Comments on: The “Revelatory Blunder” of the Biden pick http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:26:21 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: V the K http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298901 V the K Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:17:28 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298901 <blockquote>As to why the Republicans wouldn’t pick Ridge, being that he’s pro abortion, well, so is Romney; it’s amazing no conservatives care about that.</blockquote> Ridge's baggage isn't just abortion, although that's a big deal. His management of DHS was the stuff of bureaucratic-incompetence legend. He was also a foreign policy dove who opposed missile defense and the Reagan Era defense build-up. Romney went from the wrong side of the abortion issue to the right side, and has a reasonably compelling story of how his view changed. It resonates with me because I remember exactly when and why I pivoted on abortion. He gives McCain an outside shot at winning Michigan, and shores him up in Colorado and Nevada... two states McCain needs very much.

As to why the Republicans wouldn’t pick Ridge, being that he’s pro abortion, well, so is Romney; it’s amazing no conservatives care about that.

Ridge’s baggage isn’t just abortion, although that’s a big deal. His management of DHS was the stuff of bureaucratic-incompetence legend. He was also a foreign policy dove who opposed missile defense and the Reagan Era defense build-up.

Romney went from the wrong side of the abortion issue to the right side, and has a reasonably compelling story of how his view changed. It resonates with me because I remember exactly when and why I pivoted on abortion. He gives McCain an outside shot at winning Michigan, and shores him up in Colorado and Nevada… two states McCain needs very much.

]]> By: David M http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298601 David M Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:18:30 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298601 The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2008/08/web-reconnaissance-for-08252008.html" rel="nofollow"> Web Reconnaissance for 08/25/2008 </a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often. The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 08/25/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298558 Peter Hughes Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:19:28 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298558 Michael Medved is floating Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison as veep. Although I like her both personally and politically, I don't think she brings much to the ticket except her gender. Plus, it's a badly-kept secret here in Texas that she wants to run for governor in 2010. And given Gov. Rick Perry's negatives, she just may bump him out of the GOP primary. My money's on Romney. He'd floor Biden in the debates. Regards, Peter H. Michael Medved is floating Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison as veep. Although I like her both personally and politically, I don’t think she brings much to the ticket except her gender.

Plus, it’s a badly-kept secret here in Texas that she wants to run for governor in 2010. And given Gov. Rick Perry’s negatives, she just may bump him out of the GOP primary.

My money’s on Romney. He’d floor Biden in the debates.

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: heliotrope http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298544 heliotrope Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:06:53 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298544 Mitchell, I think Romney would keep the whole abortion issue on a back burner. McCain has a steady pro-life record, so Romney does not need to do anything more than he already has. McCain said that the economy is not his strongest suit and that he would rely on good advisors. Romney would fill that bill nicely. But Romney's strongest asset is as a vigorous person who could take the reins if need be. A lot of Republicans are not real excited about their candidate and one often unmentioned worry is whether he is a lame duck because of his age. Romney helps diffuse that. All that said, McCain may pick Hillary. Who knows? Mitchell, I think Romney would keep the whole abortion issue on a back burner. McCain has a steady pro-life record, so Romney does not need to do anything more than he already has. McCain said that the economy is not his strongest suit and that he would rely on good advisors. Romney would fill that bill nicely. But Romney’s strongest asset is as a vigorous person who could take the reins if need be. A lot of Republicans are not real excited about their candidate and one often unmentioned worry is whether he is a lame duck because of his age. Romney helps diffuse that.

All that said, McCain may pick Hillary. Who knows?

]]> By: Mitchell Blatt http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298447 Mitchell Blatt Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:15:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298447 Biden wasn't so bad as Republicans want and hope to make him out to be. With his experience especially in foreign policy matters, being on the foreign policy committees, he gives Obama just a little bit of credibility on his weakest points. I think Romney would kind of be a Biden pick. Both Romney and Biden are boring and flawed, but they both fill an important need, Romney's being the economy. As to why the Republicans wouldn't pick Ridge, being that he's pro abortion, well, so is Romney; it's amazing no conservatives care about that. Biden wasn’t so bad as Republicans want and hope to make him out to be. With his experience especially in foreign policy matters, being on the foreign policy committees, he gives Obama just a little bit of credibility on his weakest points.

I think Romney would kind of be a Biden pick. Both Romney and Biden are boring and flawed, but they both fill an important need, Romney’s being the economy.

