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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-293717</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very, very good post, Dan.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very, very good post, Dan.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The big H strikes again on a â€œrationalâ€ conservative site, what a surprise.&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately, Dave, it is gay liberals like yourself who throw hissy fits when people are fired or forced out because of their political beliefs, as well as when groups like the AFA carry out boycotts.

Now, as is obvious, you believe both are acceptable when you practice them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The big H strikes again on a â€œrationalâ€ conservative site, what a surprise.</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately, Dave, it is gay liberals like yourself who throw hissy fits when people are fired or forced out because of their political beliefs, as well as when groups like the AFA carry out boycotts.</p>
<p>Now, as is obvious, you believe both are acceptable when you practice them.</p>
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		<title>By: E.N.</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-292019</link>
		<dc:creator>E.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that the websites make gay life any more fractured than the alternatives for meeting guys, namely bars and clubs. In fact, I think the posturing, preeening, alcohol-induced sensory overload to make me shut down and withdraw into myself far more than any ISP based meeting would. Maybe it&#039;s because I loathe the gay scene and want to reach out to guys without having to deal with the nonsense. As much as I wish for it, there has yet to be a &quot;block&quot; or &quot;delete&quot; button for people in real life, and so much of the time in bars I spend being defensive or otherwise having to &quot;shoot down&quot; unwanted approaches. Perhaps it&#039;s because I don&#039;t drink that I prefer an online chat, followed up with coffee in a neutral, safe 3rd location. The point I guess I am making is that if one is a filthy, lecherous skank, that will come out even without an internet connection; those nasty specimens were the ones who kept bathhouses and sex-clubs in business. Much like we 2nd Amendment believers are wont to say: Guns don&#039;t kill people, people do. You see what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that the websites make gay life any more fractured than the alternatives for meeting guys, namely bars and clubs. In fact, I think the posturing, preeening, alcohol-induced sensory overload to make me shut down and withdraw into myself far more than any ISP based meeting would. Maybe it&#8217;s because I loathe the gay scene and want to reach out to guys without having to deal with the nonsense. As much as I wish for it, there has yet to be a &#8220;block&#8221; or &#8220;delete&#8221; button for people in real life, and so much of the time in bars I spend being defensive or otherwise having to &#8220;shoot down&#8221; unwanted approaches. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t drink that I prefer an online chat, followed up with coffee in a neutral, safe 3rd location. The point I guess I am making is that if one is a filthy, lecherous skank, that will come out even without an internet connection; those nasty specimens were the ones who kept bathhouses and sex-clubs in business. Much like we 2nd Amendment believers are wont to say: Guns don&#8217;t kill people, people do. You see what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-291495</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it does, Dave, since it would involve gay liberals like yourself who namecall religious groups for doing their own boycotting and who whine and cry about people being fired because of their political affiliation suddenly saying that both are totally OK, as you do here. 

In addition, given that gay Democrats like yourself have called politicians who support marriage bans, both state and Federal, as well as employment discrimination against gays, &quot;pro-gay&quot; and &quot;gay-supportive&quot;, your supposed opposition to such things among Republicans is even greater hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it does, Dave, since it would involve gay liberals like yourself who namecall religious groups for doing their own boycotting and who whine and cry about people being fired because of their political affiliation suddenly saying that both are totally OK, as you do here. </p>
<p>In addition, given that gay Democrats like yourself have called politicians who support marriage bans, both state and Federal, as well as employment discrimination against gays, &#8220;pro-gay&#8221; and &#8220;gay-supportive&#8221;, your supposed opposition to such things among Republicans is even greater hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-291453</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Ted, the guy gives money to McCain&#039;s campaign and some who don&#039;t like it end their memberships and take their money elsewhere.  There is nothing wrong with either action, it&#039;s his right to give money to whoever he wants, and customers are free to leave if they disagree.  Are you against free choice?  Have you ever chosen not to purchase a product or keep your money from going to a business that supports something you are very much against?  It&#039;s herd mentality when liberals do it, but when the right does, it&#039;s ok because you are shopping as your conscience directs you to? There&#039;s people on here that won&#039;t even click on the link to a site they disagree with and you attack liberals who choose where their money goes?

Then the board asks him to step down, a business decision.  I guess &quot;let the market speak&quot; is only true when it works in favor of a corporation you support?

