
    I am all for a lively debate, but do not want to be insulted.
    And just because I am a liberal are you going to just dismiss my 22 years of service to this country?

    Comment by Arliss — June 27, 2008 @ 10:04 am - June 27, 2008

  92. You are not a liberal, Arliss, you are a leftist. There is a huge difference.

    Comment by Attmay — June 27, 2008 @ 11:39 am - June 27, 2008

  93. Yo, Arliss:

    US Military Deaths 1992-2000 under US President Bill Clinton: 8,807
    US Military Deaths 2000-May 2008 under US President George W. Bush: 10,946

    Notice that Clinton was at peace. I forgot, did he turn around the outsourcing you blame on Bush I? Did he keep the evil Haliburton from the military door? Did he continue the gutting of the military you say Reagan started?

    How come GW Bush has fought an active war on two fronts, used Haliburton to the hilt and only managed to eke out just 2000 more military deaths than Bill Clinton?

    the basic ethos of all military branches are LIBERAL ideals

    Really? Please do write an essay on this breaking news. Please start with the liberal ethic of the War College. That should be a good platform for understanding the rest of your profundities.

    As a conservative, I am under the illusion that the military intent is to out arm the enemy, to out fight the enemy and to overwhelm the enemy. What essential part of the message of the great military leaders did I miss?

    Never leaving a man behind is a noble goal, but it hardly makes “the basic ethos of all military branches …. liberal ideals. In fact, unit cohesion might even be a fundamentally conservative concept.

    Certainly, you would not consider boot camp to be liberalism run amok, would you?

    As a 22 year veteran who was wounded (perhaps in combat) in the First Gulf War, where do you stand on non-military enemy combatants who are taken prisoner?

    Comment by heliotrope — June 27, 2008 @ 12:38 pm - June 27, 2008

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  95. Maybe “rich Democrats” actually believe in using their money to try to bring some equality to America? Rich Republicans want it all for themselves.

    Which is why, of course, rich Democrats spend their money in numerous attempts to punish and tax others, rather than simply giving their OWN money to the poor.

    Rich Republicans give directly to the poor and to charity, and work to LOWER taxes across the board on people and businesses, thus allowing people to keep more of their own money rather than having to give it to government.

    Leftist Obama screams about substandard housing — while himself living in a suburban mansion that he bought at a bargain price from one of those very slumlords he was complaining about. Furthermore, he was accepting campaign contributions from said slumlord — which was money being taken from the rents of those poor people Obama whimpers about and being spent on Obama rather than on upgrading and fixing their housing.

    The ideal that a Unit is only as strong as it’s weakest member, so all other members of the unit must pick up the slack to make the unit whole.

    So that the weakest one can go right on being weak?

    And that really is the ethos of liberalism — to demand that others support people who refuse to work, who refuse to educate themselves, who refuse to provide for the children they produce, and who demand that others who do be punished to pay for it.

    And just because I am a liberal are you going to just dismiss my 22 years of service to this country?

    No, it’s because you try to use your “22 years of service” as some sort of shield while you support and endorse the party, political ideology, and candidates that call those who do serve their country “uninvited and unwelcome intruders” and support their harassment and verbal abuse, including calling our troops “murderers” and “baby-killers”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 27, 2008 @ 1:06 pm - June 27, 2008

  96. There is a sense in which the U.S. military was founded on liberal ideals: on the *classical* liberal beliefs in individual rights and freedom that come from God, defense of the U.S. Constitution, and so forth.

    But as we know, modern liberals lean more toward ideals that are collectivist (socialist and/or fascist) in nature. Example: Arliss has just cited military centralization and strict chain-of-command as a LIBERAL IDEAL. It ain’t a classical liberal ideal, outside of a military context, that’s for damn sure. So Arliss’ claim would appear to be a wrong. But once you accept / notice that modern liberals are essentially Americanized fascists, Arliss’ claim is chillingly plausible.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 27, 2008 @ 1:19 pm - June 27, 2008

  97. P.S. As to the “22 years of service”:

    - Thank you for your service.

    - No, it does NOT make your political opinions better or more valid than anybody else’s. It’s still true that when you’re wrong, you’re wrong. Your political opinions still have to be based on facts, logic and pro-American ideals, in order to have validity. Kindly get to work.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 27, 2008 @ 1:24 pm - June 27, 2008

  98. Hate to burst your bubble, but the gutting of the military began under Reagan/Bush, or were you not around at that time.

