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July 10, 2008 by GayPatriot

I’m starting to wonder, which Barack Obama will be governing from the White House — if he is elected?

The flip-flop on immediate withdrawal versus adopting the Bush-McCain Iraq plan is too obvious. So let’s go deeper with John Kerry Barack Obama.

Which Barack Obama should I consider voting for in November…..

The Obama who tries to lift up Americans, or the Obama who scoffs at them ?

The Obama who says he will only “tax the rich”, or the Obama who will tax anyone making $32,000 or more?

The September 10th Obama who minimizes the danger to our national security from the sworn enemies of America, or the Obama who sees the “great threat” in our post-9/11 world?

The Obama who rails against the Bush Adminstration for “violating” our civil liberties in their “war on terror”, or the Obama who voted this week for the Bush Administration’s FISA reauthorization plan?

The Obama-Politician who uses his children as political window-dressing, or the Obama-Father who thinks his own decision was bad?

“You know, I think that we got carried away in the moment. We were having a birthday party and everybody was laughing, and suddenly this thing cropped up. And I didn’t catch it quickly enough. And I was surprised by the attention it received, as well… We wouldn’t do it again, and we won’t be doing it again.”

Unless he had to use them to get elected.

Does this man have any inner moral compass to know right from wrong? Or even the ability to make a touch decision without vacillating about it the following day, or within the hour?

I think Rush Limbaugh has it right — Barack Obama is the first black Clinton.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

UPDATE (from Dan): On the FISA flip-flop, John Hinderaker of Powerline writes, “Like everything Barack Obama says, that pledge [to oppose giving retroactive immunity to telecommunication companies] was operative only as long as it was in Obama’s political interest. Last month, he announced a change in position.” That about sums it up, operative only as long as it’s in his political interest.

UP-UPDATE (from Bruce): Karl Rove says it quite nicely.  Obama is the Democrat version of Richard Nixon.

In the primary, Mr. Obama supported pulling out of Iraq within 16 months, called the D.C. gun ban constitutional, backed the subjection of telecom companies to expensive lawsuits for cooperating in the terror surveillance program, opposed welfare reform, pledged to renegotiate Nafta, disavowed free trade and was strongly against the death penalty in all cases. But in the past few weeks, Mr. Obama has reversed course on all of these, discarding fringe liberal views for relentlessly centrist positions. He also flip-flopped on accepting public financing and condemning negative ads from third party groups, like unions.

By taking Nixon’s advice, Mr. Obama is assuming such dramatic reversals will somehow avoid voter scrutiny. But people are watching closely, and by setting a world indoor record for jettisoning past positions, Mr. Obama may be risking his reputation for truthfulness. A candidate’s credibility, once lost, is very hard to restore, regardless of how fine an organization he has built.

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Filed Under: 2008 Presidential Politics, American Self-Hatred, Integrity, Leadership, Liberals, War On Terror, We The People, World War III

Comments

  1. V the K says

    July 10, 2008 at 3:03 pm - July 10, 2008

    The Obama who pledges to only “tax the rich”, or the Obama whose plan would tax…

    …. um, everybody?

  2. Jamie says

    July 10, 2008 at 3:35 pm - July 10, 2008

    Barack Obama is the first black Clinton.

    I think you just insulted the Clintons. I trust Hillary a hell of a lot more than I’d trust this used-car salesman.

    I wish John McClane was running.

  3. V the K says

    July 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm - July 10, 2008

    Democrats preparing to flip-flop on offshore drilling. Will the Obamassiah join them? And how will torrentprime, and the other Democratic mouthpieces adjust their talking points?

  4. Peter Hughes says

    July 10, 2008 at 5:37 pm - July 10, 2008

    #3 – Not quite, V. (Not My) Speaker Pelosi has already said that offshore drilling is a right-wing hoax and will refuse to consider it in the House.