The big H strikes again on a &quot;rational&quot; conservative site, what a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Ted, the guy gives money to McCain&#8217;s campaign and some who don&#8217;t like it end their memberships and take their money elsewhere.  There is nothing wrong with either action, it&#8217;s his right to give money to whoever he wants, and customers are free to leave if they disagree.  Are you against free choice?  Have you ever chosen not to purchase a product or keep your money from going to a business that supports something you are very much against?  It&#8217;s herd mentality when liberals do it, but when the right does, it&#8217;s ok because you are shopping as your conscience directs you to? There&#8217;s people on here that won&#8217;t even click on the link to a site they disagree with and you attack liberals who choose where their money goes?</p>
<p>Then the board asks him to step down, a business decision.  I guess &#8220;let the market speak&#8221; is only true when it works in favor of a corporation you support?</p>
<p>The big H strikes again on a &#8220;rational&#8221; conservative site, what a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-290941</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...Did they try to force him off the board...?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Reading between lines of the object-groveling oozing out of Manhunt, his feet didn&#039;t even touch the ground as he was sumarily-ejected out of the boardroom.  

It&#039;s pathetic how desparetely the remaining board-members (incuding his business partner) are attempting to re-legitimise their Leftist-Fag credentials by trumpeting how many times they were arrested at this-and-that demonstartion, and their &quot;Shock&quot; at discovering a Log Cabin Republican **gasp** in their midst.

They pedal porn, casual sex, and feature members&#039; profiles in excruciatinglly-gynecological detail with clear consciences; yet $2300 to a Republican and they go fratricidal within 24-hrs. and retreat in full-grovel-mode in the face of a few &quot;offended&quot; horny gay Dhimmicrats (who probably don&#039;t vote anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;Did they try to force him off the board&#8230;?</p></blockquote>
<p>Reading between lines of the object-groveling oozing out of Manhunt, his feet didn&#8217;t even touch the ground as he was sumarily-ejected out of the boardroom.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetic how desparetely the remaining board-members (incuding his business partner) are attempting to re-legitimise their Leftist-Fag credentials by trumpeting how many times they were arrested at this-and-that demonstartion, and their &#8220;Shock&#8221; at discovering a Log Cabin Republican **gasp** in their midst.</p>
<p>They pedal porn, casual sex, and feature members&#8217; profiles in excruciatinglly-gynecological detail with clear consciences; yet $2300 to a Republican and they go fratricidal within 24-hrs. and retreat in full-grovel-mode in the face of a few &#8220;offended&#8221; horny gay Dhimmicrats (who probably don&#8217;t vote anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-290880</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31: Did you agree before or after the owner of Manhunt gave money to the McCain campaign?

Did they try to force him off the board (I refuse to click on the link to Towleroad or any other GayLeft sites)?

And, assuming it were allowed, how many gay marriages would result from hookups formed at Manhunt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31: Did you agree before or after the owner of Manhunt gave money to the McCain campaign?</p>
<p>Did they try to force him off the board (I refuse to click on the link to Towleroad or any other GayLeft sites)?</p>
<p>And, assuming it were allowed, how many gay marriages would result from hookups formed at Manhunt?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-290757</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Manhunt &quot;Republican scandal&quot; merely demonstrates the rabid intolerance of the Left for anyone who fails to toe the party-line.  The founder, major stockholder and Chairman of the Board at Hanhunt has been forcibly-driven from control of his own company over 2300-dollars.

This just proves both the herd mentality and total lack of reason on the Left...and one major reason I hold them to be a political and civil danger.  Stray away from the herd...or the approved dogma...and it&#039;s off to the guillotine, gas chamber, re-eduaction camp, gulag or rural rice paddies with the non-comformists.  

And they call gay moderates and conservatives &lt;i&gt;self-loathing?....&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Manhunt &#8220;Republican scandal&#8221; merely demonstrates the rabid intolerance of the Left for anyone who fails to toe the party-line.  The founder, major stockholder and Chairman of the Board at Hanhunt has been forcibly-driven from control of his own company over 2300-dollars.</p>
<p>This just proves both the herd mentality and total lack of reason on the Left&#8230;and one major reason I hold them to be a political and civil danger.  Stray away from the herd&#8230;or the approved dogma&#8230;and it&#8217;s off to the guillotine, gas chamber, re-eduaction camp, gulag or rural rice paddies with the non-comformists.  </p>
<p>And they call gay moderates and conservatives <i>self-loathing?&#8230;.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremayakovka</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-290719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremayakovka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. J. Gross wrote: &lt;i&gt;become the men that, in our strongest moments, we want to be&lt;/i&gt;.

