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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Why Feminists Hate Palin; Why Gay Activists Hate Us</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Why Feminists Hate Palin; Why Gay Activists Hate Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me of the reaction I got this weekend when a left-wing blogger linked my recent Washington Blade column. I experienced the same kind of name-calling and stream of vitriol that Sarah Palin has. (The same [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me of the reaction I got this weekend when a left-wing blogger linked my recent Washington Blade column. I experienced the same kind of name-calling and stream of vitriol that Sarah Palin has. (The same [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really don&#039;t have much going for your argument, especially if you read the 2008 Republican party platform.  It mentions &quot;the incompatibility of homosexuality with military service&quot;  (offering, of course, absolutely nothing to back up this statement).  

And, of course, there is an entire section on Traditional Marriage (page 53).  Now, funnily enough, the platform blathers on about a Republican congress passing DOMA so states would not be forced to have to recognize icky marriages from other states.  Now, elsewhere this document goes on several times about states rights to decide.  For people who are so concerned about states rights, they sure don&#039;t mind the federal government wielding its power to stop those yucky homosexuals.  

Here&#039;s my favorite line &quot;Children in homes without fathers are more likely to commit a crime, drop out of school, become violent, become teen parents, use illegal drugs, become mired in poverty, or have emotional or behavioral problems&quot;

This must of great comfort to gay male couples who giving double strength against these things from happening to their kids

Lesbian couples everywhere must be reading this and realizing how horrible they are not to have a father and how they are doubly destroying their children&#039;s lives. (Should Mary Cheney and her partner try to dodge this bullet??)

Of course I&#039;m just not sure what exactly to say about the Palins - how could that girl get pregnant with the perfect mix going so right for her?  hmmmmmm.  Oh wait, yes, we also need to ponder on that section on abstinence only sex education as well as it applies to the Palins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t have much going for your argument, especially if you read the 2008 Republican party platform.  It mentions &#8220;the incompatibility of homosexuality with military service&#8221;  (offering, of course, absolutely nothing to back up this statement).  </p>
<p>And, of course, there is an entire section on Traditional Marriage (page 53).  Now, funnily enough, the platform blathers on about a Republican congress passing DOMA so states would not be forced to have to recognize icky marriages from other states.  Now, elsewhere this document goes on several times about states rights to decide.  For people who are so concerned about states rights, they sure don&#8217;t mind the federal government wielding its power to stop those yucky homosexuals.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my favorite line &#8220;Children in homes without fathers are more likely to commit a crime, drop out of school, become violent, become teen parents, use illegal drugs, become mired in poverty, or have emotional or behavioral problems&#8221;</p>
<p>This must of great comfort to gay male couples who giving double strength against these things from happening to their kids</p>
<p>Lesbian couples everywhere must be reading this and realizing how horrible they are not to have a father and how they are doubly destroying their children&#8217;s lives. (Should Mary Cheney and her partner try to dodge this bullet??)</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m just not sure what exactly to say about the Palins &#8211; how could that girl get pregnant with the perfect mix going so right for her?  hmmmmmm.  Oh wait, yes, we also need to ponder on that section on abstinence only sex education as well as it applies to the Palins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: theowl</title>
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		<dc:creator>theowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your column in the Washington Blade.  It is refreshing to hear a different point of view in the gay media, but ultimately your letter was a depressing read. The low point was when you stated, in reference to the Republican VP candidate&#039;s speech, &quot;In that speech, Palin, like John McCain, did not belittle gays nor reference the battles over marriage.&quot; You wholeheartedly support and applaud McCain and Palin for not attacking gays in their speeches? That&#039;s it? Don&#039;t you find it depressing that you are openly jubilant just because McCain and Palin did not vilify and attack gays with their comments? 

I may not agree with your political views, but I respect your right to voice them.  I sincerely hope the that the Republican Party gives you something to be proud of at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your column in the Washington Blade.  It is refreshing to hear a different point of view in the gay media, but ultimately your letter was a depressing read. The low point was when you stated, in reference to the Republican VP candidate&#8217;s speech, &#8220;In that speech, Palin, like John McCain, did not belittle gays nor reference the battles over marriage.&#8221; You wholeheartedly support and applaud McCain and Palin for not attacking gays in their speeches? That&#8217;s it? Don&#8217;t you find it depressing that you are openly jubilant just because McCain and Palin did not vilify and attack gays with their comments? </p>
<p>I may not agree with your political views, but I respect your right to voice them.  I sincerely hope the that the Republican Party gives you something to be proud of at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you exactly mean by conservative though?  I think that for the majority of gays, conservatism === social conservatism === anti-gay.  Or do you mean conservatism === classical liberal?  And how exactly is the GOP ever was the conservative (classical liberal) party?

