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	<title>Comments on: Finding his stride, McCain soared at debate&#8217;s conclusion</title>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/27/finding-his-stride-mccain-soared-at-debates-conclusion/comment-page-1/#comment-313231</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You know how I know McCain won the debate?

The SockPuppet Brigade is silent and must be sleeping it off.&lt;/blockquote&gt;LOL.  Yes, it&#039;s amazing how they all disappear at once, isn&#039;t it?  Even our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/23/on-the-outing-of-mark-buse/#comment-311542&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;doltish Nazi eugenicist (michael)&lt;/a&gt; disappears in synch with the other puppets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You know how I know McCain won the debate?</p>
<p>The SockPuppet Brigade is silent and must be sleeping it off.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL.  Yes, it&#8217;s amazing how they all disappear at once, isn&#8217;t it?  Even our <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/23/on-the-outing-of-mark-buse/#comment-311542" rel="nofollow">doltish Nazi eugenicist (michael)</a> disappears in synch with the other puppets.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;people in my generation (Iâ€™m 31)... didnâ€™t [see] the downside of liberalism&lt;/blockquote&gt;Y&#039;all are seeing it now.  The current financial troubles are because of the Community Reinvestment Act, established in 1977 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act#Clinton_Administration_Changes_of_1995&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;expanded under Clinton in 1995&lt;/a&gt;.  Unfortunately, only a few conservative media sources are explaining that to anyone.  So, thus far, almost no one seems to be learning anything.

Same for the war on us by the Islamists.  Clinton managed that fecklessly (or not at all), which contributed to 9-11.  But the MSM has done is level best, these past seven years, to prevent people from noticing or identifying that fact.&lt;blockquote&gt;Who knows exactly what Obama would do? Could he end up being more of a centrist than we think?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sure.  Again: Clinton was... and &quot;here we are&quot;.  You can be an unprincipled centrist on 80% of things and, in the remaining 20% where you slip in some extreme leftism and/or are plain feckless, damage the nation for generations to come.&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m 95+% sure that an Obama administration combined with a Democratic congress would be an unmistakable disaster, enough to educate millions of younger Americans...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Agree... and I am seriously bummed that we (apparently will) have to go through such disastrous lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>people in my generation (Iâ€™m 31)&#8230; didnâ€™t [see] the downside of liberalism</p></blockquote>
<p>Y&#8217;all are seeing it now.  The current financial troubles are because of the Community Reinvestment Act, established in 1977 and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act#Clinton_Administration_Changes_of_1995" rel="nofollow">expanded under Clinton in 1995</a>.  Unfortunately, only a few conservative media sources are explaining that to anyone.  So, thus far, almost no one seems to be learning anything.</p>
<p>Same for the war on us by the Islamists.  Clinton managed that fecklessly (or not at all), which contributed to 9-11.  But the MSM has done is level best, these past seven years, to prevent people from noticing or identifying that fact.<br />
<blockquote>Who knows exactly what Obama would do? Could he end up being more of a centrist than we think?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure.  Again: Clinton was&#8230; and &#8220;here we are&#8221;.  You can be an unprincipled centrist on 80% of things and, in the remaining 20% where you slip in some extreme leftism and/or are plain feckless, damage the nation for generations to come.<br />
<blockquote>Iâ€™m 95+% sure that an Obama administration combined with a Democratic congress would be an unmistakable disaster, enough to educate millions of younger Americans&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Agree&#8230; and I am seriously bummed that we (apparently will) have to go through such disastrous lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think McCain&#039;s toast, but I&#039;ve been dead wrong on every other prediction this election cycle.</description>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AE-

I was upset that McCain didn&#039;t attack harder on the Economy too...

But I think he&#039;s putting Country First, again.  He&#039;s focused on getting a bill done.  Democrats are flailing around running to the microphones to play politics.  He&#039;s being &quot;elder statesman&quot; on the financial crisis -- it&#039;s a role that doesn&#039;t kill the other guy in the debate, but it&#039;s a role that might start to look better as this week goes on.

And there are two more debates to have on the Economy -- he&#039;ll get his chance.  I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE-</p>
<p>I was upset that McCain didn&#8217;t attack harder on the Economy too&#8230;</p>
<p>But I think he&#8217;s putting Country First, again.  He&#8217;s focused on getting a bill done.  Democrats are flailing around running to the microphones to play politics.  He&#8217;s being &#8220;elder statesman&#8221; on the financial crisis &#8212; it&#8217;s a role that doesn&#8217;t kill the other guy in the debate, but it&#8217;s a role that might start to look better as this week goes on.</p>
<p>And there are two more debates to have on the Economy &#8212; he&#8217;ll get his chance.  I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think McCain won, but he did not start out well. If he had made mincemeat of Obama on economics, as he should have and forgive me, there is no excuse for him NOT, the debate would have been a complete blowout. But McCain let Obama get away with SO many outright lies.  I hope he will correct this in the debates ahead.

