Obama’s Thugocracy Strikes In Pittsburgh
Via Drudge: WTAE-TV 4, PITTSBURGH.
A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.
Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.
The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
So it begins. I’m shocked that the mere stating of facts in this news report isn’t being branded as “racist”.
First they came for the campaign volunteers, then the opposition party members, then the media, then …
UPDATE: The 20-year old victim (via Gateway Pundit)
[RELATED:Â The Coming Liberal Thugocracy - Michael Barone]
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
UP-UPDATE (from Dan): Because some readers have raised doubts about the story, I’m busy googling and checking the blogs to try and see if we can confirm this (or contradict it as the case may be).
UP-UP-UPDATE (from Dan): Michelle Malkin is skeptical. Phyllis Chesler is not. Me, well, let me just say, it doesn’t smell right that she refused medical attention.
UP-UP-UP-UPDATE (from Dan): She’s changed her story. Hmm. . . Something doesn’t smell right.
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I don’t know if this passes the smell test. She refused medical help? It happened “out of range of cameras�
Sounds suspicious.
Comment by M — October 23, 2008 @ 5:01 pm - October 23, 2008
“Thugrocracy”? No, implied racism there. None at all.
You’ve just blamed Obama for the act of one person.
Gee, how about the idiots who sent death threats to Kathleen Parker? Are they part of the McCain/Palin-thugocracy?
What about the death threats against the Dixie Chicks?
It’s a bit much for someone who espouses personal responsibility to assign blame of one alleged violent act to Barack Obama. Aren’t you doing the same thing you accuse “liberals” of doing?
Comment by blake — October 23, 2008 @ 5:11 pm - October 23, 2008
Why not? Barack Obama and Joe Biden claimed that McCain and Palin were personally responsible for one person who, despite being heard by no one other than a nearby Obama-shilling WaPo reporter, apparently yelled “Kill him!”
Either state that Obama and Biden were wrong, Blake, or be obviously hypocritical one more time. Your choice.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 23, 2008 @ 5:35 pm - October 23, 2008
Saying “thugocracy” isn’t racist?
Then I guess you won’t call me sexist if I say Sarah Palin represents a coming “cuntocracy,” right?
No new taxes and Manolo Blahniks for everyone! Woohoo!
Comment by Erik — October 23, 2008 @ 6:06 pm - October 23, 2008
ND30,
I think you’re comparing apples and oranges here. First, you’re comparing an incident that took place on the street versus an ongoing pattern that took place at rallies.
In either case, I don’t personally blame McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden for the actions of losers who takes such actions. I do think candidates do have a responsibility to be mindful of rhetoric that can rev up some nasty, unbalanced people.
John McCain was quite good about setting the record straight when a woman said she thought Obama was an Arab. McCain then explained that Obama was a decent family man and not an Arab. (Which, of course, was a gaffe since it is possible to be a good Arab and a family man. Just ask Republican John Sunnunu and his son.)
Similarly, I recall Obama denouncing comments he found offensive that supporters of his made, like that idiot Ludacris.
Anyway, ND30, you do have a habit of telling me that I believe or endorse things when I don’t. That’s poor form.
BTW, I did respond to your about “discussing” a debate on gay marriage but that response seems to have gotten eaten by the comment system. So, sorry for the off topic here: But I’d be happy discuss marriage and civil unions with you.
At this point, I can’t find any major figures on the Right, other than Schwarzenegger, who’s more of liberal than conservative, support gay nups, either marriage or civil unions. Can you point out some figures on the Right for me?
Again, I can look at Obama and his attempt at being middle of the road, and granting full equality under the law to civil unions. That gives a nod to gays getting equal protection and religious people wanting “marriage” to be a religious title.
But what about Palin and her continued insistence against any form of state recognized gay partnerships? In her recent interview with James Dobson, Palin assured Dobson she would be successful in persuading McCain to support the FMA.
What are your thoughts?
Again, off topic but my comments don’t seem to appear on the other thread.
Comment by blakes — October 23, 2008 @ 6:07 pm - October 23, 2008
blakes, did Obama denounce Ludacris? I researched the issue at the time and found no such criticism.
