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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-hillarys-speech-from-one-who-didnt-see-it/#comment-299687</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 - Bullseye!

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 - Bullseye!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4: This, from someone who doesn't even bother to read a blog post right in front of his face before commenting with whatever idiotic leftist slogan pops into his head at any given moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4: This, from someone who doesn&#8217;t even bother to read a blog post right in front of his face before commenting with whatever idiotic leftist slogan pops into his head at any given moment.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-hillarys-speech-from-one-who-didnt-see-it/#comment-299569</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"(from one who didn’t see it)".....agh, why bother?  Write about it anyway.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(from one who didn’t see it)&#8221;&#8230;..agh, why bother?  Write about it anyway&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-hillarys-speech-from-one-who-didnt-see-it/#comment-299448</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the Never Give Up, Never Quit theme &lt;/blockquote&gt;But what is it that she's never giving up on?  Answer: her quest for power, in spite of (or because of?) her current campaign finance/corruption scandals, her neck-deep roles in all of the Clinton scandals of the 1990s, her lying to the nation in the Lewinsky scandal, and so forth.  Is it really noble, and/or American, to be a determined underdog - in the cause of getting people to forget your corruption?&lt;blockquote&gt;She pointed out in her speech how American had continued to overcome obstacles and would continue to do so, because we always come together and work hard when we need too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Of course she wants to be an advocate of Americans coming together and working hard - because that way, she changes the conversation away from her scandals, and so may yet be President.
&lt;blockquote&gt;her reasons for why she is voting and supporting him&lt;/blockquote&gt;...which, again, come down to (1) shared left-wing policies and (2) her needing to appear as a good party soldier.  Not her believing in Obama's actual readiness to President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the Never Give Up, Never Quit theme </p></blockquote>
<p>But what is it that she&#8217;s never giving up on?  Answer: her quest for power, in spite of (or because of?) her current campaign finance/corruption scandals, her neck-deep roles in all of the Clinton scandals of the 1990s, her lying to the nation in the Lewinsky scandal, and so forth.  Is it really noble, and/or American, to be a determined underdog - in the cause of getting people to forget your corruption?<br />
<blockquote>She pointed out in her speech how American had continued to overcome obstacles and would continue to do so, because we always come together and work hard when we need too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course she wants to be an advocate of Americans coming together and working hard - because that way, she changes the conversation away from her scandals, and so may yet be President.</p>
<blockquote><p>her reasons for why she is voting and supporting him</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;which, again, come down to (1) shared left-wing policies and (2) her needing to appear as a good party soldier.  Not her believing in Obama&#8217;s actual readiness to President.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkeyedresolve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkeyedresolve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As this site's most stalwart Hillary suporter,I was hoping you would right up something about the speech...or hell I would right up something for the site if no one wanted too. Since this Hillary's last great speech of the election, I think it deserve to be watched and looked at in the long journey of this primary. 

First off, I did like this speech but I still enjoyed her june concession speech, but I thought this was like her second best. Is she the speaker that Obama is, No but that was never her strong suit. I know I didn't think she would be a good president for her speaking ability...and still don't think it should be the defining quality of a candidate. She has definitely improved in her speaking ability and the what she talks about, and how she presents herself from when this election started. 

Second, Hillary has found a theme that works for her and honestly is better than either Obama's Hope and Change or McCain's...Maverick theme. It is the Never Give Up, Never Quit theme that is truly American and its honestly what people need to hear right now. She pointed out in her speech how American had continued to overcome obstacles and would continue to do so, because we always come together and work hard when we need too. It was obviously a winner for her when she started using it in March, she won the second half of the primary but becoming this never surrender fighter.  People want a president that will work as hard as they will have too, they want someone that will never stop and never give up. 

