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	<title>Comments on: Joe Biden:  Not a &#8220;Game Changer&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-299341</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 - That is a great example to use when GayLeftLibs start chiding us for being conservative.  After all, if the DNC can dump all over a former VP candidate for being honest, what does that bode for the rest of the lockbox votes?

The SnObama is exactly the same as McCain when it comes to same-sex marriage and other GLB issues.  So why vote for him anyway?  I guess old (DNC) habits die hard.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 &#8211; That is a great example to use when GayLeftLibs start chiding us for being conservative.  After all, if the DNC can dump all over a former VP candidate for being honest, what does that bode for the rest of the lockbox votes?</p>
<p>The SnObama is exactly the same as McCain when it comes to same-sex marriage and other GLB issues.  So why vote for him anyway?  I guess old (DNC) habits die hard.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says Palin and Hutchison lack qualifications?  I don&#039;t grant that.  Either Hutchison or Palin would have much stronger qualifications than Obama.  And, unlike Obama-Biden, the most qualified guy would still be at the top of the ticket.  So McCain can still run &quot;Do you want President Obama handling the 3am call?&quot; ads, a la Hillary.  Obama still won&#039;t be able to run the reverse on McCain.  And if Obama tries to run it on Palin or Hutchison, people will be bored to death.

Bottom line, if McCain wants to actually win this thing, he should go with whoever is better suited / qualified of the 2 gals, Palin and Hutchison... it gives the Republican base someone reasonably conservative, AND it gives Hillary supporters a reason to switch to McCain that they can feel thrilled about.  And we know how important feelings are to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says Palin and Hutchison lack qualifications?  I don&#8217;t grant that.  Either Hutchison or Palin would have much stronger qualifications than Obama.  And, unlike Obama-Biden, the most qualified guy would still be at the top of the ticket.  So McCain can still run &#8220;Do you want President Obama handling the 3am call?&#8221; ads, a la Hillary.  Obama still won&#8217;t be able to run the reverse on McCain.  And if Obama tries to run it on Palin or Hutchison, people will be bored to death.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if McCain wants to actually win this thing, he should go with whoever is better suited / qualified of the 2 gals, Palin and Hutchison&#8230; it gives the Republican base someone reasonably conservative, AND it gives Hillary supporters a reason to switch to McCain that they can feel thrilled about.  And we know how important feelings are to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13: And speaking of Ferraro, it took 25 years but how fantastic was it to see her get her ass handed to her by her own party when she made the mistake of suggesting that Obama&#039;s success was based solely upon the affirmative action policies of the Democratic Party (the same policies that put her on the map)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13: And speaking of Ferraro, it took 25 years but how fantastic was it to see her get her ass handed to her by her own party when she made the mistake of suggesting that Obama&#8217;s success was based solely upon the affirmative action policies of the Democratic Party (the same policies that put her on the map)?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-299030</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 - But ILC, you are missing the point.  What good is it if we put a woman on the ticket, regardless of her qualifications?  I mean, the Dhimmicrats put Ferraro on the ticket in 1984, and she brought absolutely ZERO to the table except her gender.

I would like to think that we as Republicans would be better than that.  Remember, it&#039;s not WHAT a person is - it is WHO that person is.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 &#8211; But ILC, you are missing the point.  What good is it if we put a woman on the ticket, regardless of her qualifications?  I mean, the Dhimmicrats put Ferraro on the ticket in 1984, and she brought absolutely ZERO to the table except her gender.</p>
<p>I would like to think that we as Republicans would be better than that.  Remember, it&#8217;s not WHAT a person is &#8211; it is WHO that person is.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-298986</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I donâ€™t think she brings much to the ticket except her gender&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah... but that is a lot.  Look, a lot of swing voters and Hillary supporters are going to feel bad if they don&#039;t vote for the black guy (no matter how terrible a candidate he is).  McCain has to make those voters feel great about voting for McCain.  If McCain puts a woman on the ticket (Hutchison or Palin)... that&#039;s a game-changer.  Game over, in fact.  McCain picks up a solid 5-10% of women and that will be decisive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I donâ€™t think she brings much to the ticket except her gender</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah&#8230; but that is a lot.  Look, a lot of swing voters and Hillary supporters are going to feel bad if they don&#8217;t vote for the black guy (no matter how terrible a candidate he is).  McCain has to make those voters feel great about voting for McCain.  If McCain puts a woman on the ticket (Hutchison or Palin)&#8230; that&#8217;s a game-changer.  Game over, in fact.  McCain picks up a solid 5-10% of women and that will be decisive.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-298952</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 - TGC, although I like Kay both personally and politically, I donâ€™t think she brings much to the ticket except her gender.  Her voting record is conservative for the rest of the nation, but moderate-to-liberal for the Texas GOP.

Also, if McCain taps her as VP, it may send out a signal to the Dhimmicrats that Texas is in play (even though it&#039;s not) and they will send hordes of unwashed masses to my home state to barrage us with pro-Obama ads.