Do you have a link indicating that he had. Will check spam queue for your comments; it’s been acting most capriciously of late.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — October 23, 2008 @ 6:18 pm - October 23, 2008
Saying “thugocracy†isn’t racist?
Of course it isn’t racist; whether or not one is a thug is determined by action, not skin color.
Problem here, Erik, is that you equate racism with criticizing a black person’s behavior.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 23, 2008 @ 6:32 pm - October 23, 2008
I agree with M here that something is a little fishy here. She refused medical attention after getting cut by a stranger? The “B” in the photo looks like it was done with a fingernail not a knife.
Comment by OutliciousTV — October 23, 2008 @ 6:47 pm - October 23, 2008
Good point, Outlicious. Her refusal of medical attention gives us grounds to be skeptical of her story.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — October 23, 2008 @ 6:57 pm - October 23, 2008
For what it’s worth, remark at PajamasMedia, at Phyllis Chesler:
50. Ricardo:
I think Obama will be terrible, I think his supporters are terrible and have already documented instances of assault against McCain supporters (in NYC)… BUT
I am a Plastic Surgeon and I have plenty of experience treating facial trauma.
Other than a very neatly “carvedâ€, or carefully scratched at uniform depth, there is NO evidence of facial trauma. The “black eye†has fine wrinkles, intact anatomic landmarks, etc. If anything, one would expect increased trauma the day after such a beating.
This might be a Tawana Brawley moment for us Republicans.
Oct 23, 2008 – 4:42 pm
Comment by heather — October 23, 2008 @ 8:03 pm - October 23, 2008
Hot Air confirmed it, but what does it have to do with the election?
Comment by Mitchell Blatt — October 23, 2008 @ 8:14 pm - October 23, 2008
I’m skeptical. The shiner looks wrong. The eye would normally look red, and there should be some inflammation around the area if it’s a fresh trauma.
Whether the attack happened or not, it couldn’t be more painful than this, the Black Eye Treatment!!! (NSFW)
PS. Yes this did crop up on google when I looked for black eye info.
Comment by sonicfrog — October 23, 2008 @ 8:18 pm - October 23, 2008
Here’s the link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/07/30/politics/p183214D06.DTL
But, really, given that there 300 million Americans, I don’t believe that either McCain or Obama should have to issue an apology for every crazy out there. It’s stupid. But we live in Lee Atwater’s world, right?
Comment by blakes — October 23, 2008 @ 8:19 pm - October 23, 2008
Is it my imagination, or is the “B” backwards, as if it was done in a mirror?
Comment by sonicfrog — October 23, 2008 @ 8:21 pm - October 23, 2008
thanks for finding the link, blakes. Now will you fault the media for going overboard when it was alleged that some McCain supporters said nasty things at a rally or two?
I agree with you that the candidates don’t need apologize for all their supporters’ inane remarks.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — October 23, 2008 @ 8:23 pm - October 23, 2008
I suggest that “Erik” be banned for using the “c word”. I don’t consider myself a prude but that word is offensive and has no place whatsoever in decent society. I’ve called out people who’ve used that term referring to women of the left so I’m bipartisan on this issue.
Re the victim… when I saw that on Drudge, the little voices told me that this was a bit suspicious. There have been plenty of kooks on the left who’ve faked attacks and hung nooses on their own doors for publicity. There’s nothing that says some on the right won’t pull the same stunts.
The police investigation could prove interesting.
Obama owes nothing here… he has (and will have) plenty of wrongs to apologize for but this isn’t one of them. I hope the McCain side lets this pass in silence.
Comment by SoCalRobert — October 23, 2008 @ 8:50 pm - October 23, 2008
“Of course it isn’t racist; whether or not one is a thug is determined by action, not skin color.”
I don’t think this has ever happened before but I totally agree with NDT on this one.
SoCalRobert, have you sent a letter chastising McCain for using that word?
Comment by Dave — October 23, 2008 @ 8:58 pm - October 23, 2008
I will probably end up looking like an ass (wouldn’t be the first time), but I’m skeptical.I have more thoughts on this here.
Comment by sonicfrog — October 23, 2008 @ 9:04 pm - October 23, 2008
I find myself very skeptical. As some of you have noticed the trauma to the eye is not right and the B is backwards…………and, she refused medical help.