As for the Obama part, yes it was pretty bare but there were some choice lines. She did state that all the reasons and issues she was running on during the primary, it is for all of those reasons that she is voting for Obama. The other good line was when she asked her supporters why they were in the race? Were they in it simply for her or for the issues she represented and the beliefs of the Democratic party. I thought it was a nice touch to answer to all of those people who constantly say it was all about her and nothing more.  I think the reason she didn't talk more about Obama was she is trying to wind over those hardcore people who hate Obama...and talking about Obama was not going to help them. She wanted to lead by example and give her reasons for why she is voting and supporting him. 

I honestly think Hillary would have been better served to talk more about Woman's history and what her campaign and candidacy might have meant for it. We constantly heard about what Obama meant for America and race relations, the media loved to play that up. Hillary might have gotten a larger share of the female vote if she had hit on it like Obama did about his race. I think she touches on it duringher last two speeches to really cement a large base with women, who are extremely important for the Democratic party. 

As for enemies in her party, I spoke about that before and it was one of the reasons I thought she would have problems in the primary. Its easy to see she also has a lot of passionate friends and supporters, this convention and this primary is a testament to that. I mean, Democrats are willing to vote for McCain just so she can in 2012...thats some really serious devotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As this site&#8217;s most stalwart Hillary suporter,I was hoping you would right up something about the speech&#8230;or hell I would right up something for the site if no one wanted too. Since this Hillary&#8217;s last great speech of the election, I think it deserve to be watched and looked at in the long journey of this primary. </p>
<p>First off, I did like this speech but I still enjoyed her june concession speech, but I thought this was like her second best. Is she the speaker that Obama is, No but that was never her strong suit. I know I didn&#8217;t think she would be a good president for her speaking ability&#8230;and still don&#8217;t think it should be the defining quality of a candidate. She has definitely improved in her speaking ability and the what she talks about, and how she presents herself from when this election started. </p>
<p>Second, Hillary has found a theme that works for her and honestly is better than either Obama&#8217;s Hope and Change or McCain&#8217;s&#8230;Maverick theme. It is the Never Give Up, Never Quit theme that is truly American and its honestly what people need to hear right now. She pointed out in her speech how American had continued to overcome obstacles and would continue to do so, because we always come together and work hard when we need too. It was obviously a winner for her when she started using it in March, she won the second half of the primary but becoming this never surrender fighter.  People want a president that will work as hard as they will have too, they want someone that will never stop and never give up. </p>
<p>As for the Obama part, yes it was pretty bare but there were some choice lines. She did state that all the reasons and issues she was running on during the primary, it is for all of those reasons that she is voting for Obama. The other good line was when she asked her supporters why they were in the race? Were they in it simply for her or for the issues she represented and the beliefs of the Democratic party. I thought it was a nice touch to answer to all of those people who constantly say it was all about her and nothing more.  I think the reason she didn&#8217;t talk more about Obama was she is trying to wind over those hardcore people who hate Obama&#8230;and talking about Obama was not going to help them. She wanted to lead by example and give her reasons for why she is voting and supporting him. </p>
<p>I honestly think Hillary would have been better served to talk more about Woman&#8217;s history and what her campaign and candidacy might have meant for it. We constantly heard about what Obama meant for America and race relations, the media loved to play that up. Hillary might have gotten a larger share of the female vote if she had hit on it like Obama did about his race. I think she touches on it duringher last two speeches to really cement a large base with women, who are extremely important for the Democratic party. </p>
<p>As for enemies in her party, I spoke about that before and it was one of the reasons I thought she would have problems in the primary. Its easy to see she also has a lot of passionate friends and supporters, this convention and this primary is a testament to that. I mean, Democrats are willing to vote for McCain just so she can in 2012&#8230;thats some really serious devotion.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't see more than a few seconds of The Speech either.  The commentators (CNN) gushed effusively afterward... I saw some of that.   But from your report and many others, I am gathering that she did basically nothing that would counteract her earlier claims that Obama just isn't ready to be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see more than a few seconds of The Speech either.  The commentators (CNN) gushed effusively afterward&#8230; I saw some of that.   But from your report and many others, I am gathering that she did basically nothing that would counteract her earlier claims that Obama just isn&#8217;t ready to be President.</p>
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