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	<title>Comments on: Obama: Wishy-Washy on Gay Marriage&#8211;as on Most Issues</title>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Obama Favors &#8220;Equivalent Rights&#8221; for Gays</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/03/obama-wishy-washy-on-gay-marriage-as-on-most-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-413165</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Obama Favors &#8220;Equivalent Rights&#8221; for Gays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also note that while he says later that he opposes same-sex marriage, he is quite mealy-mouthed in defining that &#8220;special place&#8221; carved out for traditional marriage. On gay marriage, he seems to want to have it both ways. As I&#8217;ve previously observed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also note that while he says later that he opposes same-sex marriage, he is quite mealy-mouthed in defining that &#8220;special place&#8221; carved out for traditional marriage. On gay marriage, he seems to want to have it both ways. As I&#8217;ve previously observed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Obama: For Gay Marriage Before he Was Against it</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Obama: For Gay Marriage Before he Was Against it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that the Democratic presidential nominee is trying to have it both ways on gay marriage. As I observed in July: While he says he opposes gay marriage, favoring retaining the traditional definition (seeing it as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that the Democratic presidential nominee is trying to have it both ways on gay marriage. As I observed in July: While he says he opposes gay marriage, favoring retaining the traditional definition (seeing it as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a committed socialist. His &quot;community organizer&quot; period was aimed at organzing the peasants to game the system and to gain practical experience at &quot;organizing&quot; useful communities. His next phase was to gain political power. His goal is to be elected and get the socialism ball rolling. He is in the party that will do whatever it can to create all manner of &quot;free&quot; programs.

Obama&#039;s flip-flops are nuanced, indeed. He will say what it takes to grab the power. Then he will tack hard left and let the state get its fists on everything imaginal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a committed socialist. His &#8220;community organizer&#8221; period was aimed at organzing the peasants to game the system and to gain practical experience at &#8220;organizing&#8221; useful communities. His next phase was to gain political power. His goal is to be elected and get the socialism ball rolling. He is in the party that will do whatever it can to create all manner of &#8220;free&#8221; programs.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s flip-flops are nuanced, indeed. He will say what it takes to grab the power. Then he will tack hard left and let the state get its fists on everything imaginal.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7: Not every gay who wants to be married would get married right away. One would assume they would find a serious partner first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7: Not every gay who wants to be married would get married right away. One would assume they would find a serious partner first.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Goluskin</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/03/obama-wishy-washy-on-gay-marriage-as-on-most-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-245061</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark J. Goluskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Messiah Barack is FOR same-sex marriage by his position on Prop. 8. And the letter to the Alice B. Toklas club-BTW, who is Alice B. Toklas?-club congratulating those who have &quot;married&quot; is proof positive. And, the infamous Trintiy United Church of Christ is for same-sex marriage. It is the official policy of the United Church of Christ. So, why is hedging, bobbing and weaving on this issue? Because if he was honest, he would lose the election. At the end of the day, it is one of soooooo many reasons why no sane, thinking person can vote for this charlatan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Messiah Barack is FOR same-sex marriage by his position on Prop. 8. And the letter to the Alice B. Toklas club-BTW, who is Alice B. Toklas?-club congratulating those who have &#8220;married&#8221; is proof positive. And, the infamous Trintiy United Church of Christ is for same-sex marriage. It is the official policy of the United Church of Christ. So, why is hedging, bobbing and weaving on this issue? Because if he was honest, he would lose the election. At the end of the day, it is one of soooooo many reasons why no sane, thinking person can vote for this charlatan.</p>
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		<title>By: HollywoodBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollywoodBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Great Britain, there were 16,106 same sex marriages the first year that gays/lesbians were allowed to marry in 2006.  In 2007, there were 8,728, a 46% drop.

In Massachusetts, there were 6,121 same sex marriages in 2004; 2,060 in 2005 and 1,442 in 2006.  In 2007 there were 867 for the first eight months of the year.   Nearly 2/3 of the Massachusetts same sex marriages were lesbian couples.  And compared to straight marriages where almost half were under couples under 30, gay marriage partners tended to be older with about 1/3 in their 40s.  Once the initial burst of confetti gets swept up, there appears to be a significant drop in the number of gays/lesbians who want to legally tie the knot.

About the only group who really wants same sex marriage is menopausal lesbians.  And after the way Obama treated Mrs Clinton, I don&#039;t think that they are going to vote for him this November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Great Britain, there were 16,106 same sex marriages the first year that gays/lesbians were allowed to marry in 2006.  In 2007, there were 8,728, a 46% drop.</p>
<p>In Massachusetts, there were 6,121 same sex marriages in 2004; 2,060 in 2005 and 1,442 in 2006.  In 2007 there were 867 for the first eight months of the year.   Nearly 2/3 of the Massachusetts same sex marriages were lesbian couples.  And compared to straight marriages where almost half were under couples under 30, gay marriage partners tended to be older with about 1/3 in their 40s.  Once the initial burst of confetti gets swept up, there appears to be a significant drop in the number of gays/lesbians who want to legally tie the knot.</p>
<p>About the only group who really wants same sex marriage is menopausal lesbians.  And after the way Obama treated Mrs Clinton, I don&#8217;t think that they are going to vote for him this November.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted B.  (Charging Rhino)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted B.  (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dhimmicrats are all praying he&#039;s the next great liberal Mahdi, but he is and will always remain a slick Chicago Democratic Party politician; &lt;i&gt;&quot;...say anything to get elected, and look out for your real friends.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Just like slick Willie before him, he&#039;ll tack and triangulate all over the legislative map til &quot;Reform&quot; is just a hollow slogan and &quot;Hope&quot; will be just for Hope&#039;s sake.  As with the &quot;famous&quot; Pelosi-Reid 2006 Congressional agenda, nothing will happen and no fingers will be impolitely-pointed by the Democrats at the Democrats.  They&#039;ll just mail-out more fear-mongering flyers to the G/L community &quot;blaming&quot; the Right and the GOP and begging for more money to fight the good battle once again in 2010 and 2012.

