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	<title>Comments on: In Liberal-Speak, is Some Gay Marriage Advocacy Wingnuttery?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/17/in-liberal-speak-is-gay-marriage-advocacy-wingnuttery/comment-page-1/#comment-271241</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22 - Eva, in my corporate workplace, we do not have any unions.  However, top level management does offer DP benefits to same-sex couples and has a non-discrimination policy which includes sexual orientation.

Just FYI.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 &#8211; Eva, in my corporate workplace, we do not have any unions.  However, top level management does offer DP benefits to same-sex couples and has a non-discrimination policy which includes sexual orientation.</p>
<p>Just FYI.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva Young</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/17/in-liberal-speak-is-gay-marriage-advocacy-wingnuttery/comment-page-1/#comment-269362</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey Milk was instrumental in getting Coors Beer out of the gay bars in SF - this got him significant labor support when he ran for City Council (labor in SF was quite anti-gay at the time, though I believe they have mellowed since).  Labor in many other parts of the country continues to be quite anti-gay in their attitudes.  

HRC&#039;s most successful initiative in my view, has been their Corporate Equality initiative.  It would be useful to check on this though - are unionized or nonunionized workplaces more likely to offer DP benefits and to have gay nondiscrimination policies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey Milk was instrumental in getting Coors Beer out of the gay bars in SF &#8211; this got him significant labor support when he ran for City Council (labor in SF was quite anti-gay at the time, though I believe they have mellowed since).  Labor in many other parts of the country continues to be quite anti-gay in their attitudes.  </p>
<p>HRC&#8217;s most successful initiative in my view, has been their Corporate Equality initiative.  It would be useful to check on this though &#8211; are unionized or nonunionized workplaces more likely to offer DP benefits and to have gay nondiscrimination policies?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - Sean, very well put.

#20 - I just threw up in my mouth when I saw the term &quot;sex hippo.&quot;  Fits the Pinkster to a T.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; Sean, very well put.</p>
<p>#20 &#8211; I just threw up in my mouth when I saw the term &#8220;sex hippo.&#8221;  Fits the Pinkster to a T.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17: &quot;Sex hippo&quot;? Reminds me of &lt;i&gt;Meet the Feebles&lt;/i&gt;

If you&#039;re not familiar (and five&#039;ll get you ten you&#039;re not):
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097858/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17: &#8220;Sex hippo&#8221;? Reminds me of <i>Meet the Feebles</i></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar (and five&#8217;ll get you ten you&#8217;re not):<br />
<a href="http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097858/" rel="nofollow">http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097858/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17 &lt;blockquote&gt;Youâ€™re just an annoying imbecile to be swatted away on occasion so that the grown-ups can talk.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean he&#039;s a Leftist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17<br />
<blockquote>Youâ€™re just an annoying imbecile to be swatted away on occasion so that the grown-ups can talk.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean he&#8217;s a Leftist</p>
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		<title>By: DoorHold</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoorHold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... If a corporation (or its owner) takes a stand on a controversial political issue, then consumers remain free to consider that support when they choose whether to buy the corporationâ€™s product. Thatâ€™s called freedom. And ainâ€™t it grand? ...&quot;

 I&#039;ve extended this to &quot;boycotting&quot; entertainers who use their fame to spread political views I find abhorrent.  As with corporations, there are plenty of other choices in the marketplace.

 If a celebrity or a corporation feels the need to take a stand on a controversial subject then I don&#039;t see why I shouldn&#039;t be allowed the same Freedom to take a stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; If a corporation (or its owner) takes a stand on a controversial political issue, then consumers remain free to consider that support when they choose whether to buy the corporationâ€™s product. Thatâ€™s called freedom. And ainâ€™t it grand? &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve extended this to &#8220;boycotting&#8221; entertainers who use their fame to spread political views I find abhorrent.  As with corporations, there are plenty of other choices in the marketplace.</p>
<p> If a celebrity or a corporation feels the need to take a stand on a controversial subject then I don&#8217;t see why I shouldn&#8217;t be allowed the same Freedom to take a stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/17/in-liberal-speak-is-gay-marriage-advocacy-wingnuttery/comment-page-1/#comment-267498</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15: &quot;I speak simply around people who are pretty simple minded.&quot;

