So enforcement of US immigration laws is terrorism to Mr. Obama? Oh my. Such an audacious display of shameless pandering could be admirable, as far as practical politics go, if it didn’t betray the utter cluelessness of the man. Ed Morrissey from Hot Air asks a very pertinent question that the Obamessiah needs to answer:
[I]f that’s what Obama thinks of ICE, why has he done nothing about them during the three years he’s been in the Senate?
Well, Senator, what say you? Surely if ICE has behaved in such a nefarious manner as you suggest they have it would be incumbent upon a man of your position to do something to stop them. What exactly have you done about this, other than campaigning for the highest office in the land after only a year’s experience as a junior senator?
— John (Average Gay Joe)
Given what the Obama Party is already supporting and doing, nothing else could surprise me.
terror: a reaction by those who are breaking the law to those who are enforcing the law. (Democrat temporary meaning dictionary.)
terrorist: one who enforces the law on selected groups — especially undocumented foreign workers to keep them from getting a free pass to vote. (Democrat Useful Meaning Dictionary.)
ICE: a “brown shirt” group of terrorists who concentrate on terrorizing undocumented foreign workers to keep them from getting to vote. (Democrat Useful Meaning Dictionary.)
Soldiers in Iraq: Terrorists who break into homes in the dead of night in order to terrorize women and children. (Democrat Useful Meaning Dictionary.)
Editors of the Democrat Useful Meaning Dictionary: Murtha/Kerry/Obama/Durbin and various and sundry useful idiots in the MSM.
Unfortunately, Joe, it seems there are enough stupid voters out there who would put snObama in office.
I fear for our country’s future.
Regards,
Peter H.
I know the New Yorker claims it’s cover was ‘satire’. But after listening to that speech I’m beginning to wonder……
#4 – Well, Leah, you know what they say. Satire is often found rooted in the truth.
Looks like we found which party has all the racists. And here’s a quick hint: it ain’t the GOP.
Regards,
Peter H.
I’ll help put Obama in the White House where he belongs, and I have as a precinct captain. Great days ahead, as the country moves forward. Unlike Bush, President Obama will be president of the entire country. Even readers and writers of this blog.
A nation of Immigrants looking down at immigration. We came here in the 16th and 17th centuries with no green cards in hand. We dragged people out of their country to make slaves in our land we stole.
What crybabies! Anti-illegal-immigrant fanatics talk about an “invasion”, yet they get so sensitive about “terrorize.”
Pinky Bear, you should write a children’s book.
No we didn’t. The Protuguese and the Dutch did. What’s more, how do you steal something that doesn’t belong to anybody?
Hey! Who you calling anti-illegal-immigrant? What do you think we are? A nation of laws? Heck, your refrigerator has 12 million cockroaches in the insulation and that isn’t an invasion.
“What do you think we are? A nation of laws?”
A nation of laws, to the degree that it makes sense. Make a law against having gay sex, and see how that works. Americans have taken in about 12 million illegal immigrants because our immigration laws don’t make sense. Americans are good people, not fascists, so they would disagree with you that we’re being invaded by cockroaches.
You guys go ahead and enjoy the ICE raids, because come November, we’re going to get amnesty.
“We” did nothing. I have nothing to feel guilty about.
It’s bizarre how when you Left wing freaks talk, you make some threat like “In Novemember we’re going to destroy the West Coast of the USA. HAHAHAHHAH”
I’m more and more convinced every day that a lot of you are demented.
I find it hysterically funny that the MSM is saying that the satire is over the top…well satire is based upon truth..I also find it beyond inane that the article by Mr. Lizza is a homage to NObama and yet that is not mentioned…..given Nobama’s ocmments about ICI being terrorists..isn’t it wonderful he calls his own country terrorists that the satire of the American flag burning in the Oval Office sadly brings back Carter redux the Iranian hostage crisis..a NOBAMA Presidency will end up with the USA being made to look like fools all over the world….Carter promised us honesty in his Presidency and eliminating the misery index..Nobama promises us change and hope….by the time we are done with 4 yrs of him we won’t have change left in our pockets and no hope left……
“In Novemember we’re going to destroy the West Coast of the USA. HAHAHAHHAHâ€
I promise I will not laugh when you cry.
arturo. I said the 12 million cockroaches in the insulation of your refrigerator are not an invasion. If I had any intention of calling illegal immigrants cockroaches, I would have done so. You really should tend to the multitude of tics that infest your thinking. And I remain proudly anti-illegal immigrant.
heliotrope, are you saying anti-illegal-immigrant fanatics don’t talk about an “invasion”? are you serious? are tics infesting your thinking?