    Not only does she break sharply with Reid in the Senate, but is also intent on driving down her Congress’ 9% approval rating even further.

    Paging the GOP…hello, this is your constituency speaking…why aren’t you making an issue out of this??

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  5. V the K says

    July 10, 2008 at 6:01 pm - July 10, 2008

    So, the Democrats are going to block energy independence, and are pursuing a futile attempt at impeachment. Are they shooting for 4% approval?

  6. Gene in Pennsylvania says

    July 10, 2008 at 6:09 pm - July 10, 2008

    I remember when candidate B Clinton promised a middle class tax cut. But once elected said….”I’ve never worked harder, but I can’t see my way to lowering taxes at this time…” And if you talk to leftists Clinton had and amazing economy. So what makes you think the most liberal Senator in Congress is going to LOWER anyones taxes once he gets elected. Everything, everything is going to be described as MORE horrible than they ever expected once BHO moves into the White House.
    I think I heard today that the new figures are the top 1% of taxpayers pay 78% of all income taxes. The Bahamas has a plan to attract Americas over taxed “rich”. A flat tax plan of a simple 10% for all who move their assets to the island nation. As a member of that elite group, we are seriously talking to each other. When we go, GOOD LUCK to the rabble left behind. Imagine 78% of the federal budget evaporting over night. Keep hammering the “rich”.

  7. American Elephant says

    July 10, 2008 at 6:25 pm - July 10, 2008

    Ah, but Peter, Pelosi also admits that increasing supply will lower prices, albeit unwittingly.

  8. Peter Hughes says

    July 10, 2008 at 6:31 pm - July 10, 2008

    #7 – Anything that half-wit does is unwitting, AE. Why do the American people put up with such incompetence?

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  9. American Elephant says

    July 10, 2008 at 7:51 pm - July 10, 2008

    Because democrats “care” and republicans are “mean!”

  10. ThatGayConservative says

    July 11, 2008 at 1:58 am - July 11, 2008

    Does this man have any inner moral compass to know right from wrong?

    Nobody on the left does, at least not that I’ve ever been able to find. Their “morality” is based on polls (maybe), bumper sticker slogans and other dictats handed down from the DNC, DailyKOSholes etc.

    Their “morality”, of course, is derived from eschewing and/or degrading morality.

  11. rightiswrong says

    July 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm - July 12, 2008

    lol. all the gop cares about are profits. profits over people. profits over people. profits over people.

    but we’re going to get our just desserts. mcsame has ZERO chance of winning in november, and the senate and house majorities will be so large there will be no filibuster threat.

    face it, your hero, george w. bushco, has ruined the republican brand for a generation. get used to the minority repubtards…you’ve earned it.

  12. ThatGayConservative says

    July 12, 2008 at 6:59 pm - July 12, 2008

    all the gop cares about are profits. profits over people. profits over people. profits over people.

    You mean like when Obama promisses to take money away from American’s retirement pensions and 401(k)s and calling it a “windfall profit tax”, which was a colossal failure when it was tried almost 40 years ago?

    Or how about the Pelosis refusing to allow their employees to organize?

    Or how about the Kennedy fortune built off of rum running and bilking poor Mississippians out of their mineral rights?

    Or how about Senate Majority Failure making millions off of shady real estate deals or $68,000 tie to Jack Abramoff?

    Or how about Chucky Schumer’s $1 million in “excessive donations” and $6.4 million improperly disclosed?

    Or how about Sherrod Brown selling weed and coke out of his office?

    Or how about William Jefferson interfering with rescue efforts in New Orleans so he could save his cash?

    I could go on.

    get used to the minority repubtards

    So the democrats, with a current 9% ranking, will take all? The same democrats who haven’t done a DAMN THING in two years will be validated in November? Do you really think the American people are gonna keep believing blue ball democrats pretending to be Americans?