Oh, Good Riddance, you poor, pathetic waste of space.  You don&#039;t &quot;speak simply&quot; because the participants on this blog are &quot;simple minded,&quot; and you know that.  Your comments have two different styles.  The first is prattling-off 3-4 laughable conspiracy theories and baseless allegations against the Bush Administration that you either memorized from the bumper stickers on the back of your car or you read off a Code Pink protest sign.  The second is the grotesque, embarrassing way that you try to imitate a sex kitten (although it comes off more &quot;sex hippo&quot; than anything else).  This two-note range of yours has long been understood by everyone on this blog as a sad concession of your inability to engage in legitimate, substantive debate on any issue or to  defend any of your &quot;beliefs&quot; by resorting to facts and principles.  You are too ignorant and stupid to go toe-to-toe with any of the intelligent conservatives on this blog, so your only defense is to change the subject with histrionic lists of allegations that are completely detached from reality, or respond with sad, patronizing flirtation that just makes everyone groan (or throw up in their mouths).  You&#039;re just an annoying imbecile to be swatted away on occasion so that the grown-ups can talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15: &#8220;I speak simply around people who are pretty simple minded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, Good Riddance, you poor, pathetic waste of space.  You don&#8217;t &#8220;speak simply&#8221; because the participants on this blog are &#8220;simple minded,&#8221; and you know that.  Your comments have two different styles.  The first is prattling-off 3-4 laughable conspiracy theories and baseless allegations against the Bush Administration that you either memorized from the bumper stickers on the back of your car or you read off a Code Pink protest sign.  The second is the grotesque, embarrassing way that you try to imitate a sex kitten (although it comes off more &#8220;sex hippo&#8221; than anything else).  This two-note range of yours has long been understood by everyone on this blog as a sad concession of your inability to engage in legitimate, substantive debate on any issue or to  defend any of your &#8220;beliefs&#8221; by resorting to facts and principles.  You are too ignorant and stupid to go toe-to-toe with any of the intelligent conservatives on this blog, so your only defense is to change the subject with histrionic lists of allegations that are completely detached from reality, or respond with sad, patronizing flirtation that just makes everyone groan (or throw up in their mouths).  You&#8217;re just an annoying imbecile to be swatted away on occasion so that the grown-ups can talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15: You mean like when you talk to yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15: You mean like when you talk to yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinky Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Vince,

I speak simply around people who are pretty simple minded. 

Love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Vince,</p>
<p>I speak simply around people who are pretty simple minded. </p>
<p>Love!</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/07/17/in-liberal-speak-is-gay-marriage-advocacy-wingnuttery/comment-page-1/#comment-267239</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinky Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Peter,

You amuse me.  I like you. 

XXOO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Peter,</p>
<p>You amuse me.  I like you. </p>
<p>XXOO</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: isn&#039;t it amusing when the Left, who consistanly maintain a quality of discourse about equal with 6 year olds, get all hot and bothered when someone makes fun of the names of their lunatic leaders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: isn&#8217;t it amusing when the Left, who consistanly maintain a quality of discourse about equal with 6 year olds, get all hot and bothered when someone makes fun of the names of their lunatic leaders?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 - PSU, when your side stops using &quot;Chimpy McHitler,&quot; &quot;Bushco&quot; and &quot;McSame&quot; to discuss policy achievements, then we&#039;ll stop.  Deal?

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 &#8211; PSU, when your side stops using &#8220;Chimpy McHitler,&#8221; &#8220;Bushco&#8221; and &#8220;McSame&#8221; to discuss policy achievements, then we&#8217;ll stop.  Deal?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: PSUdain</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSUdain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John&#039;s right, both sides do it.  A lot.  Everyone decries that with which  he does not agree.  Often more extreme rhetoric is used.

And sure, Pinky tosses playground insults at you.  But when you toss them back, well, then you&#039;re all &lt;em&gt;children&lt;/em&gt; on the &lt;em&gt;same&lt;/em&gt; playground.

