FACT: The following countries were on their way to developing and/or using Weapons of Mass Destruction throughout the Clinton Presidency.
January 20, 2001:
North Korea
Libya
Iraq
Iran
FACT: President George W. Bush has been able to do what neither President Clinton nor Madeleine Albright could dream of.  Eliminate that threat by 75%.
June 28, 2008:
North Korea
Libya
Iraq
Iran
Three down, one to go.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
Bush cut the threat by either 1/4th or 1/3rd, depending on how you look at Libya, which wasn’t considered one of the Axis of Evil. Either way, for all the criticism Bush takes only the United States seems able and willing to bring democracy and disarmerment to these countries. Neither the rest of the world nor the Democrats can or will.
Amy, don’t forget too that most of the Western European powers whose leaders did not urge action in Iraq have now been replaced with US-friendly governments/prime ministers:
France – Nicolas Sarkozy
Italy – Silvio Berlusconi
Germany – Angela Merkel
Greece – Constantine Mitsotakis
UK – Tony Blair/Gordon Brown
So much for “cowboy diplomacy.”
Regards,
Peter H.
Meanwhile, Democrats publicly, openly side with al Qaeda and hope al Qaeda will attack and assassinate United States officials. Powerline has the video:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/06/020860.php
Others have pointed it out. I’m mentioning it again because Powerline includes video. Watch the video. As Powerline says, Delahunt’s malice and viciousness are unmistakable.
Delahunt is now tellling people he had said, “I’m glad *I* finally have the chance to see you, Mr. Addington”. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong answer. Delahunt unmistakably says “I’m glad *they* [al Qaeda] finally have the chance to see you, Mr. Addington.” (Ii.e., to know who Addington is and hence to plot his death.) WATCH THE VIDEO.
Long story short, Delahunt is not only sympathetic to al Qaeda terrorists, HE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO BE HONEST ABOUT HIS OWN WORDS CAPTURED ON VIDEOTAPE FOR ALL TO SEE.
Aw, ILC, Delahunt was JOKING!!!!
I read it in the Washington Post. Geez!!! The Washington Post (Dana Milbank wrote the piece) wouldn’t lie. They are professional journalists, just bringing us the objective truth. You can absolutely rely on them.
Give it up, ILC, who you gonna believe, the Washington Post or your lying eyes?
My sister has turned out to be a “security Mom”. She tells me she will shed a tear when Bush 43 leaves office. It is mainly because she realizes the results to which GP has pointed out in this post. Instead of talking, begging, hoping these security issues would go away, including terrorism, W has acted. Thank you Mr President. Oh and by the way, imagine the cost of oil and gasoline if the 4 countries mentioned plus Al Quida had been allowed to mosey carelessly along threatening western republics.
What’s most astoundingly at odds with the familiar liberal narrative is that North Korea did this under concerted, long-term, multi-lateral pressure.
Democrats have been simultaneously railing against President Bush’s supposedly unilateral action in Iraq and against his stubborn insistence on multilateralism in the case of North Korea and Iran. (See: “refusing to meet North Korea one-on-one”)
Now if only the mullahs can be persuaded to correctly identify their self-interest in survival… and to notice the current state of health of Col. Kadaffi, Dear Leader Kim, and President Hussein.
#3 is perhaps the biggest crock of shit I have ever read here.
Damn, you folks are expert at adding volumes to what a person says. “Delahunt’s disgrace”? Maybe, but the real travesty here is that the right specializes in expansive hallucinatory enhancements to statements made by those they hate i.e. Democrats and liberals.
Using the same bizarre leaps of logic I can say that Heliotrope’s sarcasm means that he thinks all the folks at WaPo should be hunted down and killed because what they said wasn’t true. And ILC believes that Delahunt should be drawn and quartered in front of the whole nation, Democrats are equal to Al Queda and should be exterminated ASAP and Gene’s sister thinks that Bush should be made president for life and all opponents be sent to the gas chamber.
Sick.
Even if your bizarre interpretations of what he said were true – he is ONE Democrat and ONE member of a party does not represent the party as a whole. Those who are Republican on here should be real careful before throwing stones.
Bush also increased AIDS funding far more than Clinton ever did. So in essence Bush has done more to protect our lifestyle than any Democrat.
Dave (#7) – I assume you are prepared, then, to provide specific examples where Democrats have supported our troops in their mission and have stood up against Al-Qaeda.
A+B=C
#7, I’m beginning to regret that the nutroots came over here from Hufpo. Sure in the past we could get into some pretty heavy arguing, but it was usually about the issues. This guy is just spewing a lot of bile that no one in any of the comments ever said.