Comment by Swampfox — October 23, 2008 @ 9:11 pm - October 23, 2008
Dave – I’ve not heard McCain say it. If I did, I would probably say something.
Comment by SoCalRobert — October 23, 2008 @ 9:16 pm - October 23, 2008
Unfortunately, “thug” is a common, stereotypical term directed at African-Americans. It’s also been a common term used by the McCain campaign and others against Obama.
Again, this is about Lee Atwater and the Willie Horton effect of connecting criminal behavior to blacks. Toss a word like “thug” at a black man is an easy way to connect him to a long history of racist imagery.
For instance, this article by Craig R. Smith is incredibly racist:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73276
Read the article and understand how he tried to connect stereotypes to Obama:
“I can see it now. Air Force One decked out with “22s” and spinners. Maybe even a set of hydraulics. Watching the hip-hop president in the Oval Office with his baseball cap on backward coping a gansta lean in the big chair. Should be really pimp, don’t you think? Cool man, real cool. Instead of giving away presidential cuff links to guests, as is the custom, he will offer “bling bling.”
I imagine a whole group of special advisers to the president sitting around the Oval Office discussing policy. Kanye West, 50 Cent and maybe even Eminem (to keep the diversity thing going), all sharing their life experiences with the prez to assist him in understanding his “peeps.”"
How vile is this? Very. The author decides to construct Obama purely on stereotypes based on a musical genre.
Hmm…How about constructing McCain based on Country Western archetypes of the cheating husband, etc.? Or what about some Rock and Roll heavy metal screed? McCain’s treatment of his first wife was enough to drive the Reagans away from him. His friendship with G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon who joked about killing federal agents?
One thing, as a Christian, I find humorous about the attacks based on association so easily is a total denial of Christ’s own experience working with beggars, prostitutes, etc.
On his deathbed, Lee Atwater was filled with great sorrow for his conduct and his legacy.
Comment by blakes — October 23, 2008 @ 9:37 pm - October 23, 2008
“This might be a Tawana Brawley moment for us Republicans.”
And the ‘B’ is backwards.
But, c’mon, the story fits the prevailing ‘thugocracy’ narrative!! Roll with it!!
Comment by jimmy — October 23, 2008 @ 10:02 pm - October 23, 2008
I said it on pajamas media and I’ll say it here:
have y’all ever heard of Innocent Until Proven Guilty (for the chick)? Or was that just a Parker Brothers game to y’all?
Nice to know crime and victims are just a game to some of you.
And should it be a hoax, and if the Dems use this to lord over McCain, I can guarantee that Obama will lose. People hate bullies and Obamabots have been the biggest bullies of all.
Comment by Rachel — October 23, 2008 @ 11:12 pm - October 23, 2008
No, jimmy, it’s not. If this is a fake (as it appears), you WILL NOT see Republican poo-bahs leading marches, inciting riots, and fomenting more racial hatred.
If there’s a conservative Al Sharpton, I can think who it is.
Comment by SoCalRobert — October 23, 2008 @ 11:14 pm - October 23, 2008
OK, I’ll give you that, IF you can find any instance of someone referring to Al Gore, John Kerry or Bill Clinton as a “thug” or Democrats in general as a “thugocracy” (prior to Obama’s nomination, of course). Because I don’t remember “thugocracy” being in common vernacular prior to his nomination.
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 12:05 am - October 24, 2008
Oh lord help me, Im gonna go balistic. I pity the person that calls Republicans racist to my face.
NO THUGocracy is not racist. THUG is word with a meaning, that had a meaning LONG before those in the hip hop community co-opted it a mere few years ago and it still has that meaning even so.
The racists in this country are primarily on the left. Those who think minorities need their benevolent white help because theyre too stupid/inferior to succeed on their own. The leftists that think being a “true” black or a “true” gay or a “true” [insert minority group here] means staying on the Democrat plantation, utterly dependent on government the same way Democrat slave owners kept slaves dependent on them.
THATS racist. Calling anyone who criticizes Obama or treats him like any other candidate ‘racist” is racist. Voting for an utterly unqualified man because of the color of his skin is racist. Not subjecting Obama to the same media scrutiny that any other candidate would get, is racist.
