Obama to tap Nebraska’s Hagel as Running Mate?
Sometime last week, i scribbled a note saying that presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama would tap Nebraska’s nominally Republican senior Senator, Chuck Hagel as his running mate. This thought first came to me when I read that next Wednesday night’s theme at the Democratic National Convention, when the party’s vice presidential nominee speaks, will be national security.
To be sure, I’m not the first to speculate that Obama would pick Hagel. That very article listed the Nebraska Republican along with “Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden, D-Del . . . Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island . . . and Sam Nunn, former Georgia senator and one-time Armed Services Committee chairman.”
Given Obama’s thin record on bipartisanship, it might help burnish his self-touted credentials as a new kind of politician if he reached across the aisle for a running mate. And while Hagel has often parted company with his party, particularly in media appearances, he remains a Republican.
Yet, my prediction notwithstanding, speculation runs rampant that Obama will tap Biden as his running mate. While some find Biden a “smart, articulate, and is a bona fide expert on foreign policy,” as asset to the Illinois Senator lacking more depth in foreign affairs (as in so many other things), I’ve never been particularly impressed with his intelligence. (I’ve met the man, nice guy, dim bulb.)
As chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee for the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas, Biden did a good job of reading statements and questions prepared by his staff, but seemed out of his league when attempting to respond to points from the nominees or his fellow committee members. He frequently shows a similar incoherence in media interviews, fine when he’s on message, repeating talking points, but rambling and self-congratulating when he has not been properly briefed on a given issue.
Those sources touting Biden (e.g., this one) are certainly far better connected to Obama and the Democrats than I, so my gut sense about Obama tapping Hagel may be just that. Personally, I think Biden would be more of a liability to Obama than an asset while Hagel could really help the presumptive Democratic nominee.
Only Republicans in Nebraska and those who follow politics closely are aware how often Hagel has parted company from his party. His contrarian record is not widely known, thus the pick would help Obama (at least when he announces) look like a unifying national figure by tapping a member of the opposing part for his ticket.
Had I written this post yesterday, I might have bet on Hagel, but given what I’ve been reading this morning, I’d cancel those bets. Still, from a Democratic perspective, having Obama tap the nominally Republican Nebraska Senator could help his floundering campaign.
Related: The New York Times reports that Obama is Ready to Announce his Running Mate (via RealClearPolitics.)
UPDATE: As to the Biden choice, Patrick Ruffini says bring it on (via Weekly Standard).
UP-UPDATE: Maybe I shouldn’t cancel my bets, just hedge them. I’m now wondering if the Biden story is a head fake, getting everyone buzzing about the choice so the real choice will be more newsworthy.
Let me repeat, Nebraska’s senior Senator would add more to the Democratic ticket than would his Delaware counterpart.
UP-UP-UPDATE: I’m not alone. In the Swampland at Time, Jay Carney asks, “What About Hagel?” (Via RealClearPolitics).
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Chuck Hagel couldn’t get elected dog catcher in my home state of Nebraska. Folks here hope he never comes back, not even to visit. He is worse than a RINO, he can’t be trusted and has been mentally deranged by his service in Viet-Nam. I used to feel sorry for him, but not any more. Obama can have him. Once Democrats see what a creep he is, even they won’t like him. Look how much they love our other twisted liberal ex-Senator, Bob Kerrey.
Comment by ptg — August 19, 2008 @ 2:20 pm - August 19, 2008
Biden’s ego is too big for Obama. Obama needs strength but will go for a lap dog.
Remember when Biden did the hair transplants….now it looks like he has gotten all new veneers….
Sean Hannity said it best “Biden thinks he is the smartest guy in Washington…if you don’t believe me just ask him!”.
Actually Obama just needs to go away…but i digress.
jeb
Comment by jeb — August 19, 2008 @ 2:26 pm - August 19, 2008
It would be great if the sinking “SS Obamessiah” could drag Hagel down too.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 19, 2008 @ 2:30 pm - August 19, 2008
ptg in #1 definitely does not know Bob Kerrey and Chuck Hagel. I know both and neither is twisted, neither is deranged by service in Vietnam.
But to the point of my comment. I would love to see Chuck Hagel on Obama’s ticket but it won’t happen…Chuck is pro-life and the Democratic base won’t accept him. It’s the same thing across the aisle. Tom Ridge, former Governor of Pennsylvania, would be a great running mate for McCain but he’s pro-choice and the Republican base won’t accept that.