I have a better idea; the US should have exactly the same laws on immigration as does Mexico.
In which case, I hereby arrest arturo fernandez as an illegal immigrant for indefinite detention and demand immediate confiscation of all his possessions.
North Dallas Thirty, that was stupid.
Actually, no, arturo; it was quite entertaining, given that leftists like yourself whine about US immigration law as making no sense and being against “human rights”, but inexplicably saying nothing about the harsher Mexican laws.
What I find even more amusing is that Mexico is a Democrat Party wet dream; state socialism, populist mentality, nationalized companies, free healthcare, and whatnot…..yet its people come here by the droves because they are starving to death.
Actually, yes, North Dallas Thirty, it was stupid.
About Mexico. It’s actually its expanding free-market economy that is well on its way to solving its problems:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mexgdp23-2008may23,0,6944412.story
A very significant statistic that no one is talking about is that today the average Mexican woman has two children, while thirty years ago it was six. Their growing free-market economy will keep their stable population in Mexico, with family and in better weather. They will than see a growing number of illegal immigrants in their own Mexico. Their approach to illlegal immigrants, then and now, must be humane, like you don’t want the U.S.’s to be because you have no respect for people.
Their approach to illlegal immigrants, then and now, must be humane, like you don’t want the U.S.’s to be because you have no respect for people.
I love how criminals like arturo who wantonly break US laws insist that others have no respect for them.
You earn respect, arturo. But in your case, since you are a criminal and a supporter of criminals, you will never earn it. You are too lazy and spoiled to follow immigration procedure like millions of people have before you; therefore, since you have nothing but contempt for our laws, you do not deserve their protection or their respect.
Dear That Gay Conservative,
Well, I am sure that the Native Americans who lived here didn’t have the formality of a deed on them when the Europeans showed up. However, they were here first.
Dear Heliotrope,
I will write a Children’s Book and dedicate it to you, sweetheart. I will name a character in it just for you. Just let my agent know where to send it when I am done. I will send you a case. They will make excellent Christmas Presents.
Should send arturo’s ISP to ICE.
Dear Pinko,
If you were as informed and educated, as you pretend to be, you’d be aware that there are many court cases on the books in which the ruling favored the indians rather than the whites as far as land ownership. Also evidence supports that many colonists, once they found out they moved onto indian territory, moved off.
The whole “stealing their land” thing is wrapped up in emotion rather than fact. But, I’m sure, you knew that already.
What’s more, the Spanish were here before the English. Would you say we “stole” America from Spain? Did the Spanish steal from the indians too, or just the white English? How about the French?
Elephant, send them. But they better be cute, or you’ll be wasting my time, and taxpayer’s money.
North Dallas Thirty, that’s already been dealt with above. Any more questions?
Is it humane to have law-abiding American workers at the low end of the income scale have their wages driven down by competition from law-breakers from across the border? Is it humane to have American taxpayers robbed to pay for the services provided to lawbreakers from across the border? Is it humane to let countries like Mexico get away with the massive corruption that impoverishes their own citizens?
The Amnesty crowd has a curious definition of what’s ‘humane.’
I got a fundraising mailer from the McAmnesty campaign today. They’re not getting any money, but I’ll use the pre-paid envelope to give them a piece of my mind.
And Pinky Bear is a despicable and disgusting person, who lacks any basic decency and therefore should be excused from any discussion of what’s humane, since he doesn’t have a clue about humanity.
Sure, if your model of ‘progress’ is the Jimmy Carter era. No thanks.