  13. rightiswrong says

    July 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm - July 12, 2008

    sherrod brown fired those individuals immediately who were dealing drugs. do a little research.

    now, let’s talk about mcsame. apparently he wasn’t yet divorced from his first wife before marrying the 2nd. oh, and the 2nd is a drug addict who stole drugs from her own charity, and only got out of charges by bribing her way out of it. we don’t need that filth in the white house.

  14. rightiswrong says

    July 12, 2008 at 8:56 pm - July 12, 2008

    oh, and don’t forget ted stevens, bob ney, bob taft, jack abrahamoff, david vitter, mark foley, duke cunningham. i could go on.

    face it, republicans only care about profits. the people are finally starting to understand this and won’t be swayed by bogus issues like gay marriage and flag pins on the lapel. the gop is a battered brand, thanks to all their filthy ways and led by the most immoral administration in history.

  15. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 12:21 am - July 13, 2008

    Oooh! Oooh! Oooh!
    Let me guess! The lib’s idea of putting the people first would be defending the right to crush a baby’s skull and suck the brains out, but not defending a parent’s right to send their kids to a better school if they want.

    Or how about liberals keeping blacks under crushing poverty and destroying their families all the while making up stories about how Republicans are racist, sexist, bigot homophobes who will “disenfranchise” them at the polls? Meanwhile, the liberals are guilty of exactly that. Not to mention prosecution of their beloved ACORN for voter fraud.

    If that’s how liberals care about the people, I’d seriously hate like hell to see what it would be like if you didn’t.

    we don’t need that filth in the white house.

    If true, that would be just the sort of person the liberals would vote into the Senate or the White House. Just who the do you think you’re foolin’?

    oh, and don’t forget ted stevens, bob ney, bob taft, jack abrahamoff, david vitter, mark foley, duke cunningham. i could go on.

    Oh, we haven’t. You’ll also note their no longer employed in Washington, unlike the corrupt democrats like Clinton, Jefferson, Boxer, Pelosi, Reid etc.. What did Foley have to do with money any way?

    As far as Abramoff, you hope like HELL that nobody knows about the lib ties to his tribal donors. Problem is that the people DO know. For example:

    * Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Received At Least – $22,500
    * Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) Received At Least – $6,500
    * Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) Received At Least – $1,250
    * Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Received At Least – $2,000
    * Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Received At Least – $20,250
    * Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Received At Least – $21,765
    * Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) Received At Least – $7,500
    * Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least – $12,950
    * Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) Received At Least – $8,000
    * Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Received At Least – $7,500
    * Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) Received At Least – $14,792
    * Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Received At Least – $79,300
    * Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) Received At Least – $14,000
    * Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Received At Least – $2,000
    * Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) Received At Least – $1,250
    * Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) Received At Least – $45,750
    * Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Received At Least – $9,000
    * Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Received At Least – $2,000
    * Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) Received At Least – $14,250
    * Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Received At Least – $3,300
    * Senator John Kerry (D-MA) Received At Least – $98,550
    * Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Received At Least – $28,000
    * Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) Received At Least – $4,000
    * Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,000
    * Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) Received At Least – $29,830
    * Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least – $14,891
    * Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Received At Least – $10,550
    * Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) Received At Least – $78,991
    * Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) Received At Least – $20,168
    * Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least – $5,200
    * Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) Received At Least – $7,500
    * Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) Received At Least – $2,300
    * Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) Received At Least – $3,500
    * Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Received At Least – $68,941
    * Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV) Received At Least – $4,000
    * Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) Received At Least – $4,500
    * Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Received At Least – $4,300
    * Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least – $29,550
    * Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,250
    * Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) Received At Least – $6,250

    I can provide more examples of more rampant liberal corruption, if you wish. The fact is that liberals make the Republicans look like pikers. Tom DeLay was indicted for less and he STILL has not had his day in court.

    THE TERRORISTS can demand their day in court, but an American and former House Majority Leader can’t?????

    Think Americans would favor that?

  16. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 13, 2008 at 12:23 am - July 13, 2008

    sherrod brown fired those individuals immediately who were dealing drugs.