There are plenty of GOP good guys out there such as, but not limited to, Arlen Specter, Jerry Sanders,  Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and of course the late Barry Goldwater.  Yet they&#039;re the exception, not the norm.  The way you&#039;re going, you guys are sure doing a good job making the mainstream gay community realize that there are some good guys in the GOP, and that party affiliation means nothing in supporting gay rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you exactly mean by conservative though?  I think that for the majority of gays, conservatism === social conservatism === anti-gay.  Or do you mean conservatism === classical liberal?  And how exactly is the GOP ever was the conservative (classical liberal) party?</p>
<p>There are plenty of GOP good guys out there such as, but not limited to, Arlen Specter, Jerry Sanders,  Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and of course the late Barry Goldwater.  Yet they&#8217;re the exception, not the norm.  The way you&#8217;re going, you guys are sure doing a good job making the mainstream gay community realize that there are some good guys in the GOP, and that party affiliation means nothing in supporting gay rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you exactly mean by conservative though?  I think that for the majority of gays, conservatism === social conservatism === anti-gay.  Or do you mean conservatism === classical liberal?

There are plenty of GOP good guys out there such as, but not limited to, Arlen Specter, Jerry Sanders,  Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and of course the late Barry Goldwater.  Yet they&#039;re the exception, not the norm.  The way you&#039;re going, you guys are doing fuck all to make the mainstream gay community realize that there are some good guys in the GOP, and that party affiliation means nothing in supporting gay rights.

As for being treated nicely at the convention, most of them don&#039;t see you as equals, likewise with the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you exactly mean by conservative though?  I think that for the majority of gays, conservatism === social conservatism === anti-gay.  Or do you mean conservatism === classical liberal?</p>
<p>There are plenty of GOP good guys out there such as, but not limited to, Arlen Specter, Jerry Sanders,  Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and of course the late Barry Goldwater.  Yet they&#8217;re the exception, not the norm.  The way you&#8217;re going, you guys are doing fuck all to make the mainstream gay community realize that there are some good guys in the GOP, and that party affiliation means nothing in supporting gay rights.</p>
<p>As for being treated nicely at the convention, most of them don&#8217;t see you as equals, likewise with the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; The Problem with Joe Solmonese</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; The Problem with Joe Solmonese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Easier to be gay among conservatives . . . [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tex...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>self loathe much fellas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>self loathe much fellas?</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by North Dallas Thirty â€” September 13, 2008 @ 12:05 am - September 13, 2008

right, like social security doesn&#039;t include survivor benefits, disability, SSI..etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by North Dallas Thirty â€” September 13, 2008 @ 12:05 am &#8211; September 13, 2008</p>
<p>right, like social security doesn&#8217;t include survivor benefits, disability, SSI..etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Required Reading: Proud to be a Republican : Jenn Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Required Reading: Proud to be a Republican : Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daniel Blatt of GayPatriot has written a piece for the Washington Blade that should be required reading for liberals. In Proud [...]</description>
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		<title>By: what if?</title>
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		<dc:creator>what if?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;R-E-S-P-E-C-T...&lt;/strong&gt;

Where does a gay guy from Los Angeles go to get a little respect?  The Republican National Convention, of course!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>R-E-S-P-E-C-T&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Where does a gay guy from Los Angeles go to get a little respect?  The Republican National Convention, of course!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael, darling, what you don&#039;t understand is this: unlike Democrats like yourself who are financially illiterate, those of us out here who understand the process of saving and the power of compounding interest know what a raw deal Social Security is.

Put bluntly, if a worker who makes a mere $40,000, starting at age 22, sets aside the 12% that he and his employer are forcibly required to contribute under Social Security today in a simple savings account earning 3% annually, by the time he reaches age 70, he will have a nest egg of $536,000 -- which, if parceled out at the Social Security maximum amount of $2,185 per month this year, just drawing down principal, will cover 245 months, or over 20 years. If he just lived on the interest of this nest egg, he would be making $1,752 a month -- which is 66% MORE than the average Social Security payout of $1,050 a month.

