Comments on: Allowing Gays In Military Won’t Impact Unit Cohesion

By: Smarty

Smarty — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:51:21 +0000

And if you don’t think that we have a problem with Liberal lawyers (who just happen to be disproportionately Jewish, you explain it, not my job) playing the modern-day Sonderkommando to the Muslims, communists and everyone else who is trying to weaken us then you are insane.

By: Smarty

Smarty — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:43:25 +0000

One, I don’t need credit for what others have done, but I know dicksuckers, muslims, feminists, communists and a mayriad of others did not create this nation. But they sure to step up to the plate to make their demands known.

And yes, all of the above keep Liberal Jew Lawyers ™ on retainer.

Nice attempt at cheap shots, but gay promiscuity is pretty commonly known and understood to be far, far worse than what we find in heterosexual life.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:39:50 +0000

You and your wife suck off strangers in the bushes?

Sorry smarty, you don’t get credit for everything every straight white Christian male has done. You get credit for what you’ve done, that’s it. And no matter how much you’ve done, I can find a homosexual who has done more. Did you give your life defending Washington DC from a terrorist attack? A gay man did.

And liberal “Jew” lawyers, as you say, will fail in court for the same reasons they failed before. The military is not subject to civilian employment law.

I really hope you aren’t a conservative. You’re exactly the type of racist bigoted f**k that gives us conservatives a bad name.

And by the way, trust me, nobody wants to hear about your pathetic sex life, spare your co-workers, spare us all.

By: Smarty

Smarty — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:36:53 +0000

So the answer is, if we don’t elevate homosexuality in the military, to lower heterosexuality? To make discussions of normal family as verboten as discussions of sucking off strangers in the bushes???

And yes, straight white Christian men are the bulk of the military, the bulk of military and US culture.

And like I said, the moment DADT is removed, there will be liberal Jew lawyers lining up to sue the military for not being gay-friendly enough. And standing behind them will be the ghosts of the USSR, wishing that all this had happened 30 years ago while they were still around to capitalize on our weakness.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:51:21 +0000

Like any gay guy who wouldnâ€™t join teh militay because of DADT alone would join it if it wasntâ€™ there? Please

Thats a very important point, and true I think. Although I reject Smarty’s assertion that only straight, Christian, white males built this country.

Rather than repealed, I think DADT should be weakened and expanded. In other words, the military should discourage everyone from talking about their sex lives at work, the same way its not an appropriate topic for discussion in the business world. But no one should be kicked out for it either. A slap on the wrist will suffice.

By: sonicfrog

sonicfrog — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:58:26 +0000

Hey, I know how we can make everyone happy – allow gays into the military AND keep DADT. Just quietly change the DADT policy mission from “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Torture”!

By: Vince P

Vince P — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:39:32 +0000

smarty: I’m sorta with you.

Why this need to creat upheavel in every aspect of Americans society?

There’s so much shit going on in the world. Like any gay guy who wouldn’t join teh militay because of DADT alone would join it if it wasnt’ there? Please

But I know.. so many gay people stake their entire self-worth on forcing the rest of the country to change the rules to give them warm fuzzy

By: Smarty

Smarty — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:01:29 +0000

#11
And we have all seen how ineffective those militaries have become.

By: Smarty

Smarty — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:00:09 +0000

BTW, how many more qualified ppl would be eligible? How many qualified ppl would refuse to serve because of it? Berthing on ships is tight, with no privacy. It is bad enough that Clinton forced women into combat units/warships, but homosexuals too? Is there ONE aspect of life where PC divirsity/tolerance horseshit isn’t forced on the straight, white Christian males that built this country and who currently maintain it, it’s tax base, it’s social structure and it’s military?

By: Smarty

Smarty — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:54:44 +0000

Sorry, you are wrong on that. Open homosexuality in the military would be destructive. Imagine how many seconds after DADT is abolished before gays start suing for affirmative action in the military, every gay not already promoted to general claiming descrimination. Worse, imagine how many straight 17-19 year old Christian boys refuse to even think of joining.

PS, here is something that makes the argument that gays are just like straights except in the privacy of their bedrooms: http://minx.cc/?post=268263

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:52:56 +0000

Operation “get behind the homos?”

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:59:40 +0000

#10 – Vince, I bet you’d see gay enlistment skyrocket if they announced “all-gay platoons.”

