I wonder, would blacks who were registered Democrats in the 1950’s and 60’s also be classified as “self haters”?

& we gay conservatives just want the state to live us alone. I mean, heck, aren’t we celebrating today a revolution fought for independence from the increasingly encroaching British state?

You’re all self-loathing fools.

Fun.

I wonder if either Punky Bearster or Davy Jonesey has a number tattooed on their wrists and if so, who did it to them.

Regards,
Peter H.

GOP power brokers and their talking head pawns on talk radio and Fox TV are all vocally anti-gay. So, yeah, people who call gay GOP’ers self-haters have a point.

#23 jonesey12, would you kindly explain what “anti-gay” means?

Do you mean “against the agenda of some gays” or do you mean “there’s a gay, I hate him” or do you mean something in between?

Since I seem to fall into the category of homophobe, I would like to know what the 12 jonesey steps for being “anti-gay” are.

Also, I double-dog-dare those two to name ONE freedom that any Republican administration has ever taken away from them. Just one.

Regards,
Peter H.

In other words, it’s okay for the country to go bankrupt, and it’s okay to surrender to Islam, as long as I get to stick my willie wherever I damn well please without any consequences.

Good Lord, the stupidity.

Republicans don’t care what you do in your bedroom — but object to programs like the one in Massachusetts where gay sex activists were teaching 14 year olds about BDSM. This is Bible-thumping dogma?

Republicans don’t care what you do in your bedroom — but think the Folsom Street Fair is disgusting and shouldn’t be held on a public street, nor should young children be exposed to it. This is Bible-thumping dogma?

Republicans don’t care what you do in your bedroom— but object to the enumeration of rights and privileges based precisely on what you do in your bedroom. This is Bible-thumping dogma?

Republicans don’t care about what you do in your bedroom — but object to a media-driven culture of promiscuity that promotes a message that getting laid is all that matters, and if you care about anything other than that, you’re abnormal. Republicans are concerned about the devastating health and social consequences brought on by a culture of promiscuity and irresponsibility. This is Bible-thumping dogma?

Republicans don’t care what you do in your bedroom — but believe people must take responsibility for their actions. Many (not all) Republicans believe it’s wrong to punish (through murder) a baby for the sake of its parent’s convenience. This is Bible-thumping dogma?

At one time, what is now considered “Bible-thumping dogma” was once considered common sense and decency.

so bring back Clinton’s balanced budget in an era of Bush mega-deficits

Democrat lie #5,674. Sorry Presidents dont write the budget, congress does. That was the Republican balanced budget which Clinton was forced to sign.

But I am very liberal when it comes to social matters, especially gay equality and the insidious creep of Bible-thumping dogma into the political sphere.

Ah yes, “gay equality” — which we already have, but which the left insists must mean that society must value same-sex relationships every bit as much as it does the relationships that bring life into the world and reproduce society. The “equality” that “Bible Thumping” California rejected by 62%. Sorry Jonesey, that isnt “equality”, thats delusion.

Social matters are more important than money, which is why I refuse to vote Republican

last time I checked, it was Liberals telling me where and when i can and cant smoke, whatm, where, when and how, i can and cant drive, what i can and cant eat, who I can and cant associate with, what i can and cant say, read, listen to, think, that I cant defend myself, how I can and cant use my property, who I can and cant associate with…

…and yet you think Republicans are the ones who are dangerous to your liberty because they refuse to go along with your claim that buttsex is as good for society as creating life …not that you cant have a lifelong relationship with whomever you choose, but just that buttses isnt as good for society as creating life

Liberalism truly is a mental disease.

When I was a kid I hated after-school specials because they pre-empted the shows I wanted to watch: mainly, the sitcoms that came on after my mom’s soaps. But even I grew up enough to realize that the Democrats who pay you lip service and do nothing of value are no more your friends than a gay-bashing religious nut. And I didn’t need Scott Baio and Kristy McNichol to show me that.

But that never stops gay liberals from supporting it when your Democrat massas do it, right?

Just like, as I pointed out above, Federal and state constitutional amendments and job discrimination are “pro-gay” and “gay-supportive”, worthy of tens of millions of dollars and endorsements, when the Democrat massas do it.

What that makes obvious, jonesey, is that it’s not positions on gay issues or religion that affect gay liberals like you; it’s sheer, blind, partisan adherence. You literally, as shown in these examples, will support and endorse Democrat Party members who do exactly the same thing as the Republicans you deign to hate.

So in other words, Republicans are always to blame for the fact that Democrats are antigay.

I think those two posts of jonesey’s are the best example of gay self-loathing I’ve ever seen. He’s afraid to hold Democrats accountable for their behavior. He admits that he does exactly the opposite of what’s right for him because of his minority status.

This isn’t an adult. This is a confused teenager who hangs around people who pretend to be his friends, then abuse him — and he makes excuses for them. This is a child who’s so desperate to “fit in” that he makes and supports decisions that are completely contrary to what he knows is right.

It’s like every single after-school special ever made went right over their heads.

I would love to have a fiscally responsible government (so bring back Clinton’s balanced budget in an era of Bush mega-deficits). I would love to be taxed less on my income. I would love to continue paying only 15% on all my capital gains.

But I shudder at the thought of anti-gay legislation and policy (which ONLY comes from conservatives). I cringe at the thought of America being Bible-thumped to the point that it’s a Christian analog of Saudi Arabian Sharia law. Social matters are more important than money, which is why I refuse to vote Republican.

Republicans very often (not always, I’ll concede that) will ACTIVELY promote / work towards / initiate legislation and policy that is detrimental or outright hostile towards gay people.

Democrats, in contrast, are either truly gay-friendly, or gay-friendly only in words but not deeds, or are gay-hostile by jumping on anti-gay legislation bandwagons THAT ARE INITIATED BY REPUBLICANS.

So ask yourselves the question: Why would you vote for a party that is so often ACTIVELY hostile to you because of WHO YOU ARE? (If anybody here believes in the conservatives’ bullshit lines about hating the sin but loving the sinner, I’d like to sell them a bridge.)

The gay conservatives’ incessant harping on and on about Clinton and Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and DOMA conveniently and intentionally forget that: Clinton DID try to let gays serve openly in the military (failed yes, but he did try) and DOMA was hatched in the GOP-controlled legislature. Yes, Clinton didn’t veto it, but then again there never would’ve been something to sign OR veto had the right wingnuts on Capitol Hill not come up with it in the first place.

GOP power brokers and their talking head pawns on talk radio and Fox TV are all vocally anti-gay. So, yeah, people who call gay GOP’ers self-haters have a point.