As to name-calling in general, is it still just as childish when you bleat out things like &quot;(not my) Speaker Pelosi&quot; or &quot;snObama&quot; or &quot;Harry gReid&quot;?  I mean, seriously, hello pot, please meet your antagonist kettle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8217;s right, both sides do it.  A lot.  Everyone decries that with which  he does not agree.  Often more extreme rhetoric is used.</p>
<p>And sure, Pinky tosses playground insults at you.  But when you toss them back, well, then you&#8217;re all <em>children</em> on the <em>same</em> playground.</p>
<p>As to name-calling in general, is it still just as childish when you bleat out things like &#8220;(not my) Speaker Pelosi&#8221; or &#8220;snObama&#8221; or &#8220;Harry gReid&#8221;?  I mean, seriously, hello pot, please meet your antagonist kettle.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmmm, Big Mac, large fries w ketchup &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; tartar and a vanilla shake. We&#039;ve got some great burger joints up here, but sometimes you just get a craving that nothing but a Big Mac will satisfy. Think I&#039;ll have one tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmm, Big Mac, large fries w ketchup <b>and</b> tartar and a vanilla shake. We&#8217;ve got some great burger joints up here, but sometimes you just get a craving that nothing but a Big Mac will satisfy. Think I&#8217;ll have one tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If Pinko Bear was handling my food,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll take mine in the john of a truckstop before I&#039;d allow that, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Pinko Bear was handling my food,</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll take mine in the john of a truckstop before I&#8217;d allow that, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 - Of course I was joking.  If Pinko Bear was handling my food, I&#039;d let someone like Kevin or rightiswrong taste it first to make sure it was OK.  ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 &#8211; Of course I was joking.  If Pinko Bear was handling my food, I&#8217;d let someone like Kevin or rightiswrong taste it first to make sure it was OK.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6
Nah. McDonald&#039;s has higher employment standards than that.</description>
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Nah. McDonald&#8217;s has higher employment standards than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3: &quot;At last we found out where the Pinksterâ€™s employed. Kind of makes sense given his political position.  Make mine with extra BBQ sauce, please!&quot;

Peter, I pray you&#039;re joking.  You wouldn&#039;t honestly allow that critter to handle your food, would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3: &#8220;At last we found out where the Pinksterâ€™s employed. Kind of makes sense given his political position.  Make mine with extra BBQ sauce, please!&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter, I pray you&#8217;re joking.  You wouldn&#8217;t honestly allow that critter to handle your food, would you?</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please point to a boycott that actually worked? It seems like a waste of time on both sides.

Wouldn&#039;t it make more sense to debate the issue? Guess not, that takes time and willingness to look into the gray areas. Much easier to demonize and boycott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please point to a boycott that actually worked? It seems like a waste of time on both sides.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to debate the issue? Guess not, that takes time and willingness to look into the gray areas. Much easier to demonize and boycott.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Goluskin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark J. Goluskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycotts are pointless. If we boycotted everyone that we did not like, we would probably never leave our homes. This is a proposition on the ballot for a constitutional amendment in California. There will be-surprise-supporters and opponents. I want to know Mr. Manchester&#039;s hotels so I can go to them and will still go to McDonalds. If I am hungry, what wait to find Righty&#039;s Restaurant? If I need a place to stay, must I look for Righty&#039;s Hotel? Of course not! What all this does is take away from the issue at hand. And the opponents of Prop 8 can not win on the merits, they will tear the opponents down. No boycotts, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycotts are pointless. If we boycotted everyone that we did not like, we would probably never leave our homes. This is a proposition on the ballot for a constitutional amendment in California. There will be-surprise-supporters and opponents. I want to know Mr. Manchester&#8217;s hotels so I can go to them and will still go to McDonalds. If I am hungry, what wait to find Righty&#8217;s Restaurant? If I need a place to stay, must I look for Righty&#8217;s Hotel? Of course not! What all this does is take away from the issue at hand. And the opponents of Prop 8 can not win on the merits, they will tear the opponents down. No boycotts, please!</p>
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