    Hate to burts your bubble, but the streamlining of the military began under Reagan/Bush. They never once imagined cutting off the military’s balls and creating a PROPOSED surplus. Nor would they have told SF in the Mog to go screw themselves when they requested support and equipment. Nor would they have been “bomb happy” dropping ass loads of bombs everywhere without replenishing the stocks. Nor would they have fired missles at empty caves or aspirin factories. Nor would they have ignored the Patriot and Tomahawk missiles.

    I can go on, but you get the idea. Further, I know for a fact that you were taught honesty in the military, if not before. I hope that you haven’t forgotten.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 27, 2008 @ 2:27 pm - June 27, 2008

  99. More Democrat assholishness:

    During a contentious House hearing on harsh interrogation techniques for terror suspects Thursday, Rep. Bill Delahunt, D-Massachusetts, was pressing David Addington, the vice president’s chief of staff, about meetings he attended while serving as Cheney’s chief counsel.

    Delahunt asked repeatedly whether the topic of waterboarding, a controversial interrogation technique that simulates drowning, ever came up.

    Addington replied that he could not discuss that because “al Qaeda may watch C-SPAN.”

    “Right,” Delahunt responded. “Well, I’m sure they are watching, and I’m glad they finally have the chance to see you, Mr. Addington.”

    “Yeah, I’m sure you’re pleased,” Addington shot back.

    Comment by Vince P — June 27, 2008 @ 2:38 pm - June 27, 2008

  100. Dana Milbank in the WaPo (June, 27, 2008) reports the Delahunt exchange Vince references above as follows:

    Cheney’s Cheney continued to dole out the scorn (“You asked that question earlier, today, and I’ll give you the same answer.”) until Bill Delahunt (D-Mass.), the last questioner, inquired about waterboarding. “I can’t talk to you — al-Qaeda may watch these meetings,” Addington said.

    “I’m glad they finally have a chance to see you, Mr. Addinton,” Delahunt joked.

    “I’m sure you’re pleased,” Addington growed.

    Delahunt is trying to claim he said: “I’m glad they I finally have a chance to see you, Mr. Addington.”

    Dana Milbank and the Wapo, in spite of the many television clips showing the truth are reporting that Delahunt was JOKING.

    Here are the ways Dana Milbank of the WaPo reports Addington’s demeanor and tone: “hunched and scowling,” “Addington growled,” “he barked,” “he snarled,” “he had the grace of Gollum,” “Addington’s unbridled hostility was live and unfiltered,” “slouched in his chair,” “Addington dished out disdain,” “Addington’s insolence,” “Addington said reproachfully.”

    Nowhere does Dana Milbank of the WaPo explain that Addington was hauled under subpeona before Nadler, Conyers, Delahunt, Ellison, Schultz, Davis and Cohen to admit that he was responsible for: 1.) “being the man most responsible for building President Bush’s notion of an imperial presidency;” 2.) That the President could be justified in breaking the law; 3.) Not consulting Congress when interpreting torture laws; 4.) His failure to remember conversations about torture techniques; 5.) Whether he would (volunteer to) meet privately to discuss classified matters; 6.) whether he consulted lawmakers about anti-torture statutes (different from #3.)

    Here is a man who is being pushed into a baited perjury trap and he refuses to play the game. And then, the “good natured” Bill Delahunt “jokes” about his face becoming known to al-Qaeda.

    Thank God that the Washington Post and Dana Milbank get the joke. Too many of us sticks in the mud are thankful for a bit of “smack-down” from a David Addison.

    Congressional show trials are an ugly sight and they should be objectively aired and questioned for what they are. But that would require an honest press.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 27, 2008 @ 5:29 pm - June 27, 2008

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  102. I am a straight Republican, and I do oppose gay marriage and homosexuality as a matter of principle, but I don’t hold an antipathy toward gays on a personal level. Actually, I am pleased to see Senator McCain reaching out to this constituency, and I would like to see them be a more active subgroup in our party. I admire any gay person who has the courage to go so much against the grain as the Log Cabin Republicans. I’m sorry that our party doesn’t do more to include you.

    Comment by AJ — June 28, 2008 @ 1:10 am - June 28, 2008

  103. #101

    And the people should be asking why this Congress has been running constant show trials instead of doing the “will of the people” as promissed.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 28, 2008 @ 1:14 am - June 28, 2008

  104. I am glad for the meeting!

    I am going to the Gay pride in St Pete tomorrow. If I wear my McCain T-Shirt, I am sure I’ll be attacked verbally maybe even physically or maybe just an occasional drink spillage on me.

