I know some reliable Democrats here in Pennsylvania who roll their eyes and say they won’t be voting for Obama. They don’t say why. You can assume it is his lack of experience or his race.

Why? I mean, why would one assume it is his race, unless they do say that’s why? Or alternatively, unless they have a history of telling you racist things in the past?

V the K, in my view, it’s not racist. And anyone else who has those views may or may not be racist. If they are, it has nothing to do with these issues.

I should also point out that I was more specifically talking about those who would vote not vote for Obama only because he is Black. Most Republicans and conservatives would not belong to this grouping, since there appears to be plenty of reasons for this group to not vote for Obama anyway.

Agree. And you know what? There will also be people voting for Obama because he is black. And I know that, for real, because they have told me. IOW, I have good evidence.

ILC, good point. And I agree with you. The two groups in question may, in fact, cancel each other out.

I believe voting for Obama BECAUSE he is black is not only stupid, but racist as well. The idea that the mere color of Obama’s skin will somehow impart something positive to America through his Presidency that a white man’s Presidency would lack necessarily legitimizes the opposite idea: that the color of Obama’s skin might have some intangible negative effect on the country through his Presidency. Sorry, these well-intentioned liberals don’t get to have one without the other. If the Democrats never brought up race again in this election, we would never hear about race again in this election. It’s that simple. They could turn all this off for good if they wanted to, but they just CANNOT let go of their obsession with skin color.

I’m making a guess from a whole population that there will be some persons [voting against Obama because he is black].

Agree. And you know what? There will also be people voting for Obama because he is black. And I know that, for real, because they have told me. IOW, I have good evidence.

1) On a radio show, I heard impromptu interviews with young people (of various races) who said they were voting for Obama, and couldn’t offer any positive reason for doing so other than the fact that he’s black.

2) Two close relatives each told me, roughly, “My main reason for supporting Obama is that I think having a black President would be positive for the world”. Translation: They’re voting for him because he’s black.

Where I’m going with this:

- Providing an example of somebody (in this case, me) having actual evidence for people’s intentions, rather than making it up from assumptions.

- Making the point that whether you vote for somebody because of race or against, it is equally stupid.

- Making the point that we have people in America doing both. And (this is just my guess, now) they will probably cancel each other out, – or may be even end up a net plus for Obama. So if he loses, come November, it won’t be because Americans are racist; it will be because he really lost.

Good point, ILC. I may well be guilty of such prejudice. However, I am not pointing out any individuals, since I don’t personally know of anybody who will not vote for Obama only because he is Black. I’m making a guess from a whole population that there will be some persons.

It’s kind of like saying that upon meeting someone, I won’t prejudge them as a murderer. But, unfortunately, there will be a certain percentage of U.S. citizens within the next year that will, in fact, commit murder. I just hope that it is as close to zero as possible.

And in case I need to point this out, I am not comparing murderers to racists, murderers to people who won’t vote for Obama, and again I state that I’m not saying that anyone who does not vote for Obama is racist. Far from it, in fact.

It appears to me that there will be some people who won’t vote for Obama because he is Black. No proof, no channeling, just gut instance. Just as there were some people who did not vote for Kennedy because he was Catholic. I would be surprised if anyone here believes that there are no racists in this country left and/or believes there are, but won’t let their racism influence their vote.

Following liberal logic is such a fun adventure. You never know the crazy places you’re going to end up.

I’m afraid the liberals don’t corner the market on horrendous logic skills. Nowhere in Jack Allen’s post did he say that a vote against Obama says the person is racist. Certainly you could question why he thinks that’s the case for the persons he spoke about. And you could question that if he’s right about these people, why he hangs out with them.

But I contend that there will be some people that will not vote for Obama only because he is Black. I have no way of knowing how many or what percentage. Hopefully, it will be close to zero percent, so that it isn’t race that determines the election. Then again, I also hope it’s not going to be all the silly sound bites, the lies, and the manipulation that determines the election either.

Fine by me, call me a racist, I still won’t vote for Obama.

I still don’t know if I’m voting for Obama. I feel like it’s 2000 all over again, where I don’t like either candidate. If I don’t end up voting for Obama, I couldn’t give a rat’s @$$ if anyone regards me as racist.

Oh, man. There is nothing better than when we get to see a liberal transform into a cartoon parody of a liberal before our very eyes. This comment is like a hug from Jesus. It’s the perfect mix of ignorance, irony, falsehood and irrationality all rolled into one perfect sentence. I pray that I’ll be able to squeeze the entire embroidery onto ONE side of a pillow. It just won’t work as a flipper.

I have A LOT of questions and comments for Jack Allen. Here’s two:

(1) Jack, why are you hanging out with racists “every day”?

(2) Jack, don’t let anyone criticize you for trusting those razor-sharp instincts of yours. You have every right to conclude that someone is a racist even where all the objective evidence is to the contrary. It makes perfect sense and I can’t think of anything more rational and logical. Of course, the bad news is that it puts you on the exact same intellectual level as people who conclude (again, all objective evidence to the contrary) that a person with darker skin is inferior, less capable and probably a criminal (you know…racists!)

Following liberal logic is such a fun adventure. You never know the crazy places you’re going to end up.

Wow, Jack, I had no idea you were psychic. Can you channel dead babies like John Edwards?

Also, the radical feminists are never going to follow the centrist BHO. He will have to show his extreme left true identity before they will vote social issues over safety.

jeb

Even more amusing is if the DNC shows their true Klan colors (white) and Obama winds up going home in the testicle lock box.

The picture of this race will begin to show after the Conventions, this is Obama’s chance to restart his campaign to go into the fall. But like in the primary, Obama tends to be a poor closer.

The issues important to the middle class favor Barack Obama .

I’m not aware of folks in the middle class who favor exporting jobs at what could be record levels.

As much as no one wants to admit it, more than a little of the opposition to Obama is racial.

The Messiah is NOT qualified to be president and His liberal policy prescriptions are nothing new. I don’t think I’m the only one sick and f-ing tired of being labeled “racist” for opposing a politician who happens to be black.

I will admit this: part of my opposition IS racial. If Barry is elected president, every one who dares voice any disagreement will be branded a racist. The idea of four (surely not eight) years of “you must be a racists for opposing [liberal policy] will do great damage to the republic.

If Barry were a conservative Republican, this wouldn’t be an issue.