And the sky is the limit. Just a 1% bump in interest rates to 4% would give him an additional $190,000 -- or an average monthly income of $3,028. Give him 5% interest, which is a rate of return that even the most inept of financial planners can manage, and he has $997,000 -- over $4,100 a month.

Give him Social Security and he&#039;ll contribute the same amount -- and get only $1,050 a month for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael, darling, what you don&#8217;t understand is this: unlike Democrats like yourself who are financially illiterate, those of us out here who understand the process of saving and the power of compounding interest know what a raw deal Social Security is.</p>
<p>Put bluntly, if a worker who makes a mere $40,000, starting at age 22, sets aside the 12% that he and his employer are forcibly required to contribute under Social Security today in a simple savings account earning 3% annually, by the time he reaches age 70, he will have a nest egg of $536,000 &#8212; which, if parceled out at the Social Security maximum amount of $2,185 per month this year, just drawing down principal, will cover 245 months, or over 20 years. If he just lived on the interest of this nest egg, he would be making $1,752 a month &#8212; which is 66% MORE than the average Social Security payout of $1,050 a month.</p>
<p>And the sky is the limit. Just a 1% bump in interest rates to 4% would give him an additional $190,000 &#8212; or an average monthly income of $3,028. Give him 5% interest, which is a rate of return that even the most inept of financial planners can manage, and he has $997,000 &#8212; over $4,100 a month.</p>
<p>Give him Social Security and he&#8217;ll contribute the same amount &#8212; and get only $1,050 a month for it.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the Democrats, I get to spend my entire working life paying into a Ponzi scheme that will be bankrupt before I retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the Democrats, I get to spend my entire working life paying into a Ponzi scheme that will be bankrupt before I retire.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talk about taxation without representation, ROTF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk about taxation without representation, ROTF</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/12/easier-to-be-gay-among-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-306242</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so your beloved gets left high and dry???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so your beloved gets left high and dry???</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont have SSI benefits??  Since when?  Luckily thanks to the Democrats,. i am equally coercised into a rip off system that will eventually bankrupt the govt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont have SSI benefits??  Since when?  Luckily thanks to the Democrats,. i am equally coercised into a rip off system that will eventually bankrupt the govt</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehehe, ya. well when your cohorts are willing as not to be so cheap as to give you and your survivor, social security benefits,  then you might have something to crow about. but until such time, you are nothing less than a sucker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehehe, ya. well when your cohorts are willing as not to be so cheap as to give you and your survivor, social security benefits,  then you might have something to crow about. but until such time, you are nothing less than a sucker.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket.&lt;/i&gt;

The guys (and gals) on this blog get told that pretty much every day. The real independent thinkers are on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket.</i></p>
<p>The guys (and gals) on this blog get told that pretty much every day. The real independent thinkers are on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket. This from a friend and colleague who will be apoplectic if Obama doesnâ€™t win.&lt;/i&gt;

What kind of a friend makes your sexual orientation contingent on your political beliefs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket. This from a friend and colleague who will be apoplectic if Obama doesnâ€™t win.</i></p>
<p>What kind of a friend makes your sexual orientation contingent on your political beliefs?</p>
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		<title>By: OutliciousTV</title>
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		<dc:creator>OutliciousTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; The guy who cuts my hair said pretty much the same thing. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I won&#039;t discuss politics with the guy who cuts my hair.  It took me way too long to find someone I like.  HAHAHA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> The guy who cuts my hair said pretty much the same thing. </p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t discuss politics with the guy who cuts my hair.  It took me way too long to find someone I like.  HAHAHA!!</p>
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		<title>By: CavGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CavGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad to have found this blog.  I have felt like an oxymoron for being not just a Gay Republican but a Gay Conservative.  Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket.  This from a friend and colleague who will be apoplectic if Obama doesn&#039;t win.  The guy who cuts my hair said pretty much the same thing.  I usually just laugh off comments like this, but deep down it bothers me.  

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to have found this blog.  I have felt like an oxymoron for being not just a Gay Republican but a Gay Conservative.  Just today, I was told that I am a disgrace to homosexuals because of my support for the McCain/Palin ticket.  This from a friend and colleague who will be apoplectic if Obama doesn&#8217;t win.  The guy who cuts my hair said pretty much the same thing.  I usually just laugh off comments like this, but deep down it bothers me.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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