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Will Libertarian Ideas Decide Fate of Prop. 8?

While Dick Morris expects undecideds to break for McCain, I’ve been trying to figure out how they’ll break on Proposition 8.   I wonder if some who indicate they’re undecided have already made up their mind, but refuse to tell pollsters because they fear they won’t give the response, they expect, the pollster wants to hear.

That could mean “Yes” is a stronger position than the polls indicate.

Or, could those undecided voters do what I (and other Californians) do when they’re uncertain about ballot propositions, vote “No.”  Or, given the number of issues on this year’s ballot in the Golden State, will they not even get that far and not vote in that race?

In the end, Californians being who we are, I think it’ll boil down to a libertarian argument.  If undecideds see the initiative as preventing gay people from exercising their freedom, then they’ll vote against it.  If the see state recognition of gay marriage as forcing us to accept gay marriage, they’ll vote in favor.

Both sides played in this “libertarian” notion.  The first “Yes” ad using San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom’s words to say we’d get gay marriage “whether we liked it or not.”  The third “No” ad showed respect for opponents of gay marriage with this line, “Because regardless of how you feel about marriage, it’s wrong to treat people differently under the law.”

The “No” side would be in a better position had it built on that notion, showing a respect for those who believe marriage is between one man and one woman, but, at the same time, don’t want to prevent same-sex couples from seeking state recognition of their unions.

That’s why I believe the “No” side would have been better served had it used freedom or liberty in its slogan, instead of equality.

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  1. Lots of “Yes on 8″ signs in north San Diego county and we saw people out walking this evening holding the “Yes” signs over their heads. Families were out over the weekend waving the signs at intersections. I don’t think SD voters will provide a lot of support.

    That’s why I believe the “No” side would have been better served had it used freedom or liberty in its slogan, instead of equality.

    Precisely. The equal rights argument is a loser… given the courts, it’s not hard to believe that some judge somewhere would spot a right to polygamy lurking in the penumbras and emanations. The argument should have been the benefit to the society at-large.

    Thanks a lot to Gavin Newsom and the judges who took it on themselves to “fix” the mistake the voters made last time round.

    I would like to know why we’d take this issue to the courts having seen what’s happened in just about every other state in reaction to court rulings (e.g. in KS and OK where voters made a preemptive strike in reaction to MA court rulings).

    Comment by SoCalRobert — October 30, 2008 @ 11:46 pm - October 30, 2008

  2. While Dick Morris expects undecideds to break for McCain

    Uh oh! This is the same guy who published a book claiming only Condaleeza Rice could prevent Hillary from becoming the next president. Just out of curiosity, has anyone notived him ever be right about anything?

    Comment by American Elephant — October 31, 2008 @ 6:17 am - October 31, 2008

  3. Why call a committed relationship between two persons of the same sex the same as a committed relationship between the two persons of the opposite sex. Let gay couple have all the same rights (which they do, therefore it is not discriminatory) but don’t call it “marriage.” Don’t call it marriage because it is not the same thing. On one hand it is same sex and on the other it is opposite sex. If I am a man and I want to use the women’s restroom, is it discrimination because other women are allowed to use the women’s restroom? No, because there are fundamental differences between men and women. The fundamental difference between gay couples and heterosexual couples is the gender make up of the couple.

    Comment by Todd — October 31, 2008 @ 1:37 pm - October 31, 2008

  4. “Because regardless of how you feel about marriage, it’s wrong to treat people differently under the law.”

    That is one scary sentence. How I feel about marriage? It’s wrong to treat people differently under the law? Who writes this crap?

    Comment by Ignatius — October 31, 2008 @ 7:46 pm - October 31, 2008

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