Nope. The more the merrier – legally that is.
Bet the American Indians are kicking themselves for not enforcing immigration controls.
Who’s this “we” you refer to? I did no such thing nor did my ancestors, most of whom were having a jolly good time with the Brits over in Ireland. If you feel guilty about something, by all means feel free to atone as you see fit but kindly don’t drag the rest of us into this.
So what immigration laws “make sense” to you? No border and anyone who feels like it can come here whenever they wish to? That’s a recipe for our downfall. If you want to make a deal about those here already, I’m okay with that but not at the expense of turning off the spigot with tough border enforcement and yes, ICE raids.
That’ll probably happen regardless of who wins, yet this isn’t the only issue here. What about after these 12 million?
Arturo, it does you no good to lie about Mexico’s policy towards illegal immigrants in their own country. Centroamericanos sin papeles do not find a very pleasant reception from the federales, let alone the Mexican justice system. Unlike the US, Mexico has anti-immigrant sentiment built into their constitution so for them this is more than just arguing about national policy.
The US is the only country that bends over backwards to let other people abuse us.
Everyone I know is sick of it. We’re almost at torches and pitchforks.
#34 – And Vince, don’t forget this undeniable truth of life – liberals love America the way OJ loved Nicole. (H/T Ann Coulter)
Regards,
Peter H.
Ours is a consumer-driven economy. If the consumer wanted to pay more at the grocery store so growers can double or triple the salary of the workers so more Americans would take those jobs, growers would do that. But consumers go to the grocery store wanting to pay less, not more, and so we have illegal immigration. And that actually works very well. Americans who are not going back to less-skilled work are increasing their skills, and that is good for America in so many ways. Forty years ago, over half of US natives did not finish high school. Today even those V the K would have us believe he cares so much about, those at “the low end of the income scale,†are doing much better. Just twenty years ago, a cell phone was a luxury, only for the rich. Today everyone has a cell phone, even illegal immigrants do. As it usually does, the free market is correcting the government’s foolish immigration policy, adding an additional 12 million to this wonderful country called the U S of A.
There’s a good book out now that all you must read, if you really care about this issue and not merely out to satisfy your fascist instincts by viciously attacking illegal immigrants. It’s called “Let Them In” by Jason Riley.
John, how do you figure that I like Mexico’s immigration policy? It’s your side, as North Dallas Thirty’s comments show, that wants to debase the US to Mexico’s level when it comes to immigration policy.
Criminal acts are not good for America.
Nor are the racist beliefs that leftists like arturo are demanding be taught in American public schools.
Finally, this laughable statement.
If the consumer wanted to pay more at the grocery store so growers can double or triple the salary of the workers so more Americans would take those jobs, growers would do that.
Why should unskilled American workers make more than unskilled Mexican workers? After all, if illegal immigrants can afford to eat, buy houses and cars, and have cell phones here while still sending billions of dollars in remittances home, it staggers the imagination that American workers couldn’t live on those salaries.
The jobs will be filled. If there is a shortage of labor, salaries will rise — and furthermore, taxpayers as a whole will save money, since they are no longer required to give free education, welfare, social services, and healthcare to people who are not paying income and property taxes.
Meanwhile, arturo, the fascist here is you, given that you expect honest and hardworking Americans to accept your criminal behavior and your obvious and blatant racism. This is a country of laws, and hatemongering criminals like yourself can’t stand that — which is why you scream “fascism”.
arturo, there are probably two or three billion people who move to the USA in a heartbeat if we let them. Are we obligated to let them all in, regardless of the impact to our culture and our quality of life? Don’t we have the right to decide who we allow into our country and under what circumstances?
Wow. look at what this Fascist Obama is proposing
“Loving your country shouldn’t just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July,†he said in a speech in Colorado Springs, Colo. “Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, our country will be stronger.â€
“I won’t just ask for your vote as a candidate,†he said. “I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I’m president of the United States. This won’t be a call issued in one speech or one program. I want this to be a central cause of my presidency. We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve.â€
He promised to increase AmeriCorps slots from 75,000 to 250,000 and pledged to double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011.
