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Our Long Conservative Nightmare is Over

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 11:53 am - November 5, 2008.
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Shortly after George H.W. Bush lost his bid for reelection in 1992, I began an op-ed for the Virginia Law Weekly, the newspaper of the University of Virgnia School of Law where I was then a student.  I had titled it, “Our long Conservative Nightmare is Over,” paraphrasing Gerald Ford’s speech upon assuming the presidency when Nixon resigned.  (Due to my academic and extracurricular obligations, I did not have time to complete that essay.)

It had been tough to be conservative during the first (and only) term of the first President Bush as it has during the second term of the second.  Each man was the titular head of the supposedly conservative party, but neither governed, at least on domestic issues, as a conservative.

Neither held the line on domestic spending.  Both increased the size and scope of the federal government.

And yet, they were both decent men who love this country.

We wanted to criticize them and often did, but remained aware that the “official” opposition was even less conservative than they.  How could we advance our ideas when we had little control over the vehicle best suited to advancing them?

Now the contest for control of that vehicle begins.

With the election of Barack Obama and the imminent departure of George W. Bush, I feel a strange sense of liberation.  We can start advancing our ideas once again.



  1. […] by Stephen Green on 05 Nov 2008 at 09:59 am Dan Blatt on last night’s results: With the election of Barack Obama and the imminent departure of […]

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  2. Which is pretty close to What I said:

    If only one good thing has come from this election, it’s that it is crystal clear who the enemy is. We don’t have to compromise any more. We’re liberated from having to back mushy moderates just because if the alternative gets power, it would be worse. Well, now the worse alternative is in power, and we have nothing to lose.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 12:12 pm - November 5, 2008

  3. “I feel a strange sense of liberation.” I bet George W. Bush does too.

    Comment by denise — November 5, 2008 @ 12:13 pm - November 5, 2008

  4. The good news is we are free, free at last and are free to develop fresh ideas, re group and re organize. I do note that in some states that NObama won (Ohio and NC that Bob Barr took enough votes from McCain to swing those states to Nobama (assuming Nobama is declared the winner in NC)

    I do hope that Sarah Palin becomes the Presidential nominee in 2012 and wins and she adds Bobby Jindal as her VP. (I note that there already was a news story on Election night that Jindal is already planning a visit to Iowa next month and will run in 2012 for President)

    Exit polls show that the country considers themselves center right. That won’t change with the Marxist in Chief in charge.

    The other good news is that while in opposition, conservatives can retool and build from the bottom up.

    What I also note is Nobama used the Karl Rove model which is to tweak the Bush 2004 numbers district by district and precinct by precinct and despite that this is 21st century it still takes person to person volunteer contact from your own neighborhood (not volunteers from out of state that Kerry did in 2004) to win each state and each precinct in each state.

    It is time to come up with the modern version of Reagan conservatism and it is time to stop standing in a circle and shoot at each other.

    Also, I have NEVER considered Bush 41 and Bush 43 conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. BOTH were big spenders and Bush 43 out liberaled LBJ in the most spending on the federal budget in our life times and the biggest expansion of entitllements and adding the biggest one (Prescription drug benefits with Medicare/Medicaid) since Medicare/Medicaid was enacted under LBJ

    Plus, Bush 43 engaged in too much nation building…he should have done more of what he did (to his credit for which he will never properly receive) in doing what he did in Africa, what I call exporting American freedom values from the ground up with his foreign aid to Africa and using troops to help locals build schools, etc…fight malaria and AIDS, help local farmers, etc.

    I digress…we are finally free to build anew, create new ideas based upon freedom, individual freedoms and liberties, capitalism, the importance of low taxes, less government, a strong national defense, a strong vigorous fight against terrorism, creating a strong homeland security system in place, energy independence and freedom of the individual to choose our own health insurance, build our own dreams without government interference and stand up for freedom, loud and strong.

    I look forward to us being free to do that and not be afraid to do so…let the Marxists/Socialist/fascist Leftists support the Chosen One and have to defend him.

    Oh the glee in letting them do that and fall flat on their faces…and to know with fresh ideas for freedom, we shall overcome!

