The Hoax
Via the Corner, I learn that the woman who claimed she was assaulted by an Obama supporter in Pittsburgh made it all up.
She is facing charges for filing a false report with the police. Michelle Malkin was skeptical of this as were a number of conservatives, including readers of this blog as well as yours truly.
It’s sad the lengths to which some people go to draw attention to theirselves.
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And McCain is toast. I know it’s not fair, but this is going to reflect poorly on his campaign to the average voter. It’s also going to inoculate Obama against any other race-baiting attempts by the conservative media.
Poor Matt Drudge… his slippery slope towards irrelevancy just got a lot steeper.
Comment by Dan — October 24, 2008 @ 3:22 pm - October 24, 2008
So if an “Obama supporter” mugs someone, it is just part of Obama’s Thugocracy, but when a McCain supporter fakes being mugged, creating a nation-wide story out of thin air, it just shows how far some people go to draw attention to themselves? It shows nothing about McCain or what he is encouraging his supporters to do, right??
I think your analysis skills aren’t exactly logical.
Personally I say neither Obama nor McCain can be blamed for every single action every supporter does either way. But I’m not the one talking about a thugocracy…
Comment by B Man — October 24, 2008 @ 3:24 pm - October 24, 2008
And here too, where ya’ll were so eager to jump on the race baiting bandwagon, the front page branding Obama a coming “thugocracy.”
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 3:31 pm - October 24, 2008
GPW, if only lefties showed similar appropriate skepticism! Like the whole “kill him” hoax that the Secret Service debunked.
Oh, rubbish. The average voter won’t know or care. Furthermore, it has absolutely nothing to do with his campaign. If McCain is toast (and that may be true), it’s for entirely different reasons. Same with your Drudge comment. We know the gal over-played her hand; now it seems you’re over-playing yours. It must be catching!
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — October 24, 2008 @ 3:34 pm - October 24, 2008
Our politics continues its slide into the sewer!
And what is with the very first two comments here?
Dan, you’re overreacting with your “McCain is toast” comment.
Erik, you are a nut! Thug and thugocracy are not racial in any way. I think you need treatment for your paranoia.
Comment by Dave — October 24, 2008 @ 3:44 pm - October 24, 2008
… as well as treatment for his raging hatred of women.
Comment by Julie the Jarhead — October 24, 2008 @ 3:48 pm - October 24, 2008
Why would so many repubs instantly believe such a story?
Is it racism? Is it because violence is so near and dear to the republican heart? Or is it some sort of projection?
Comment by gillie — October 24, 2008 @ 3:56 pm - October 24, 2008
Heh, you guys don’t get it. It’s not this particular incident… it’s the ‘death by a thousand cuts’ thing. This, the makeup artist, the wardrobe costs, the stories about incessant infighting within McCain’s own camp, McCain’s brother and his big mouth, the fact that Joe the Plumber isn’t a plumber… or a registered voter… or even Joe for that matter…
He has no message. At least, if he does, it’s drowned out by all these stories. I’m not saying anything about the guy’s policies. I’m talking about his complete inability to articulate them to the public. And don’t give me that “liberal media in the tank” crap. That’s a copout argument coming from either side. Bush’s media handlers were far more adept then this lot of losers.
Comment by Dan — October 24, 2008 @ 4:04 pm - October 24, 2008
Please. “Thugocracy” is not a word. It is not in the dictionary. It is a recent invention by conservatives (see: Michael Barone) as a response to Obama’s candidacy. It is racist.
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 4:20 pm - October 24, 2008
I hope she gets the help she needs.
Comment by sonicfrog — October 24, 2008 @ 4:20 pm - October 24, 2008
gille, why did Dems so easily believe the stories of McCain supporters yelling “Kill Him” at campaign rallies when the evidence shows it never happened.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — October 24, 2008 @ 4:22 pm - October 24, 2008
Why would so many repubs instantly believe such a story?
Is it racism? Is it because violence is so near and dear to the republican heart? Or is it some sort of projection?
Methinks gillie is demonstrating nicely who is doing the projection around here.