…
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/obamas_call_for_more_public_se.html
This guy is out of his mind. and it’s all unconstitutional.
Wow. look at what this Fascist Obama is proposing
“Loving your country shouldn’t just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July,†he said in a speech in Colorado Springs, Colo. “Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, our country will be stronger.â€
“I won’t just ask for your vote as a candidate,†he said. “I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I’m president of the United States. This won’t be a call issued in one speech or one program. I want this to be a central cause of my presidency. We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve.â€
…
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set,†he said. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.â€
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/obamas_call_for_more_public_se.html
This guy is out of his mind. and it’s all unconstitutional.
Vince — The Obama is just trying force people into thinking that ‘community organizer’ is an actual job.
Oh you poor victim! Maybe Uncle Sugar has another taxpayer funded tit for you to suckle on and make you feel better.
North Dallas Thirty,
“Criminal acts are not good for America.”
Illegal immigrants have been good for America. We should thank them and give them amnesty.
“Nor are the racist beliefs that leftists like arturo are demanding be taught in American public schools.”
I have as much contempt for your useful leftists as for you. Well, more for you.
“Finally…”
So speaking English means nothing? Does at least a high school education compare to no education at all?
“The jobs will be filled”.
Some will but mostly the economy will shrink, hurting everyone. But Americans filling more unskilled jobs means more unskilled and uneducated Americans. Your vicious attack on illegal immigrants is ultimately an attack on the US.
V the K,
Isn’t it curious that illegal immigrants end up where unemployment is low, and isn’t it curious that it almost always stays low or goes lower. Illegal immigrants will not go or stay where they aren’t needed. Of course, with the fence up now they’re stuck here, needed or not. Good job there.
ThatGayFascistConservative,
Fascists do have victims, ultimately it’s their own country. I’m here to stop you, or do my part.
So speaking English means nothing? Does at least a high school education compare to no education at all?
Obviously not, since illegal immigrants seem to be able to do the jobs quite nicely without either.
Unless, of course, you’re suddenly willing to admit that illegal immigrants provide inferior and shoddy labor due to their lack of qualifications.
But Americans filling more unskilled jobs means more unskilled and uneducated Americans.
That is roughly akin to arguing that slavery is necessary so that we don’t have white people dirtying their hands with field work.
“Obviously not, since illegal immigrants seem to be able to do the jobs quite nicely without either.”
So you actually think it makes no difference to know English? And you actually think no education is the same as an education?
“Unless, of course, you’re suddenly willing to admit that illegal immigrants provide inferior and shoddy labor due to their lack of qualifications.”
Employers can make that decision. You side wants the force of government to keep employers from making those decisions.
“That is roughly akin to arguing that slavery is necessary so that we don’t have white people dirtying their hands with field work.”
Except that your side is out to dehumanize illegal immigrants, like whites dehumanized blacks.
“Except that your side is out to dehumanize illegal immigrants, like whites dehumanized blacks.”
Illegals are not supposed to be here, we have a right to control our borders. This McCarthyist tactic of branding anyone who opposes millions of criminals swarming violating American sovereignty as racists is a cheap and easily seen through tactic designed to scare and or marginalize thae majority of the American people who support enforcing border laws. It doesn’t work anymore.
That’s the best you can do? The feeble minded insult of anybody who DARES disagree with a leftist? It goes without saying that you free use of the slander “fascist” shows you haven’t the slightest idea what it means. It just “sounds really cool and evil”, so you throw that shit grenade at anybody who doesn’t accept your premise.
The bottom line, here, is that NOBODY here as well as most of America don’t care if people from Mexico come here to work. What we DO care about is arrogant punks like you who thumb your nose at the country you WANT to come to because your country’s a hole. We care that people willingly violate our laws and have the audacity to tell US that we’re in the wrong.
What’s more, you’re pissing off people who do follow our laws when coming to work here. So you can take your arrogant self-righteous pomposity and cram it up your LULAC pie hole. Nobody wants to hear it.
FYI: My partner of 11 years is from Nuevo Laredo de Taumalipas, so don’t bother going down the road of accusing me of hating Mexicans.
