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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; On Economy, Obama Promises More of the Same</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; On Economy, Obama Promises More of the Same</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] domestic issues at least, instead of change from the last eight years, we&#8217;ll be getting more of the same.Â  Let&#8217;s call Obama&#8217;s stimulus what it is, Bush&#8217;s economic policies with a face [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] domestic issues at least, instead of change from the last eight years, we&#8217;ll be getting more of the same.Â  Let&#8217;s call Obama&#8217;s stimulus what it is, Bush&#8217;s economic policies with a face [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hmmmm, I&#039;ve seen far too much Democrat wagon-circling to believe that. Or perhaps I misunderstand you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmmm, I&#8217;ve seen far too much Democrat wagon-circling to believe that. Or perhaps I misunderstand you.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; An interesting irony of this election:Hillary supporter links Rush Limbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; An interesting irony of this election:Hillary supporter links Rush Limbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain finally adopts the _Atlas Shrugged_ type of populism he needs to win:&lt;blockquote&gt;Senator Obama is running to be Redistributionist in Chief. I&#039;m running to be Commander in Chief. Senator Obama is running to spread the wealth. I&#039;m running to create more wealth. Senator Obama is running to punish the successful. I&#039;m running to make everyone successful.&lt;/blockquote&gt;As the Powerline guys say: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021905.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; A Winning Message, But Is It Too Late?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain finally adopts the _Atlas Shrugged_ type of populism he needs to win:<br />
<blockquote>Senator Obama is running to be Redistributionist in Chief. I&#8217;m running to be Commander in Chief. Senator Obama is running to spread the wealth. I&#8217;m running to create more wealth. Senator Obama is running to punish the successful. I&#8217;m running to make everyone successful.</p></blockquote>
<p>As the Powerline guys say: <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021905.php" rel="nofollow"> A Winning Message, But Is It Too Late?</a></p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V the K:  Obama would dazzle the Congressional superstars for only so long. The type-A personalities will stay low-key only so long as he is useful. But an Obama White House will eventually step on enough Congressional toes to cause a rift. There is always a natural tension between the Executive and Legislative Branches, even when they are in the same family. Republicans rolled over for Bush on huge government spending. But Congressional Democrats will eventually take a bite out of Obama. Obama does not really lead. He blathers. At some point, he will direct blame at the Congress in order to shed his own responsibility. I am predicting that when that begins, he will bunker down and get defensive. Barney, Pelosi, Schumer, Leahy, Boxer, Feinstein, Dingall, Conyers, Clinton, and sundry crooks and liars are going to swarm the power vacuum he has created. They did it to Truman. They did it to Johnson and they certainly did it to Carter. Clinton lucked out by being able to cuddle up to a Republican Congress. But Obama will have two Democrat trains heading down the track at each other. I predict he will fall off the tracks first.

Hopefully, McCain will pull off a victory and all my speculation will be for naught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V the K:  Obama would dazzle the Congressional superstars for only so long. The type-A personalities will stay low-key only so long as he is useful. But an Obama White House will eventually step on enough Congressional toes to cause a rift. There is always a natural tension between the Executive and Legislative Branches, even when they are in the same family. Republicans rolled over for Bush on huge government spending. But Congressional Democrats will eventually take a bite out of Obama. Obama does not really lead. He blathers. At some point, he will direct blame at the Congress in order to shed his own responsibility. I am predicting that when that begins, he will bunker down and get defensive. Barney, Pelosi, Schumer, Leahy, Boxer, Feinstein, Dingall, Conyers, Clinton, and sundry crooks and liars are going to swarm the power vacuum he has created. They did it to Truman. They did it to Johnson and they certainly did it to Carter. Clinton lucked out by being able to cuddle up to a Republican Congress. But Obama will have two Democrat trains heading down the track at each other. I predict he will fall off the tracks first.</p>
<p>Hopefully, McCain will pull off a victory and all my speculation will be for naught.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is in bed - to a rather greater degree than McCain - with the Goldman-Sachs type of Wall Street special interests who love being bailed out at the expense of the world&#039;s honest business people:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/video-cbs-follows-obamas-money/

I&#039;m not sure how that affects my question at #2.  After all, some German business people felt the need to get in bed with Hitler, as he rose.&lt;blockquote&gt;
Barney Frank is already touting a Keynesian pump mega-priming to flood the economy with welfare deficit spending. The Democrats really believe that the government can spend the treasury down and tax people into prosperity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I can&#039;t wait (/sarc) to see how the Democrats react when foreigners suddenly and finally stop buying into the scam, simultaneously crashing the dollar and sending our interest rates through the roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is in bed &#8211; to a rather greater degree than McCain &#8211; with the Goldman-Sachs type of Wall Street special interests who love being bailed out at the expense of the world&#8217;s honest business people:</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/video-cbs-follows-obamas-money/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/video-cbs-follows-obamas-money/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how that affects my question at #2.  After all, some German business people felt the need to get in bed with Hitler, as he rose.<br />
<blockquote>
Barney Frank is already touting a Keynesian pump mega-priming to flood the economy with welfare deficit spending. The Democrats really believe that the government can spend the treasury down and tax people into prosperity.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait (/sarc) to see how the Democrats react when foreigners suddenly and finally stop buying into the scam, simultaneously crashing the dollar and sending our interest rates through the roof.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy. &lt;/i&gt;

