http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puN9X1mVgRA ……..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjvBEKrGkDI …….

Back to my point. By allowing the voter fraud to go on, makes this great country look like a third world dictatorship. We are supposed to send an example to the rest of the world how honest elections are held and not allow the media to distort the facts. Please people, wake up and tell the media no more. Boycott all the products advertised on publications like the Newsweek, Time magazine and other propaganda machines like the New York Times. Also do the same with CNN and other communist propaganda news sources. Even the Fox News network is starting to sway the viewer decision. After Thursday’s presidential debate, watching Chris Wallace interview a communist from Saint Louis made me sick. Even bad journalists should realize that when you ask a communist or a skin head to give you their views, you can pretty much expect what they are going to say.
I certainly had enough of all of the $%#@Comunism.org
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Dave,
I’ve observed NDT effortlessly toy with you like a terrified squealing little mouse for months and he has NEVER misrepresented your statements nor lied about the words you have used to express your beliefs or opinions. What’s really eating you relates to the quote above. You have posted comments almost identical to the one quoted above several times in the past, and YOU STILL DON’T GET IT. What you apoplectically see as NDT “blowing your words out of recognizable proportion” is, in fact, nothing more than NDT using analogies and logic to illustrate how ridiculous, unsupported, hysterical and bigoted your statements truly are. You’re not upset because NDT has misrepresented your statements–you’re spinning like a top because he effortlessly exposes the intellectual bankruptcy of your statements by just analyzing them and taking them to their logical (and totally absurd) conclusions.

When you start with your bigoted ghost stories about a homosexual-slaughtering Christian army and use expressions like “out for blood,” “capital offense” and “face very real threats,” NDT just points out how stupid you sound because the nation you describe simply has NOTHING in common with reality and there is nothing to support your Cassandra-complex except the hyper-victimization fantasies you create in your head. Republicans, conservatives, evangelicals–even the most fringe elements of these groups do not sit around waiting for the right moment to pounce and take away all of your rights and establish some apocalyptic theocracy designed solely for your oppression. In this nation there are principled debates about gay marriage and military service and that’s about it. And every day those debates become less and less relevant.

That’s the truth. There’s no anti-gay Christian mafia out to get you, Dave. You flatter yourself to presume that is the case. And as long as you keep posting your hysterical comments about this “imminent threat” we all face, NDT is going to keep pointing out what an ignorant fool you are. You’re just going to have to deal with that. And by the way, the fact that you keep pushing this imaginary, anti-gay, Bible-thumping tsunami lurking here in America while gay teenagers are swinging from the gallows in Iran (a far worthier recipient of your contempt and derision than American Christians), really demonstrates how warped your thinking is–pretty much beyond hope, you poor little thing.

ILC, so I should cut the “personal-attack crap”? No problem, the day the reverse happens. I have to go appease some auditors at work, later, if I decide to waste the time providing proof of what I said, I will. I say wast the time because it really makes no difference, no matter what I could produce it would be from my “paranoid fantasies, lack of intellect, and utter bigotry” right?

they rely heavily on the OT to justify their crusades

I call bullshit. Provide an example. (Note that in doing so, you will of course have to specify who “they” is and what time period you are talking about, both of which are unclear at this point.)

The first is happening in Europe.. the 2nd here.

Answer: Because society will collapse in one generation without children, in a few generations more without educated children.

But then again, as has been made obvious, the only use the gay liberal community has for children is as dress-up dolls to take to sex fairs. Liberal gays like Dave don’t care one whit about “society”; all they care about is their own gratification and selfish needs, as we saw with Dave’s insistence that condemning promiscuous disease-spreading sex is “right wing”, and now his demand that gays, like Charlie Rangel, not have to pay taxes because they’re “oppressed”.

Thank you, Dave, especially given that numerous people here, including GPW and ILC, know exactly who I am and what I do, and have met me on numerous occasions. By the way, I’ve been posting on GayPatriot, including v1, long before you ever arrived and even before GPW formally became GayPatriotWest, so I think by now everyone is aware of my political leanings.

In short, what you just demonstrated is how reality takes a back seat to your paranoid fantasies, lack of intellect, and utter bigotry.

Now we have crap identity politics that the Democrats have cultivated very well.. all of them with their hand out.

GROUPS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS. Not if one properly understands what a “right” is. Only individuals can ever have rights.