Yo! Dave, is this what has your bowels in an uproar?
OK. ILC, you should have said SOME Democrats……..
Now, Dave, you did NOT read ALL democrats…….
The fact remains, Delahunt should grow some and admit that he crossed the line. Addington peed all over his show trial and Delahunt came off like Keith Olberman. Not a proud moment for anyone on either side of the aisle.
Dana Milbank and the Washington Post have gone on record to try to gloss over Delahunt’s idiocy. One of the reasons the net is murdering liberal newspapers is because liberal newspapers no longer control the flow of the information. Check out the layoffs at the New York Times, The Chicago Tribune, the LA Times, the Palm Beach Post, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Milwaukee Tribune, The Washington Post and the McClatchy group in general.
We aren’t paying for their slant anymore and the advertisers are jumping to other forms. Strange that these smart guys in the press can’t figure it out. Maybe if they stopped talking to only each other…..
Golly Leah, wrong again. I’ve never read more than one or two things at HufPo. But I did read #3, maybe you should and then read mine again, slowly perhaps with a dictionary at hand, using your finger on the monitor the help you understand each word. Also go to the link provided in #3 and see what was said there. If you still don’t see how I was responding to what was said in comment #3 then there’s only 2 possible conclusions 1) you’re incapable of coherent thought (which I know isn’t true because I’ve read many of your comments and you are quite intelligent 2) you, as so often happens on here, simply don’t want to see what was written and would prefer to just make up something to respond to, mostly by ridiculous and false claims. If you have a problem with the comments moving away from the issue then speak to ILC.
#9 No Bruce I’m not there’s no need for me to do that. The point was that ILC and Powerline are making insane accusations based not on reality but on what they have created out of the man’s words. And, I’ve never claimed that the Democrats perfect. Also, supporting the troops means many things as does “standing up to Al Queda”. The mission is Bush’s, not the troops, they are simply pawns in the twisted game. And the “mission” is clearly not that of the American people, unless all polls are lies created by the MSM. The “mission” is the best thing that ever happened to Al Queda. Is that what you mean by “standing up to them” And finally what is the “mission”, it seems to have changed many times while the war has progressed. What happened to the “mission” of catching Bin Laden, oh wait, that was apparently forgotten, why would Bush want to punish the man that gave him the greatest boost in power that any madman could wish for?
Thanks for clearing that up Heliotrope 🙂
So Dave.. let me get this straight. You cannot and are unwilling to cite any examples where the Democrats have stood up for this nation in the face of a worldwide threat to the United States and our allies (a war declared by the jihadists, not by us)?
Yet you are unhesitant to give the full reins of power to that political party which, by contrast, ROUTINELY uses the same talking points that Al-Qaeda does.
Incredible.
“Yet you are unhesitant to give the full reins of power to that political party”
Really? I don’t recall every saying that. I would happily vote for a Republican, if I could find one free of the taint of the infectious disease of fanaticism and hate that has afflicted the party for so long. Bring back true conservatism to the party and then we’ll see.
“ROUTINELY uses the same talking points that Al-Qaeda does.”
A total bullshit statement.
ROFL – You’re missing your own posts then, Dave. Really. Try yourself sometime. Your GP comments are continually such total B.S.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong answer. You don’t get to put words in my mouth. I don’t believe that in the slightest. For the record, here is what I believe:
That’s what I believe. When trying to infer what someone believes, Dave, it is best to go by WHAT THEY SAID. The above is what I said. And what Delahunt actually said, is what Delahunt actually said. WATCH THE VIDEO. Here it is again, since you missed it the first time:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/06/020860.php
Try watching the video and gaining some knowledge, in other words Dave, before presuming to open your mouth.
Dave, at 66 I am a life long Republican. I do not know the people you are calling out. I admire Rush Limbaugh and have never heard him spew hate or be “fanatical” about anything other than capitalism and the marriage between rights and responsibilities.
I have met a number of Christian evangelicals who are fervent about their beliefs. Many of them consider homosexuality to be a sin, but I never met one who hates the man along with the sin.
Really, I don’t know where to find the conservatives and/or Republicans who are carriers of the “infectious disease of fanaticism and hate.”
Aside from the occasional David Duke or religious nut case, I do not where this charge comes from.
If you would care to educate me, I will gladly listen.