&quot;Most imaginative&quot; moments, perhaps. &quot;Strongest&quot; is something else altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. J. Gross wrote: <i>become the men that, in our strongest moments, we want to be</i>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Most imaginative&#8221; moments, perhaps. &#8220;Strongest&#8221; is something else altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: JimG</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-2/#comment-290170</link>
		<dc:creator>JimG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #47, sorry I couldn&#039;t resist the crack (#48).  But your point deserves serious consideration and response.
There are ways to be responsible and smart even if you are playing around in the sexual arena.  And while the risks are greater than if you are monogamous, one can use one&#039;s head about it.
And one CAN be safe and make sure that one doesn&#039;t get HIV.  
One can be stupid or smart here, just like in any other human endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #47, sorry I couldn&#8217;t resist the crack (#48).  But your point deserves serious consideration and response.<br />
There are ways to be responsible and smart even if you are playing around in the sexual arena.  And while the risks are greater than if you are monogamous, one can use one&#8217;s head about it.<br />
And one CAN be safe and make sure that one doesn&#8217;t get HIV.<br />
One can be stupid or smart here, just like in any other human endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: JimG</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-1/#comment-290166</link>
		<dc:creator>JimG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you&#039;re eating Quarter Pounders you can&#039;t be TOO concerned about your health!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you&#8217;re eating Quarter Pounders you can&#8217;t be TOO concerned about your health!!</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-1/#comment-290147</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;itâ€™s like having a great meal with a friend or even just an aquaintance&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well now there&#039;s a good excuse to f*ck around. &quot;It was just a &#039;great meal&#039; with a friend, baby!&quot;.

I don&#039;t know what sort of eateries you patronize, but where I go, there&#039;s a very small chance of getting nasty critters in or on my junk. Last I checked, a Quarter Pounder was not very likely to give you HIV either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>itâ€™s like having a great meal with a friend or even just an aquaintance</p></blockquote>
<p>Well now there&#8217;s a good excuse to f*ck around. &#8220;It was just a &#8216;great meal&#8217; with a friend, baby!&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what sort of eateries you patronize, but where I go, there&#8217;s a very small chance of getting nasty critters in or on my junk. Last I checked, a Quarter Pounder was not very likely to give you HIV either.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that gay men had quick, anonymous sex before there was an Internet.  Tea-rooms, bathhouses, beaches, parks, streets, just about anyplace people could hook up they did,  with gay abandon.

It seems to me that manhunt and its ilk simply facilitate that proclivity--they didn&#039;t create it.  Cruising always involved a certain amount of risk, whether it was physical, e.g., getting beaten up or arrested while cruising in public or emotional--getting snubbed in a bar when your pickup line fell on deaf ears.

Cruising from the perceived safety of ones home computer removes those risks to a certain degree.  To an extent that is the case.  Of course, there is always the chance that an online pick up will turn out badly,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that gay men had quick, anonymous sex before there was an Internet.  Tea-rooms, bathhouses, beaches, parks, streets, just about anyplace people could hook up they did,  with gay abandon.</p>
<p>It seems to me that manhunt and its ilk simply facilitate that proclivity&#8211;they didn&#8217;t create it.  Cruising always involved a certain amount of risk, whether it was physical, e.g., getting beaten up or arrested while cruising in public or emotional&#8211;getting snubbed in a bar when your pickup line fell on deaf ears.</p>
<p>Cruising from the perceived safety of ones home computer removes those risks to a certain degree.  To an extent that is the case.  Of course, there is always the chance that an online pick up will turn out badly,</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally outraged and disgusted by all this Manhunt &amp; Republican scandal.  I am moving my profile to a new site I found.  It&#039;s free and very well laid out.  I like it much better than Manhunt and the staff are really nice and friendly and reply to you MUCH quicker than Manhunt.  I recommend everyone on Manhunt goes here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally outraged and disgusted by all this Manhunt &amp; Republican scandal.  I am moving my profile to a new site I found.  It&#8217;s free and very well laid out.  I like it much better than Manhunt and the staff are really nice and friendly and reply to you MUCH quicker than Manhunt.  I recommend everyone on Manhunt goes here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/12/cultural-implications-of-websites-like-manhunt/comment-page-1/#comment-289945</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that a 3rd from NJ.  Ted, I&#039;d be up for a round of golf sometime, that is if you can stand to play a round with a) a liberal and b) someone who really sucks at golf  (my clubs haven&#039;t been out of the attic in a couple of years).  We&#039;re down here in southern NJ - but not far from Trenton.  Since when is Trenton the sticks? :-)

The substantive comments on this thread have been an interesting read.  I have to say my own opinion is that Manhunt is just less subtle about the venue they are providing.  Gay.com wants you to think they have personals for dating, but I think the reality is that the chatrooms on gay.com are primarily used for hooking up.  Neither of those sites is bad by their existence.  I&#039;m sure people DO find actual dates on both.