Good thing we Texans have a concealed-weapons law.  But I digress.

Plus, itâ€™s a badly-kept secret here in Texas that she wants to run for governor in 2010. And given Gov. Rick Perryâ€™s negatives, she just may bump him out of the GOP primary.

One more thing - since when do we in the GOP engage in identity politics? Isn&#039;t that what the Dhimmicrats do?

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 &#8211; TGC, although I like Kay both personally and politically, I donâ€™t think she brings much to the ticket except her gender.  Her voting record is conservative for the rest of the nation, but moderate-to-liberal for the Texas GOP.</p>
<p>Also, if McCain taps her as VP, it may send out a signal to the Dhimmicrats that Texas is in play (even though it&#8217;s not) and they will send hordes of unwashed masses to my home state to barrage us with pro-Obama ads.</p>
<p>Good thing we Texans have a concealed-weapons law.  But I digress.</p>
<p>Plus, itâ€™s a badly-kept secret here in Texas that she wants to run for governor in 2010. And given Gov. Rick Perryâ€™s negatives, she just may bump him out of the GOP primary.</p>
<p>One more thing &#8211; since when do we in the GOP engage in identity politics? Isn&#8217;t that what the Dhimmicrats do?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaine was the only one I really concerned about Obama picking.  Such a choice might have been enough to turn Virginia blue.  If polls are to be believed, my state is only barely in McCain&#039;s column.  The thought of Virginia helping Obama sickens me, but then I only have one vote.  Pity I don&#039;t live in Chicago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaine was the only one I really concerned about Obama picking.  Such a choice might have been enough to turn Virginia blue.  If polls are to be believed, my state is only barely in McCain&#8217;s column.  The thought of Virginia helping Obama sickens me, but then I only have one vote.  Pity I don&#8217;t live in Chicago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He doesnâ€™t pick a woman, or a fellow minority like Richardson, or even a republican.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe Obama was afraid because none of those people look like the guys on the dollar bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He doesnâ€™t pick a woman, or a fellow minority like Richardson, or even a republican.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe Obama was afraid because none of those people look like the guys on the dollar bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkeyedresolve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkeyedresolve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is anyone surprised by the lack of movement? Joe Biden is just another white, old guy in the senate...one of those runs every election. Obama talked about Regean but doesn&#039;t follow his example and pick Hillary, why is it so hard? He picks her, unites the party and would probably win the election based on their combined strengths. No, he caves in his hardcore, rapid, supporters who hate her and decides to go it safe and boring. 

He doesn&#039;t pick a woman, or a fellow minority like Richardson, or even a republican. I don&#039;t see anything about him that would bring meaningful change to the political system, just a new party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is anyone surprised by the lack of movement? Joe Biden is just another white, old guy in the senate&#8230;one of those runs every election. Obama talked about Regean but doesn&#8217;t follow his example and pick Hillary, why is it so hard? He picks her, unites the party and would probably win the election based on their combined strengths. No, he caves in his hardcore, rapid, supporters who hate her and decides to go it safe and boring. </p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t pick a woman, or a fellow minority like Richardson, or even a republican. I don&#8217;t see anything about him that would bring meaningful change to the political system, just a new party.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-298809</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Kay Bailey Hutchison? I saw some sort of recommendation for her on NewsMax. She did survive Ronnie Earle-fong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Kay Bailey Hutchison? I saw some sort of recommendation for her on NewsMax. She did survive Ronnie Earle-fong.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-298720</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Biden - as I said earlier, he has truly wonderful foreign policy expertise. Such a wise, knowledgeable man. Ed Morrissey provides us a sample:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-foreign-policy-chops/

(/sarc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Biden &#8211; as I said earlier, he has truly wonderful foreign policy expertise. Such a wise, knowledgeable man. Ed Morrissey provides us a sample:<br />
<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-foreign-policy-chops/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-foreign-policy-chops/</a></p>
<p>(/sarc)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/25/joe-biden-not-a-game-changer/comment-page-1/#comment-298718</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin would pry loose some more Hillary supporters for McCain and change the game.  I hope she&#039;s as good as her reputation, and (if so) I hope McCain goes with her.  But it doesn&#039;t look like he will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin would pry loose some more Hillary supporters for McCain and change the game.  I hope she&#8217;s as good as her reputation, and (if so) I hope McCain goes with her.  But it doesn&#8217;t look like he will.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I read, the more I&#039;m liking Sarah Palin.  The only thing I can find taht the Dems might use against her is experience, but she list has more than Obma, so I&#039;m not sure effective that could be.  Otherwise, it seems like a perfect fit:

-Executive experience as mayor and gov
-Respected on energy issues
-Pro-life, pro-gun member of feminists for life
-Working class background (her husband is a commercial fisherman)
-Gov of only state that borders Russia