Comment by Jack Allen — August 19, 2008 @ 2:34 pm - August 19, 2008
If he picks Biden, all the McCain campaign will have to do is run those clips of Biden talking about how inexperienced Obama is. Oh, and the clips of how “clean and articulate” Obama is. Definitely sit back and eat popcorn time. If he pics Bayh, the nutroots will lose it (they already have been), and it won’t get him anything — he doesn’t have a chance at swinging Indiana, with or without Bayh. Kaine would likewise drive the Kos Kidz nuts. Obama is stuck. He needs votes from the center, but if he picks a more centrist running mate, he betrays the rabid left. If he goes with a leftist running mate, he alienates the centrist vote.
Comment by rightwingprof — August 19, 2008 @ 3:11 pm - August 19, 2008
Jack, just curious, do you support Obama?
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 19, 2008 @ 3:12 pm - August 19, 2008
Michael Medved just made a similar comment, that Obama won’t choose anyone who will outshine him.
Meanwhile, the ticket to his event at the Stadium in Denver has our flag upside down. A well known distress symbol, left over from the days when that was the only way a ship in distress could signal others that they were in trouble. Glad to see that Obama feels he is on a sinking ship.
Comment by Leah — August 19, 2008 @ 4:08 pm - August 19, 2008
I know both of ‘em, Jack. Hopalong is an admitted baby-killer and Chuck is a defeatist.
Comment by ptg — August 19, 2008 @ 4:41 pm - August 19, 2008
Biden is not going to help Obama, he is not going to deliver a state for him at all. The only reason I see them picking Biden is because they are noticing that this Russia conflict is boosting McCain, so they hope having someone with foriegn experience will curtail that effect. Problem is, no one is going to go in the voting booth and punch a hole, pull a lever, or touch a screen for Joe Biden.
Obama should be pick Hillary, she would actually help him in. One the reasons Obama is underperforming is because he is holding around about 80% percent of the Democratic Base while McCain has closer to 90%. That 20% is probably a majority of Hillary supporters who are withholding support for various reason, who would come out and vote soley for her on election day. I think Obama’s post convention bump might be stalled out if he picks Biden and then throughout the convention we see Hillary on the top of her game and Bill on his, a lot of democrats will be annoyed at why she wasn’t picked.
Comment by Darkeyedresolve — August 19, 2008 @ 4:58 pm - August 19, 2008
Michael Medved just made a similar comment, that Obama won’t choose anyone who will outshine him.
I don’t think Biden would outshine him. The bigger danger is that Biden would out-talk him. During the confirmation hearings for Roberts (I think it was Roberts) Biden had five minutes to ask Roberts questions, but Biden only ended up asking two because he spent almost the entire time prattling on and on about his great concerns for the future of… something. God, who knows. Biden can spend hour talking and say nothing.
Comment by sonicfrog — August 19, 2008 @ 5:13 pm - August 19, 2008
I can just hear Biden’s speech: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
Given Biden’s other gaffes, one wonders if the choice of him means that the Obama campaign is believing their own propaganda and thinking that adding Biden will attract all those other white people who must be racists, since they’re not supporting the Obamamessiah.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 19, 2008 @ 5:44 pm - August 19, 2008
A llittle off-topic, but Obama at Saddleback a couple days ago:
OK lefties: so Obama is different/better for gays… umm… how again?
Well, McCain only opposes the Federal anti-marriage amendments (believing States should decide the matter), while Obama opposes both State and Federal anti-marriage amendments. But wait. How can you simultaneously oppose both gay marriage and *every* effort to prevent gay marriage? The Messiah must be insincere, in one direction or the other. Which? No one knows. We’re supposed to
guess, oops I mean “hope”, that he secretly favors us, wink wink, while pandering to those others. But is the Messiah sincere about anything?Meanwhile, McCain, for all his many faults, at least can be counted on to defend America from Islamo-fascism. Unlike Obama, McCain doesn’t alternately threaten to invade nuclear powers who have not attacked any of their neighbors (Pakistan) and coddle would-be nuclear powers who have promised to attack their neighbors (Iran). That we do know. And a sensible, consistent defense against Islamo-fascism is something every gay should feel personally invested in.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 19, 2008 @ 5:51 pm - August 19, 2008
Oooh, Dale Carpenter agrees with me: “Obama is winking and nodding to both sides.”