    Comment by Rocket — November 5, 2008 @ 12:21 pm - November 5, 2008

  5. BTW, I read V the K’s blog piece and once again you got it dead on I also take my inspiration from V the K..thanks for inspiring us to both of you:)

    Comment by Rocket — November 5, 2008 @ 12:22 pm - November 5, 2008

  6. Thanks, Rocket. But don’t forget, according to the video in the sidebar, I am, in fact, Hitler.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 12:34 pm - November 5, 2008

  7. The rump of the GOP is never going to attract new moderates and small-government proponents as long as the Evangelicals hold-sway within the party. They are the antithesis of small-government, pro-small business moderates since their religious-rigidity REQUIRES the existiance of a nanny-state. It thrives on interference in every facet of social and economic interaction. They are INCAPABLE of accepting a government that stays out-of-your-way since they whole world-view is telling you what you can and can’t do; NO gay rights, NO same-sex marriage, NO abortion, NO separation of Church and State. “No, No, No….” is their mantra, where the small government and small business factor wants the GOP to be saying, “…Yes, Yes, Yes”.

    It’s going to be practically-impossible to reform the Party from within as long as “gay rights”-issues and “abortion” are the litmus-test for access to the Party at the local, county and State-levels. Hence the example here in the Northeast that there are no Republicans in Federal-office east of the Hudson, and damn-few north of Virginia.

    You can’t “reform” a party that you’re frozen-out of.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — November 5, 2008 @ 12:39 pm - November 5, 2008

  8. V the K….ignore the moron in the side bar….I sure did!!!

    Your blog posts and comments here are always did on accurate and inspiring…keep going….. we need honesty and insight and keep standing up and fighting for freedom…and we all will stand up and fight for our freedom….and for the defeat of Marxism and the Marxist in Chief!!

    Comment by Rocket — November 5, 2008 @ 1:02 pm - November 5, 2008

  9. There will be one “change” in the Obama Regime: No one will be able to spin conspiracy theories that the Vice President is an evil genius wielding the real power behind the throne.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 1:09 pm - November 5, 2008

  10. We conservatives were aggitated with Bush 41. We were aggitated with Bush 43’s spending and lack of vetos. We stayed with them because the alternatives were much much worse. Now let’s reset and find true Reagan conservatives. The country will need them. It will only take 8 years. After all let’s learn one thing, winning isn’t the objective. Winning and governing as conservatives is the goal. Find and support the same types of conservatives locally. My new PA state rep is a young woman espousing true right causes. Palin, Jindal, Spence, Ryan…young, strong, dynamic conservatives. Let’s get on with it.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 5, 2008 @ 1:15 pm - November 5, 2008

  11. I congratulated President Elect Obama on his electoral victory on my Facebook profile. Tomorrow beings the 55 million strong anti-Obama wave. We must never compromise on our conservative free market principles and always be relentless.

    Alternative solutions must always be offered when countering the socialist Obama agenda!

    Comment by Dave_62 — November 5, 2008 @ 1:37 pm - November 5, 2008

  12. Now that Obama’s been elected the U.S. can begin trying to turn around the disaster of George Bush. Even more satsifying than having Obama win is the defeat of Mccain supporting gays like gay “patriot”. I agree with Rocket, hopefully Palin will be the Republican nominee for 2012, that lightweight will guarantee an Obama win in 2012 which would likely otherwise go back to the Republicans because Obama will not likely be able to undo by then the mess George Bush left and will get blamed for his disaster by an ignorant American public.

    Comment by Priya Lynn — November 5, 2008 @ 1:49 pm - November 5, 2008

  13. Those gays who would oppress their LGBT brothers and sisters have lost! Hallelujah!.

    Comment by Priya Lynn — November 5, 2008 @ 1:50 pm - November 5, 2008

  14. I love how Priya Lynn is already lowering expectations and admitting that Obama will fail.

    If you want to see her next act, it’s her spinning about how black people opposing gay marriage is a good thing. 🙂

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 5, 2008 @ 1:53 pm - November 5, 2008

  15. Your hatred Priya shows that you’re no different than the extreme social conservatives who would oppress us. You don’t want to consider our ideas, only belittle us. You must be a very lonely and unhappy person to want to mock your enemies on this day of your party’s triumph.

    I don’t see the president-elect, your candidate, as an enemy, but apparently, you see us as such. A sad commentary on you and those on your side who express similar sentiments.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — November 5, 2008 @ 1:56 pm - November 5, 2008

  16. Phrases like “the enemy”, “Marxist/socialist/fascist Leftists” , “always be relentless”, are not the way to end your nightmare but they WILL help the national nightmare grow. You cannot advance your ideas while thinking that way. If you don’t start viewing those you refer to above as people with different ideas to solve the same problem then you have doomed your cause from the start. A lot has been said on here about Bush-hatred, will you repeat that with Obama-hatred or will you be willing to let your animosity towards him and the 63 million that voted for him go long enough to actually assist in moving this country forward?

