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The Change Obama Stands For

In his constant flipping and flopping, Obama shows that his followers supporters’ hopes notwithstanding, he’s just another typical politician. As Gerard Baker writes today:

Since securing the Democratic nomination a few weeks ago, the only change coming from the Illinois senator has been in what he seems to stand for.

I mean, what does the guy stand for besides hope and change?

UPDATE:  In a similar vein, Charles Krauthammer writes about “brazen reversals of position and abandonment of principles” (Via Instapundit). So brazen have these reversals been that should, come January, Obama gets to the White House:

he will have to figure out what he really believes. The conventional liberal/populist stuff he campaigned on during the primaries? Or the reversals he is so artfully offering up now?

I have no idea. Do you? Does he?

UP-UPDATE: Also linking the Baker column quoted above, JammieWearingFool offers this aside, “give him another week to stake out a new position on basically everything.

UP-UP-UPDATE: Victor Davis Hanson observes: “The question is no longer on what has Obama backtracked, but rather on what has he not?

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  1. Didn’t you hear, Dan? Der snObama stands for cheap arugula for all and for protecting everyone from angry white people with guns.

    Speaking of which – didn’t Adolf Hitler and Hugo Chavez both campaign for office using the words “hope” and “change” as well? And didn’t they both have vast numbers of mesmerized supporters who threatened to destroy anyone who stood in their way?

    Sieg heil, snObama.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 4, 2008 @ 12:11 pm - July 4, 2008

  2. Happy Independence Day everyone!!!! It’s more than just the 4th!

    As for what Obama believes in – himself and his power. If God forbid he becomes president watch him go as far left as he can as quickly as he can!

    Comment by Leah — July 4, 2008 @ 12:27 pm - July 4, 2008

  3. #2 – Back at ya, Leah! And to all GP readers/trolls/whatevers, Happy Independence Day, even if you are not proud to live in the USA!

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 4, 2008 @ 1:57 pm - July 4, 2008

  4. The Third Reich comparisons have always seemed a little over the top for my tastes. But things are becoming too similar to ignore. Today the Obama camp announced that it is now contemplating moving Obama’s acceptance speech from the Pepsi Center to Invesco Field which can seat 75,000. All the Obamicans need to do is lead the way with torches to have a recreation of the Nuremburg Rallies. Maybe they can use solar flashlights and not leave any carbon footprints. A shame that Leni Reifenstahl died not too long ago. She’d be perfect for taping the event.

    Comment by HollywoodBill — July 4, 2008 @ 3:23 pm - July 4, 2008

  5. I’m sure he’ll find another Leni Reifenstahl pretty easy-as long as he pays her. His campaign seems to want all they can get for free-wonder where the cash is going????’

    Comment by Laurieann — July 4, 2008 @ 6:42 pm - July 4, 2008

  6. Who needs Leni Reifenstahl?? We have Michael Moore!! I’m sure he’ll be there all raring to go.

    Comment by Gay(ex)Pat Toronto — July 4, 2008 @ 7:26 pm - July 4, 2008

  7. Greetings to the People’s Republic of Toronto, eh?

    I’m reminded of the days when Rush was on TV. There was one episode when There was a graphic of the Energizer Bunny with Clinton’s face on it going across the bottom of the screen. An announcer’s voice intoned “He keeps waffling and waffling and waffling…!” It’d be sweet to see that again with Obamessiah’s face on it.

    BOOSH!!

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — July 5, 2008 @ 4:15 am - July 5, 2008

  8. All I can say is the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Sieg heil Obama.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 5, 2008 @ 12:04 pm - July 5, 2008

  9. Pointing a finger at Obama, eh? McCain is no gem — actually, he’s a million times worse. Just in the past couple of days, publications such as the Wall St. Journal and NY Times wrote about the fact that McCain can’t keep his message consistent. They are now putting him on a teleprompter so that he doesn’t stray too far away from his campaign message and doesn’t say truthful statements such as the fact that he lacks command of domestic economic issues. I guess all he knows how to do is to well is to hold a rifle and throw a grenade at people he doesn’t like.