Its ironic that Obama was obviously trying to get under McCain&#039;s skin, as it was reported was their strategy, yet it was Obama at the end who was clearly ruffled. 

But still, the two overarching themes of the night, &quot;John is right&quot; and &quot;Obama is naive&quot; remain, and I think will help McCain. 

I&#039;ve noticed that on Drudge&#039;s poll, McCain started out strong, dipped slightly, and has actually strenghtened, which is the opposite of what I thought would happen, I thought the results would swing to Obama the longer the poll remainsed up. Not that its scientific or anything, just interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think McCain won, but he did not start out well. If he had made mincemeat of Obama on economics, as he should have and forgive me, there is no excuse for him NOT, the debate would have been a complete blowout. But McCain let Obama get away with SO many outright lies.  I hope he will correct this in the debates ahead.</p>
<p>Its ironic that Obama was obviously trying to get under McCain&#8217;s skin, as it was reported was their strategy, yet it was Obama at the end who was clearly ruffled. </p>
<p>But still, the two overarching themes of the night, &#8220;John is right&#8221; and &#8220;Obama is naive&#8221; remain, and I think will help McCain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that on Drudge&#8217;s poll, McCain started out strong, dipped slightly, and has actually strenghtened, which is the opposite of what I thought would happen, I thought the results would swing to Obama the longer the poll remainsed up. Not that its scientific or anything, just interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know how I know McCain won the debate?

The SockPuppet Brigade is silent and must be sleeping it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know how I know McCain won the debate?</p>
<p>The SockPuppet Brigade is silent and must be sleeping it off.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6: ILC - that video sure is a pisser. Potemkin liberals. As long as they can insulate themselves from the consequences (high-end neighborhoods, gated communities, private schools), they can pretend to be &quot;more caring than thou&quot;. To paraphrase Hillary (I think): liberalism requires a willing suspension of logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6: ILC &#8211; that video sure is a pisser. Potemkin liberals. As long as they can insulate themselves from the consequences (high-end neighborhoods, gated communities, private schools), they can pretend to be &#8220;more caring than thou&#8221;. To paraphrase Hillary (I think): liberalism requires a willing suspension of logic.</p>
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		<title>By: cme</title>
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		<dc:creator>cme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-There is a case to be made that masses of Americans have a date with leftism, needing to learn (or re-learn) why it doesnâ€™t work:-

ILC, I agree.  As much as it pains me to admit it, I think at some point, people in my generation (I&#039;m 31)---the didn&#039;t-live-through-Carter generation---to see the downside of liberalism.  Honestly, we didn&#039;t really see it during the Clinton years, partly because Bill Clinton was, to his credit, no Carter, and partly because we had the GOP congress to keep him in check.  Who knows exactly what Obama would do?  Could he end up being more of a centrist than we think?  I&#039;d say he&#039;s enough of a pragmatic politician that the answer might be yes.  Even so, I&#039;m 95+% sure that an Obama administration combined with a Democratic congress would be an unmistakable disaster, enough to educate millions of younger Americans why conservative principles ain&#039;t all bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-There is a case to be made that masses of Americans have a date with leftism, needing to learn (or re-learn) why it doesnâ€™t work:-</p>
<p>ILC, I agree.  As much as it pains me to admit it, I think at some point, people in my generation (I&#8217;m 31)&#8212;the didn&#8217;t-live-through-Carter generation&#8212;to see the downside of liberalism.  Honestly, we didn&#8217;t really see it during the Clinton years, partly because Bill Clinton was, to his credit, no Carter, and partly because we had the GOP congress to keep him in check.  Who knows exactly what Obama would do?  Could he end up being more of a centrist than we think?  I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s enough of a pragmatic politician that the answer might be yes.  Even so, I&#8217;m 95+% sure that an Obama administration combined with a Democratic congress would be an unmistakable disaster, enough to educate millions of younger Americans why conservative principles ain&#8217;t all bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt Gingrich tells it like it is about the Congressional Corruption vis a vis the Economic Disaster

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&amp;streamingFormat=FLASH&amp;referralObject=3114677&amp;referralPlaylistId=playlist