I would expect Dave to be sufficiently dumb and full of B.S. that he would now try to accuse me of being conservative, and/or a Republican.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with either of them, mind you. They’re just “not me”. I lack the conservative’s belief in / love of tradition, for example. When it comes to politics I only love human freedom, including America and real, small-government, laissez-faire capitalism.)
Unfortunately, as I heard John Bolton explain in an interview yesterday, the destruction of the cooling towers is largely symbolic. All they do is cool the superheated water. Kim can still fire up the reactors any old time he wants, and just dump the water back into the environment without cooling it.
While DelaHunt was wishing Al Qaeada was watching the Cheney aide, he had that smug look on his face, the one leftists supposedly hate about the leader of the free world.
re: the Bush accomplishments in Libya, Iraq and now N Korea. You think there will be an apology from Mr Kerry anytime soon? Remember he hammered Bush for not following the failed Clinton N Korea policy of talk talk and appease.
#16 again it comes down to reading what is said and trying to understand the actual statements is fundamental in communication. If you read my opening sentence in the paragraph where I put words in your mouth you might have comprehended that I was doing it on purpose to illustrate the point. I watched the vid clip and the only thing the man is guilty of is being stupid. He in no way said all the nonsense that you and powerline accuse him of. And don’t bother claimiing you know that he really meant what you claim. Lie if you want, it simply proves the insane lengths that some folks will go to attack their percieved enemy. The Dems do and say enough stupid things without you having to invent them.
ILC, I do agree that he should be honest about what he said. What he actually said though, not the warped crap you claim he said. It’s just not there.
Dave-
Has Senator John McCain said or done something, anything, that would lead you to believe he’s filled with “fanaticism and hate”?
Please be specific.
Add that to
*70+ resolutions demanding surrender in Iraq,
*stories in the New al-Qaeda Times leaking national intel INCLUDING the ID of a CIA operative “guilty” of questioning KSM,
*add to that liberals pissing and moaning about the guests at Club Gitmo while not giving a DAMN about how they treat THEIR prisonsers,
*Add how the liberals extend the United States Constitution to murderous bastards who kill our own soldiers
*Add how the liberals push to treat terrorism in the courts, despite the fact that it’s proven that a series of national security screwups were what failed to prevent 9/11.
*Add the fact that liberals are the ones who castrated the miltary to the point that they couldn’t afford bullets, nevermind putting the candy-asses in body armor and “up-armored” HumVees.
*Nevermind that a liberal president told SF in the Mog to rot in hell rather than spend a dime giving them the support they requested.
You can bet your sweet ass I’ll question the patriotism of liberals and lable mindless, excuse laden apologists like YOU as al-Qaeda cheerleaders.
There’s not a thing the candy-assed liberals have done to protect this country. OOOOHH! “Bush has put us in even more danger!!”. Well if that’s true, I say “BRING IT ON!” There’s not a thing that liberals in Congress have done to make things better. There’s not a damn thing you could point to which would make anybody feel safer.
OOOOHH!!!! The candy assed liberals captured and prosecuted 29 terrorists WHO WERE ALREADY HERE in America. Meanwhile, Bush has captured and killed over 6,000. Guess which impresses me more?
Running out to a microphone, shedding some fake tears and proclaiming “we will do everything to catch and convict those responsible” and then ignoring them doesn’t cut it. Which president captured KSM?
Long story short, Dave, you can take your defense of Delahunt and shove it. You can make excuses all you want, but the truth of the matter is that the liberal left are terrorist sympathizers and would love nothing more than the continued defeat of the United States.
There’s no “bizarre interpretations” about it. He said it, he meant it. Just like Murtha meant it when he proclaimed U.S. Marines guilty of a “massacre”. Just like Turban Durbin meant it when he compared U.S. soldiers to Nazis and Pol Pot’s killing fieleds. He meant exactly what he said. If he didn’t, he has no business as a part of the second branch and should pack his stufvf and head home.
Even shorter? Yeah, you’re an apologist who puts party before country. Nobody should defend what that POS said.
Dear, sweet naive Dave….
Either you are in complete denial or you need to expand your reading sources because INDEED the Democrats and Al-Qaeda frequently sound alike.
One (of just *many* examples) — Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL):
Google it, my friend. There are MANY MANY MANY other examples where bin Laden’s speeches sound like something delivered by an American Democrat on the floor of Congress.
What else are you in denial about?
Let’s break this down:
What is it you saw that makes you believe “the man is guilty of…being stupid�
No one said he said anything more.
Dave, you admit the man acted stupidly just from watching the clip. Are you now implying that pointing out Addington to al-Qaeda was a benign act? If so, what makes it “stupid†in your mind.