Furthermore, the only people focusing on those things Dan mentioned are people like Dan himself, who are desperately trying to explain why they support a racist candidate who believes in taking money away from those who earn it to give to those who don’t and won’t.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 4:22 pm - October 24, 2008
Please. “Thugocracy†is not a word. It is not in the dictionary. It is a recent invention by conservatives (see: Michael Barone) as a response to Obama’s candidacy. It is racist.
Bye bye, Obamabot.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 4:25 pm - October 24, 2008
What? NDT, you’re spin is just cofnusing sometimes.
I was never so callous to link McCain to this girl, who is obviously a loser. His campaign was not pushing this story. But conservatives (like yourself) were pushing it online yesterday.
True or not, this is not reflective of Obama. Now that it’s proved to be false, it’s not reflective of McCain. But it IS reflective of the people who pushed it for political reasons. That would be the girl and others in the conservative media.
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 4:36 pm - October 24, 2008
GPW
Which time? The one in Scranton where they couldn’t find the person or the one in Flordia where its on youtube for the world to see but still can’t find the person?
Comment by gillie — October 24, 2008 @ 4:37 pm - October 24, 2008
#13 – “But conservatives (like yourself) were pushing it online yesterday”
Obviously they never read “To Kill A Mockingbird”
Comment by gillie — October 24, 2008 @ 4:39 pm - October 24, 2008
And just so I’m clear, I don’t think this girl is reflective of most of Senator McCain’s supporters. But yesterday, on this website and others, you were using an unnamed, faceless (and made up) criminal as reflective of ALL Obama supporters, as well as Senator Obama himself.
You were wrong to do that.
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 4:49 pm - October 24, 2008
This thing smelled from the start. But if some think the McCain election hinges on something as goofy as this, they are really worried more about Obama’s fingernail hold. These two are neck and neck and by all past norms, Obama should have a comfortable lead.
Comment by heliotrope — October 24, 2008 @ 4:51 pm - October 24, 2008
What? NDT, you’re spin is just cofnusing sometimes.
Erik, let me remind you of what you said previously.
Please. “Thugocracy†is not a word. It is not in the dictionary. It is a recent invention by conservatives (see: Michael Barone) as a response to Obama’s candidacy. It is racist.
However, as I demonstrated, Democrats were using “thugocracy” two years ago to refer to President Bush — which means it is neither recent nor a response to Obama’s candidacy, and is certainly not referring to skin color.
In short, the word is not racist. You just started screaming “racist” because the only thing Obamabots can do is scream “racist”, no matter how foolish or irrelevant it is.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 4:55 pm - October 24, 2008
@18 North Dallas Thirty
you’re right – thugocracy is not NECESSARILY racist – though I am sure some people use it with that in mind.
regardless – what does that matter? whether it was racist or not – you were attributing an imaginary act of violence to an entire group of people. Stating that Obama will run a criminal presidency AS EVIDENCED by an imaginary crime.
whether it was because race or not – you were wrong to attribute that to Obama and his supporters – even if it were true – but the fact that it is not, and the police had doubts from the beginning, shows how quick Conservatives that jumped on this were to condemn an entire group of people – for something that never happened.
Comment by dood — October 24, 2008 @ 5:02 pm - October 24, 2008
When you click your link it says “Sorry, no posts matched your criteria.”
Comment by Erik — October 24, 2008 @ 5:11 pm - October 24, 2008
And here’s the link again.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 5:21 pm - October 24, 2008
So in theory Erik believes that thugs can only be Black. Wow! Who’s the racist now?
Comment by OutliciousTV — October 24, 2008 @ 5:53 pm - October 24, 2008
regardless – what does that matter?
Well, you see, “dood”, Erik used the use of the word “thugocracy” to claim that we were all racists.
Now that I’ve pointed out that that is false, are you going to speak out and state that Erik was wrong, or just demonstrate what a hypocrite you are for supporting Erik’s claim that a group of people is racist based on his imaginary interpretation of a word?