    Will I be protected by hate crime law? Or is it ok just for gay people to hate?

    Comment by EDinTampa — June 28, 2008 @ 3:45 am - June 28, 2008

  105. I guess McCain is the choice for self-hating closeted gay men.

    Comment by Pinky Bear — June 28, 2008 @ 5:35 am - June 28, 2008

  106. LCR Tampa Bay will be there, Ed. Might want to at least say howdy. 2300 block of W. Central Ave.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 28, 2008 @ 7:16 am - June 28, 2008

  107. EDinTampa says: “I am going to the Gay pride in St Pete tomorrow. If I wear my McCain T-Shirt, I am sure I’ll be attacked verbally maybe even physically or maybe just an occasional drink spillage on me.”

    Pinky Bear says: “I guess McCain is the choice for self-hating closeted gay men.”

    EDinTampa is going to Gay pride in St. Pete, Pinky Bear sees him as a self-hating closeted gay man.

    If EDinTampa goes to Gay pride in St. Pete and decides not to wear his McCain shirt, I see him as closeted by Pinky Bear and his pastel carnivore pals.

    I must admit, I would like to be the arresting officer taking names if Pinky Bear assaults EDinTampa. “OK, Pinky Bear, put you little paws behind your back.”

    Comment by heliotrope — June 28, 2008 @ 10:01 am - June 28, 2008

  108. So… heliotrope has a thing for role-playing. ;-)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 28, 2008 @ 10:09 am - June 28, 2008

  109. You know, there is plenty of asinine crazy on both sides. We have the nutzo far left people screeching about gay Republicans:

    The term “Gay Republican” is an oxymoron.
    The GOP does not want gays, bans us from the convention and campaigns against gays in order to win over the christian right.
    To me, a gay republican is akin to a Jewish Nazi in WWII

    And we have the gay Republican(s) responding in an equally ridiculous manner:

    The reality is that when you grow up, you don’t care what other people think. Some people don’t grow up and they continue to vote democrat and get shit on.

    You know, there on people on both sides with points. Just not these people and those making similar statements.

    It’s fair to criticize Obama about his public association with an anti-gay gospel singer. And it would be fair to criticize him about not supporting marriage. As for McCain, “I doubt that Mr. McCain will do anything to improve the lives of gay people if he is nominated and elected,” is a fair statement to make. It’s not an attack against the people here, just a statement of beliefs. I mean, I’m torn about who to vote for (the answer right now is “Bob Barr”). The biggest hangup with McCain is the position he takes on LGBT issues. I mean, he doesn’t even support military service, as he’s said publicly. And if Obama has anti-gay associations, then McCain has even more.

    However, I don’t want to vote for Obama, as I disagree with his economic and domestic positions and I’m really hit or miss with his foreign policy. LGBT supportiveness alone isn’t enough to win me over, just as lack of LGBT support isn’t enough to make me not vote for someone. However, direct antipathy, that is sufficient cause for lack of support.

    Also, I found this quote fun.

    The sad thing is that morons have this overwhelming need to try to pick fights at places where they know they’re out-armed. It is doubly sad that you feel the need to project this image you have conceived onto people without looking at the reality.

    Not because I disagree (well, I disagree with labeling EVERYONE who disagrees with you a “moron”, but some people deserve it). But because that last sentence reminds me of what NDT always does just about every time I make any kind of statement on this site.

    Comment by PSUdain — June 28, 2008 @ 1:57 pm - June 28, 2008

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  111. Dear Heliotrope, I am sure in your fevered fantasies you would love to be assaulted by me. Unlike Republicans, who see violence as an answer for any solution, I do not. If you do get assaulted, I am sure it will be by someone who is of the conservative right, who considers himself an evangelical. After all, you are the one who want to “bear” arms under the Second Amendment to defend yourself from a gay bashing. You see yourself as shooting people. I wish you guys who are so gung ho on the Second Amendment would go over to Iraq and show us how tough you are. I am sure you’d have no trouble proving your machismo on the field of battle.

    P.S. I would love to have seen Larry Craig being hauled out in handcuffs from the Men’s Room after flashing his little Congress Card thinking it was a Get Out Of Jail Free Card. LOL!

    Love and kisses!

    Comment by Pinky Bear — June 28, 2008 @ 3:08 pm - June 28, 2008

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  113. Right on Pinky Bear! You are calling out these hypocrites the way they should be called out. No person is perfect but I am sick and tired of people saying they don’t like McSame but they don’t like Obama either. NEWSFLASH: You will only have one or the other to chose from on election day so PICK A SIDE! After 7 years of failed Bush policies and actions that amount to treason, any vote cast for John McSame in my opinion will be cast by a MORON!