That all being said, I really should read the article in question.   I hear it&#039;s devoid of any scientific backup for it&#039;s assertions.  Big surprise. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that a 3rd from NJ.  Ted, I&#8217;d be up for a round of golf sometime, that is if you can stand to play a round with a) a liberal and b) someone who really sucks at golf  (my clubs haven&#8217;t been out of the attic in a couple of years).  We&#8217;re down here in southern NJ &#8211; but not far from Trenton.  Since when is Trenton the sticks? <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The substantive comments on this thread have been an interesting read.  I have to say my own opinion is that Manhunt is just less subtle about the venue they are providing.  Gay.com wants you to think they have personals for dating, but I think the reality is that the chatrooms on gay.com are primarily used for hooking up.  Neither of those sites is bad by their existence.  I&#8217;m sure people DO find actual dates on both.</p>
<p>That all being said, I really should read the article in question.   I hear it&#8217;s devoid of any scientific backup for it&#8217;s assertions.  Big surprise. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally outraged and disgusted by all this Manhunt &amp; Rebuplican scandal.  I am moving my profile to a new site I found called WetLizard.com  It&#039;s free and very well laid out.  I like it much better than Manhunt and the staff are really nice and friendly and reply to you MUCH quicker than Manhunt.  I recommend everyone on Manhunt goes here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally outraged and disgusted by all this Manhunt &amp; Rebuplican scandal.  I am moving my profile to a new site I found called WetLizard.com  It&#8217;s free and very well laid out.  I like it much better than Manhunt and the staff are really nice and friendly and reply to you MUCH quicker than Manhunt.  I recommend everyone on Manhunt goes here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce (GayPatriot)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce (GayPatriot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27, #28 -  My apologies for misunderstanding your point, fnln.

That being said, a restatement of the GayPatriot donations &amp; PayPal account was probably overdue on my part.

So my comment stands as is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27, #28 &#8211;  My apologies for misunderstanding your point, fnln.</p>
<p>That being said, a restatement of the GayPatriot donations &amp; PayPal account was probably overdue on my part.</p>
<p>So my comment stands as is.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; We used to have 6 gay bars here in Trenton NJ that catered to both the local community and the adjacent Princeton Univ. and local college crowd. And the nearby â€œart colonyâ€ of New Hope PA had 2 gay bars and several dance clubs. &lt;/i&gt;

Glad to see there&#039;s someone else from NJ.  Ted, you mean both the Raven and Cartwheel are both closed now?  I&#039;ve been to Trenton only twice (for an NCAA women&#039;s BB tournament game, and to fight a ticket), so I haven&#039;t been to any of the gay bars there.  I thought a bar called Buddies was still open.  

I live in Clifton, and we used to have a gay bar.  Before it was a banquet/restaurant where my parents had their wedding reception, and now it&#039;s a steakhouse.  The closest gay bar is Switch in Boonton.  It&#039;s okay, but a typical gay bar with the typical stuff that tends to happen at gay bars.  There&#039;s also a gay bar near Hackensack.  If neighboring Paterson or Passaic has gay bars they are underground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> We used to have 6 gay bars here in Trenton NJ that catered to both the local community and the adjacent Princeton Univ. and local college crowd. And the nearby â€œart colonyâ€ of New Hope PA had 2 gay bars and several dance clubs. </i></p>
<p>Glad to see there&#8217;s someone else from NJ.  Ted, you mean both the Raven and Cartwheel are both closed now?  I&#8217;ve been to Trenton only twice (for an NCAA women&#8217;s BB tournament game, and to fight a ticket), so I haven&#8217;t been to any of the gay bars there.  I thought a bar called Buddies was still open.  </p>
<p>I live in Clifton, and we used to have a gay bar.  Before it was a banquet/restaurant where my parents had their wedding reception, and now it&#8217;s a steakhouse.  The closest gay bar is Switch in Boonton.  It&#8217;s okay, but a typical gay bar with the typical stuff that tends to happen at gay bars.  There&#8217;s also a gay bar near Hackensack.  If neighboring Paterson or Passaic has gay bars they are underground.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; And Iâ€™ve yet at actually meet someone local-enough and interested in dating. &lt;/i&gt; 

and

&lt;i&gt; But I seem to find plenty of guys interested in dating, even on Manhunt. &lt;/i&gt;

Interesting.  One person who wants to date, but can&#039;t find one on Manhunt, whereas another person who is not ready to date, can find people to date on Manhunt.  