Specifically, you charge GP and Powerline with smearing Delahunt with a load of “nonsense.†What would that be? And why is it nonsense?
TGC wipe your chin off there’s froth running down it.
“No one said he said anything more.”
Wrong heliotrope, this is a direct quote from ILC
“(Ii.e., to know who Addington is and hence to plot his death)”
That is an interpretation of what he said NOT what he said. I say Delahunt was stupid because it is true that the above could be a result of what he said. I don’t believe he meant it and I don’t see all the viciousness etc. that was supposedly on his face when he said. Most of the time when I read a whine from the right about left wing viciousness it clearly comes from guilt over the fact that the person saying is knows that it is he/she who is really vicious. The people that celebrate Coulter, Savage and the rest can NEVER accuse anyone else of viciousness and hate with any credibility. The powerline story has many statements that are based on their opinion and interpretation of ONE sentence. It has little to do with reality.
I’m not in denial at all Bruce. Because one is against the obscene and uncivilized use of torture techniques which make the leadership responsible for it little better than the fanatics we are fighting has nothing to do with supporting Bin Laden or Al Queda. I do not apologize for expecting the United States to act in a different manner. If we have to resort to such low levels of behavior than we have lost the right to claim some kind of national superiority.
One more thing for TGC – wouldn’t you do better to take your out-of -control hatred and near insanity over to the frontline? Then you can kill to your heart’s content. Or is it that you’re just a bunch of hot air?
Dave, what game are you playing? Here is what ILC wrote:
In the parentheses ILC gives his interpretation of Delahunt’s meaning, as properly noted by the nota i.e., and is not ascribing those actual words to Delahunt.
ILC urges one and all to watch the video. Or, in ILC’s terms: WATCH THE VIDEO.
Apparently you do not feel Delahunt was real smart in this thing. Now, then, what was your reaction when Cheney told Patrick Leahy off, in no uncertain terms? As restrained as you are about Delahunt’s remark about Addington now being a known face for al-Qaeda to target?
For North Korea and Libya, the groundwork for this was laid down by the Clinton administration. And in NoKor’s case, the Dubya White House nearly destroyed the chances of this ever happening.
And, oh… where again were Iraq’s WMDs?
“what was your reaction when Cheney told Patrick Leahy off, in no uncertain terms”
If at all possible I avoid hearing or reading anything that comes out of Cheney’s mouth and I definetly would never watch him. The fact that someone like him can climb as he as he did is apalling and points out just how corrupt our political system can be and how little people pay attention to who they are voting for. But, so I can answer your question I will look up what was said.
I know that it was ILC interpretation but that is the problem. The “conservative” world is in an uproar and practically calling for his execution over what they THINK he meant when he said those words. That shows the true motive for much of what they say and believe. I just saw that Tammy Bruce, who I very much respect, is parroting the same foolishness.
Dave, can you provide any evidence to back up your point that our corrupt political system accounts for Cheney’s rise? He was well-respected on both sides of the political aisle when W tapped him in 2000 to be his running mate.
Dave, let’s assume we are all willing to have a reasoned debate here about our differences of opinion.
Here are some of your points:
How do we get around the fact that you consider many of us to be haters who specialize in hallucinatory enhancements?
Do we have to accept that Bush is a “madman” who hungers for power and that Bush has diverted the mission to catch Bin Laden to enhance his (Bush) power? Really? We have to accept that?
As a life long Republican, do I have some special responsibility in addressing your points since you look upon me as infected with fanaticism and hate?
Now, how am I to know when you will resort to this rejoinder rather than engage in open debate?
Hmmmm. We are vicious at heart which causes us to accuse others of being vicious. OK, I’m confused on that one. But is it a rule that if one ever agrees with Coutler, Savage and “the rest” that person becomes vicious and loses all credibility?
I missed the detailed report proving “obscene” and “uncivilized” use of torture. Explain to me how Bush and company have taken actions equal to the 9/11 attacks. Why is the war on terrorism limited to just Bin Laden and al-Qaeda? If that were the case, shouldn’t Congress have limited the war to only taking out al-Qaeda and Bin Laden?
This nicely wraps up my point. You come here with a lot of demands, opinions that are close to bigotry, tossing verbal hand grenades and then you complain when people hand it back to you.
Perhaps you might try thinking things through before you use your keyboard like a sawed off shot gun.