    Comment by UrbanAddictiondotcom — June 28, 2008 @ 3:53 pm - June 28, 2008

  114. #112: Nice one, there. heliotrope is not gay.

    #110: What else do you call absurd fantasies about Jewish Nazis and black Klansmen besides transference of make-believe onto a reality they refuse to look at? They find it easier to caricature, vilify, and draw false equivalences than actually listen. So excuse me for not playing their idiotic games.

    Comment by Attmay — June 28, 2008 @ 4:31 pm - June 28, 2008

  115. #113: Darn Attmay, you have outed me!

    Comment by heliotrope — June 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm - June 28, 2008

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  117. Hmmmm – typical republican patriarchal. Private meetings behind closed doors rather than facing the constituency and being upfront about your stances. Sadly, McCain has been both – upfront enough that if your willing to sell out your equality for a 10% tax cut and 4 more years in Iraq… and the most financially irresponsible borrow / spend party in US history… enjoy. Whatever happened to tax and spend democrats? When did the Repub’s take over that banner?

    Comment by tommyz — June 28, 2008 @ 8:34 pm - June 28, 2008

  118. Well, I went to Pride Fest in St Pete, wore my McCain shirt and didn’t get assaulted, only got a few glares. The friends of my friends gave me a snub but that’s ok, they looked ridiculous anyway. Guess I didn’t stay long enough for the drunkards to show their ignorance.

    The fest itself reminded me of why I haven’t gone to such an event in years but it also reminded me of just how much I love freedom.

    I did stop at LCR and chatted with the like minded. The morning was pleasant, hot & sticky, but pleasant overall.

    Comment by EDinTampa — June 28, 2008 @ 9:12 pm - June 28, 2008

  119. Gee, Ed, you must have been so disappointed. You know gay people are a tolerant bunch.

    Comment by Pinky Bear — June 28, 2008 @ 11:01 pm - June 28, 2008

  120. NEWSFLASH: You will only have one or the other to chose from on election day so PICK A SIDE!

    False choice. If I really don’t like either candidate, I’ll vote third party, possibly Libertarian. A protest vote is not wasted.

    I’m not “picking sides” or anything else so immature and fatuous. This is an election not a sporting event, and I don’t have to be all “rah rah rah!” for either side. When it comes down to it, I will pick whichever candidate I feel aligns most closely with my views. It is unlikely to be Obama. It could have been McCain, but it’s looking less so each day.

    Comment by PSUdain — June 28, 2008 @ 11:03 pm - June 28, 2008

  121. Dear PSU,

    If only there were really a third choice. There isn’t. The American Political System is binary, with the illusion of there being choice. In truth, Politics is a game for whatever is left of the Middle Class. If you’re rich, you can do whatever you want. If you are poor, no one cares. If you are Middle Class, you have a lot of Plutarchs pretending they care about you and then end up screwing you in some compromise. The whole political system is a ploy to take the reins off of the Cooperation and allow them to make as much money as possible while they can.

    Bu$hCo will make sure it bleeds the American People dry for the sake of Oil. It has no interest in doing anything but make token tax cuts for the middle class while sucking the money from those tax cuts through commodities like oil, flour, other foods and materials.

    The whole Economic Spending package was just a way of throwing bread to the mobs of Roma. It will encourage people to spend and ignore their real problems. So many people have already had their Stimulus Money gobbled up by gas prices and the rising cost of food.

    Wrap it all up in the American Flag and with the Cross of Jesus, you can hoodwink the rubes of America to allowing you do whatever you want to them.

    Comment by Pinky Bear — June 29, 2008 @ 2:26 am - June 29, 2008

  122. And we have the gay Republican(s) responding in an equally ridiculous manner:

    The reality is that when you grow up, you don’t care what other people think. Some people don’t grow up and they continue to vote democrat and get shit on.

    Oh please share with us how that is “ridiculous”.

    Unlike Republicans, who see violence as an answer for any solution, I do not.

    For example….???? If you mean as opposed to grabbing our ankles for the sorry SOBs who gave us such greats as the first WTC attacks, the Kenya & Tanzania bombings, the USS Cole attack, 9/11 etc. If that’s the case, you can bet you’re sweet ass we prefer “violence” as opposed to running out to the microphones and faking a few tears.

    Whatever happened to tax and spend democrats?

