So, the death-wishe*r*s on the Left (and perhaps the Ron Paul Right) want to see America and capitalism “changed” – i.e., turned into something else – i.e., punished. Any[] move to defend America and/or capitalism from actual enemies, they oppose.

Republicans might not have liked Dollar Bill, but I don’t recall them ever supporting America’s enemies in time of war

Exactly.

America and capitalism – by which I mean REAL capitalism, the small government / free enterprise system where people suffer the consequences of their mistakes and there are no government bailouts – have enabled a world order where six billion people can live. They have nourished and enabled everyone’s lives. So, the death-wishes on the Left (and perhaps the Ron Paul Right) want to see America and capitalism “changed” – i.e., turned into something else – i.e., punished. Anything move to defend America and/or capitalism from actual enemies, they oppose.

For example, in the view of these people, terrorists must be engaged only *after* having succeeded in killing many thousand Americans. Not before. In effect, the first order of business is for Americans to suffer and die; then we can talk about a highly limited, ineffective response. Or else a response so nutty – like invading sovereign, nuclear Pakistan – that of course it shouldn’t and won’t be tried.

Historians say that all civilizations develop a death wish, after awhile. I just wish it didn’t have to happen to one as good as ours, in my or my nephews’ lifetimes.

Whereas with Democrats, it is perfectly acceptable to harm the nation if it means one on the eye for Bushie McHalliburton, because the ends justify the means.

I wouldn’t say that The Snob has a Messiah complex; actually, he has more of a Mohammed complex. Consider:

1. Neither man’s followers want to have him mocked or questioned in any way.
2. If you decide to disobey #1, a fatwah will be issued on you (i.e. Salman Rushdie and Joe the Plumber).
3. A whole religion has sprouted among both of them.

Think this is a coincidence?

Regards,
Peter H.

What about the book and movie “Primary Colors”?

As I recall, he lived. It’s been a while, but I never got the impression that it really reflected the Clintons that much, but I didn’t pay much attention in those days. If the Clintons had information of an opponent’s gay tryst, I have no reason to believe that they would bury it.

BTW, I’ve spent an entire night on the front porch of Oak Alley Plantation discussing life, the universe and everything.

Call me silly, but calling John Edwards a “fag” was not an act of love.

You’re silly. Who called him a fag?

why not have a real conversation that addresses all of the facts?

Y’all come back when you get some, hear?

But there you have it, blind hatred versus blind love. What will happen when they meet the real obama who is nothing like the charicature they have created in their minds?

What victimology? Pointing out the facts if victimology? There’s a part of sarcasm in this post, not whining.

Don’t like George W. Bush? Oh, give me a break. It’s beyond just not liking the guy. People calling themselves Bush-haters. Going into paroxysms of anger every time his name is raised, calling him the worst president ever, calling him evil, comparing him to Hitler.

Swiftboating has only become “a recognizable word for destroying a political opponent through vicious slander” because the left-leaning media has made it so. Go check out the ads of the Swift boat vets. You won’t find slander. Slander requires a false statement. And you won’t find such falsity there.

There’s more deception in the average Obama ad.

You write about a right which only exists on left-wing blogs. We don’t have blind devotion to “anointed leaders.” Note the conservative criticism of Sarah Palin. Go read the conservative blogs or conservative press to get some serious criticism of George W. Bush, faulting him for such things as cronyism and his spendthrift ways.

That nasty campaigning has been part and parcel of American politics since the infancy of the Republic doesn’t make them right.

In this post, I discuss a phenomenon of the “need” of some on the left to demonize a Republican. I agree there are some kooks on the right. But, can you tell me when an editorialist has received a slew of hate mail for defending the character of a Democrat? Or a pollster for releasing a poll showing a Democrat ahead?

I agree we should have a conversation addressing all the facts. So, please acknowledge the errors in your comment and the venom your side so readily spews at conservatives.

And a better world we will have for it.

Again, what is with this crybaby, woe-is-me victimology? So, what if some people don’t like George W. Bush? You say it’s unreasonable but provide no clear evidence of that. Some people cite satirical books as “hate.” How about some Obama Waffles or Hillary nutcrackers for you?

Also, what is up with the amnesia here: Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck make millions of dollars spewing hate directed at liberals or “librul,” if you prefer. Call me silly, but calling John Edwards a “fag” was not an act of love. “Swiftboating” is now a recognizable word for destroying a political opponent through vicious slander.

