I think both sides could name presidents who’ve blurred the lines of the checks and balances system that makes our country’s system of government unique.

I was extremely ambivalent about Obama in the beginning. But, after reading both candidates platforms, I can’t seem to find where McCain stands on people…not issues, but actual people who make up this country.

Plus, you never told me why you’d assumed I was white?

There seems to be a lack of sympathy/empathy for the fact whole groups of people in this country do not feel communicated with based on race or sexual orientation. More pointedly, defense of issues seems to be more important than the actual lives of people.

Race, sexual orientation, one’s faith give Americans unique perspectives. The racial aspect seems ignored, but the RNC would cater to people based on fait?

I apologize for getting away from topic, but I honestly do not recall the degree of criticism that exists now against Obama having been displayed against Kerry. I could be particularly sensitive to it because I am both a racial and sexual minority. But, being that I did not really grow up experiencing the lingering racism that exists in this country, I admit that it is very possible that my feelings are misplaced.

The point is that for someone who is a national candidate she has no regard for the rule of law.

WRONG! The investigation determined she broke no laws! You lose.

Sorry, but I think the country has had enough of a president and vice-president for the last 8 years who thinks they can do whatever they please and use the constitution as toilet paper.

The president and vice-president have adhered to the constitution ENTIRELY! When there were differences of opinion between the branches on what the constitution allowed, as there always are, they went through the proper checks and balances and nine times out of ten Bush and Cheney were proven right. And the only times the court disagreed with them, they complied with the court. Thats not abusing the constitution Kevin, thats following it! Proving once again, the only asswipe is you.

Meanwhile, you have a speaker of the House who violated the constitution and the Logan Act by trying to usurp presidential foreign policy powers, a presidential nominee who did the same, a Democrat congress that tried numerous times to usurp the presidents commander in chief powers. A presidential nominee who tried to sic the Justice department on people who criticize him. A Democrat congress that wants to outlaw secret ballots. A Democrat congress that wants to use the Orwellian-named “fairness doctrine” to shut down opposing voices and whose stated agenda violates the enumerated powers given congress by the constitution in so many ways it wouldnt be possible to list them all here.

So really. Get fucked with all your bogus accusations of Republicans violating the constitution. The ONLY parts of the constitution that Democrats dont violate on a daily basis are the ones, like a right to force a third party to scramble your baby’ s brains, that never existed to begin with! Democrats fucking LOATHE the constitution.

Two questions for ThatGayConservative.

1) Did you use “comrade” to describe Kerry in 2004?

I know you didnt ask me but Im going to answer anyway.

YES! We all called Kerry a commie in 2004!And only half tongue-in-cheek.

With Obama being the first nominated black candidate for the presidency, what exactly are you afraid of should he win?

His skin color has nothing to do with being opposed to Obama, but the fact that you would phrase the question like that suggests you are actively looking to accuse anyone who opposes Obama of racism.

The fact is being afraid of an Obama adminstration is very easy. Based on his voting record, he has been rated by non-partisan groups as the singular most leftwing member of the Senate. This is in a Senate that includes Bernie Ward, a self avowed socialist. You have to be pretty fucking left wing to be more left wing than Bernie Ward.

The truth is, from his voting record, to his associations, to his writings, to his proposals, Obama has proven that he is a radical leftist whose ideology lies somewhere between socialism and Marxism. He wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire, meaning a tax increase for everyone, then give some sort of lesser tax cuts to the middle class and a huge tax increase to “the rich” a group he defines as anyone making over $250K — a group that also includes over half the small businesses in America. He has proposed over a trillion dollars in new spending and wants to socialize large sections of the economy. He has a healthcare proposal that while technically not “nationalized healthcare” sets up a scenario that will inevitably cause socialized healthcare — undoubtedly by design.

He promises 90% of all Americans will get a tax cut when 40% of Americans dont pay taxes at all. The truth is, what he proposes is using the government to take money away from people who earned it and redistribute it to people who didnt.

He wants universal pre-school and universal voluntary service — an oxymoron. He wants to change our culture from one where volunteering means volunteering to one where volunteering means getting paid.

he and his wife travel America encouraging students to forgo the “greed” of working in the private sector to work for government instead.