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 19, 2008 @ 6:12 pm - August 19, 2008
Hagel hasn’t actually endorsed Obama. And despite Hagel’s lip service to the anti-war crowd, he is solidly conservative and has a voting record that proves that through and through on every issue.
It’d be similar to McCain picking Lieberman but I think McCain would have a better shot pulling that off than Obama picking Hagel. The far left has a more rigid litmus test for candidates than the far right does.
Comment by Gay Midwest Republican — August 19, 2008 @ 6:12 pm - August 19, 2008
It’s the same thing across the aisle. Tom Ridge, former Governor of Pennsylvania, would be a great running mate for McCain but he’s pro-choice and the Republican base won’t accept that.
The same Tom Ridge who horribly mismanaged the Department of Homeland Security? The same Tom Ridge who opposed the rebuilding of America’s strategic deterrent capabilities under Reagan? Who opposed aid to the contras? The same Tom Ridge who excoriated the Elder Bush for seeking a cut in the capital gains tax?
Besides his fondness for killing babies in the womb, the low-tax, strong national defense Republican base has plenty of reasons not to like Ridge.
Comment by V the K — August 19, 2008 @ 7:01 pm - August 19, 2008
I have clear, inside, deep cover knowledge that Obama has narrowed it down to Michelle or his grandmother for Veep. The smart money is on grams, because he needs Michelle as ambassador to Clintonia. He is tapping Hagel as White House short order cook. The big surprise is Michael Moore as press secretary and official Helen Thomas escort. Trust me. I know stuff.
Comment by heliotrope — August 19, 2008 @ 7:25 pm - August 19, 2008
ptg, in #7, you really take the cake. You go over to the air show in Bellevue and come home in awe of young military personnel yet you ridicule Bob Kerrey as “hopalong” which is obviously a reference to him having just one leg. In case any of those reading this blog don’t know why, Bob lost his leg in Vietnam, where his bravery won him the Congressional Medal of Honor. (And ptg: don’t repeat that malicious lie that Bob threw the medal away).
And #5: In answer to your question, I honestly don’t know. I’ve been active in the Republican Party since I was in high school and held a national post in the Young Republicans. I participated in some way in every Republican presidential campaign beginning with Nixon’s in 1960 (four years before I could vote in a presidential election) through Bush’s re-election in 2004.
But I intensely dislike John McCain — have for years, ‘tho I do respect his military service — and cannot vote for him. The issue for me is whether I don’t vote for anyone in November or I make the leap to support Barack Obama. ANd it would be a leap based on faith because I have a lot of questions about him and a lot of doubts.
But some very successful businessmen I respect very much have convinced me he is not a Marxist nor even a socialist, although I know most of you will disagree on that point. Some senior military officers I respect very much have convinced me he can be trusted as commander in chief. And some lifelong evangelist Christians I respect very much have convinced me he is a good man we can trust.
As a Christian myself I deeply respect Obama’s Christianity. Too many Christians in the “religious right” focus just on the fact that CHrist died for our sins and through Him we might have eternal life. Obama also focuses on Christ’s life and his teachings that we must serve the poor, the oppressed and the forgotten.
Still, I don’t know how I will vote in November. I am anxious to see how Obama has handled his selection of a running mate. If it’s Bill Richardson, all bets are off and I’ll sit on my hands in November. If it’s one of several others, it’s possible I might vote Democratic for president for the first time. I don’t know. (At least my best friend is sharing the same torment.)
Comment by Jack Allen — August 19, 2008 @ 7:41 pm - August 19, 2008
I keep hearing and seeing MSM pundit-types touting former Sen. Sam Nunn. **shiver…my dyslexic fingers just typed “Dam Ninni”** If Obama selects Nunn, will the G/L delegates and G/L Dhimmicrats walk-out….or even complain? Nah, the DNC treats the G/L community like a pink ATM…push the gay hot-buttons in the right order and money comes out, regardless of whether the DNC earned it, it’s just entitled to it with no accountability for performance.
I’m going to laugh my face off if Obama selects Nunn while his G/K supporters gag.
Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — August 19, 2008 @ 8:19 pm - August 19, 2008
I’m not sure I’d feel safe if Biden were my VP. That is one power hungry mofo.
the same way you can simultaneously ‘oppose’ live-birth abortion and every effort to make it illegal.
Comment by American Elephant — August 19, 2008 @ 9:25 pm - August 19, 2008
As I was typing that Mark Levin just said that Biden told reporters, “you guys have better things to do, I’m not the guy”
Comment by American Elephant — August 19, 2008 @ 9:27 pm - August 19, 2008
“Nah, the DNC treats the G/L community like a pink ATM…push the gay hot-buttons in the right order and money comes out, regardless of whether the DNC earned it, it’s just entitled to it with no accountability for performance.”
VERY well put, Ted B. One wonders if the GLBT communities realize that they are being taken for patsies at a poker game.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 19, 2008 @ 10:13 pm - August 19, 2008
Chuck Hagel (R-France) and Tom Ridge (R-TSA)? Talk about sucking all the light from the room. So tired…
Comment by Robert — August 19, 2008 @ 10:34 pm - August 19, 2008
I’m not sure how BHO gets out of this box….he needs a VP who doesn’t outshine him, gives him gravitas, stays in the background, and helps win a state. Who fits that bill? I can’t find anyone. Bayh is a vanilla dud, Kaine more unknown and unqualified than BHO, Hillary would create huge buzz and enthusiasm but you get a co co co Presidency. Barack is in a big pickle. Hagel causes a lefty riot, Kerry would kiss BHO’s feet for the job but why add a boring loser to the ticket. Gore is too fat and rich now to play second fiddle. Nunn? Everyone would say…. who? MIchael Moore suggested Caroline Kennedy…which would typically make a mockery of the whole Democrat process. Sebelious of Kansas…adds what? The only choice I see is Richardson, despite his reputation for being a cad and masher of women. He boosts hispanic votes to 65-75% for the Dem ticket which makes it hard for McCain to win then. Bush got 35-40% in the 00 and 04 elections to win. BTW I see McCain’s choices equally unappealing. It does seem America’s best and brightest aren’t in politics right now. At least at the highest levels. The only McCain choice that would excite me are Rice or Romney. And I worry about the anti Mormanism in the country and the media.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 19, 2008 @ 10:37 pm - August 19, 2008
#20
I think you make a lot of good points, Hagel would cause several problems within the party. The VP is the next in line for the president, both in the if the president dies and when running in elections. I think it would further drive away the Dem base and the party if he picked someone who is a Republican. I liked Evan Bayh, I think Obama needs a plain canidate who won’t draw attention away or bring unwanted attention. Evan Bayh would be better than Biden for that, at least Evan Bayh doesn’t say stupid things…and could help Obama take Indiana.
I think McCain has a much harder time in picking his running mate, he has to have someone who pleases the party but also doesn’t hurt him in appealing to moderates. I think Rice would be awesome but I think Bush’s high negatives makes it very hard for him to pick her. I hope she runs some time in the future though, possible in 2012 or 2016. I really don’t know enough of the Republican party to offer suggestions, but I heard McCain wanted to make his anouncement in Ohio. Could be an ohio politican or just emphasizes the battle ground state…
Comment by Darkeyedresolve — August 19, 2008 @ 11:36 pm - August 19, 2008
It’s interesting who’s not on the list. Ohio Governor Ted Strickland would seem a natural choice, since flipping Ohio would win Obama the presidency. Maybe they’re a little concerned about elevating a guy who kept a child molester on his staff. That kind of thing doesn’t play well outside the Democrat party.
Comment by V the K — August 20, 2008 @ 8:30 am - August 20, 2008
Drudge is now breaking the news that Joe Lieberman will address the RNC convention. I wonder if he will switch parties come 2009? Better yet, he can remain independent and caucus with the GOP in the Senate.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 20, 2008 @ 10:56 am - August 20, 2008
Gene in Pennsylvania is so very right about the choices Obama can’t afford. Is it my imagination or has the left been fairly silent on promoting anyone? When you look at all the candidates for the nomination, they have all managed to prove their looniness, been pasted with a scandal or outshine the guiding light of their party.
Since Chris Matthews gets a leg tingle from the Obamessiah, I think he is a natural for the job. He clearly adores the man. He can rat-a-tat-rapid-rap about the man through any interview session. He is all delivery with no concern for substance. He has experience as the admiral of a fleet of one canoe. And he does not detract from the Obamessiah. A perfect pick for a Chauncey “Chance” Gardiner candidate.