    Comment by a different Dave — November 5, 2008 @ 1:59 pm - November 5, 2008

  17. oh, I left out that I agree this is a great opportunity for the conservative message to be clarified and advance. But, the real message must be separated from the ugly side, the side that lives in condemnation of all that disagree. I look forward to seeing true conservatism revealed.

    Comment by a different Dave — November 5, 2008 @ 2:02 pm - November 5, 2008

  18. So Priya Lynn, are we getting all new citizens by then next election or is the the same “ignorant American public” that that just elected Obama going to throw him out in oh12 when he hasn’t performed all the miracles he promised? And if that happens, I guess you will still be blaming Bush.

    Comment by Hunter — November 5, 2008 @ 2:03 pm - November 5, 2008

  19. Different Dave-

    I will be as supportive of President Obama as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have been in supporting our troops in wartime.

    (I could go on and on….)

    Comment by GayPatriot — November 5, 2008 @ 2:04 pm - November 5, 2008

  20. You must be a very lonely and unhappy person to want to mock your enemies on this day of your party’s triumph.

    A point I have been making… despite losing, we on the right are still going to be happier than the left. We take happiness in our faith, our work, or family lives.

    Electing the Obamassiah isn’t gonna make you any happier if your life remains fundamentally f*ed up.

    The left are like those bums who ask you for a quarter, and if you give them a quarter, they demand a dollar. And if you don’t give it to them, they attack you for your greed and selfishness.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 2:14 pm - November 5, 2008

  21. “Obama will not likely be able to undo by then the mess George Bush left and will get blamed for his disaster by an ignorant American public.”

    I see the new Democratic talking points are already making the rounds. It didn’t even take a full 24 hours! Good stuff.

    Comment by Steve — November 5, 2008 @ 2:23 pm - November 5, 2008

  22. I hope it’s okay, but I’m stealing this headline (I’ll give you credit). It is funny, because now that Obama is President, the nightmare is over- we can once again have high taxes, high regulation, no choice, less freedom, lower prosperity, terrorist attacks on the homeland, and higher crime. Yeah for liberalism!

    Comment by aconservativeteacher — November 5, 2008 @ 2:24 pm - November 5, 2008

  23. Hey, wasn’t The One supposed to hold a Press Conference today?

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 2:55 pm - November 5, 2008

  24. Regarding Post 19: FDR used Hoover as a whipping up to his third campaign President. The word Bush will be a dirty word for a long time to come. Remember Reagan and Bush 41 used Carter/Mondale for a long time.

    We will eventually be able to use Obama/Biden, just wait and see.

    Comment by LCRW — November 5, 2008 @ 3:15 pm - November 5, 2008

  25. A different Dave..those are phrases, they are accurate terms that reflect Nobama and the leftists…and if the truth hurts…too bad….I for one will not be silenced by the fascists on the Left and the Marxist/Socialists……V the K got it perfect…the brown shirt leftists have already begun their campaign by their control of the MSM…

    Conservatives will regroup, fight, stand up and fight as McCain stated and Conservatives will not sit down and shut up but will stand up and stand on the side of freedom. I for one will do all I can in that regard. We have only just begun to fight.

    The good news is that the likes of Palin will not be silenced and conservatives will re energize, gather strength, rebuild and create the agenda from the ground up and at all levels….so, here we go….find our mettle and sing loudly and give ’em hell!

    Comment by Rocket — November 5, 2008 @ 3:35 pm - November 5, 2008

  26. […] Our Long Conservative Nightmare is Over […]

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  27. No one will ever accuse Biden of being an evil genius.

    Comment by Right Turn — November 5, 2008 @ 4:14 pm - November 5, 2008

  28. #7

    The rump of the GOP is never going to attract new moderates and small-government proponents as long as the Evangelicals hold-sway within the party. They are the antithesis of small-government, pro-small business moderates since their religious-rigidity REQUIRES the existiance of a nanny-state. It thrives on interference in every facet of social and economic interaction.

    With all due respect, what a completely hypocritical crock of shit.