Unfortunately Bill OReilly is on there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt Gingrich tells it like it is about the Congressional Corruption vis a vis the Economic Disaster</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&#038;streamingFormat=FLASH&#038;referralObject=3114677&#038;referralPlaylistId=playlist" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&#038;streamingFormat=FLASH&#038;referralObject=3114677&#038;referralPlaylistId=playlist</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately Bill OReilly is on there too.</p>
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		<title>By: sonicfrog.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonicfrog.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic

Paul Newman has passed away.</description>
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<p>Paul Newman has passed away.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/09/27/finding-his-stride-mccain-soared-at-debates-conclusion/comment-page-1/#comment-312884</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PUMAs were saying he was on coke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PUMAs were saying he was on coke</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice the spittle on Obamas lip for 4 minutes of the debate? Yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice the spittle on Obamas lip for 4 minutes of the debate? Yuck.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;no matter how good [McCain] is, the country, I believe, wants to elect Obama&lt;/blockquote&gt;There is a case to be made that masses of Americans have a date with leftism, needing to learn (or re-learn) why it doesn&#039;t work:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194230.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>no matter how good [McCain] is, the country, I believe, wants to elect Obama</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a case to be made that masses of Americans have a date with leftism, needing to learn (or re-learn) why it doesn&#8217;t work:</p>
<p><a href="http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194230.php" rel="nofollow">http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194230.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain, it seemed, improved only after the barbs from Obama energized him. Obama thought he was landing a trophy fish, but then McCain made a leap, ate Obama&#039;s lunch, spit the hook, flipped his tail and went home.

If Rush has the correct story about how Obama screwed up in the meeting with Bush on Thursday, I suspect Obama revealed a great deal to McCain about how to walk through the front door and paste him with a haymaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain, it seemed, improved only after the barbs from Obama energized him. Obama thought he was landing a trophy fish, but then McCain made a leap, ate Obama&#8217;s lunch, spit the hook, flipped his tail and went home.</p>
<p>If Rush has the correct story about how Obama screwed up in the meeting with Bush on Thursday, I suspect Obama revealed a great deal to McCain about how to walk through the front door and paste him with a haymaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that because McCain still has a chance to win that that is an indication that people do not trust Obama at all.. 

He&#039;s (Omarxa) going to lose , big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that because McCain still has a chance to win that that is an indication that people do not trust Obama at all.. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s (Omarxa) going to lose , big.</p>
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		<title>By: nolabill</title>
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		<dc:creator>nolabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He knew he lost the edge
half way through. Obama got flop sweat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He knew he lost the edge<br />
half way through. Obama got flop sweat.</p>
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		<title>By: cme</title>
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		<dc:creator>cme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, in my comment from a minute ago, I of course meant that Obama has to have &quot;bad weeks&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, in my comment from a minute ago, I of course meant that Obama has to have &#8220;bad weeks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cme</title>
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		<dc:creator>cme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem for McCain though is that I think no matter how good he is, the country, I believe, wants to elect Obama.  I&#039;m not exactly sure people will elect McCain no matter how much they think he would be a good leader IF they also think Obama will be an acceptable leader.  To be sure, Obama won&#039;t have a blowout victory if McCain&#039;s campaign doesn&#039;t fall apart, but to actually win, McCain not only has to have good weeks, but Obama has to have ones, esp. right at the end.  It&#039;s quite possible that Obama will, given that Obama is still something of an unknown quantity and McCain&#039;s campaign may have be well positioned for a powerful final push.  And there are two more debates.  And Sarah Palin could successfully push back against the crap thrown at her.  (I certainly don&#039;t think such is the case right now.)  Even so, I do think McCain is facing a pretty strong headwind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for McCain though is that I think no matter how good he is, the country, I believe, wants to elect Obama.  I&#8217;m not exactly sure people will elect McCain no matter how much they think he would be a good leader IF they also think Obama will be an acceptable leader.  To be sure, Obama won&#8217;t have a blowout victory if McCain&#8217;s campaign doesn&#8217;t fall apart, but to actually win, McCain not only has to have good weeks, but Obama has to have ones, esp. right at the end.  It&#8217;s quite possible that Obama will, given that Obama is still something of an unknown quantity and McCain&#8217;s campaign may have be well positioned for a powerful final push.  And there are two more debates.  And Sarah Palin could successfully push back against the crap thrown at her.  (I certainly don&#8217;t think such is the case right now.)  Even so, I do think McCain is facing a pretty strong headwind.</p>
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