Comment by heliotrope — August 20, 2008 @ 11:39 am - August 20, 2008
Better yet, he can remain independent and caucus with the GOP in the Senate.
Joe Lieberman supports partial-birth abortion, nationalized health care, massive environmental regulation, and activist judges. (He voted against Roberts and Alito.)
While he would fit in well with liberal, northeastern, country-club RINOs like Snowe, Collins, and Specter… let’s not get any mistaken ideas about his real politics. On every issue but the GWOT, he’s a solid left-liberal Dem.
Comment by V the K — August 20, 2008 @ 11:47 am - August 20, 2008
Now that Joe Lieberman is speaking at the RNC Convention, the Democrats are trying to get a Republican senator who agrees with most of their agenda to speak at their convention. Unfortunately, John McCain is busy that week.
Comment by V the K — August 20, 2008 @ 12:06 pm - August 20, 2008
ptg really takes the cake. He goes to an Air Force air show and comes home nearly in awe of our young servicemen and women. But he distorts Chuck Hagel’s medal-winning service in Vietnam. And he ridicules Bob Kerrey as “hopalong”, an obvious reference to the fact Bob is missing a leg. For those readers who don’t know, Bob Kerrey lost his leg in Vietnam and won the Congressional Medal of Honor. (And ptg, don’t repeat the malicious lie that Bob threw away his medal.)
Comment by Jack Allen — August 20, 2008 @ 1:10 pm - August 20, 2008
to ilovecapitalism: you asked if I support Obama. I must be honest; I don’t know yet.
I intensely dislike John McCain — have for years, ‘tho I greatly respect his military service — and cannot vote for him under any circumstances. But voting Barack Obama is a leap I’m not yet sure I am ready to take.
Comment by Jack Allen — August 20, 2008 @ 1:29 pm - August 20, 2008
#26 - Who is ptg?
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 20, 2008 @ 1:40 pm - August 20, 2008
Hagel is a most unimpressive person and politician. He is a far cry fromm being a national security expert and other than wander the halls of the capitol he has accomplished very little. Both his personal and academic life are very sterile and he certainly isn’t a Republican. How the good people of Nebraska managed to find and elect this dolt defies logic.
Comment by rplat — August 20, 2008 @ 2:51 pm - August 20, 2008
We’ve still got a long time to go before election day. But if you are convinced that Barack is imploding check out the latest RealPolitics.com
electorial map when states leaning are included. McCain wins today. Who’d have thunk it. If you include the fact that many polls are “registered voters”instead of likely voters (likely voters, Republicans add 3-4%). And the 4% racial pad included in polling of Barack. And you get an incredible landslide for McCain. He wins Kerry states like MN, MI, PA, NH, CO. And he wins formerly close states like OH, FLA, VA, NC, going away. Someone has to tell me which Bush states BHO is going to win? McCain has been defining Barack. Even with a one week lovefest coming up that may temporarily staunch the bleeding, how do the Dems rescue themselves? This professional political party picked a nominee who had no clothes. POOF he’s gone.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 20, 2008 @ 2:52 pm - August 20, 2008
And today the Democrat run Congress gets a 9% approval rating. When you include the margin of error it could really be 5%. Start to rethink the MSM mantra about a Dem congressional blowout in November as well. Now a half brother of Barack has been found who is living on $1 a month. Didn’t BHO quote the Bible last week about helping our “brothers”, and helping the least of us. Was it just talk or……He can get his brothers address by contacting Vanity Fair. I would even fly him in for the Democrat Convention and pay for a hot meal for him.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 20, 2008 @ 2:56 pm - August 20, 2008
Yeah, it was John Kerry. And, by his account, he was proudly throwing away someone else’s medals. But given the combined similarity of name (Kerry / Kerrey) and party, I don’t blame people for confusing the two guys. IOW, no need to accuse anyone of malice.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 20, 2008 @ 4:15 pm - August 20, 2008
The SnObama’s rambling, incoherent, pause-filled diatribes (Rush has at least 7 min of his “uhs,” “umms,” “eehs” and sighs from ONE speech) makes GWB look like a Shakespearean actor.
McCain is going to clean B. Hussein Obama’s clock in the debates.