    Evangelicals have zero desire to interfere in your social OR economic interactions. YOU are the one demanding THEY get involved in your social interaction by demanding that they subsidize your relationship. YOU are the one demanding that THEY must approve of you, and must employ you even if they dont want to (most are happy to from my experience), YOU are the one demanding government tell businesses and individuals what they can and cannot do and YOU are the one calling for nanny-state government to force them to do so.

    There are ZERO evangelical Republicans trying to take away the rights of any gays, there are ZERO evangelical Republicans trying to use government to prohibit businesses andd other private enterprise from doing anything, there are ZERO evangelical republicans calling for government to force religion on anyone.

    What they are doing, which you so disingenuously misrepresent, is to prevent government from prohibiting the free-exercize of their religion, which is, after all, a God-given, and constitutionally protected right, as is the right to life, as is the freedom of association. All of which YOU are apparenlty demanding government interfere with.

    So it is YOU who are the one demanding the increase in the size and power of government, not them.

    Comment by American Elephant — November 5, 2008 @ 5:44 pm - November 5, 2008

  29. GPW, filtered again.

    Comment by American Elephant — November 5, 2008 @ 5:45 pm - November 5, 2008

  30. because Obama will not likely be able to undo by then the mess George Bush left and will get blamed for his disaster by an ignorant American public.

    Prius Lynn,

    Nice to see you admit so soon that Obama is incompetent. Far more wealth was lost in the Clinton bubble burst and recession than has been lost in the housing bubble burst — and yet President Bush turned that recession around very quickly.

    Also nice to see you admit that the only reason Obama got elected is because the American public is ignorant. You make an excellent standard-bearer for them. 🙂

    Comment by American Elephant — November 5, 2008 @ 5:54 pm - November 5, 2008

  31. By they way, Prius, regarding your ignorance, someone should inform you that it is CONGRESS that writes the laws and controls the purse strings, not the President. And congress has been controlled by Democrats for 2 years now.

    The economy was doing great when Republicans handed it over to them.

    Comment by American Elephant — November 5, 2008 @ 5:56 pm - November 5, 2008

  32. #19 and #25 Then you are no better than those you criticize and have nothing positive to offer this country.

    #28 since you are obviously a card carrying member of the “gays are evil” club why do you even come here. I’m sure they love you on Free Republic. #7 is spot on observation of the state of the GOP today, deny it if you want but if you truly want to “stand on the side of freedom” as Rocket says you MUST break the strangle hold the extremes have on the Republican party.

    Comment by a different Dave — November 5, 2008 @ 8:40 pm - November 5, 2008

  33. No one will ever accuse Biden of being an evil genius.

    Evil, maybe.

    Comment by V the K — November 5, 2008 @ 8:46 pm - November 5, 2008

  34. I love how Priya Lynn is already lowering expectations and admitting that Obama will fail.

    I love how even though Priya Lynn’s side “won”, she STILL insists that the American public is “ignorant”. You can’t pierce ideology and snobbishness (a religion of snobbishness?) that thick with a pole-axe, LOL.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 5, 2008 @ 9:04 pm - November 5, 2008

  35. Dave,

    Please call back when you have an intelligent response. That one didnt even come close.

    Comment by American Elephant — November 5, 2008 @ 9:34 pm - November 5, 2008

  36. Well said, American Elephant as to Dave’s comments…well at least he made me laugh today…I needed that.

    Comment by Rocket — November 5, 2008 @ 10:54 pm - November 5, 2008

  37. AE, live your fantasy it’s your loss not mine and the USA will survive the coming meltdown of the GOP, it’s time for some more options in the voting booth anyway. Glad I could provide amusement Rocket, it’s good to laugh.

    Comment by a different Dave — November 5, 2008 @ 11:12 pm - November 5, 2008

  38. All the Obamacultists enjoy the moment. I mean, I am happy to see that in my lifetime, a black man has been elected president. But, I was not for him because of the policies that he advocates. All the Bush-haters need to get a clue. We have not lived a conservative era the past eight years. A moderate one at best. President Bush constantly put us in the position of defending policies that, quite honestly, I had a hard time defending. The last straw is this bailout/rescue. But, as noted here, this is a rebuilding time for the Republicans. And for the Obamacultists. When the last Democrat president had a Democrat congress, he did so well that it ushered in an overwhelming rejection and Republican dominance until now.