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 24, 2008 @ 6:18 pm - October 24, 2008
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Pingback by GayPatriot » The Hoax and the Hate — October 24, 2008 @ 7:19 pm - October 24, 2008
Haven’t read the article, but why is it assumed she’s a McCain supporter? Has she claimed as much? And we believe her?
McCain’s ‘doneness’ should delight conservatives.
Comment by Ignatius — October 24, 2008 @ 7:31 pm - October 24, 2008
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Stupid race-baiting little girl got found out. It was fishy from the start.
Even better to know that she actually worked on the McCain campaign.
Comment by jonesey12 — October 24, 2008 @ 9:03 pm - October 24, 2008
Then why smear the guy? Why investigate him more than you do Comrade Obama? He’s one of the “little guys” that liberals claim to give a crap about. Why trash him? Why run the risk of alienating other “little guys” who haven’t decided?
I’ll tell you one damn thing that we DO know is that he’s comfortable with his middle name, unlike a certain liberal running for POTUS.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 25, 2008 @ 12:48 am - October 25, 2008
I’d be willing to bet that you haven’t. Not only that, it seems that neither you nor any of your fellow Obama felchers know what “racist” means just like none of you know what “fascist” means. Clearly you use it a lot because “it sounds really cool!”.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 25, 2008 @ 12:56 am - October 25, 2008
Here are two recent articles about alleged attacks against Obama campaign workers:
http://www.wisn.com/politics/17754232/detail.html
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/09/obama_campaign_worker_attacked.html
I’m not suggesting either of them is lying because I don’t have enough facts. I just find it peculiar that the media isn’t following up to determine the legitimacy of these claims. Getting indignant about imaginary “hatred” is becoming as sickening as hatred itself.
Also in the news today was the story of a black man in Texas who was run over and “dragged” by the vehicle. The media and blacks immediately conjured up the memory of James Byrd who was intentionally tied to a vehicle and dragged to his death.
I’m not saying the people who ran this man over aren’t murderers – I don’t have enough facts to decide. I’m just shocked at how quickly the hue and cry of “racism” and “hate crime” leaps forth whenever a black man dies at the hands of a white person. The fact of the matter is that blacks kill whites at TWICE the rate that whites kill blacks and 96% of blacks are killed by other blacks.
After James Byrd was killed, liberals attacked Governor George W. Bush for not signing a “hate crime” law. I suppose the three guilty verdicts with two death sentences and one life sentence for the perpetrators of that murder weren’t sufficient punishments for them.
Comment by POWinCA — October 25, 2008 @ 4:23 am - October 25, 2008
Uh, no its not.
mmm, not gonna do that either.
LOL. seriously, LOL.
um, what make-up artist?
pfft, hardly. shes even hotter than before.
um, what stories?
McCain has a brother? I know Obama has a brother who lives on pennies a day in a shack in Africa, had no idea McCain had a brother and I’m a political junkie
Not anymore, thanks to the Obama thugocracy seeking to destroy a private citizen for asking a question that made their candidate look bad.
yes he is.
yes he is. he goes by his middle name. Joe is his middle name. Next you’ll be telling us Stephen Grover Cleveland wasn’t Grover, John Calvin Coolidge wasn’t Calvin, Thomas Woodrow Wilson wasn’t Woodrow and Hiram Ulysses S Grant wasn’t Ulysses.
Only if you’re a basement dwelling Daily Kossack or Democrat Undergrounder. No one outside the libtard base has even heard most of these, and NO one outside the rabid, mouth-frothing left could give a rats ass about them. But you bitter lefties cling to them like Bibles and shotguns cus they’re all you got.
Wrong again! Pew Research Poll from Oct 22nd:
Voters overwhelmingly believe that the media wants Barack Obama to win the presidential election. By a margin of 70%-9%, Americans say most journalists want to see Obama, not John McCain, win on Nov. 4.”
You could quite possibly be the most inept political commentator to every walk the face of the Earth. seriously.
Comment by American Elephant — October 25, 2008 @ 5:18 am - October 25, 2008
“You could quite possibly be the most inept political commentator to every walk the face of the Earth. seriously.”