Funny how when Bush speaks in pauses and hesitations, it is a mark of his “ignorance.” Yet when SnObama does it, he is being “reflective” and “careful.”
Hypocrisy, thy name is liberalism.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 20, 2008 @ 4:19 pm - August 20, 2008
Click here for Kerry on throwing away his medals.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 20, 2008 @ 4:20 pm - August 20, 2008
Peter H…when I asked a Democrat friend a couple months ago for some specifics of why he backed Obama …the only thing he came up with was…..”well I just want a President I can understand who can articulate 3 sentences in a row”. Without a teleprompter, wow was he wrong eh? Have you noticed BHO’s constant use of “yaa oh” instead of “you know”?
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 20, 2008 @ 5:17 pm - August 20, 2008
And don’t forget to say hi to the Snob’s brother in Kenya. The one that SnObama “forgot” about.
Of course, this is not the brother he thought he knew.
And bringing it up will not help Michelle’s kids any.
Wonder if he knows to keep his tires inflated? Or if his children should learn Spanish?
Am I missing anything else from the Snob’s words of wisdom?
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 20, 2008 @ 5:20 pm - August 20, 2008
#34 - Gene, you should either download Rush’s clip of SnObama’s ramblings, or find his unscripted talks on YouTube to prove your point.
But then again, everyone knows that libtards only believe what they want to believe. Which is why liberalism is a mental disorder.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 20, 2008 @ 5:21 pm - August 20, 2008
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/08/20/barack-better-ambien
Did you all see this newsbusters piece on how Obama’s audience isn’t fainting anymore they are nodding off. It’s a hoot.
The bloom seems to be off. And I think it’s because BHO really has nothing to say. With the Democrat Congress approval rating at 9%, how soon before the lefties start jumping off bridges and buildings? Barack has gotten 80% of the positive media attention. But now his campaign has begun a long slow decline to the Gore Kerry Dukakis Mondale ditch.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 20, 2008 @ 8:23 pm - August 20, 2008
Well Gene, let’s hope. I mean, let’s not get cocky.
(BTW, personally I don’t support McCain; he’s done too many things I disagree with. But between him and Obama and Barr and Nader, he’s the one I have the least negative feeling about. So I sort of hope he wins, in that sense.)
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 20, 2008 @ 8:52 pm - August 20, 2008
ILC I’m not in love with McCains politics either. As a military man I can say he is a true hero though. But a difference between Republicans and Democrats we really don’t want an inexperienced commander in chief at this delicate time. The Dems think it’s fear mongering but we really are worried about safety and national security. Carter gutted the military and it took Reagan to rebuild America’s standing thru the peace through strenth initiative. Clinton again hacked away at military spending post cold war, and Bush 43 had to assert Americas power for good around the world. I don’t think we can afford the peaceniks again. 3,000-30,000 lives might be at risk.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 20, 2008 @ 11:09 pm - August 20, 2008
If things continue to go badly for Hopey McChange, will Democrats realize that Operation Chaos actually could have saved their party? Hillary would be running away with the election at this point.
Comment by V the K — August 21, 2008 @ 7:31 am - August 21, 2008
#40 - I doubt it. Dhimmicrats aren’t the brightest bulbs in the lamp.
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 21, 2008 @ 11:08 am - August 21, 2008
Speaking of dim bulbs, whatever happened to Good Riddance, Kevin and LeftisWrong?
Regards,
Peter H.
Comment by Peter Hughes — August 21, 2008 @ 4:58 pm - August 21, 2008
#42 I really think the leftist bloggers we get in here aren’t too prepared to fight and argue. They don’t come very prepared with facts and aren’t very good at debating. Like BHO, it doesn’t take them long to wheel and turn into full blown retreat. Remember that was the best thing John Kerry did during the time he served in Vietnam. Wheeling in retreat.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 21, 2008 @ 9:03 pm - August 21, 2008
#42: “Speaking of dim bulbs, whatever happened to Good Riddance, Kevin and LeftisWrong?”
Obviously they were rounded up and taken to those gay extermination camps they kept screaming about. If only we had listened.
Comment by Sean A — August 23, 2008 @ 8:02 am - August 23, 2008
Perhaps they know the SS Obamessiah is sinking.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 23, 2008 @ 11:55 am - August 23, 2008