LOL. Clinton was paying North Korea billions while they continued to enrich uranium. And Libya agreed to give up their WMD’s and allow inspections for one reason and one reason only — they saw George Bush kicking the asses of dictators that didnt comply. Clinton laid NO groundwork, his policy was abject failure all across the board.
meanwhile, the latest NIE indicates we are MUCH more in danger than ever before due to the imcompetency of this criminal administration.
bushco’s legacy will be the iraq war, now totaling in the trillions of dollars. it’s time for all you people to wake up. bushco has been a disaster.
Well, that pretty much eviscerates any claim you had to reasonability.
Indeed. Kudos to all, above. (Especially heliotrope, though not only.)
And what part of Delahunt saying, on video with a smile of malice, “I’m glad *they* [al Qaeda] finally have the chance to see you, Mr. Addington” could an honest person fail to understand?
ILC – an honest person would admit that they are accusing another person of motives and meaning behind his words that aren’t necessarily there. “Smile of malice” is your perception, nothing more. And and anyway malice? Pretty ironic coming from someone willing to skewer a man for no good reason.
So AE, I’m not reasonable because I call a scumbag a scumbag. Fine, so I’m not reasonable but he’s still disgusting.
Heliotrope – it’s amazing to me that on a blog where many overflow with hatred towards Democrats and liberals on a daily basis that you consider my opinions “close to bigotry”. Whatever, you’re entitled to think what you think.
The hypocrisy on here is totally breathtaking. Guess I need to take another break from the sewer of modern American thought and spend some time reading from places where the focus is life and raising people up rather than shredding the innocent and worshiping those who bring death.
No, youre unreasonable for calling someone who is anything but a scumbag a scumbag. A man who, as GPW pointed out above, was perhaps the most roundly respected man in Washington before it because politically expedient for Democrats to paint him as otherwise. You need to learn to question what you’re told to believe.
Wrong. And the only criminal administration left office 7 years ago, taking the silverware, china, artwork and furniture with them.
In large part it will be. A rogue dictator, a threat to his subjects, his neighbors, the region and the world, and an avowed enemy of the United States, gone and replaced by an increasingly stable democracy and ally of the West. Another rogue regime in Afghanistan gone, compliance from Libya and increasing complaince from North Korea, Democratic reforms throughout the middle east, and zero attacks on America. All in the face of the most treasonous opposition party America has ever had. George W. Bush will go down in history as one of Americas near-great, if not great presidents. Just like Ronald Reagan whom liberals opposed nearly as much.
No, Jimmy Carter was a disaster. Clintons foreign policy was a disaster. Barack Obama, if he wins, will almost assuredly be a disaster, and America will be openly wishing it had President Bush back.
Well, BACK AT YOU, Dave!
Good golly, I have parsed your diatribes and moderated my responses and asked for your elucidation all in the hopes that you would engage in gentlemanly debate. Others here have given you as good or better than you have dumped on them and this site in general.
If you want to engage in an exchange of ideas, you will be better served if you keep your blanket condemnations at bay. If you just wish to throw bricks at people you do not wish to respect, then develop enough character to take what you are going to get in return.
You ought to. The European countries, whom the liberals want so desperatly for us to emulate, still use raw brutality to get the job done. You ought to watch British, German or Russian police riot videos some time. They’ll have you munching on the curb and then maybe they’ll take names if they really feel the need to.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, we punish our own for using Tazers or tear gas. Hell, in some states, they’ll punish police officers just for arresting Hispanics. HPD is a prime example. You SHOULD be ashamed of that. You should be ashamed that Ramos & Compean are in prison. You should be ashamed that our soldiers are castrated, tried and convicted for doing their jobs. You should be ashamed that those politicians you support and vote for call our own soldiers “stupid”, “terrorists”, “rapists” etc. But then I know that liberals are incapable of feeling shame or remorse.
Watch this video and then tell me again that we don’t.
First of all, you don’t know me. If you did, you’d know that I don’t hate anybody. However, I am fed up with people who are hell bent on our destruction for political gain. I’m fed up with people who sympathize with our enemies who actually are dictators & terrorists and then have the audacity to call their own president a dictator and a terrorist. Truth is, if he was, you would be beating a path to him to kiss his ass.
Second, the truth is that the real “out of control hatred” and “near insanity” resides with those still pissed that they couldn’t steal two national elections like good ol’ Joe Kennedy.
What’s more, you don’t know me, you don’t know where I am and you sure as hell don’t know my service to this country. There are a lot of us here who have served. You’re under the radar denegration is noted.
Hiding behind your keyboard and whining like a little bitch doesn’t get it.
Or would you not like knowing that some liberal douchebag would spooge all over his computer when your number comes up?
….and the horse you rode in on.