If Barack Obama wins he will be the very first “affirmative action president” in American history — elected to the highest NOT because he was qualified but because he got special treatment, and didnt have to pass the same tests that every other president in our history has.
And if he wins, his presidency will be marred by it from day one. No one will ever know if he could have been elected if the press reported about him responsibly, because they never did.
Comment by American Elephant — October 24, 2008 @ 12:37 am - October 24, 2008
And all I gotta say about the chick — her scars look awully superficial and amazingly well healed for someone who supposedly just had them cut into her face by a deranged madman just today.
Comment by American Elephant — October 24, 2008 @ 12:39 am - October 24, 2008
You’re the one implying that blacks are thugs more than anybody else. It’s even less racist than stating on national TV that blacks will riot if Comrade Obama doesn’t win. Because WE ALL KNOW that’s what blacks do when they don’t get their way, right Carville?
Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 24, 2008 @ 1:32 am - October 24, 2008
UPDATE: I drew a “B” on my face in the mirror. It comes out like a regular “B”.. BUT, if you don’t use a mirror, and you draw a “B” on your face, you are writing with the same movements you are used to when you write a “B”, and it comes out the same way hers does.
Comment by sonicfrog — October 24, 2008 @ 1:37 am - October 24, 2008
Best. Election. Ever.
Comment by torrentprime — October 24, 2008 @ 1:38 am - October 24, 2008
I don’t know, there is something hinky in her story.
A – She walked to go into her car while the alleged mugger
is still in the vicinity
B – How does the mugger know the car with the McCain sticker
is her car.
C – Shes beaten and the letter “B†is carved into her
face and yet she declines medical treatment.
Theres more to this story then she’s saying.
Comment by wildofski — October 24, 2008 @ 1:41 am - October 24, 2008
Yeah the party of slavery, segregation and the Klan hurls the race card at anybody who doesn’t genuflect. Win or lose, you can gleefully tell folks that you can’t possibly be a racist because you voted for “that black guy”.
Secondly, based on my many years experience as a medic, I can say that a lot of people don’t seek medical attention after an assault. I’m not surprised there. The echymosis (black eyes) don’t surprise me much. I should think that the “B” would be redder. Looks to me like it’s a few days old or dressed up for the camera.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 24, 2008 @ 2:12 am - October 24, 2008
You guys are just grasping at whatever straws you can find, huh?
God, I’m loving this
Comment by Dan — October 24, 2008 @ 2:44 am - October 24, 2008
well, torrent, if you guys win,remember you have to govern. And given the record of the Democratic Congress, well, don’t think your party’s up to it.
And may I remind you, the election is still ongoing. Back in 2004, Terry McAuliffe called it the best election night ever. A few hours later, he was eating the same thing the press ate after the election in 1948.
I’ll give you a hint. it’s a kind of bird.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — October 24, 2008 @ 2:52 am - October 24, 2008
Well, let’s see, liberals are committing widespread vote fraud, the mainstream media is pumping out their unadulterated propaganda, the youth are goosestepping and singing in time, Barack Obama is threatening anyone who criticizes him with prosecution, the socialists are threatening to riot in the streets if their candidate doesn’t win, entire industries are being nationalized….
…that’s the kind of election any fascist would love! Chavez and Castro ain’t got nothin on Democrats!
Comment by American Elephant — October 24, 2008 @ 4:48 am - October 24, 2008
Include me in the smell test catagory.
Trust, but Verify.
Comment by The Livewire — October 24, 2008 @ 6:55 am - October 24, 2008
Perhaps … she refused medical treatment because a trip to the emergency room would have cost her about $2500 dollars (ambulance, ER treatment/tests, 15 seconds with someone with an MD after their name).
Comment by Julie the Jarhead — October 24, 2008 @ 7:37 am - October 24, 2008
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One thing, as a Christian, I find humorous about the attacks based on association so easily is a total denial of Christ’s own experience working with beggars, prostitutes, etc.
Perhaps you missed it, but Jesus’s work was with repentant beggars and prostitutes and helping them stop what they were doing, not stealing from others to keep supporting their habit, like Barack Obama does.