PS: Don’t anyone ever tell you we are all “girly-men.” I have met some wonderful men in uniform from Great Britain to Israel who happen to be gay, and trust me – you don’t want to piss them off. HOO-RAH!

Regards,
Peter H.

By: Vince P

Vince P — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:33:05 +0000

Personally, Iâ€™ve always thought that having an all-gay platoon would be the logical solution. Not to mention the plot for the next Kristen Bjorn video. But I digress.

mmmm nice.

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:45:06 +0000

Personally, I’ve always thought that having an all-gay platoon would be the logical solution. Not to mention the plot for the next Kristen Bjorn video. But I digress.

And wouldn’t it be poetic justice if they were the ones who either (a) captured OBL or (b) took out the Islamofascists who executed summary justice on gays in the Middle East? Roll on, boys!

Along the same lines, I also advocate having all-female platoons, 12 in all. Why twelve? Because when women live together, they start their cycles at the same time. Send ‘em out when they’re all on the same time of month; we could call them the All-Amazon-Brigade.

Just my $0.02, girls.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: tt

tt — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:18:32 +0000

I’ve got sons that are 25 and 29. Both are straight, both have friends that are openly gay. They don’t care. Our youth today DON”T CARE – the majority of them judge on character, not sexual orientation, or race. It gives me hope for the whole of humanity.

By: DoDoGuRu

DoDoGuRu — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:59:32 +0000

What’s so frustrating about the whole thing is that only the bureaucrats and political creatures in the military use DADT against servicemen. Most of my family is military, many of them serving in Iraq, and people actually on the ground really don’t care. They all know who’s gay, but no one actually in the field cares.

Only the brass meddling from a distance give a crap about people being gay.

By: Rocket

Rocket — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:50:08 +0000

I would hope that Congress would use common sense in allowing Gays and Lesbians to openly serve in the Military. It would save millions in not having to enforce “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and solve the recruit gap that has occurred no less save having to discharge qualified linguists and exemplary members of the military simply because they are Gay or Lesbians. No less, we only need to point to all our NATO allies (except Turkey) that allow Gays and Lesbians to openly serve in their country’s military.

By: Rocket

Rocket — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:31 +0000

I hope that the Congress sees that all its NATO allies (except Turkey) all Gays to openly serve in the military. The fact of the matter is that if the federal government allowed Gays and Lesbians to openly serve in the military that it wouldn’t need to relax standards to allow known felons and those with less then proper credentials to serve in the military. Added to that, it would save the government millions of dollars in enforcing “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” and not do stupid things like discharging linguists and qualified military personnel simply because of their sexual orientation.

It makes fiscal sense and practical common sense.

By: NaturallyGay

NaturallyGay — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:33:52 +0000

I was disappointed that Sgt. Manzella was discharged, but not at all surprised. He was discharged nearly a month ago, but I have not seen it covered by the MSM. It seems very odd that it took the military six months to discharge him after the story broke. I was beginning to hope against all odds that maybe they wouldn’t discharge him after all.

I don’t think that this new study on DADT will have much impact. The source is too biased. They seem to have at least made an effort to be non-partisan about the whole effort, but I don’t that will influence those who oppose repealing DADT. The study is too easily dismissed as part of an agenda.

By: Gene in Pennsylvania

Gene in Pennsylvania — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:15:33 +0000

I’m ex Army. And have been gay all my life. But it wasn’t til I was 39 that I really came out. My life in the Army for those two years ‘72-’72,
I was celebate. It was hard but back then I didn’t feel I had any choice. Being a young kid, if I was straight I probably wouldn’t have horsed around either. Young and inexperienced. It’s my opinion that America should move to allowing gays in the military but only after an extensive education program for those currently serving. Lots of straight guys think they can “catch” being gay from homosexuals. Or it grosses them out. An education program that stresses that gays would like to serve their country just like anyone else. And gays can contribute in an equal way on the battlefield would do wonders for acceptance. For most of my life I viewed the military as a closed club or one that should be allowed to accept those they felt comfortable with. They have such an enormous responsiblity, I felt it wasn’t up to a bunch of sissy civilian polititians to tell warriors how to run their business. But now, I know they can do it, they can adjust. They are heroes, they should let all Americans feel the passion for laying it all down in service of one’s country. I’ve heard stories of gays currently serving honorably in Iraq, known to their fellow soldiers. Those kinds of experiences will help as well. It took a Republican to go to China, it may take a Republican to allow gays to serve openly. Would be great if a hero like McCain did it next year.