Not sure if this will happen. But I do wonder what Hillary will do. Is she going to go along with the Obamassiah, or is she already plotting his downfall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy. </i></p>
<p>Not sure if this will happen. But I do wonder what Hillary will do. Is she going to go along with the Obamassiah, or is she already plotting his downfall?</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I just get spam filtered again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I just get spam filtered again?</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney Frank is already touting a Keynesian pump mega-priming to flood the economy with welfare deficit spending. The Democrats really believe that the government can spend the treasury down and tax people into prosperity.

Why, oh why, wouldn&#039;t that work for people in foreclosure? If you can&#039;t afford your bills, why not go on a spending spree and cause your income to rise and your indebtedness to disappear?

A &quot;President&quot; Obama will team with Frank/Pelosi/Reid to replace the tax code, punish corporations they think they don&#039;t like, strip the military, pull the troops out but maintain the war spending for welfare goodies.

The House and the Senate are full of Democrat Party long knives who secretly (for now) are plotting to eat Obama&#039;s lunch. First, they will trade their support for massive amounts of pork and personal gain. But eventually, they will &quot;Carterize&quot; him.

We will have a rough economy and job loss all of which they will continually blame on Bush/Cheney. How long the MSM will track with that theme is anyone&#039;s guess.

Liberals do not see their speech as threatened since they control the MSM. Anyone who has ever watched &quot;The View&quot; even once has seen the mainstream liberal concept of reality. There are plenty of viewers who cheer &quot;The View&quot; girls on while wishing they didn&#039;t have to listen to the stupid conservative one. An Obama speech code will punish controversy and disagreement.

It is hard to know if Obama believes all the bunk he babbles or is conditioned to making his sycophants drool. But eventually, the &quot;hoi-polloi&quot; who have swallowed his Kool-Aid will discover that things got worse and they didn&#039;t get squat. At that point, Obama will have to take responsibility, which he is genetically incapable of doing.

As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy. 

The huge state retirement funds and university endowment funds will begin to bleed and tuitions will rise and states will have to raise taxes and people will begin to remember that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

I met a guy in New Zealand who had moved there from South Africa. (He &quot;escaped&quot; the economy of South Africa.) He had a store in a dying town where he was &quot;selling&quot; beach pebbles on which he had painted flowers, slogans and faces. The New Zealand government subsidized this guy&#039;s business, living expenses, etc. as an artist who was helping the economy of a basically dead town. It is the most remarkable socialism scam I have ever encountered. His lifestyle was not very high, but it was enormously secure.

How many welfare piglets are willing to line up at the sow in the United States? Bread and circuses have never kept people free. We are on the brink of Oligarchy and Acorn is signing up piglets at record rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney Frank is already touting a Keynesian pump mega-priming to flood the economy with welfare deficit spending. The Democrats really believe that the government can spend the treasury down and tax people into prosperity.</p>
<p>Why, oh why, wouldn&#8217;t that work for people in foreclosure? If you can&#8217;t afford your bills, why not go on a spending spree and cause your income to rise and your indebtedness to disappear?</p>
<p>A &#8220;President&#8221; Obama will team with Frank/Pelosi/Reid to replace the tax code, punish corporations they think they don&#8217;t like, strip the military, pull the troops out but maintain the war spending for welfare goodies.</p>
<p>The House and the Senate are full of Democrat Party long knives who secretly (for now) are plotting to eat Obama&#8217;s lunch. First, they will trade their support for massive amounts of pork and personal gain. But eventually, they will &#8220;Carterize&#8221; him.</p>
<p>We will have a rough economy and job loss all of which they will continually blame on Bush/Cheney. How long the MSM will track with that theme is anyone&#8217;s guess.</p>
<p>Liberals do not see their speech as threatened since they control the MSM. Anyone who has ever watched &#8220;The View&#8221; even once has seen the mainstream liberal concept of reality. There are plenty of viewers who cheer &#8220;The View&#8221; girls on while wishing they didn&#8217;t have to listen to the stupid conservative one. An Obama speech code will punish controversy and disagreement.</p>
<p>It is hard to know if Obama believes all the bunk he babbles or is conditioned to making his sycophants drool. But eventually, the &#8220;hoi-polloi&#8221; who have swallowed his Kool-Aid will discover that things got worse and they didn&#8217;t get squat. At that point, Obama will have to take responsibility, which he is genetically incapable of doing.</p>
<p>As soon as Obama bleeds, the Democrat party sharks he swims with will attack in a feeding frenzy. </p>
<p>The huge state retirement funds and university endowment funds will begin to bleed and tuitions will rise and states will have to raise taxes and people will begin to remember that there is no such thing as a free lunch.</p>
<p>I met a guy in New Zealand who had moved there from South Africa. (He &#8220;escaped&#8221; the economy of South Africa.) He had a store in a dying town where he was &#8220;selling&#8221; beach pebbles on which he had painted flowers, slogans and faces. The New Zealand government subsidized this guy&#8217;s business, living expenses, etc. as an artist who was helping the economy of a basically dead town. It is the most remarkable socialism scam I have ever encountered. His lifestyle was not very high, but it was enormously secure.</p>
<p>How many welfare piglets are willing to line up at the sow in the United States? Bread and circuses have never kept people free. We are on the brink of Oligarchy and Acorn is signing up piglets at record rates.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most politicians will sell out what they don&#039;t really care about to protect what they do. I always suspected McCain would sell out conservatives on judges and taxes in order to get his way with the Democrat Congress on Amnesty and Iraq policy. 