    Comment by Mark J. Goluskin — November 5, 2008 @ 11:31 pm - November 5, 2008

  39. I feel exactly the same way. I’m tired of defending a guy I agree with 50 percent of the time when I hate the other 50 percent. No, I’m an elitist Republican trying to win my way into cocktail parties.

    In fact, I work in aviation and frequent an industry blog where people from other countries (especially Europe) frequent. They are generally pro-free trade, market liberalization etc. They were also big Obama fans. I mentioned how Obama is going to kiss the ring of the unions and they can pretty much big adieu to liberalized industry rules that Europe is pushing for like an expansion of the trans-atlantic Open Skies agreement favored by the Bush administration. I told them be careful what you wish for because they just got it. They’re awfully confused right now (but I thought he was a uniter, unlike Bush!) but give it time and they’ll understand.

    I feel liberated. We can be honest with who we are and what we believe without apologizing for it or being on the defensive all the time. Today is not such a bad day.

    Comment by Phil — November 6, 2008 @ 1:42 am - November 6, 2008

  40. Obama was a tabula rasa. Lots of his supporters *projected* onto him what they wanted to see. But no sitting President can remain tabula rasa; in other words, lots of people are about to have their hopes crushed. Lots of people are going to be crying, in a matter of weeks or months, “This is not what I voted for!”

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 6, 2008 @ 3:40 am - November 6, 2008

  41. American Elephant—beautifully put—-PLEASE will you run for office?

    Comment by Vivian — November 7, 2008 @ 12:14 am - November 7, 2008

  42. #40–I hope you are right, however, I now fear that the media is so omnipotent that the public will never really know the truth about anything. They convinced everyone that the country is a disaster now, and they will be able to convince our easily-duped nation that everything is going well regardless of how President Obama governs. We are too lazy to look hard for the truth, and unable to see it when it is in front of us. I wish I could find more reasons to be hopeful. I have been following the banking disasters for well over a year, and was able to send all sorts of information to friends demonstrating the repeated attempts of Republicans to reform Fannie and Freddie, the list of Congressmen receiving funds from the same, with Obama as the #2 highest recipient on the list. People heard about the Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc. In short, the truth no longer matters.

    I hope we can all now understand how Hitler came to power. You rope in the youth, get them together for singalongs, you bully any opposition, incite people who are desperate for any “change”, and they will overlook every other moral argument, including truth. I find it all rather frightening.

    Without changes to the news reporting industry, and either introducing school choice or eliminating propaganda from the schools, I can’t see any actual hope. The news media and the educational system are monopoly institutions. In Seattle, in any public gathering, you can count on someone from a podium cheering the result of the election—it’s a given that there are none opposed. It’s a very clear message–if you don’t agree, shut up. This is exactly what happened at my choral practice last night. The director said, “aren’t we all thrilled about the election?”, a total non-sequitur. Everyone around me stood up and cheered. I’ve never experienced that in my lifetime after a Republican victory, at a non-political event. These Democrats will make no room for opposition. Republicans will need to wake up and realize they are in a war, one way or another, something I don’t think McCain has ever realized.

    Comment by Vivian — November 7, 2008 @ 12:53 am - November 7, 2008

  43. ” They convinced everyone that the country is a disaster now,”

    Right, “they” convinced us. Because on our own we can’t see the rise in “bank owned” houses in our neighborhoods, and we can’t see the prices rising every time we go to the grocery store, and we can’t see our friends (or ourselves) being laid off, and we can’t all the other things that are going wrong. Because we are just ignorant and easily duped because if we weren’t we would know that the “conservative way” is the only way, we would know that there really aren’t oil companies making MASSIVE, record-breaking profits while we pay more at the pumps, we would know that there are no “Christians” that hate LGBT people and will stop at nothing to keep us from making any gains, we would know that only Muslims are violent and are out to take over the world.

    Hitler? Republicans are in a war? Gosh Vivian you’re really hoping for some revolution eh? Got your weapons ready so you can punish some godless liberal who is probably also a communist and a homosexual who hates Jews and true “christians”. Are you saving up canned goods in a bunker behind your house?

    “I’ve never experienced that in my lifetime after a Republican victory, at a non-political event.”

    And, of course, that means that it never happened. Right wing groups never proclaimed that God’s will had been fulfilled, that Bush had a mandate to do whatever he wanted because “the people” spoke. And even that millions more people “spoke” this time, it’s meaningless because we’re so easily duped.