    Obviously he didn’t fire them “immediately”, since they were able to do drugs out of his office for quite some time.

    He only fired them when it was revealed to the press that they were doing it. Before that, Brown was perfectly OK to allow it, just as Maria Cantwell was perfectly OK with her gay staffers downloading porn and taking long lunch breaks to have sex with pubeless boys, which they thought was “hot”, prior to it being revealed in the newspaper.

    What the people are starting to realize is that Obama is anti-business and will punish anyone who makes money or is successful, taking their money away from them, bashing them as “corporate”, and giving it to welfare cases like rightiswrong who refuse to work and refuse to get an education.

    The fact that unemployed hatemongers like rightiswrong who refuse to work and insist that all businesses should be destroyed support Obama should tell everyone what they need to know about what Obama wants to do.

  17. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 13, 2008 at 12:24 am - July 13, 2008

    The screamer rightiswrong before insisted that anyone who took money from Abramoff was a criminal, corrupt, and should be put in jail.

    Watch now as the screamer rightiswrong spins and spins and spins and contradicts himself to explain why Democrats who took money from Abramoff are not criminals, not corrupt, and should be kept in office.

  18. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 12:39 am - July 13, 2008

    face it, republicans only care about profits.

    Prove it with factual evidence. Further, provide evidence that the liberal leadership do not. That, or STFU. You’re bothering the adults with your ankle biting.

    the people are finally starting to understand this

    Do you really believe that people are that stupid? Or are you just hoping that they are? The people have long understood that profits aren’t “e-ville”, rather, they are essential. You can’t pay the bills with “hope” and “change” flummery.

    Scram kid. You’re bothering the adults.

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  19. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 12:41 am - July 13, 2008

    And you can bet your crabs, RIW, that the liberals won’t lift a finger to do anything meaningul for the gays. The people understand that too.

  20. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 1:51 am - July 13, 2008

    Now as to the subject at hand, I’m intrigued by the 2 million Hillary supporters who are in this PUMA thing. These “people are finally starting to understand” that they don’t much like the way liberals play politics when one of their own is the brunt of it.

    Supposedly, nearly 18 million people voted for Hillary and if this PUMA group racks up a few million more who refuse to vote for Obama, he could very well have his ass handed to him.

  21. Vince P says

    July 13, 2008 at 2:57 am - July 13, 2008

    TGC: The Puma thing is real.

    I’ve been watching it since the first day… these peole genuiely believe Obama is a fascist and that he is completely unqualified for President and that is being used as a tool by the Dem leadership to have a vastly weakened Presidency and allow the Dem Congress to expand its power.

    This blog is the central listing place for all the groups

    http://www.justsaynodeal.com/

    I get a feed of this blog: http://www.noquarterusa.net/

    It probably has the most rational Democrats I have ever seen on the Internet, I can almost cry tears of relief sometimes .. so happy to know they aren’t all completely deranged.

  22. rightiswrong says

    July 13, 2008 at 11:51 am - July 13, 2008

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  23. rightiswrong says

    July 13, 2008 at 11:56 am - July 13, 2008

    #17: don’t put words in my mouth, ndt. i never said anyone who took money from abramoff should be put in jail…i only pointed out that abramoff is in jail for his crimes.

    let’s face it, the gop lost the senate and house in ’06 due to their slimy ways. sure, there are dems that are slimy too, but you’re fooling yourself if you think the gop’s woes didn’t lead to their downfall.

    and do your research, sherrod brown fired those bad apples in his sec’y of state office and went to the press himself.

