Comments on: Why It Matters to Come Out as a Gay Republican http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:33:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Matt D. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-330003 Matt D. Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:10:13 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-330003 It has been so valuable for me to find others out there who are experiencing the same things I am, simply because we hold conservative. I just finished writing a blog about this topic on my own blog space: viewpoints.http://disasterman1958.blogspot.com/2008/11/back-in-closet-again-life-of-gay.html Matt D., San Francisco, CA It has been so valuable for me to find others out there who are experiencing the same things I am, simply because we hold conservative. I just finished writing a blog about this topic on my own blog space:

viewpoints.http://disasterman1958.blogspot.com/2008/11/back-in-closet-again-life-of-gay.html

Matt D., San Francisco, CA

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318684 American Elephant Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:04:39 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318684 Seriously, how monumentally arrogant do you have to be to write two memoirs by the age of 47 when you have accomplished precisely zilch? Seriously, how monumentally arrogant do you have to be to write two memoirs by the age of 47 when you have accomplished precisely zilch?

]]> By: Sean A http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318668 Sean A Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:59:44 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318668 #15: He's written TWO memoirs! #15: He’s written TWO memoirs!

]]> By: North Dallas Thirty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318623 North Dallas Thirty Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:26:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318623 No, jonesey, because even <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=5487#comment-318618" rel="nofollow"> the most dogmatic, hateful drivel-spewers like yourself</a> have friends. They just tend to also be dogmatic, hateful drivel-spewers as well. No, jonesey, because even the most dogmatic, hateful drivel-spewers like yourself have friends.

They just tend to also be dogmatic, hateful drivel-spewers as well.

]]> By: jonesey12 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318616 jonesey12 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:06:03 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318616 Did you ever think that some of your former friends dumped you not for being Republican (in and of itself), but for the dogmatic, hateful, toe-the-line-and-talk-the-talking-points drivel that you post in your blog? Did you ever think that some of your former friends dumped you not for being Republican (in and of itself), but for the dogmatic, hateful, toe-the-line-and-talk-the-talking-points drivel that you post in your blog?

]]> By: cme http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318558 cme Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:16:17 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318558 A memoir? Aren't you too young? No one your age writes memoirs. I can't think of any single person who would ever write a memoir at that young of an age. Hmm, well, maybe there is someone I can think of who has. His name escapes me though. I think he's from Chicago or somethin'. A memoir? Aren’t you too young? No one your age writes memoirs. I can’t think of any single person who would ever write a memoir at that young of an age. Hmm, well, maybe there is someone I can think of who has. His name escapes me though. I think he’s from Chicago or somethin’.

]]> By: MikeInSedona http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318537 MikeInSedona Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:03:54 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318537 Thanks for sharing, Dan. That's why my morning coffee with this blog feels like morning coffee with friends. Thanks for sharing, Dan. That’s why my morning coffee with this blog feels like morning coffee with friends.

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318400 American Elephant Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:50:53 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318400 If conservative is the new gay, doesnt that make liberal the new big bad oppressor? If conservative is the new gay, doesnt that make liberal the new big bad oppressor?

]]> By: Keegan http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318291 Keegan Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318291 It's important to be yourself and accepted for who you are by those that understand and screw those that don't. I recently put my political leaning up on my profile on a gay site. I don't care what people think, I'd rather meet people who are cool with it, and it gives me a better chance to meet someone with similar values, though I haven't had probs with my Dem lovers. Confronting someone about their prejudices is a good thing. Great post. It’s important to be yourself and accepted for who you are by those that understand and screw those that don’t. I recently put my political leaning up on my profile on a gay site. I don’t care what people think, I’d rather meet people who are cool with it, and it gives me a better chance to meet someone with similar values, though I haven’t had probs with my Dem lovers. Confronting someone about their prejudices is a good thing. Great post.

]]> By: Lorie Byrd http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318276 Lorie Byrd Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:21:40 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318276 I hope you write that book. I think your story is interesting and I know I'd read it! I hope you write that book. I think your story is interesting and I know I’d read it!

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318253 ThatGayConservative Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:11:35 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318253 <i>largely by taking the wrong path</i> I'd be interested in what these wrong paths were. You don't strike me as the drinking, smoking , catt'n' about type. largely by taking the wrong path

I’d be interested in what these wrong paths were. You don’t strike me as the drinking, smoking , catt’n’ about type.

]]> By: John in SF http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318236 John in SF Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:27:36 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318236 I understand how difficult it must have been to come out as a gay conservative in LA and especially in Hollywood. Well, it was very hard to do the same in San Francisco. I have actually had my life threatened for expressing conservative thought amongst other gay men in San Francisco. I have had my car vandalized for nothing more than having a "Support our Troops" magnet. I have been spit on, cursed, and even kicked while on crutches recovering from back surgery. Years ago, before his brain attrophied, in a discussion with Andrew Sullivan, I mentioned that I lived in SF. His response was simply, "I'd rather live in Cuba". And he was right. I have since moved to the more tolerant suburbs and avoid San Francisco as I would avoid Havana. BTW, thanks for the blog, I appreciate reading it every day. I understand how difficult it must have been to come out as a gay conservative in LA and especially in Hollywood. Well, it was very hard to do the same in San Francisco. I have actually had my life threatened for expressing conservative thought amongst other gay men in San Francisco. I have had my car vandalized for nothing more than having a “Support our Troops” magnet. I have been spit on, cursed, and even kicked while on crutches recovering from back surgery. Years ago, before his brain attrophied, in a discussion with Andrew Sullivan, I mentioned that I lived in SF. His response was simply, “I’d rather live in Cuba”. And he was right. I have since moved to the more tolerant suburbs and avoid San Francisco as I would avoid Havana.