IF the GOP doesn&#039;t deliberately provoke the G/L community this general election, they just might get that 30% GPW&#039;s betting-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dhimmicrats are all praying he&#8217;s the next great liberal Mahdi, but he is and will always remain a slick Chicago Democratic Party politician; <i>&#8220;&#8230;say anything to get elected, and look out for your real friends.&#8221;</i>  Just like slick Willie before him, he&#8217;ll tack and triangulate all over the legislative map til &#8220;Reform&#8221; is just a hollow slogan and &#8220;Hope&#8221; will be just for Hope&#8217;s sake.  As with the &#8220;famous&#8221; Pelosi-Reid 2006 Congressional agenda, nothing will happen and no fingers will be impolitely-pointed by the Democrats at the Democrats.  They&#8217;ll just mail-out more fear-mongering flyers to the G/L community &#8220;blaming&#8221; the Right and the GOP and begging for more money to fight the good battle once again in 2010 and 2012.</p>
<p>IF the GOP doesn&#8217;t deliberately provoke the G/L community this general election, they just might get that 30% GPW&#8217;s betting-on.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me he appears to be the ultimate cynical politician. He is an extreme lefty, he would like  to attract some moderates, so he changes all his lefty positions. 

Interesting, the one issue where he tacks further to the left is gay marriage.  I guess he feels that he has the black vote, so they&#039;ll just swallow that bitter pill. (news flash to nutroots - The Black community isn&#039;t in favor of gay rights, let alone gay marriage. They really don&#039;t like it when gays equate the gay struggle to the black struggle).

So if, God forbid he wins this election, all those new positions he has taken this summer will go out the window. Even the commitment to Gay marriage, like all Democrats, that is one area where you talk the talk, but never ever walk the walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me he appears to be the ultimate cynical politician. He is an extreme lefty, he would like  to attract some moderates, so he changes all his lefty positions. </p>
<p>Interesting, the one issue where he tacks further to the left is gay marriage.  I guess he feels that he has the black vote, so they&#8217;ll just swallow that bitter pill. (news flash to nutroots &#8211; The Black community isn&#8217;t in favor of gay rights, let alone gay marriage. They really don&#8217;t like it when gays equate the gay struggle to the black struggle).</p>
<p>So if, God forbid he wins this election, all those new positions he has taken this summer will go out the window. Even the commitment to Gay marriage, like all Democrats, that is one area where you talk the talk, but never ever walk the walk.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nuance&quot; is liberal for bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nuance&#8221; is liberal for bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/03/obama-wishy-washy-on-gay-marriage-as-on-most-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-244768</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baynews9.com/content/120/2008/7/3/362312.html?title=Obama%20opens%20door%20to%20altering%20his%20Iraq%20policy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Now it seems he&#039;s going to &quot;alter&quot; (read: flip-flop) on his Iraq policy.&lt;/a&gt; But, of course, that&#039;s part of his hysterical sprint way the hell over to the center. The KOSholes must be apoplectic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.baynews9.com/content/120/2008/7/3/362312.html?title=Obama%20opens%20door%20to%20altering%20his%20Iraq%20policy" rel="nofollow">Now it seems he&#8217;s going to &#8220;alter&#8221; (read: flip-flop) on his Iraq policy.</a> But, of course, that&#8217;s part of his hysterical sprint way the hell over to the center. The KOSholes must be apoplectic.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nuance&quot;, of course, being the nice way to say &quot;hypocrisy&quot;.

Sort of like how liberal gays claim anyone who supports &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washblade.com/2008/3-21/news/national/12259.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; state&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2007/02/lets-see-if-we-can-follow-bouncing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Federal&lt;/a&gt; constitutional amendments and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washblade.com/2008/3-21/news/national/12259.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; discriminates against gays&lt;/a&gt; is homophobic and hateful -- except when their Democrat massas do it, at which point it becomes &quot;nuanced&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nuance&#8221;, of course, being the nice way to say &#8220;hypocrisy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sort of like how liberal gays claim anyone who supports <a href="http://www.washblade.com/2008/3-21/news/national/12259.cfm" rel="nofollow"> state</a> or <a href="http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2007/02/lets-see-if-we-can-follow-bouncing.html" rel="nofollow"> Federal</a> constitutional amendments and <a href="http://www.washblade.com/2008/3-21/news/national/12259.cfm" rel="nofollow"> discriminates against gays</a> is homophobic and hateful &#8212; except when their Democrat massas do it, at which point it becomes &#8220;nuanced&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jonesey12</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonesey12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical conservative.  Either you&#039;re too stupid to understand nuance or you&#039;re too much of a wingnut shrill to acknowledge it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical conservative.  Either you&#8217;re too stupid to understand nuance or you&#8217;re too much of a wingnut shrill to acknowledge it.</p>
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