There is this fellow named Karl Rove. What is his specialty? Prior to Rove, there was a gentleman named Lee Atwater. Does his name ring a bell?

Part of what saddens me about the Right is the requirement of blind devotion to anointed leaders. Where was the serious criticism of Bush’s clear abuses of power? Imperial presidency? Why did conservatives not revolt when that line of thinking arose? Where was the outrage over Bush’s refusal to find Osama bin Laden? When did war-profiteering become an honorable for business?

Look at the death threats that Kathleen Parker received after rejecting Palin. Do you think those exist in a vacuum? Have you ventured to Freeper land?

Look at the “gay marriage” fright-machine that the GOP used in 2004 to get out the vote. That’s not “hate”? Thousands of mailers were sent to scare voters to the polls. State constitutional amendments or other legislation were all popped onto the ballot to get scared, hateful bigots to fight against the gays.

If you are going to have a conversation about “hate,” why not have a real conversation that addresses all of the facts? Why not discuss the extremes on both sides?

P.S.
Let’s try to remember that back in Jefferson’s day, his opponents wrote nasty songs (“Dusky Sally”) about Jefferson’s cruel, years’ long affair with his wife’s sister, Sally Hemmings.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/video/report4.html

I’d venture it’s only a small minority on both sides that get obnoxiously worked up about this stuff

VtheK, I wish that were so, but there is not a situation where I am not on my toes, because invariably politics comes up, and the vicious remarks come out.
It always involves personal attacks, lately not so much Bush – it’s all been transfered to Palin.

It also drives me crazy that service people, like waiters, or hairdressers proudly display all their Obama paraphernalia. Where is the old adage to keep politics out?
It is obvious to me that these people are not looking to start a dialog – they’d probably want nothing better than a fight.

I think it’s a fact of life that people need something to hate. It’s human nature. The need to hate varies among people and some manage it better than others.

#6: I suspect that no publisher would dare publish anything poking fun at The Messiah.

Our courageous media dummied up pretty quickly when some cartoons caused a furor a couple of years ago.

#5: V – I don’t hate Bush – but I am tired of him. A lot of our troubles stem from his mishandling of Iraq, immigration, and his willful negligence in dealing with the opposing party. I can understand the pap about protecting the “dignity of the office” and all that but talk about a doormat.

The president can’t respond to everything the opposition says but, geez, he said almost nothing. If the man can’t respond to slurs from the likes of Jack Murtha and Dick Durbin then, well, he’s not up to the job. His negligence demoralizes the country and the troops and strengthens our enemies.

I figure that if a president sends men to kill and be killed then he can damn sure defend the mission – even if it means offending his pals on the left. If he’s not willing to risk political capital then what business does he have risking blood and treasure?

I don’t recall hating Clinton. I didn’t trust him and I thought him dishonest (in an amusing way sometimes – especially the finger-wagging) but I didn’t live my life, like helio’s friend, in a corrosive strew of CDS.

When we depend on government for happiness then we’re doomed.

But does the fact that I hate Bush make me so deranged that I’ll embrace a radical socialist for president? No. Does it drive me into a spitting rage every time his name is mentioned? No. Does it make me buy into insane conspiracy theories that Bush blew up the WTC? No. Does it make me wish for Bush and Cheney’s death? Certainly not.

I do have some thoughts about our political system and some of the people in it that are very much beyond the pale. I don’t say them out loud. I don’t write them on a public blog. That others feel free to spout things about Bush that are insane, violent, and deranged indicates to me that there is much more tolerance for this kind of stuff out there in the precincts of the left.

He has made himself sick and lonely, because even like minded political paranoids get worn down by his foolishness. It occurs to me that he feels abandoned by the mommy state and it is the fault of rich, greedy, cold-hearted Republicans.

I helped him get his wife on Social Security disability. Now he is screaming about the donut hole in her government prescription drug welfare. He will admit that his medical expenses have been cut to the bone, but he can’t stand that he has to have $4,000 to get her through the medicine donut hole.

He is so wrapped up in his political persecution paranoia that I do not think Obama and a super majority Congress and a liberal court system can save him. He will look back on the horrible Republicans of the past and those remaining as the root of all evil and roadblocks to his health and happiness.

He is not much different from the little letter people who keep peeing through the keyhole on this site.