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		<title>By: Chris Hutcherson</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-315181</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hutcherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long will it be before more money is required, Is this just a short term fix ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long will it be before more money is required, Is this just a short term fix ?</p>
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		<title>By: Rocket</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312980</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V the K as to your comment #15 you got it spot on again:)

now, as said, would someone send these comments to McCain and hey let Sarah use them next week with Motor Mouth Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V the K as to your comment #15 you got it spot on again:)</p>
<p>now, as said, would someone send these comments to McCain and hey let Sarah use them next week with Motor Mouth Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312955</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course what he will do to regain their respect is to make America weaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course what he will do to regain their respect is to make America weaker.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312950</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 Vince,

Excellent points! I wish McCain would make them. You should send them to the McCain campaign. Republicans really havent had good comebacks to those oft-repeated stinkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 Vince,</p>
<p>Excellent points! I wish McCain would make them. You should send them to the McCain campaign. Republicans really havent had good comebacks to those oft-repeated stinkers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocket</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312938</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these comments...I roared when Nobama said, oh I have a bracelet too..me too Mommy, me too....and then struggled to remember the soldier&#039;s name..

Nobama as usual talked out of every side of his mouth. 

The only thing I wish McCain had said was that he doesn&#039;t support the 700 billion bail out as written but he indicated that he wanted the House GOP to have input.

then again NObama didnt&#039; give his position on the bailout and kept saying me too when McCain made a point...

I agree with the comment above that Nobama has ideas about governing (bad ones at best) but not a clue as to what to do. He really reminds me of the Robert Redford character in the movie &quot;The Candidate&quot; who once elected said &quot;now what do I do&quot;

he scares me to no end and plus he gets bored easily..so what happens when the party of campaigning and has to actually govern. I pray he never gets that chance ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these comments&#8230;I roared when Nobama said, oh I have a bracelet too..me too Mommy, me too&#8230;.and then struggled to remember the soldier&#8217;s name..</p>
<p>Nobama as usual talked out of every side of his mouth. </p>
<p>The only thing I wish McCain had said was that he doesn&#8217;t support the 700 billion bail out as written but he indicated that he wanted the House GOP to have input.</p>
<p>then again NObama didnt&#8217; give his position on the bailout and kept saying me too when McCain made a point&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with the comment above that Nobama has ideas about governing (bad ones at best) but not a clue as to what to do. He really reminds me of the Robert Redford character in the movie &#8220;The Candidate&#8221; who once elected said &#8220;now what do I do&#8221;</p>
<p>he scares me to no end and plus he gets bored easily..so what happens when the party of campaigning and has to actually govern. I pray he never gets that chance ever!</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312937</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-Americanism was the method Chirac, Villepin, and Schroder used to divert their electorates away from the collapse of their socialist systems. It was much easier to blame the Americans than it was to admit their economic policies were sapping the lifeblood from their countries.

Now with Sarkozy and Merkel, things are remarkably different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-Americanism was the method Chirac, Villepin, and Schroder used to divert their electorates away from the collapse of their socialist systems. It was much easier to blame the Americans than it was to admit their economic policies were sapping the lifeblood from their countries.</p>
<p>Now with Sarkozy and Merkel, things are remarkably different.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312864</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;the children of the world&quot; is the new standard, then I can name 2 countries where the children love us more than ever before and love to interact with our troops: Iraq and Afghanistan.

Anyway, I thought of another reason why Angry Bambi&#039;s macho belligerency on Afghanistan seemed phony to me.  An obvious, &quot;d&#039;oh!&quot; reason.  Isn&#039;t he supposed to be the Left &quot;anti-war&quot; candidate?  Why would I believe that such a candidate wants to expand any war, anywhere?  Angry Bambi just lied to me for 90 minutes straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;the children of the world&#8221; is the new standard, then I can name 2 countries where the children love us more than ever before and love to interact with our troops: Iraq and Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Anyway, I thought of another reason why Angry Bambi&#8217;s macho belligerency on Afghanistan seemed phony to me.  An obvious, &#8220;d&#8217;oh!&#8221; reason.  Isn&#8217;t he supposed to be the Left &#8220;anti-war&#8221; candidate?  Why would I believe that such a candidate wants to expand any war, anywhere?  Angry Bambi just lied to me for 90 minutes straight.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriotMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatriotMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Shadow will brighten up next week when Sarah gives it to Joe.</description>
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		<title>By: PatriotMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatriotMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was all the smirking about!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312790</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I can&#039;t stand.. when people say we alienated our allies or that countries aren&#039;t working with us anymore.