&lt;i&gt; So how do we progress past this juvenile state? Well, Iâ€™m still working on that. LOL But I seem to find plenty of guys interested in dating, even on Manhunt. The problem is on my end. I chafe at intimacy. Itâ€™s something I have to work on. &lt;/i&gt; 

Erik, to paraphrase a cliche that seems appropriate, the biggest part to fixing a problem is recognizing it.  Now you recognize it, and you have the resources to solve it.  Simply decide that you are no longer going to meet people just for sex, and do it.  No more rationalizing of the form, &quot;well, I couldn&#039;t find someone to date this weekend, so I&#039;ll just go out for a hookup&quot; or &quot;I don&#039;t think this guy is dating material, so I&#039;ll just sleep with him, because at least he&#039;s hot, and then bid farewell.&quot;  To use another cliche, I&#039;m afraid this is one of those things that you cannot have your cake and eat it too.  

&lt;i&gt; And those who think it is an emotional experience now like to judge those who donâ€™t.
For some of us, itâ€™s just fun. &lt;/i&gt;

Personally, it&#039;s hard for me to judge it since I don&#039;t quite understand it.  Be it as it may, I suppose it works out well if both of those involved don&#039;t treat sex as an emotional experience.  It saves on the awkwardness, the &quot;polite&quot; or blunt blowoffs, the &quot;is he going to call like he said he would&quot; stuff, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> And Iâ€™ve yet at actually meet someone local-enough and interested in dating. </i> </p>
<p>and</p>
<p><i> But I seem to find plenty of guys interested in dating, even on Manhunt. </i></p>
<p>Interesting.  One person who wants to date, but can&#8217;t find one on Manhunt, whereas another person who is not ready to date, can find people to date on Manhunt.  </p>
<p><i> So how do we progress past this juvenile state? Well, Iâ€™m still working on that. LOL But I seem to find plenty of guys interested in dating, even on Manhunt. The problem is on my end. I chafe at intimacy. Itâ€™s something I have to work on. </i> </p>
<p>Erik, to paraphrase a cliche that seems appropriate, the biggest part to fixing a problem is recognizing it.  Now you recognize it, and you have the resources to solve it.  Simply decide that you are no longer going to meet people just for sex, and do it.  No more rationalizing of the form, &#8220;well, I couldn&#8217;t find someone to date this weekend, so I&#8217;ll just go out for a hookup&#8221; or &#8220;I don&#8217;t think this guy is dating material, so I&#8217;ll just sleep with him, because at least he&#8217;s hot, and then bid farewell.&#8221;  To use another cliche, I&#8217;m afraid this is one of those things that you cannot have your cake and eat it too.  </p>
<p><i> And those who think it is an emotional experience now like to judge those who donâ€™t.<br />
For some of us, itâ€™s just fun. </i></p>
<p>Personally, it&#8217;s hard for me to judge it since I don&#8217;t quite understand it.  Be it as it may, I suppose it works out well if both of those involved don&#8217;t treat sex as an emotional experience.  It saves on the awkwardness, the &#8220;polite&#8221; or blunt blowoffs, the &#8220;is he going to call like he said he would&#8221; stuff, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, no offense but it&#039;s a new day and I&#039;m still not buying Erik&#039;s theory - that we need to explore our sexuality as adolescents with &#039;public&#039; approval and if we&#039;re juvenile and sex-driven, it&#039;s because we were denied that.

Centuries of heterosexuals were denied all opportunity to explore their adolescent sexuality... going straight from puberty (which came later in the olden days) to marriage... and many of them still managed to be loving, mature human beings, not consumed by indiscriminate sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, no offense but it&#8217;s a new day and I&#8217;m still not buying Erik&#8217;s theory &#8211; that we need to explore our sexuality as adolescents with &#8216;public&#8217; approval and if we&#8217;re juvenile and sex-driven, it&#8217;s because we were denied that.</p>
<p>Centuries of heterosexuals were denied all opportunity to explore their adolescent sexuality&#8230; going straight from puberty (which came later in the olden days) to marriage&#8230; and many of them still managed to be loving, mature human beings, not consumed by indiscriminate sexuality.</p>
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