    Comment by Commentator from LA — July 6, 2008 @ 11:20 am - July 6, 2008

  10. #9 – Methinks you are projecting about snObama re the teleprompter; from what I’ve seen, he stutters worse than GWB when asked something off-the-cuff.

    And as far as grenade-throwing and rifle holding, I think that should be a prerequisite for any POTUS candidate. Especially when facing Islamofascists and state-side wusses.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 6, 2008 @ 11:36 am - July 6, 2008

  11. I love it when Obama has to come back out to the same bank of mics to redo his remarks. I wonder if there is a record for the number of times he has to huff and puff and come back out and say, “I’d like to clarify the correction of the remarks I made just a few minutes ago of my previous comments I made earlier.” BHO

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — July 6, 2008 @ 1:24 pm - July 6, 2008

  12. In regards to coming back to the microphone to redo his remarks, McCain has been accused of doing the exact same thing. Why is Obama being held to a higher standard? I don’t understand why Obama is being accused of being the “typical politician” when McCain is guilty of the same. Are you being blind to that fact? Actually, isn’t every politician guilty of being wishy-washy? Why do you think there are so many jokes about politicians?

    Comment by Commentator from LA — July 6, 2008 @ 2:30 pm - July 6, 2008

  13. Um, Commentator, Obama has flipped on nearly every major issue. McCain has at least remained constant on the big ones.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — July 6, 2008 @ 2:54 pm - July 6, 2008

  14. Ah Commentator….I thought Obama was the change, the different one, the non polititian???? If he’s just like the rest of them bumms, why are we suppose to vote for the most inexperienced, unqualified polititian that has come along in 100 years? Huh?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — July 6, 2008 @ 4:36 pm - July 6, 2008

  15. McCain has at least remained constant on the big ones.

    Well, except for the Bush tax cuts, which he demagogued the time, but underwent a miraculous election-year conversion on, and now claims to support.

    Oh, and on judges. He used to say Alito ‘scared him.’ And he teamed up with Democrats to torpedo constructionist judicial nominations. Then, he had another election year conversion, and claimed he would seek strict constructionists. But then, he flipped again, and reminded Democrats how he supported Ginsburg and Breyer.

    It’s also kind of hard to reconcile that ‘strict constructionist’ claim with his stated belief that “clean government trumps the first amendment’ and therefore political speech should be regulated by the government.

    Also, he flipped on offshore drilling, but maybe not since he now just claims to want to kick the can back to the states, even though 50 miles off-shore is no longer a state issue. Except for Alaska, which doesn’t deserve to develop its oil reserves for some reason.

    But, he’s still solidly pro-amnesty. Can’t wait to get into office and give citizenship to 20 million new Democrats as a reward for breaking the law. On amnesty and screwing Republicans, McCain is absolutely consistent. Maybe that’s what you meant by ‘the big issues.’

    Comment by V the K — July 6, 2008 @ 4:36 pm - July 6, 2008

  16. When it comes to McCains flipping on some issues. It is possible some situations change. For instance energy. With $4 soon to be $5 gasoline.. I’m hopeful even leftists will “flip flop” on drilling. Even Barbara Streisand, if told she couldn’t keep her mansions at 56 degrees A/C would freak and scream for more drilling. BHO having seen the success of the surge and now the massive progress in Iraq I’m hopeful will continue to somersault on retreating from Iraq. Iraq is pumping almost 3 million barrells of crude a day. In 5 years it could be trippled. Whooaa. Freedom ain’t it pretty?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — July 6, 2008 @ 9:59 pm - July 6, 2008

  17. I’m not naive to think that Obama is not unlike any other politician. However, he does represent change…change from the failed Bush administration…the failed war in Iraq; the failed US economy; failed leadership on environmental proactivism; failed international diplomacy re: our relationship with other nations (the list goes on and on and on…I don’t have enough years left in my life to finish). Oh, by the way, I think I read recently in the Wall St. Journal that McCain has waffled lately on his stance re: the timing of US troop withdrawal from Iraq. Hmmm…seems that McCain is a bit of the waffler.