Oh and cut the crap of punishing our Hispanic law enforcement officers for doing their job. If you don’t like our laws, have the balls to become a citizen and work to change them instead of hiding behind others.
Fascism goes hand in hand with collectivism.. which is why collectivists pretend otheriwse.
Mexico is a hellhole, the faster they seal the border the better
How can you argue with that?
Robbing a bank increases your income and causes the bank to rethink its security. The bank should give the robber a bonus.
If illegal immigrants have been good for America, we should have no border at all and become astoundingly great.
Spanish should be the spoken language as it will cause lazy English speakers to take on new challenges for understanding.
I wanna be an illegal immigrant! I don’t want to have to pay taxes or learn the native language of the country I am invading. And what’s all this xenophobic right-wing BS about integrating into the culture? Fie and foo!
So you actually think it makes no difference to know English? And you actually think no education is the same as an education?
Obviously not, since you are arguing that illegal immigrants with neither do the job as effectively as Americans with both.
Employers can make that decision. You side wants the force of government to keep employers from making those decisions.
So the Barack Obama campaign now opposes any restrictions whatsoever on hiring illegal immigrants.
While we’re at it, since you oppose the force of government keeping employers from making decisions, demand the repeal of child-labor laws, antidiscrimination laws, and laws like the ones preventing pedophiles from working with children.
Except that your side is out to dehumanize illegal immigrants, like whites dehumanized blacks.
Given your support for illegal immigrants who defraud American citizens and execute American families, it should be obvious that you treat American citizens as nothing more than animals that you can exploit and slaughter. Your Hispanic racist beliefs dehumanize white people and Americans.
It surprises no one that Barack Obama, with his contempt for the American people, and the Democrat Party, support these racist Hispanics like arturo and protect their criminal preying on American citizens.
“Obviously not, since…”
Obviously you do, since you believe Americans who speak English and have eduction should be going after work where neither English or an education are necessary.
“Given your support for illegal immigrants who defraud American citizens and execute American families…”
Given your support for legal immigrants and American citizens who defraud other American citizens and execute American families, it should be obvious that you treat American citizens as nothing more than animals that you can exploit and slaughter.
“Since you oppose the force of government keeping employers from making decisions…”
You believe government by force should decide if a private company’s workers are doing a good job.
“…demand the repeal of child-labor laws…”
Since you support legal immigrants and American citizens slaughtering Americans, easily you support them using child-labor, discriminating, and keeping pedophiles working with children. And you believe the government should support these things with force.
“Your Hispanic racist beliefs dehumanize white people and Americans.”
Hispanics are not a race, but a mixture of races, which includes white people. The only thing your very strange statement can mean is that what Hispanics do, mix races, threatens a pure white race. And that would make you a racist.
“It surprises no one that Barack Obama…”
Whatever.
ThatGayFascistConservative,
“FYI: My partner of 11 years is from Nuevo Laredo de Taumalipas…”
I don’t care.
“…have the balls to become a citizen…”
You guys are very confused.
Nothing more confusing than #54. You’re so desperate to grab at straws that you don’t even make sense anymore. Nor can you recognize when you’re finished.
Fish out of water flail about less than Arturo.
ThatGayFascistConservative,
It’s not confusing that that you’re confused about my citizenship. And it’s not confusing that I don’t care where your boyfriend is from.
Well apparently it’s clear. If you’re a terrorist, Obama’s your man. He’ll soon be giving Iraq to you. If you’re in the US illegally, Obama’s your man, he’ll soon be giving America to you.
If you’re an American, Obama has something for you too. A hefty tax increase and four years of venomous race relations debate. So much to look forward to.
He also has something else for you. A kick in the butt to learn a new language, so you can communicate with the 12 million Illegal Aliens he’ll be providing blanket amnesty for.
Yeah, that’s CHANGE alright.
At least America is getting a glimpse of the wild eyed liberal he really is, instead of the phony centrist persona his campaign has been painting him to be.
Danny Vice
http://www.theweeklyvice.com