Plus, she&#039;s signed pro-gay legislation.  What&#039;s not to like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read, the more I&#8217;m liking Sarah Palin.  The only thing I can find taht the Dems might use against her is experience, but she list has more than Obma, so I&#8217;m not sure effective that could be.  Otherwise, it seems like a perfect fit:</p>
<p>-Executive experience as mayor and gov<br />
-Respected on energy issues<br />
-Pro-life, pro-gun member of feminists for life<br />
-Working class background (her husband is a commercial fisherman)<br />
-Gov of only state that borders Russia</p>
<p>Plus, she&#8217;s signed pro-gay legislation.  What&#8217;s not to like?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Durio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Durio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice that the selection of Biden brings &quot;experience&quot; to Obama&#039;s ticket. Why, just eight years ago, Cheney brought &quot;gravitas&quot; to Dubya&#039;s ticket! But Dubya had far more governmental experience than Obama does. Why not use the &quot;G&quot; word now? Oh, that&#039;s right. Obama and Biden are extreme liberals, as are 75% of the dumb masses in the MSM, if not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice that the selection of Biden brings &#8220;experience&#8221; to Obama&#8217;s ticket. Why, just eight years ago, Cheney brought &#8220;gravitas&#8221; to Dubya&#8217;s ticket! But Dubya had far more governmental experience than Obama does. Why not use the &#8220;G&#8221; word now? Oh, that&#8217;s right. Obama and Biden are extreme liberals, as are 75% of the dumb masses in the MSM, if not more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with you Dan GPW.

A lot of Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton on the ticket but that was never in the cards.  She would not have been happy as Number Two to a man she almost beat for the nomination.  And Obama would not have been comfortable having Hillary (and Bill) in the White House.

Obama is not comfortable in an attack mode and, like some other tickets in past elections, that job has to be handled by the running mate.  As much as I admire Indiana&#039;s Evan Bayh, he&#039;s simply too low key, too nice, to go on the attack.

Governor Kaine of Virginia has been on the national scene less time than Obama.  You, other conservative bloggers, the McCain campaign, etc., would have dumped on Obama had he picked Kaine.

Biden is an ideal pick.  He&#039;s a Catholic from a middle class family in eastern Pennsylvania whose record in the Senate will appeal to the blue collar white (and heavily Catholic) voters who supported Hillary but are leery of Obama.  His record in the Senate will also appeal to many of the Democratic women who backed Hillary and are not yet sold on Obama.

As he demonstrated in his speech Saturday in Illinois, he can attack the Republican ticket with humor.

I&#039;ve liked Biden for a long time and had Hillary not run, I would have been very happy to be a &quot;Republican for Biden&quot;.  My respect for Biden was reinforced when the death of California Congressman Tom Lantos showed the very human Joe Biden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with you Dan GPW.</p>
<p>A lot of Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton on the ticket but that was never in the cards.  She would not have been happy as Number Two to a man she almost beat for the nomination.  And Obama would not have been comfortable having Hillary (and Bill) in the White House.</p>
<p>Obama is not comfortable in an attack mode and, like some other tickets in past elections, that job has to be handled by the running mate.  As much as I admire Indiana&#8217;s Evan Bayh, he&#8217;s simply too low key, too nice, to go on the attack.</p>
<p>Governor Kaine of Virginia has been on the national scene less time than Obama.  You, other conservative bloggers, the McCain campaign, etc., would have dumped on Obama had he picked Kaine.</p>
<p>Biden is an ideal pick.  He&#8217;s a Catholic from a middle class family in eastern Pennsylvania whose record in the Senate will appeal to the blue collar white (and heavily Catholic) voters who supported Hillary but are leery of Obama.  His record in the Senate will also appeal to many of the Democratic women who backed Hillary and are not yet sold on Obama.</p>
<p>As he demonstrated in his speech Saturday in Illinois, he can attack the Republican ticket with humor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve liked Biden for a long time and had Hillary not run, I would have been very happy to be a &#8220;Republican for Biden&#8221;.  My respect for Biden was reinforced when the death of California Congressman Tom Lantos showed the very human Joe Biden.</p>
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		<title>By: V teh K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V teh K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Obama is the most liberal member of the US Senate. Joe Biden is the third. Number four is avowed Socialist Bernie Sanders. That should tell you something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Obama is the most liberal member of the US Senate. Joe Biden is the third. Number four is avowed Socialist Bernie Sanders. That should tell you something.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Townhall has linked a great article by John Fund as to why Biden got picked.  In essence, it had to do with Russia invading Georgia that forced The SnObama&#039;s hand.

Read the article &lt;a href=&quot;http://townhall.com/blog/g/1de692f3-52c1-4d27-89ec-c212174b5e72&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;  If anything, it shows that The Snob is a milquetoast.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Townhall has linked a great article by John Fund as to why Biden got picked.  In essence, it had to do with Russia invading Georgia that forced The SnObama&#8217;s hand.</p>
<p>Read the article <a href="http://townhall.com/blog/g/1de692f3-52c1-4d27-89ec-c212174b5e72" rel="nofollow">here.</a>  If anything, it shows that The Snob is a milquetoast.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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