    Comment by Commentator from LA — July 6, 2008 @ 11:05 pm - July 6, 2008

  18. Commentator, seems like you get all your news from the MSM. Read the Wall Street Journal a little more carefully.

    At least you acknowledge that Obama is similar to other politicians.

    But, those failures you mention are hardly failures. We’re winning in Iraq as all the latest reports show. While we are experiencing an economic slowdown, it’s pretty minor as such slowdowns go. Our diplomacy is far from a failure, with an increasing number of pro-Bush regimes (see e.g., Canada, France, Germany, Italy most recently).

    McCain has never waffled on troop withdrawal from Iraq, conditioning it on conditions on the ground there.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — July 6, 2008 @ 11:44 pm - July 6, 2008

  19. The problem is that, if all these things were really that bad, why would we want an incompetent man with no experience in dealing with any of them and with a record of associating with and benefiting from corrupt people who fleece the American taxpayers and create nothing but destruction?

    The fact that the Democrat Party is pushing an incompetent and inexperienced person like Obama indicates one of two things:

    1) They know things really aren’t that bad — so they’re lying

    2) They believe Obama’s skin color makes him competent — so they’re insane.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — July 7, 2008 @ 12:22 am - July 7, 2008

  20. #19: GREAT POINT, NDXXX! I never really made that specific connection. All liberals do is spend the day bitching about the harrowing state the country is in and telling the rest of us that “change” is the answer and Obama will give that to us. But you’re so right, if the U.S. is so totally and completely fuc*ed right now, what good will bringing in a trainee (at best) to fix them? Well done, as usual.

    Comment by Sean A — July 7, 2008 @ 12:31 am - July 7, 2008

  21. Do you guys really believe that the domestic economy isn’t all that bad? That it’s just really minor? Wow, you guys really have your heads deep in the sand.

    Right now, Obama is leading in the national polls. That means that the American populace, whether or not they believe Obama to be inexperienced, wants someone different from what we’ve had for the past 8 years. Bush is incredibly unpopular now according to the polls, even among some Republicans. That’s why McCain is working hard to distance himself from the W as much as he feasibly can. Americans on the whole are psychologically at a low point…we’re feeling desperate for a fresh perspective…someone who can impart to us a feeling of HOPE, hope for a better tomorrow. That’s why Obama’s message resonates with lots of people, whether or not they think he’s experienced.

    Right now, with a war that sees no real end in sight, rising unemployment, diminished wages, and rising gasoline prices, Americans are feeling worried and scared. That’s the story line of today’s polls. THE REAL TRUTH IS THIS: A true leader isn’t just someone with a long list of elected posts or seats on committees but someone who can inspire. In 2008, the candidate who will win the US presidency will be someone who will give America a psychological boost. Again, whether or not Obama is experienced enough, he’s succeeding in giving America that injection of HOPE. Why do you think his campaign is branded with that word? If anything, Obama is marketing savvy. McCain isn’t. Right now, a widget sounds more sexy than McCain.

    Comment by Commentator from LA — July 7, 2008 @ 1:42 am - July 7, 2008

  22. Do you guys really believe that the domestic economy isn’t all that bad? That it’s just really minor? Wow, you guys really have your heads deep in the sand.

    Or we have a rational grasp on history and current events.

    Take, for example, our friends in Germany, the welfare state over which Democrats like Obama gush as an economic miracle.

    1/15/08 Germany’s GDP rose 2.5% in 2007.

    1/3/08 The unemployment rate in Germany improved from 8.6% to 8.4% in December, the lowest in 15 years.

    Putting that into perspective, the US economy increased the amount in one quarter of 2007 that the German economy did in the entire year, with our unemployment rate being a fraction of Germany’s.

    Or, as phrased elsewhere:

    In 2008, using history as a yardstick, life actually is better and richer and fuller, with more opportunities than ever before.

    “Objectively things are going real well,” says author Gregg Easterbrook, who discusses the disconnect in his book “The Progress Paradox: How Life Gets Better While People Feel Worse.”