As to why the Republicans wouldn’t pick Ridge, being that he’s pro abortion, well, so is Romney; it’s amazing no conservatives care about that.

]]> By: Darkeyedresolve http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298391 Darkeyedresolve Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:31:42 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298391 I agree with you on how there were much better picks Obama could have made but it shows what kind fo weak willed person he is. He wasn't going to chose Hillary because his hard core supporters hate her so much, he just caves in. I am not really sure why he didn't go with Evan Bayh or Kaine, both have more experince than Obama and could have possibly delivered a state for him. They were just reacting to the polls and Obama's obvious weakness rather than looking forward or even doing what is best for their electional chances. Though honestly, people vote for the president and not for the vice president...it will always just be about Obama and McCain. I would say the only time this might not apply is with Hillary Clinton's shadow over the election: there is little doubt that some would vote for her...or her 2012 election. I agree with you on how there were much better picks Obama could have made but it shows what kind fo weak willed person he is. He wasn’t going to chose Hillary because his hard core supporters hate her so much, he just caves in. I am not really sure why he didn’t go with Evan Bayh or Kaine, both have more experince than Obama and could have possibly delivered a state for him. They were just reacting to the polls and Obama’s obvious weakness rather than looking forward or even doing what is best for their electional chances. Though honestly, people vote for the president and not for the vice president…it will always just be about Obama and McCain. I would say the only time this might not apply is with Hillary Clinton’s shadow over the election: there is little doubt that some would vote for her…or her 2012 election.

]]> By: GayPatriotWest http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298372 GayPatriotWest Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:58:17 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298372 Hey, Ted, I'm with you on Pawlenty. I think he'd be the best for McCain. . . Hey, Ted, I’m with you on Pawlenty. I think he’d be the best for McCain. . .

]]> By: jimmy http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298272 jimmy Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:34:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298272 "As a McCain supporter, I breathed a sign of relief when I heard Obama had picked Clinton. Of the names floated, I had thought Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Nebraska Republican Chuck Hagel and Delaware Senator Joe Biden would have been his strongest picks." As if much preparation was actually needed... “As a McCain supporter, I breathed a sign of relief when I heard Obama had picked Clinton. Of the names floated, I had thought Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Nebraska Republican Chuck Hagel and Delaware Senator Joe Biden would have been his strongest picks.”

As if much preparation was actually needed…

]]> By: Ted http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/24/the-revelatory-blunder-of-the-biden-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-298262 Ted Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:25:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=3482#comment-298262 Despite the Dems and the allied main stream media’s desperation to see Romney as McCain’s Veep, Mitt is clearly out, with (1) Obama doubling down on the class warfare theme (McCain’s 7 houses) and (2) McCain doubling down with ads showing the hypocrisy of Biden attacking Obama in the primaries — Romney did way more than that contra McCain. This leaves only Govs Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty. Pro-abortion Ridge and Dem-Lieberman were never real considerations, despite relentless media goading. Pawlenty’s lackluster TV performances, coupled with Palin pizzazz, the primacy of oil drilling and the ticked off women/Hillary voters, does now portend a McCain/Palin checkmate on the Dems. This is so albeit the Dems and liberal media dare not mention Palin’s name, that is, everyone but….. And if there’s any question as to Palin being uniquely positioned and able to more than nullify Biden in debate, see the excellent discussion at palinforvp.blogspot.com Team McCain, well done!!! Despite the Dems and the allied main stream media’s desperation to see Romney as McCain’s Veep, Mitt is clearly out, with (1) Obama doubling down on the class warfare theme (McCain’s 7 houses) and (2) McCain doubling down with ads showing the hypocrisy of Biden attacking Obama in the primaries — Romney did way more than that contra McCain.

This leaves only Govs Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty. Pro-abortion Ridge and Dem-Lieberman were never real considerations, despite relentless media goading. Pawlenty’s lackluster TV performances, coupled with Palin pizzazz, the primacy of oil drilling and the ticked off women/Hillary voters, does now portend a McCain/Palin checkmate on the Dems. This is so albeit the Dems and liberal media dare not mention Palin’s name, that is, everyone but…..

And if there’s any question as to Palin being uniquely positioned and able to more than nullify Biden in debate, see the excellent discussion at palinforvp.blogspot.com

Team McCain, well done!!!

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