He has already tried to get the Justice Department to go after people who dare criticize him and has sicced his lawyers on TV and radio stations that play ads critical of him. He had his lawyers threaten Republican donors with lawsuits and possible prosecution.

He has long relationship with ACORN — a group which is currently under criminal investigations for election fraud in at least 11 states — most of them swing states — and at the same time tried to hide an $800,000 payment to them. His chief political financial backer, who is now in prison, got him a crooked deal on his mansion, he is deeply tied to the notoriously corrupt Chicago political machine. He moved his campaign and the DNC to notoriously corrupt Chicago. All his previous political opponents mysteriously had their divorce records unsealed. An unheard of practice. And even left wing newspapers are reporting that its possible that he has taken in millions in illegal foreign campaign contributions.

The man is a socialist/marxist and shows all the signs of being a fascist.

There are enormous valid reasons to fear an Obama presidency and how much damage it would do to our country and our constitution. And none of them have anything to do with his skin color.

Sooooo that means that Americans won’t be voting for the liberals, right?

Groups being the operative word. Repbulicans don’t “group” people like the left does. The left keeps the masses in check by keeping them in assigned groups for their own good. Meanwhile, Republicans address Americans.

Perhaps people should break out of their assigned groups and join the rest of us as unhyphenated Americans?

The “rule of law”, in this case, was being abused and ignored.

Trooper Col. Julia Grimes in her disciplinary memo to Wooten stated, “It is nearly certain that a civilian investigated under similar circumstances would have received criminal sanctions.”

But of course, Barack Obama shrieks that firing people who abuse the system like this and insist that officers of the law can get away with things that would land a normal person in jail is showing “no regard for the rule of law”. Barack Obama supports breaking the law to keep corrupt criminals like this on the job, but screams that people who fire these corrupt criminals are lawbreakers.

In this case, not only were her family members working to get this guy fired, but when the laws involved didn’t suit their needs to make their case against this guy, she began using staff members to harass state agencies to get her way. Does Alaska have other problematic state troopers who she has tried to get dismissed for similar issues? I understand she also maneuvered to remove qualified people from non-plum jobs to fill with her friends and relatives.

Sorry, but I think the country has had enough of a president and vice-president for the last 8 years who thinks they can do whatever they please and use the constitution as toilet paper.

What I do believe is that there is a lack of effort on the part of leadership to reach out to groups historically discriminated against based on things they cannot control (race, sex, and sexual orientation). My perception is that there is a gross lack of comfort not just in discussing and listening to the issues rather than hearing them. I’ve even told my own parents and grandmother to “stop and think” whenever they’ve said Republicans don’t care about them.

By not having the discussion, it gives the appearance to the other side that Republicans just don’t care. Minorities and whites have a 50/50 responsibility to extend a hand to the other side.

And my family of Ohio Germans came from Stuttgart. What’s your point? Besides, the fact that you’re offended is whose problem, exactly?

But hey, thanks for changing the subject of the comment thread into a discussion about me and sharing your misinformed opinion that Republicans are racist, sexist, bigot homophobes. While you piss and moan about the notion that the RNC is too white, why not reflect on why blacks have never gotten anywher in the DNC. Why was Kerry’s campaign so lilly white?

And no, I don’t believe for a second the supposed altruism of nominating a half-black man to run for president. Especially when liberals do their damndest to keep blacks down.

Cheers!

(I now return you to the subject at hand)

2. I’m afraid of the Marxism that would come with the new buffoon hell bent on destroying everything that makes America the greatest country in the world.

Am I afraid of a black man? Is that what you’re digging for? Nope. That’s you’re own bigoted ASSumption.

What’s more, NDT used to live in Dallas. I grew up in central Mississippi and was living in Houston (closer to Jasper) when Byrd was killed. Still doesn’t change the fact that I too consider blacks to be Americans instead of people to pitty and keep crushed into poverty under the heel liberal reich.

Also, I lived outside of the U.S. for so long my view on race relations in this country is somewhat different from what one would expect.

My partner, who is 10 years my senior, is white. I asked him just now if I was being paranoid in thinking that I’ve seen more ferocity on the side of Republicans in this race than in 2004, 2000, and 1998. Obama was called an Arab at a McCain rally, Republicans are calling him a Muslim. it’s like a two-for-one on racist rhetoric. Is this of no concern? Is it OK to use a racial slur just because one is angry?