No, he’s not. Unfortunately that role goes to the guy running for president
Comment by The Livewire — October 25, 2008 @ 11:23 am - October 25, 2008
Keep dreaming, elephant. Why are people fleeing the GOP ship in droves (Carlson, Powell, Buckley, etc…)?
The GOP is a party in crisis. Some of your guys want to stay loyal to Bush and his neocon driven policies. This has proven difficult in the wake of his historically low approval ratings. Some of your guys want to return a more old-school Reaganesque version of conservatism. And some of your guys just want to shout JEEBUS at the top of their lungs.
[You have absolutely no clue what's going on in the GOP. Should the Democrats win this fall, we'll see come next spring how much in crisis they are. Bush's blunders and the financial meltdown have prevented us from seeing Democratic divisions, sure to surface should they control Congress adn the White House. --Dan]
Given all this chaos, it’s not surprising McCain is having trouble crafting and propagating a consistent message. My thesis is that, had he more competent PR folks, he might be able to manage this message a little better. But he’s got a pretty incompetent group of people advising him, so his campaign looks every bit as disorganized as it really is. Obama’s campaign, on the other hand, is operating with an almost frightening level of precision and organization. Pretty unusual for a democratic candidate.
[McCain's message problem has little do with some kind of Republican crisis and a lot to do with his own campaign style. I ask you this, would the Obama operation be so smooth if the media were more critical? --Dan]
And regarding some your earlier responses…
The makeup artist (incidentally, the highest paid member of McCain campaign the first half of October) http://www.ajc.com/services/content/news/stories/2008/10/25/pebriefs.html
Regarding the clothes. I don’t deny it – she does look much better post-makeover. But is this a politically astute move? She’s supposed to be the everyday hockey mom and she just spend more on clothes in one month than Joe the Plumber spent on his friggin house? Really? http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10795224
Regarding McCain’s brother: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRWsUk14Wl7f42nDYetTT8-6PR3wD94177F80
Regarding Joe the Plumber… My main point here is this guy clearly wasn’t vetted. He could have been a great campaigning point. Were Rove running this campaign, however, you can bet your ass they would’ve thoroughly vetted this guy. Owes back taxes? Isn’t really a plumber?
[So, why are we supposed to "vet" someone who just asks a question of a presidential candidate? Is he running for office? Do his imperfections diminish his concerns? --Dan]
And regarding the registration issue – http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Purging_Joe_the_plumber.html
OK, yes, he is registered. But under the “zero tolerance” voter fraud laws advanced by the Ohio GOP, he might be denied a vote.
I think this site is possibly the only collection of people that isn’t aware of just how poorly McCain’s campaign is being run.
Comment by Dan — October 25, 2008 @ 1:50 pm - October 25, 2008
#31: Next they’ll be telling me that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t really Stanley.
Comment by Attmay — October 25, 2008 @ 6:02 pm - October 25, 2008
She also tried similar BS when she was working on the Ron Paul campaign:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08299/922849-53.stm
A liar and a Ron Paul supporter. I’m glad I didn’t get worked up over nothing.
We shouldn’t have to make stuff up to make Obama look bad. He supplies all the ammo we need by himself.
Comment by Attmay — October 25, 2008 @ 6:08 pm - October 25, 2008
Oh i never claimed McCain’s campaign wasnt being run poorly. It is! Nor did I claim that your stories werent actually reported on. I just claim that no one has heard about them, and of the few that have, no one but Daily Kossacks gives a rats ass. Furthermore, I claimed all your other observations were asinine. They were, and they remain so. Drudge going down! lol. seriously. Thats simply detached from reality.
And the idea that the GOP is in crisis because of three beltway socialites, who happen to be the same f–ktards who pushed McCain as our candidate in the first place, is risible as well. We’ve got much higher profile Democrats supporting McCain. And all the polls consistently show McCain/Palin are supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Obama/Biden are Democrats.
You are simply not operating in the real world.
Comment by American Elephant — October 26, 2008 @ 4:38 am - October 26, 2008