I suspect Obama does not know how to compromise. He has never had to in the past, and with a filibuster-proof senate majority, he will not have to. This is why I think he will over-reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most politicians will sell out what they don&#8217;t really care about to protect what they do. I always suspected McCain would sell out conservatives on judges and taxes in order to get his way with the Democrat Congress on Amnesty and Iraq policy. </p>
<p>I suspect Obama does not know how to compromise. He has never had to in the past, and with a filibuster-proof senate majority, he will not have to. This is why I think he will over-reach.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Obama a pragmatist, who won&#039;t hesitate to ignore his left-wing base (knowing they have nowhere else to go), as Clinton did in order to secure poll ratings and re-election?  Or is Obama a New Party, Jeremiah Wright socialist as suggested by his pre-2008 track record and speeches?

Will Obama abandon Iraq to the enemies of human freedom?  And will he raise taxes in a recession, sending the country into a new Depression?  Or will he explain reality to his moonbat base, giving them a &quot;come to Jesus&quot; moment on both issues?

Or will McCain-Palin win after all?  Stay tuned for hindsight, coming your way in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama a pragmatist, who won&#8217;t hesitate to ignore his left-wing base (knowing they have nowhere else to go), as Clinton did in order to secure poll ratings and re-election?  Or is Obama a New Party, Jeremiah Wright socialist as suggested by his pre-2008 track record and speeches?</p>
<p>Will Obama abandon Iraq to the enemies of human freedom?  And will he raise taxes in a recession, sending the country into a new Depression?  Or will he explain reality to his moonbat base, giving them a &#8220;come to Jesus&#8221; moment on both issues?</p>
<p>Or will McCain-Palin win after all?  Stay tuned for hindsight, coming your way in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama Regime could yet be successful, but in order to do so, he will have to restrain his Marxist tendencies and govern moderately. There is no indication that he, or the Democrats in Congress, are likely to do either. 

Because the country is still broadly center-right, an over-reach by the Democrat left could provide an opportunity to rebuild the Republican party and the conservative coalition. If we can restrain Obama&#039;s fascist tendencies --- and that&#039;s a mighty big if --- it might be better in the long run to rip this socialist band-aid off all at once instead of slow-bleeding through four years of a McCain-Democrat congress. And I want to emphasize &lt;b&gt;Might be&lt;/b&gt;. 

Is November 5th too soon to start building Sarah&#039;s Army, to begin thinking about how to take back the Congress, or at least win back lost ground, in 2010... and then the White House in 2012? That&#039;s where I am. I&#039;ve written my November 5 blog-post as a call to arms, and am preparing a letter to Mrs. Palin offering unlimited support... provided she wants support from a circus clown like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama Regime could yet be successful, but in order to do so, he will have to restrain his Marxist tendencies and govern moderately. There is no indication that he, or the Democrats in Congress, are likely to do either. </p>
<p>Because the country is still broadly center-right, an over-reach by the Democrat left could provide an opportunity to rebuild the Republican party and the conservative coalition. If we can restrain Obama&#8217;s fascist tendencies &#8212; and that&#8217;s a mighty big if &#8212; it might be better in the long run to rip this socialist band-aid off all at once instead of slow-bleeding through four years of a McCain-Democrat congress. And I want to emphasize <b>Might be</b>. </p>
<p>Is November 5th too soon to start building Sarah&#8217;s Army, to begin thinking about how to take back the Congress, or at least win back lost ground, in 2010&#8230; and then the White House in 2012? That&#8217;s where I am. I&#8217;ve written my November 5 blog-post as a call to arms, and am preparing a letter to Mrs. Palin offering unlimited support&#8230; provided she wants support from a circus clown like me.</p>
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