A right is something that an individual is or is not entitled to do. All rights begin with the individual’s right to live. Because the individual has a right to live, he or she then has a right to free conscience, free speech (i.e. to speak her own view), free association, disposing of her own property, etc.

Groups of various kinds (the Church, the State, the Mafia, the KKK, the rampaging mob, etc.) threaten rights, by group misbehavior and over-reach. Group membership is amorphous. No one ever speaks for every member of some alleged group. There is no “group point of view”… therefore no group rights.

As AE pointed out, Jim Crow was bad because it attempted to cram individuals into groups and systematically violated *individual* rights. In putting a stop to Jim Crow, government restored *individual* rights. The notion of a group having rights is a leftist effort to pervert / undermine the concept of “rights” altogether, so that our Left would-be rulers can get away with a lot more, if/when they come to power.

if there is ever any concern that the legal system can be manipulated to challenge legal contracts gay couples have to protect themselves and their families, then It is my belief that a true barrier does exist

“If there is ever any concern… then it is my belief that a true barrier does exist…”? Do you mean that reality is subjective? That if you *feel* something is so (or “have a concern” about it), then it is the job of others to dance to your tune and agree there is a “true” barrier, when there isn’t? I hope that’s not what you are saying!

James didn’t say it, I did. And there is nothing childish about forming an opinion based on the words of the people in question. What is childish is you covering your eyes so you don’t have to acknowledge the evidence. Also childish is exaggerating what is said to make it seem more extreme than it is, but that’s a typical pseudo-conservative tactic.

“Actually, YOURE the one demanding they cough up THEIR money to subsidize YOUR relationship”

And here is where you betray, not only your ignorance, but the reason you deny what I say. Because you are just like them. Nobody is being asked to subsidize ANYTHING. Unless of course you mean allowing partners on insurance plans, filing joint taxes and other such things that come with marriage. By that idiot logic you should give me back every penny of MY money that has gone to support hetero relationships and the results of their uncontrolled lust – children. Why should my money go to their education, why should they get tax breaks for breeding etc. You are the one that needs to grow up.

“Yeah, if they ignore that obscure little section called THE NEW TESTAMENT.”

As a matter of fact, which you would know if you actually paid attention, they rely heavily on the OT to justify their crusades. And, per their teaching, the OT law was only modified, not nullified by the NT. It would be a waste of time to go into anymore details with you.

“For crying out loud mary. Exit stage left, cus this drama sucks.”

lol, thanks that made my day

despite repeated attempts to downplay the power and danger of the anti-gay right the fact remains you do so at your own peril. You rightly condemn the actions of Islamic fanatics but have a total blindspot to threat of those fanatics here who call themselves Christian.

What peril? What threat? Please! Grow up.

Because they aren’t killing us (or usually aren’t) does not mean that they will not do anything else in their power to interfere with our lives.

How the hell are they interfering with your life? Actually, YOURE the one demanding they cough up THEIR money to subsidize YOUR relationship, so if anyone is interfering with anyone’s life, knucklehead, its you. “usually arent” killing you? oh fucking hell, do grow up.

The groups that are organized for the specific purpose of fighting “the homosexual agenda”

I oppose the gay agenda…and I havent killed you…yet! mwahahahaha! There it is, right there, opposing the “gay agenda” in and of itself means youre a biggoted fanatic likely to murder people who disagree with you. James, you are a child.

those who take the Bible as word for word literal have no choice but to consider sex between two men a capital offense

Yeah, if they ignore that obscure little section called THE NEW TESTAMENT. For crying out loud mary. Exit stage left, cus this drama sucks.

I’ve only seen one group that even discusses it on their website and it was unsettling to say the least

and yet you’re fine with a guy who hangs around with people who plant and blow up bombs and says to this day he didnt do enough.

What a piece of work you are.

Given that you espouse the rights of the individual rather than group rights

As does the Constitution and all our founding documents.

I am confused what group rights you think were upheld by those court cases? They werent upholding or establishing group rights, they were in fact striking down laws that treated people as members of a group rather than individuals.

It almost seems as if we have a “chicken or the egg” situation. The rights of the individual are of great importance, yet the opinion regarding a group can get in the away of the indivudal realizing those rights when the law doesn’t provide a deterrent to discrimination (the law allows plenty of personal freedom for one to maintain one’s personal prejudices).

I would daresay those comments have more to do with the writers’ own neuroses than my arguments.