    He ticks off supporting statistics: A relatively low unemployment rate, 5.5 percent in June. (Employers did, indeed, cut payrolls last month by 62,000 jobs, but consider the 10.1 rate of June 1983 or the 7.8 rate of June 1992.) Declining rates of violent crimes, property crimes and big-city murders. Declining rates of disease. Higher standards of living for the middle class and the working poor. And incomes that, for many, are rising above the rate of inflation.

    But unfortunately, that doesn’t help the Obama campaign or the Democrat Party; hence they, along with their media shills, have to make sure that everyone thinks things are going horribly.

    Especially when their candidate has nothing to recommend him other than his skin color.

    THE REAL TRUTH IS THIS: A true leader isn’t just someone with a long list of elected posts or seats on committees but someone who can inspire.

    Hitler was an inspiring leader. Jim Jones was an inspiring leader. Mussolini was an inspiring leader. All of them succeeded in inspiring their countries/organizations right into the toilet.

    Furthermore, if “inspiring leadership” led to successes, Obama would have an enormous string of them.

    He doesn’t.

    Why has someone who has always been such an “inspiring leader” been so unable to produce anything that even remotely resembles a record of accomplishment in either the private or the public sector?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — July 7, 2008 @ 2:52 am - July 7, 2008

  23. 22: “Right now, with a war that sees no real end in sight, rising unemployment, diminished wages, and rising gasoline prices, Americans are feeling worried and scared.”

    Uh, they sure are, Commen-tater. I’m “worried and scared” about an Obama Presidency because people like you think the solution to every problem is to be found in feelings and emotions. Seriously, how will a “psychological boost” going to make gasoline prices go down? You set out a list of problems, but none of them will be fixed by an “injection of HOPE.” In fact, they will be made WORSE by the actual things Obama has said he will do to “fix” them.

    Rising gasoline prices? No problem–Obama is going to impose a punitive tax on those evil oil companies that actually go out and get the oil for us, which will make prices go up when it is passed on to the consumer and it will also ensure FEWER oil speculators will enter the business because Obama will just take the profits if you happen to be successful. Of course, Obama is also opposed to ANY domestic drilling to increase the supply, which as any child knows, will cause the price to go down.

    And “diminished wages” and “rising unemployment”? No problem there–Obama will just raise taxes. Isn’t that original? Take more of the people’s money away from them so they’ll have less to spend, and viola! The economy suddenly rebounds and goes through the roof? Wrong again, jackass. Greater taxes have NEVER resulted in greater prosperity for the citizens, and never will.

    So, do you really think that despite raising taxes and blocking domestic oil production, Obama’s hope, change and inspiration will somehow fix these problems anyway? If so, you are delusional.

    And by the way, even The London Times is reporting today that Al-Qaeda has had its “last stand” in Iraq in the northern city of Mosul. A remaining Al-Qaeda force of 1200 that had been flushed out of more central areas was “crushed.” 1000 of them were taken alive. So, contrary to the bumper-sticker you’ve memorized, the Iraq War is not one “with no end in sight.” If your “hope and change” candidate were in charge, we would have pulled out months ago, leaving those 1200 Al-Qaeda savages to re-group and take bloody revenge on Iraqi men, women and children who were supportive of democracy.

    So please keep describing your views to others just as you did in your comment. Conservatives have been saying for months that Obama’s supporters have absolutely no substantive reasons for supporting Obama except these touchy-feely claims that everything will magically be fixed because of hope, change and inspiration. You prove that the accusation is 100% correct.

    [Comment edited due to violation of community terms of conduct.]

    Comment by Sean A — July 7, 2008 @ 3:09 am - July 7, 2008

  24. My comment was meant for #21: Commentator in LA. Obviously.

    Comment by Sean A — July 7, 2008 @ 3:12 am - July 7, 2008

  25. 17

    However, he does represent change…change from the failed Bush administration…the failed war in Iraq

    Instead, Obama wants to return to what i call the Afghanistan 1990s Doctrine.

    The failed 1990s Policy of just ignoring the Jihadis.. allowing them to have a sanctuary in collapsed States , and to train many people to fight against us.