    Well, the current version goes by Barack HUSSEIN Obama and the current failured in congress who support rolling back the Bush Tax Cuts which have resulted in record revenues to the Treasury. $1 TRILLION plus in new spending with ZERO justification and ZERO plans to pay for it, other than screwing over Americans with higher taxes, adding millions of lower income families BACK onto the taxrolls and grabbing money from the oil companies and more profitable industries under the guise of “screwing the rich”, well there you have it.

    Not to mention the fact that “screwing the rich” doesn’t seem to include George Soros, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett or to a lesser extent, the union members who rake in tons of cash while their incompetence is protected.

    I could go on about the Limousine/Learjet liberals, but I think you already know the truth. You prefer to raise taxes “on the rich” so they can shelter their money, meanwhile the millions of poor you just added back on get to shoulder the burden.

    Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — June 29, 2008 @ 8:03 am - June 29, 2008

  123. Welcome EdInTampa!

    Ed — if I didn’t vomit in my mouth everytime I saw John McCain’s name, I’d probably wear his T-Shirt to some Pride event too.

    After all, PatriotPartner & I wore Bush-Cheney T-Shirts to DC Pride once. As I recall, hostile glares followed us the entire day.

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — June 29, 2008 @ 9:33 am - June 29, 2008

  124. Wrap it all up in the American Flag and with the Cross of Jesus, you can hoodwink the rubes of America to allowing you do whatever you want to them.

    Please file under “Pinky Bear.” You really don’t need to put anything else in the folder.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 29, 2008 @ 9:43 am - June 29, 2008

  125. I hope that gay “conservative” white males and woman fully comprehend what 4 more years of the bush legacy would mean to our personal freedoms and liberties. If bush, ahem, I mean McCain is elected you will have to make sure that closet door is pulled tightly behind you and no peeking for 4 MORE YEARS! It is only human to be wary of those that are a little different than us . But please don’t let the prejudice you may feel towards a man of color be used as a wedge against common sense.

    Comment by Kelli Busey — June 29, 2008 @ 10:31 am - June 29, 2008

  126. #126:

    Now we’re “prejudice(d)…[against] a man of color” for daring not to bow down to the Obamessiah. What are we supposed to do, change our middle names to Hussein?

    Comment by Attmay — June 29, 2008 @ 3:05 pm - June 29, 2008

  127. “…..what 4 more years of the bush legacy would mean to our personal freedoms and liberties….”

    Would you please list three of your personal freedoms and liberties that have been stepped on by the Bush administration.

    “…. McCain is elected you will have to make sure that closet door is pulled tightly behind you and no peeking for 4 MORE YEARS!….”

    Gays are stuck in the closet under Bush? McCain will force gays to stay in the closet? Is this website in the closet? Please elucidate, I am fascinated.

    “….please don’t let the prejudice you may feel towards a man of color be used as a wedge against common sense …..”

    What evidence have you found anywhere on this site that any single person opposes Obama because of the color of his skin. That is, where do you get off calling anyone here a bigot? And, if Barack Obama were white, would he have the following and support he has? Why?

    Does the race card trump all others or is it just another joker?

    Comment by heliotrope — June 29, 2008 @ 6:34 pm - June 29, 2008

  128. #122. Wow… Just wow… Does one take lessons to become that crazy? I mean I’ve heard plenty of crazy from both sides. But I think that merits a new distinction. Perhaps something like: Grade AA Extra-Saturated Ultra-High Grade Nutzo?

    Comment by PSUdain — June 30, 2008 @ 1:21 am - June 30, 2008

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  131. The self-loathing really is sad. I wish people could see that the only thing the Republican operatives care about is money. All the rest is to get votes. They don’t care about gay marriage but must oppose it to get the most hateful of the religious right, they don’t care whether someone has an abortion, they don’t care about your guns either, but know that there aren’t enough rich people to keep them in office. Without emotional issues (and frankly, lots of stupid people), they can’t suck in enough voters to get elected dog-catcher, so maybe being a gay Republican does make sense if you are rich and your taxes are the only issue that really matters. Much more than that matters to me, and no one is really standing up for my rights as a lesbian, but at least Obama isn’t meeting us behind the outhouse at 2:00 a.m.

    Comment by Dana — July 2, 2008 @ 4:35 pm - July 2, 2008

  132. No need to look here for any fresh ideas.
    Gay conservatives make me queasy.
    McCain is just too old to be elected.
    Too cranky and spoiled as well.

    Comment by devon — July 2, 2008 @ 4:42 pm - July 2, 2008

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