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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-330030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets keep Dennis Kucinich in the Democratic Party.</description>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329982</link>
		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So oh wise one, what has &quot;worked&quot;.  When as the fabled American Dream ever been for the very few at the top. When has there NOT been a significant number of people barely scraping by while a minority have plenty AND control all the power?   When has whatever it is that you advocate (which from what I tell is reward the right and F&amp;^k the poor) actually benefited the whole country.  Actually, I can&#039;t remember what you advocate because the majority of what you write is damnation of the left, defense of every disgusting act by the right, and personal insults towards anyone who disagrees.  Perhaps that&#039;s all there is to Republicans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So oh wise one, what has &#8220;worked&#8221;.  When as the fabled American Dream ever been for the very few at the top. When has there NOT been a significant number of people barely scraping by while a minority have plenty AND control all the power?   When has whatever it is that you advocate (which from what I tell is reward the right and F&amp;^k the poor) actually benefited the whole country.  Actually, I can&#8217;t remember what you advocate because the majority of what you write is damnation of the left, defense of every disgusting act by the right, and personal insults towards anyone who disagrees.  Perhaps that&#8217;s all there is to Republicans?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329926</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#25 TGC, look around at the comments on many if not most of the threads on here since Tuesday. Defeat, predictions of horrible things, extreme animosity towards those who voted for Obama etc. Itâ€™s beyond not giving him a chance for yâ€™all, you donâ€™t want him to succeed in anything. Not all of you, some are intelligent and rational.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The funny thing about history Dave, is that it shows what works and what doesnt. Obamas proposals have all been tried before, and they always fail. Rationality &lt;i&gt;requires&lt;/i&gt; not doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#25 TGC, look around at the comments on many if not most of the threads on here since Tuesday. Defeat, predictions of horrible things, extreme animosity towards those who voted for Obama etc. Itâ€™s beyond not giving him a chance for yâ€™all, you donâ€™t want him to succeed in anything. Not all of you, some are intelligent and rational.</p></blockquote>
<p>The funny thing about history Dave, is that it shows what works and what doesnt. Obamas proposals have all been tried before, and they always fail. Rationality <i>requires</i> not doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329800</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the power-grab antics of Harry Reid rather childish. Sucks to be you, Joe Lieberman.</description>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329799</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But if Barack Obama turns out to be an effective president who makes liberal ideas work better than we expect&lt;/blockquote&gt;The problem is, Social Security worked great for years, socialized medicine worked at first in those countries where it was tried, even giving home loans to those who couldnt afford them &quot;worked well&quot; for years. That is, some liberal policies fail outright, others take generations to destroy. Should we congratulate him for policies that appear to work but are doomed to fail? Hardly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But if Barack Obama turns out to be an effective president who makes liberal ideas work better than we expect</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem is, Social Security worked great for years, socialized medicine worked at first in those countries where it was tried, even giving home loans to those who couldnt afford them &#8220;worked well&#8221; for years. That is, some liberal policies fail outright, others take generations to destroy. Should we congratulate him for policies that appear to work but are doomed to fail? Hardly.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329795</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We need to end this stupid knee-jerk impeachment culture.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Agreed, but you do realize that the majority of American presidents have had impeachment proceedings against them, including our first.&lt;blockquote&gt;Even if Barack Obama happens to fulfill our worst nightmares with respect to policy decisions, he probably will not commit an impeachable offense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;hmm. You give him more credit than I do. I am fairly certain, based on past behavior, and the sheer size of his ego, that he will. He comes from the most corrupt political machine in America and it shows. Forget Rezko, ACORN and his past campaign shennaningans, I seriously doubt he was unaware that his campaign was egregiously breaking campaign finance law, he was certainly involved in attempts to use the Justice Department to silence critics, and even now he has established an illegal .gov website for the non-existant &quot;office of the president elect&quot; which appears to be raising funds and collecting data for future campaigns. 

I will be shocked if he &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; commit several impeachable offenses. The question is, will Republicans have the balls to do anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We need to end this stupid knee-jerk impeachment culture.
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<p>Agreed, but you do realize that the majority of American presidents have had impeachment proceedings against them, including our first.<br />
<blockquote>Even if Barack Obama happens to fulfill our worst nightmares with respect to policy decisions, he probably will not commit an impeachable offense.</p></blockquote>
<p>hmm. You give him more credit than I do. I am fairly certain, based on past behavior, and the sheer size of his ego, that he will. He comes from the most corrupt political machine in America and it shows. Forget Rezko, ACORN and his past campaign shennaningans, I seriously doubt he was unaware that his campaign was egregiously breaking campaign finance law, he was certainly involved in attempts to use the Justice Department to silence critics, and even now he has established an illegal .gov website for the non-existant &#8220;office of the president elect&#8221; which appears to be raising funds and collecting data for future campaigns. </p>
<p>I will be shocked if he <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> commit several impeachable offenses. The question is, will Republicans have the balls to do anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329773</link>
		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25  TGC, look around at the comments on many if not most of the threads on  here since Tuesday.  Defeat, predictions of horrible things, extreme animosity towards those who voted for Obama etc.    It&#039;s beyond not giving him a chance for y&#039;all, you don&#039;t want him to succeed in anything.  Not all of you, some are intelligent and rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25  TGC, look around at the comments on many if not most of the threads on  here since Tuesday.  Defeat, predictions of horrible things, extreme animosity towards those who voted for Obama etc.    It&#8217;s beyond not giving him a chance for y&#8217;all, you don&#8217;t want him to succeed in anything.  Not all of you, some are intelligent and rational.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329683</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impeachment is for wussies. Resignation is far more delectable and tasty, especially when it&#039;s preceded by a few years of incompetence, the revelation of an earthshaking scandal, and the trampling of the resigner by the squeaking hordes of Prada-clad rats frantically trying to escape the ship. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeachment is for wussies. Resignation is far more delectable and tasty, especially when it&#8217;s preceded by a few years of incompetence, the revelation of an earthshaking scandal, and the trampling of the resigner by the squeaking hordes of Prada-clad rats frantically trying to escape the ship. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cme</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329662</link>
		<dc:creator>cme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans, both left and right, need to come away from the stupid idea that you impeach presidents (and VPs and anyone else) for unpopular policy decisions.  I remain ambivalent on the Clinton impeachment and think, on balance, it was the wrong thing to do.  But even if the impreachment of Bill Clinton was misguided, at least their were specific legal reasons for it.  Most of those who wanted George Bush impeached had virtually no legal reasoning for it; they just hated him and thought the Clinton impeachment somehow justified a push for Bush&#039;s impeachment.  We need to end this stupid knee-jerk impeachment culture.