    Obama not only advocates returning to that, he’s also willing to contribute to Iraq becoming one of the collapsed States.

    Comment by Vince P — July 7, 2008 @ 4:05 am - July 7, 2008

  26. Commentator in LA never actually defends Obama. instead he just counterattacks. Typical and pointless to engage with

    Comment by Vince P — July 7, 2008 @ 4:08 am - July 7, 2008

  27. Compared with the Jimmy Carter economy of the 1970′s, where inflation, interest rates, and unemployment were in double digits and marginal tax rates were 70%, the current economy is not in such bad shape.

    Ironically, it’s the Carter policies of higher taxes and malaise that Obama has promised to bring back… confident that a generation has passed and everyone has forgotten what a really bad economy looks like. Apparently, he is right.

    However, neither candidate has a clue how to fix the economy. McCain is just as eager as Obama to saddle the economy with massive costs in order to fight ‘climate change,’ which makes about as much sense as taxing the economy to fight continental drift.

    Both candidates are eager to drive down the wages of working class families through the massive import of cheap illegal foreign labor.

    When it comes to economics, both McCain and Obama are complete frackking morons.

    Comment by V the K — July 7, 2008 @ 5:18 am - July 7, 2008

  28. I love this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiurw9T5p_s

    Linking Carter and Obama.. it’s frighening.

    Comment by Vince P — July 7, 2008 @ 5:34 am - July 7, 2008

  29. #27 – Hey V, I think that’s where Hank got his idea that you called him a frakking moron in the previous thread. Just guessing.

    I got your back.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 7, 2008 @ 6:55 pm - July 7, 2008

  30. Pete, I just go where the evidence leads. Obama is a moron because he thinks a massive tax increase when the economy is on the verge of recession is a good idea. McCain is a moron because… oh, where to begin, really?

    Comment by V the K — July 7, 2008 @ 7:23 pm - July 7, 2008

  31. http://philipschaefer.com/2008/06/12/the-misery-index-carter-and-reagan/
    Making an effort to educate the leftists since our massively overfunded education system doesn’t actually teach.
    The misery index now 8.5% compared to the Jimmy Carter years when it was in the 20% range. That’s just inflation and unemployment combined. Some since like to make it 1. inflation, 2. unemployment and 3. interest rates combined. If you add in Carters interest rates of almost 20% you get and incredible misery index of nearly 40% in 1979. Those three in the Bush years….14.5%. How you like them apples? Horrible Bush economy?? Grow up. Barack Obama, back to the future? The horror is it took Ronald Reagan almost 7 years to reverse the damage done by the incompetent and liberal Jimmy Carter. Trouble is Americans aren’t taught what happened 200 years ago, note the fascination with “John Adams” recently. Carter was only 30 years ago. Might as well be talking about the Egyptians eh.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — July 7, 2008 @ 10:54 pm - July 7, 2008

  32. Things are only going to get worse… the more debt this govt incurs, the more worthless the dollar gets.. the more things will be unpaid , etc..

    The Fed Govt is bankrupt. The Democrats have no interest in admitting that.

    Comment by Vince P — July 7, 2008 @ 11:06 pm - July 7, 2008

  33. Neither this nor the 1970s recession compare to the Great Depression of the 1930s. There are no bread lines, and there are no gas lines.

    Slightly OT, one thing I find interesting is that people in California complain about that states $16 billion deficit. They forget that under Gray Davis it was $38 billion.

    Comment by Attmay — July 8, 2008 @ 7:46 am - July 8, 2008

  34. And isn’t it astounding that for the first time ever, Congress’ approval rating is in the SINGLE DIGITS? (H/T Drudge)

    That means that Bush’s approval rating at 30% is over 3 times as high as Congress’. But you will never see the alphabet networks admit that; it goes against their anti-Bush template.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — July 8, 2008 @ 10:28 am - July 8, 2008

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  36. OMG.. My heart can’t take much more.

    Get a load of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZprtPat1Vk

    Barack Obama: Your Children Should Learn To Speak Spanish

    Comment by Vince P — July 9, 2008 @ 10:48 am - July 9, 2008

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