BTW, thanks for the blog, I appreciate reading it every day.

]]> By: Dave http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318155 Dave Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:44:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318155 Excellent! Excellent!

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318141 Peter Hughes Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:12:59 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318141 #3 - Right on, jeb. Regards, Peter H. #3 - Right on, jeb.

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: Don http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318140 Don Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:11:39 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318140 Very powerful, considering my strong and loud conservitive views and my private gay life. I'm glad I found this site -- thanks to Malkin. Much to think about here. Thanks. Very powerful, considering my strong and loud conservitive views and my private gay life. I’m glad I found this site — thanks to Malkin. Much to think about here. Thanks.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318133 Jessica Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:51:37 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318133 This is why I tune into GayPatriot everyday. I have yet to find another website that offers readers such a unique perspective. I find it endearing and empowering. Thank you! This is why I tune into GayPatriot everyday. I have yet to find another website that offers readers such a unique perspective. I find it endearing and empowering.

Thank you!

]]> By: rusty http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318117 rusty Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:21:58 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318117 Yeah, trying being a conservative gay person from a minority group. Friends and family detest being lied to. and appreciate any opportunity to be trusted with 'private information'. most of my close gay conservative friends know that I will always be open to them and know that we always can 'agree to disagree' without any fear of loss of our relationship. being open and honest is not only liberating but increases the 'LIFE' we chose to lead, mentally, physically and spiritually. Yeah, trying being a conservative gay person from a minority group.

Friends and family detest being lied to. and appreciate any opportunity to be trusted with ‘private information’. most of my close gay conservative friends know that I will always be open to them and know that we always can ‘agree to disagree’ without any fear of loss of our relationship.

being open and honest is not only liberating but increases the ‘LIFE’ we chose to lead, mentally, physically and spiritually.

]]> By: Jeb http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318104 Jeb Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:39:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318104 Dan, It's takes a great deal of moral conviction to live life "out" and even more to be "out and conservative". I must tell you it is much easier to be a gay conservative in Texas (excluding Austin). I can't imagine the peer pressure that you experience in LA. Actors talk about coming out of the closet in Hollywood and they mean the CONSERVATIVE closet. Risking their careers! How ironic? The same "coming out" fears we have by being gay in the work place and other aspects of our lives. I feel the peer pressure in my personal life and witness the look on the faces of folks when they hear me talk about my political beliefs. I always get the response "Aren't you supposed to be liberal?" I have various comebacks (some sassier than others) depending on whom I am conversing with at the time. Mostly I tell them I believe in personal responsibility and the values of conservatives based on my life experiences. Depending how open they are to discussion I will tell of my transformation from Jimmy Carter liberal to Ronald Reagan conservative. Jimmy Carter was the first and last Democratic presidential candidate I voted for. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and ideas with us. I feel the sense of community that you do by being out and conservative. We are an asset to the gay community and to our community at large. Jeb Dan,

It’s takes a great deal of moral conviction to live life “out” and even more to be “out and conservative”.

I must tell you it is much easier to be a gay conservative in Texas (excluding Austin). I can’t imagine the peer pressure that you experience in LA.

Actors talk about coming out of the closet in Hollywood and they mean the CONSERVATIVE closet. Risking their careers!

How ironic? The same “coming out” fears we have by being gay in the work place and other aspects of our lives.

I feel the peer pressure in my personal life and witness the look on the faces of folks when they hear me talk about my political beliefs. I always get the response “Aren’t you supposed to be liberal?”

I have various comebacks (some sassier than others) depending on whom I am conversing with at the time. Mostly I tell them I believe in personal responsibility and the values of conservatives based on my life experiences.

Depending how open they are to discussion I will tell of my transformation from Jimmy Carter liberal to Ronald Reagan conservative. Jimmy Carter was the first and last Democratic presidential candidate I voted for.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and ideas with us. I feel the sense of community that you do by being out and conservative. We are an asset to the gay community and to our community at large.

Jeb

]]> By: what if? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318097 what if? Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:15:56 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318097 <strong>Be True...</strong> Who are we? What defines us? For myself, the answer would be: daughter, sister, friend, bridge player, Realtor, photographer, parrot mom, blogger, writer, philosopher - and more - in no specific order. Of course, underneath all the labels would be...... Be True…

Who are we? What defines us? For myself, the answer would be: daughter, sister, friend, bridge player, Realtor, photographer, parrot mom, blogger, writer, philosopher - and more - in no specific order. Of course, underneath all the labels would be……

]]> By: Chuck http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/#comment-318083 Chuck Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:36:37 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=5455#comment-318083 Thanks so much for writing that - it's a terrific start for an actual personal-political memoir - Gay Radical Son! This is such an important topic for gay people who often have a hard time fitting in or feeling comfortable with themselves to begin with; conservative-minded gay people have the added challenge of then being faced with rejection from the gay community itself. That experience can be a very nasty eye-opener for the weak of heart. So thanks for your rational, eloquent scratching of this bumpy surface. Don't stop there! Thanks so much for writing that - it’s a terrific start for an actual personal-political memoir - Gay Radical Son! This is such an important topic for gay people who often have a hard time fitting in or feeling comfortable with themselves to begin with; conservative-minded gay people have the added challenge of then being faced with rejection from the gay community itself. That experience can be a very nasty eye-opener for the weak of heart. So thanks for your rational, eloquent scratching of this bumpy surface. Don’t stop there!

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