Furthermore, blakes, if you want to see what racist truly looks like, you should see the behavior endorsed and supported by Barack Obama in this case.
Kinney later testified: “It happened so fast … I was like, I couldn’t believe this was happening.”
Referring to Kilpatrick as “Mr. Mayor,” Kinney said the mayor shouted at her: “You, a black woman being with a man with the last name White, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why are you a part of this?”
So according to Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi endorsee Kwame Kilpatrick, a black female police detective with a stellar record should be ashamed of herself for being with a man with the last name of White (who also happens to be white) and for daring to investigate a crime by a black man.
Turning this around, it would be the same as insisting that white people should be ashamed to be seen with black people and should never investigate other white people for crimes.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 12:04 pm - October 24, 2008
TGC: I took that off my list of skeptical issues. The more I re-thought that, I realize I have only seen a few black eyes in my lifetime – so what do I know about it.
That said, we now know she had a phone or blackberry with her. From this article:
So why didn’t she call the police right after the violent attack?
Comment by sonicfrog — October 24, 2008 @ 12:21 pm - October 24, 2008
I am withholding judgment on this one until it has been thoroughly investigated. It’s not that I have doubt about this specific incident, but that any “hate crime” merits doubt, as nearly all are made up.
Comment by rightwingprof — October 24, 2008 @ 12:30 pm - October 24, 2008
So why didn’t she call the police right after the violent attack?
Young woman, just been attacked, bad area, hurt.
Do you:
a) Call the police and stay in the spot where you were just attacked in the bad area?
or
b) Get into your car, drive to a safer area, and then call the police?
Sounds like a “b” to me.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 12:55 pm - October 24, 2008
Of course, this may all be redundant; police sources are saying that she made it all up.
If that’s true, she’d better be charged with a crime, because it is and should be one to lie to the police. Another dumb college kid who apparently needs to learn things the hard way.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 2:21 pm - October 24, 2008
Sorry NDT, she admitted it was a hoax. She’s being charged now.
But I know, it wasn’t racist at all to rush to link Obama to the story and tout it as an example of him and his followers being “thugs.”
Not racist at all. Right?
And the girl? She wasn’t racist for making up a story that attempted to link a racially incendiary attack to Obama. Right?!
No racism there!
Uh huh.
http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 2:22 pm - October 24, 2008
‘I’m shocked that the mere stating of facts in this news report isn’t being branded as “racistâ€.’
THE FACTS. LMAO. Oh, and the drama:
“First they came for the campaign volunteers, then the opposition party members, then the media, then …”
How many days will you wait before linking Drudge stories now? I’m guessing it doesn’t matter.
Comment by jimmy — October 24, 2008 @ 2:46 pm - October 24, 2008
The funny part, Erik, is that I pointed out that link over an hour before you did and condemned her behavior.
All you’re doing is demonstrating how desperate racists like yourself try to smear other people even when they condemn blatantly-racist behavior.
The problem here, as before, is that you equate any and all criticism of black people and their behavior with one being racist.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 2:52 pm - October 24, 2008
Whoops, not over an hour; I did post it before you did, though.
And that’s the difference between us, Erik; I was willing to point out how someone who was ostensibly of my ideology was wrong and condemn their behavior directly.
You aren’t.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 2:53 pm - October 24, 2008
And as for jimmy and Erik, there’s one last rejoinder: Ashley Todd is going to jail, but Crystal Mangum gets a book deal.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 2:57 pm - October 24, 2008
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Pingback by GayPatriot » The Hoax — October 24, 2008 @ 3:06 pm - October 24, 2008
Sometimes, there is no reward for being right. I hope she gets the help she needs.
Comment by sonicfrog — October 24, 2008 @ 4:18 pm - October 24, 2008
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Pingback by GayPatriot » The Hoax and the Hate — October 24, 2008 @ 7:18 pm - October 24, 2008
NDT (#48): I’ll bet that book flies off the shelf. I can’t wait. Do you suppose it will get a rave in the New York Times?
Of course, an Obama Ministry of Truth could make it required reading in the public schools.
Comment by SoCalRobert — October 24, 2008 @ 8:41 pm - October 24, 2008