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Slow Blogging/The Sad Debate on Gay Marriage in CA

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 12:00 pm - July 15, 2008.
Filed under: Blogging,Gay Marriage

Shortly after learning last night how advocates of gay marriage intend to contest California’s Proposition 8 (focusing on how the number of the initiative rhymes with “hate”) I learned that some of those supporting the initiative, particularly those behind the website, ProtectMarriage.Com represent the most extreme Christian conservatives.

On the one hand, you have those who refuse to understand some people’s legitimate opposition to gay marriage (see e.g., this post). On the other, you have those who refuse to consider the legitimate religious beliefs of those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior.

Doesn’t look like we’re going to get a very substantive debate on one of the most serious issues of our time (indeed of any time).

I had intended to blog on that, noting that similarity on both sides of the issues–a refusal to understand the arguments of their adversaries. David Blankenhorn and Jonathan Rauch seem to be two of the noble exceptions in this debate.

Not just that. There seems to be a dichotomy between the leaders of each movement and the people they claim to represent. While sensible people offer serious objections to gay marriage, the leaders of the movement seem to have a problem with any who do not accept Jesus as their personal savior. When most gay people who seek to have their relationships recognized as marriage understand the meaning of the institution, the leaders of the movement for gay marriage do not.

Anyway, I have already said more than I had thought I would be able to write today.

Since getting back from Cincinnati, while my mind has been aswirl with thoughts, ideas and images, I’ve really not been in much of a mood to do any more than scribble them down on a piece of paper as a reference for a future e-mail, post or other writing.  That is, I haven’t really felt up to organizing them into a post.

Perhaps, it’s that I’ve been blogging so intensely since March that as per this post, I need to take a break to focus on other things and recharge my batteries (so to speak).

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Open Thread: What if the other guy wins?

Tis a slow news day and Bruce & Dan are off doing, well whatever they do when they’re not online, so I figured this would be a good time for an open thread question.  Besides, I’m having a bit of a bad day anyways…

Just a wee bit of advice for the future: never, ever drive over a recently filled trench on a construction site right after a torrential rain. Not good. Car’s fine but my pride is still in trauma.

So anyways, how about it?  What if the guy you don’t want to be president actually wins this year? What are you most concerned about them doing if they end up in the Oval Office come 2009? Is there anything good you think they might do that your candidate won’t do himself?

Ok, I’m off to the car wash…

— John (Average Gay Joe)

Calif Gay Marriage: It’s All About Love, You Know.

Ooops…. did I say love?   Sorry I meant money.  You know, cold hard cash.  Benefits!  Shared inheritance! 

I wish this emailed press release was a satire, but unfortunately it is not. 

The Legalization of Gay Marriage in California Offers New Opportunity for the Jewelry Industry

NEW YORK, July 14 /PRNewswire/ — There are many reasons for the wedding industry to celebrate California state Supreme Court’s recent decision to overturn a ban on gay marriage.

The Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy at the UCLA School of Law estimates that same-sex weddings could generate up to $683.6 million in additional revenue for the industry over the next three years.

With the current state of the economy, the ruling is particularly good news for jewelers as same-sex couples look to purchase wedding rings and wedding jewelry. Many traditional jewelers have already started to cater to same-sex couples, including Erica Courtney, Catherine Angiel, Furrer Jacot and Neil Lane, who designed Portia de Rossi’s Platinum engagement ring.

Platinum rings are not only the highest quality, but express the importance of a couple’s commitment to each other with the metal that will stand the test of time beyond all other metals.

“As with heterosexual couples, gay couples see their wedding bands as a tangible symbol of their love and commitment to one another,” reports Gay Family Support, a gay-rights organization.

One of the main problems that I have had with the arguments in favor of gay marriage is that the Gay Left has under-stressed love and commitment, and uber-stressed the financial benefits.  Bad idea.

Perhaps if I thought gay activists took the covenant of marriage seriously, I’d be more supportive. 

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Well, If The Mormons Showed Up Shirtless….

Posted by Bruce Carroll at 6:41 am - July 15, 2008.
Filed under: Religion (General),We The People

…maybe I’d consider the LDS Church!

PatriotPartner alerted me to this steamy item.  It was actually in the online version of the Charlotte Observer newspaper.  Mormons Exposed — the calendar!

The 2008 Men on a Mission calendar features twelve handsome returned Mormon missionaries from across the United States who, for the first time ever, have dared to pose bare-chested in a steamy national calendar.

Usually seen riding their bicycles and preaching door-to-door, these hunky young men of faith explode with sexuality on each calendar page. Hand-selected for their striking appearances and powerful spiritual commitment, the “devout dozen” are stepping away from the Mormon traditions of modest dress, and “baring their testimony” to demonstrate that they can have strong faith and be proud of who they are, both with a sense of individualism and a sense of humor.

I’m not quite sure what to think of this — real, satire, little bit of both?

Anyway…. a little-bit of eye candy for you today.  Pass the offering plate!

-Bruce (GayPatriot)