NAME THEM

Now I certainly understand that Anti-Americanism is ebbing and flowing in the Elite of the world, and that various working class groups are being propagandized to hate us.

That always happens when the United States has an aggressive , interventionist policy.  AKA.. when the US is LEADING and asking others to follow.  That raises the resentment.

You then have to consider what exactly is it that Obama is going to do to &quot;restore&#039; America&#039;s global leadership?

To be a leader in international relations and galvanize other countries to join us in some effortwould mean that we&#039;re acting in an aggressive, interventionist way.. the very behavior that everyone says is the cause of why they hate us.

I think Obama is over his head plus is a little arrogant if he thinks that foreign nation&#039;s foreign policies are going to be revamped because he&#039;s Presidnet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I can&#8217;t stand.. when people say we alienated our allies or that countries aren&#8217;t working with us anymore.</p>
<p>NAME THEM</p>
<p>Now I certainly understand that Anti-Americanism is ebbing and flowing in the Elite of the world, and that various working class groups are being propagandized to hate us.</p>
<p>That always happens when the United States has an aggressive , interventionist policy.  AKA.. when the US is LEADING and asking others to follow.  That raises the resentment.</p>
<p>You then have to consider what exactly is it that Obama is going to do to &#8220;restore&#8217; America&#8217;s global leadership?</p>
<p>To be a leader in international relations and galvanize other countries to join us in some effortwould mean that we&#8217;re acting in an aggressive, interventionist way.. the very behavior that everyone says is the cause of why they hate us.</p>
<p>I think Obama is over his head plus is a little arrogant if he thinks that foreign nation&#8217;s foreign policies are going to be revamped because he&#8217;s Presidnet.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312778</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: Lucky for the Republic that children may not vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: Lucky for the Republic that children may not vote.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312736</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filter!*

(*said the way Seinfeld says &quot;Newman!&quot;)</description>
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<p>(*said the way Seinfeld says &#8220;Newman!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312734</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH! I&#039;m not even sure who I&#039;m listening to, but they just mentioned that Obama&#039;s new foreign policy test is &quot;the children of the world&quot;. A childish statement of childish policy from a childish politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH! I&#8217;m not even sure who I&#8217;m listening to, but they just mentioned that Obama&#8217;s new foreign policy test is &#8220;the children of the world&#8221;. A childish statement of childish policy from a childish politician.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/26/final-debate-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-312731</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shadow! What a cute poopy. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œI have a bracelet, too!â€ - That quote of Obamaâ€™s epitomizes his lack of balls; his lightweight (if not phony/pretender) status and his â€œMe, too - I can SO be President!â€ attitude. Who knows, it may ultimately be his epitaph. Letâ€™s hope.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Amen!

My impression: Obama was taken to school. McCain seemed presidential, obama borderline unprofessional. I was reminded of Al Gore 8 years ago gasping and sighing every 2 seconds, but without the command of the issues. Yes, Obama held his own, he had talking points, but he SOUNDED like he was rattling off prepared talking points. 

I may be forgetting something, but it seems to me McCain had all the good soundbites, Obama all the bad ones. 

&quot;Senator, I know Kissenger, and youre no kissenger&quot;. and &quot;you can&#039;t SAY that...out LOUD!&quot; vs Obama&#039;s &quot;I have a bracelet too!&quot; and &quot;John is right&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shadow! What a cute poopy. </p>
<blockquote><p>â€œI have a bracelet, too!â€ &#8211; That quote of Obamaâ€™s epitomizes his lack of balls; his lightweight (if not phony/pretender) status and his â€œMe, too &#8211; I can SO be President!â€ attitude. Who knows, it may ultimately be his epitaph. Letâ€™s hope.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen!</p>
<p>My impression: Obama was taken to school. McCain seemed presidential, obama borderline unprofessional. I was reminded of Al Gore 8 years ago gasping and sighing every 2 seconds, but without the command of the issues. Yes, Obama held his own, he had talking points, but he SOUNDED like he was rattling off prepared talking points. </p>
<p>I may be forgetting something, but it seems to me McCain had all the good soundbites, Obama all the bad ones. </p>
<p>&#8220;Senator, I know Kissenger, and youre no kissenger&#8221;. and &#8220;you can&#8217;t SAY that&#8230;out LOUD!&#8221; vs Obama&#8217;s &#8220;I have a bracelet too!&#8221; and &#8220;John is right&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A Conservative Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Conservative Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out my blog- I second some of the analysis on there, except I think it was a much stronger win for McCain, although you had to listen and think, and not just watch the debate.  I really don&#039;t care how they looked without a teleprompter- I picked up on the fact that Obama has a lot of thoughts and ideas about government, but McCain has a lot of experience and leadership in government.  That&#039;s the person you elect President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out my blog- I second some of the analysis on there, except I think it was a much stronger win for McCain, although you had to listen and think, and not just watch the debate.  I really don&#8217;t care how they looked without a teleprompter- I picked up on the fact that Obama has a lot of thoughts and ideas about government, but McCain has a lot of experience and leadership in government.  That&#8217;s the person you elect President.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice roundup from Hugh Hewitt:

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/1e304fef-3b06-44ef-9b76-6b3122359016

Reminded me of something... I couldn&#039;t believe it when Angry Bambi suggested we were having problems with Iran / increased Iranian might today, &lt;em&gt;*because of the Iraq war... i.e., because we removed Saddam Hussein as a counterweight&lt;/em&gt;.  He was within inches of suggesting that we should have left Saddam in power!

That, and &quot;I have a bracelet, too!&quot; have to be Obama&#039;s top &#039;loser&#039; moments in this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice roundup from Hugh Hewitt:</p>
<p><a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/1e304fef-3b06-44ef-9b76-6b3122359016" rel="nofollow">http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/1e304fef-3b06-44ef-9b76-6b3122359016</a></p>
<p>Reminded me of something&#8230; I couldn&#8217;t believe it when Angry Bambi suggested we were having problems with Iran / increased Iranian might today, <em>*because of the Iraq war&#8230; i.e., because we removed Saddam Hussein as a counterweight</em>.  He was within inches of suggesting that we should have left Saddam in power!</p>
<p>That, and &#8220;I have a bracelet, too!&#8221; have to be Obama&#8217;s top &#8216;loser&#8217; moments in this one.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And, his tone was like a preacher talking down to his sinful congregation. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There were a few times when he had that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?p=39474#39474&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mussolini look&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And, his tone was like a preacher talking down to his sinful congregation. </p></blockquote>
<p>There were a few times when he had that <a href="http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?p=39474#39474" rel="nofollow">Mussolini look</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the guys at Powerline has a very different assessment than I, emphasizing that McCain was unfocused in some places while  Obama proved he could speak intelligently without a Teleprompter:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021623.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the guys at Powerline has a very different assessment than I, emphasizing that McCain was unfocused in some places while  Obama proved he could speak intelligently without a Teleprompter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021623.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021623.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.  Ed Morrissey knows &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/debate-1-wrap-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;why Angry Bambi&#039;s talk on Afghanistan sounded phony&lt;/a&gt; to me:&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain drew blood when he pointed out that for all of Obamaâ€™s talk about the priority of Afghanistan, he never once bothered to visit that front until last July, even though his Senate subcommittee has jurisdiction on NATO issues.  Obama spluttered in response...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  Ed Morrissey knows <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/debate-1-wrap-up/" rel="nofollow">why Angry Bambi&#8217;s talk on Afghanistan sounded phony</a> to me:<br />
<blockquote>McCain drew blood when he pointed out that for all of Obamaâ€™s talk about the priority of Afghanistan, he never once bothered to visit that front until last July, even though his Senate subcommittee has jurisdiction on NATO issues.  Obama spluttered in response&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One area where Angry Bambi was very much on offense: claiming that Iraq is just a big distraction from Afghanistan and that, as President, He would get tough on both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Did anyone manage to hear him without spitting out their coffee?

I can&#039;t immediately put my finger on why he seemed so phony and unbelievable, but it was... something.  He did utter the words &quot;kill bin Laden&quot; and &quot;crush al Qaeda&quot;.  But any President who meant it would have been way less defensive on Iraq, would have praised our success in Iraq and emphasized the importance of beating al Qaeda there, and *then* gone on to explain his broader vision for victory.

Come to think of it - Did Obama ever say the word &quot;victory&quot;, or was it just a lot of &quot;Hey, nobody is talking about losing&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One area where Angry Bambi was very much on offense: claiming that Iraq is just a big distraction from Afghanistan and that, as President, He would get tough on both Afghanistan and Pakistan.</p>
<p>Did anyone manage to hear him without spitting out their coffee?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t immediately put my finger on why he seemed so phony and unbelievable, but it was&#8230; something.  He did utter the words &#8220;kill bin Laden&#8221; and &#8220;crush al Qaeda&#8221;.  But any President who meant it would have been way less defensive on Iraq, would have praised our success in Iraq and emphasized the importance of beating al Qaeda there, and *then* gone on to explain his broader vision for victory.</p>
<p>Come to think of it &#8211; Did Obama ever say the word &#8220;victory&#8221;, or was it just a lot of &#8220;Hey, nobody is talking about losing&#8221;?</p>
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