    Oh and Hitler? Can’t get over that one. Because Ronald Reagan wasn’t idolized and isn’t considered practically a god now that he has passed on, but because we think Obama has something to offer we are supporting the next Hitler? And of course, easily duped.

    You are a fine representative of the overwhelming hypocrisy and arrogance of many on the right. And you represent exactly what keeps true conservative beliefs from advancing. And your gloom and doom, Dems are evil nonsense is a threat to all that is civilized in the USA. Speak up Vivian, raise your voice loud and proclaim your crusade to the world. Because we need to hear it, we need to know exactly who is fighting for dominance in this country, who will truly stomp on dissent and free thinking. You just can’t stand it that we all don’t bend over and let you do whatever you want to the country that we are also citizens of. You can’t stand it because we voted against your candidates and so have to call the winner names. Thank God this is still a free country and we can vote the way we choose and support who we choose. You want a war, you got it, because YOU and those who think like you are NOT going to destroy the USA. If true conservative voices to not speak up and rip the GOP and the conservative “movement” from such as you then liberalism in all it’s excesses will reign in this country. Instead of your “end of the world” BS why don’t you open your eyes and try to be part of the solution. Or do you hate the rest of us so much that you would rather just sit and spew bile?

    Comment by a different Dave — November 7, 2008 @ 12:55 pm - November 7, 2008

  44. GPW, I posted a rant that ended up in the ozone. Please leave it there, it was written in anger and adds nothing of value to the discussion. Thanks

    Vivian, I think you need to rethink some of your thoughts towards the 62 or whatever million people who voted for Obama. He is NOT Hitler, we were NOT duped (at least anymore than by any other candidate), the Dem party does NOT represent an oppressive force out to stomp on those who disagree (anymore than the GOP is). Your hostility and inflammatory statements are anti-American and dangerous. Since you are part of a minority within the conservative movement your only affect is to embarrass yourself and amuse other people. Learn that there are a variety of political beliefs, and that is good. Learn that there are a variety of religious beliefs, and that is good. Learn that we are ALL citizens of the United States and want what is best for it and it’s people though we have different ideas of how to get there. Do yourself a favor, and get out of your “it’s a war” mentality.

    Comment by a different Dave — November 7, 2008 @ 2:51 pm - November 7, 2008

  45. Sorry, Dave–not buying it. I’m not saying Obama is Hitler, but I probably have a closer memory of the 3rd Reich since my husband is German and my mother in law and her relatives all lived through this time and have shared a lot of what they saw. I recognize the signs of cultism when I see it, and what is frightening is that there is now no effective source of opposition. I heard many people saying they were supporting Obama for reasons having nothing to do with any policy he ever espoused. I also see that facts don’t matter to people in love with a symbol.

    “It’s a war mentality”—Dave, there IS a war going on, a war of ideas whether you understand it or not. Since there is plenty of documentation of the involvement of Marxist activists in this country from the 1930s on, I won’t waste time spelling out what I mean. I’m afraid I don’t find hiding out in wishful thinking and delusion especially rewarding.

    Comment by Vivian — November 8, 2008 @ 4:32 am - November 8, 2008

  46. “I recognize the signs of cultism when I see it”

    Then I assume you were equally alarmed when RR ran in 1980. Now as then people are dissatisfied and latched on the the person they thought represented something different. I believe that most of us know that he cannot deliver on what he said but at least he said something hopeful. Like it or not McCain looks like the same old thing. When Palin was chosen and the far right started foaming at the mouth the were so excited that set off alarms for many of us. If you want to talk cultism you should look at the groups filling stadiums and marching on DC praying for victory. A victory against the “enemy” who happens to be anyone the leaders of the gatherings don’t like. All in “God’s name”. I sat in on a Promise Keepers event once in Queens and I was horrified at some of the things I saw and heard. I had nothing but respect for the leader of “The Call”, I forget his name, until I saw him talking about the last event in Cali. In some circles the Christians have become the lions and have no mercy. What you call a “war of ideas” is no such thing, it’s a war against people, a war against those with different political views or religious views and it will benefit NO ONE but the enemies of the USA. What has to change in this country is the us or them mentality. Conservatives don’t have all the answers, liberals don’t have all the answers and viewing each other as the enemy it totally and completely harmful and a recipe for defeat.

    Comment by a different Dave — November 8, 2008 @ 5:07 pm - November 8, 2008

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