  24. Rocket says

    July 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm - July 13, 2008

    I hope that a different NOBama keeps showing up daily. The more he does that, the better a chance McCain has to win. This election is about NObama and is he qualifed to be President…..big FAT NO on that one. NOBAMA has NO core American values (NOBamaba is an extreme leftist Marxist and extreme socialist and that he hides until he gets in)

    McCain needs to be McCain and his campaign staff should stuff their egos and get them elected. Put Mike Murphy on the bus with him, get McCain to speak to his core values….stop having him give speeches (he sucks behind a podium) and make him stick to his core message…he is steady, tested, reliable. McCain is strong on national security, homeland security, as well as basic reform issues (fiscal conservative to cut down on the over bloated budget, reform entitllements, tax cuts to spur the economy) and energy independence. As to Judges, when that issue comes up, keep hitting he is a strict constructionist and you with him you get another Roberts/Alito/Scalia/Thomas.

    and keep at it and don’t stop…..shut down all the surrogates and just Murphy doing the message out of McCain’s mouth only. end of story.

    of course pick a good Veep…..Romney to get Michigan and solidy the Mountain states, (if he really wants to get the women vote and he could…try Kay Bailey Hutchinson..tried and true and she is common sense) or if he needs to go long
    ball…..then a Bobby Jindal…all good choices…

    McCain can do this if he gets rid of the clutter in his campaign with idiot surrogates..gets on the bus and stays on the Straight Talk Express…and keep at it..town hall meetings only. it will work.

    Keep at those themes

  25. Vince P says

    July 13, 2008 at 2:04 pm - July 13, 2008

    #17: don’t put words in my mouth

    Can I put my hairy ass on it?

  26. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 13, 2008 at 3:47 pm - July 13, 2008

    Like I said……watch now as the screamer rightiswrong spins and spins and spins and contradicts himself to explain why Democrats who took money from Abramoff are not criminals, not corrupt, and should be kept in office.

    Meanwhile, for Sherrod Brown, read and weep. Turns out, he didn’t fire the employees in question; he promoted them.

  27. rightiswrong says

    July 13, 2008 at 8:33 pm - July 13, 2008

    bzzt. don’t take the disgrace at its word; it’s a typical republican rag that was out to get brown. i know for a fact, my roommate at the time was one who was fired for dealing drugs. note: he wasn’t a drug dealer, per se, but “organized” joint (no pun intended) purchases. illegal? yes. and he lost his job for it prior to it becoming public. fact.

  28. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 9:20 pm - July 13, 2008

    it’s a typical republican rag that was out to get brown.

    The Columbus Dispatch,Cleveland Plain Dealer and the Ohio Highway Patrol were all out to get Brown??

  29. ThatGayConservative says

    July 13, 2008 at 9:25 pm - July 13, 2008

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  30. V the K says

    July 14, 2008 at 12:09 pm - July 14, 2008

    The more I read riw’s poorly written and worser reasoned rants, the more I find it difficult to believe any company would pay him to do anything.

  31. rightiswrong says

    July 14, 2008 at 4:53 pm - July 14, 2008

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  32. Vince P says

    July 14, 2008 at 5:15 pm - July 14, 2008

    uh oh.. Dr Christmas Jones isn’t feeling respected!

  33. V the K says

    July 14, 2008 at 6:17 pm - July 14, 2008

    “Our worser genius can, shall never melt/Mine honour into lust, to take away
    /The edge of that day’s celebration”

    William Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act IV, scene i.

    Not that I would expect an ignorant troll to know that.

  34. Peter Hughes says

    July 14, 2008 at 6:45 pm - July 14, 2008

    #32 – You have some kind of active imagination, don’t you? Must be all those hours all by yourself with not even a drug-dealing roommate to keep you company.

    You never “predicted” anything of the sort in November 2006. You have confused “hoping” with “predicting.” You weren’t even close in your estimation.

    Suffice to say that you are dismissed.

    And go checkmate yourself.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  35. ThatGayConservative says

    July 14, 2008 at 10:59 pm - July 14, 2008

    Pete, you mean #31.

  36. Peter Hughes says

    July 15, 2008 at 2:58 pm - July 15, 2008

    #35 – Right TGC, it was #31. Mea culpa.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

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