Even if Barack Obama happens to fulfill our worst nightmares with respect to policy decisions, he probably will not commit an impeachable offense.  I&#039;m not saying he&#039;ll commit one and get away with it.  I&#039;m saying I doubt he&#039;ll even commit one.  We as conservatives and as Republicans need to be protagonists, not antagonists.  We need to beat them on ideas, not petty politics.  We need to hope that Barack Obama has a successful presidency, for we as Americans reap what the President sows.  There is a good chance he will fail as president, and then, yes, we need to be ready with a better vision and a better plan in 2012, not to mention congressional races in 2010.  But if Barack Obama turns out to be an effective president who makes liberal ideas work better than we expect and who leads in a more centrist way than we expect, well, I doubt that will happen, but let&#039;s at least wait and be magnaminous until we have reason to be otherwise.  Let&#039;s try to outrun our competitors, not trip them.  Our country will be the better for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans, both left and right, need to come away from the stupid idea that you impeach presidents (and VPs and anyone else) for unpopular policy decisions.  I remain ambivalent on the Clinton impeachment and think, on balance, it was the wrong thing to do.  But even if the impreachment of Bill Clinton was misguided, at least their were specific legal reasons for it.  Most of those who wanted George Bush impeached had virtually no legal reasoning for it; they just hated him and thought the Clinton impeachment somehow justified a push for Bush&#8217;s impeachment.  We need to end this stupid knee-jerk impeachment culture.</p>
<p>Even if Barack Obama happens to fulfill our worst nightmares with respect to policy decisions, he probably will not commit an impeachable offense.  I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;ll commit one and get away with it.  I&#8217;m saying I doubt he&#8217;ll even commit one.  We as conservatives and as Republicans need to be protagonists, not antagonists.  We need to beat them on ideas, not petty politics.  We need to hope that Barack Obama has a successful presidency, for we as Americans reap what the President sows.  There is a good chance he will fail as president, and then, yes, we need to be ready with a better vision and a better plan in 2012, not to mention congressional races in 2010.  But if Barack Obama turns out to be an effective president who makes liberal ideas work better than we expect and who leads in a more centrist way than we expect, well, I doubt that will happen, but let&#8217;s at least wait and be magnaminous until we have reason to be otherwise.  Let&#8217;s try to outrun our competitors, not trip them.  Our country will be the better for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mokey</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329641</link>
		<dc:creator>Mokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there are umpty up FB sites wanting to impeach a President who hasn&#039;t be sworn in yet?  It is just possible that some, I&#039;m not saying all, have been set up by trolls to make those who didn&#039;t/maybe won&#039;t support Obama look like evil racists?  That&#039;s all I&#039;m sayin&#039;....just because it&#039;s in print, doesn&#039;t make it true and just because it&#039;s on the&#039;net doesn&#039;t make it true either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there are umpty up FB sites wanting to impeach a President who hasn&#8217;t be sworn in yet?  It is just possible that some, I&#8217;m not saying all, have been set up by trolls to make those who didn&#8217;t/maybe won&#8217;t support Obama look like evil racists?  That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m sayin&#8217;&#8230;.just because it&#8217;s in print, doesn&#8217;t make it true and just because it&#8217;s on the&#8217;net doesn&#8217;t make it true either.</p>
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		<title>By: matt from california</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt from california</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should give Barry a chance to see what he will do to our nation. If he ends up stealing our 401k&#039;s, killing off talk radio, making nice with Iran and Venezeula. Then feel free to start the impeach Obama websites. 

We should be the loyal opposition, that will call our congress critters, visit their offices and speak loud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should give Barry a chance to see what he will do to our nation. If he ends up stealing our 401k&#8217;s, killing off talk radio, making nice with Iran and Venezeula. Then feel free to start the impeach Obama websites. </p>
<p>We should be the loyal opposition, that will call our congress critters, visit their offices and speak loud!</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329543</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not even going to give things a chance, huh?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you even read before taking a huge dump on here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not even going to give things a chance, huh?</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you even read before taking a huge dump on here?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329540</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the LOL, I hoped someone would think it was funny besides me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the LOL, I hoped someone would think it was funny besides me <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329535</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AE in #20, LOL.  I might just get that shirt to wear for fun.  My liberal friends might think I&#039;d come around, without bothering to read the text beneath!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE in #20, LOL.  I might just get that shirt to wear for fun.  My liberal friends might think I&#8217;d come around, without bothering to read the text beneath!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremayakovka</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329526</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremayakovka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OTOH I sympathize with the urge to throw the Left&#039;s slutty antics back in their faces.
How about this for an over-the-top FB group: &lt;b&gt;&quot;CHIMPeach Obama&quot;&lt;/b&gt;?

A preferred vilification of the outgoing president was that he supposedly resembled a chimp - in demeanor as well as looks. But tag Obama with anything like that.... and you&#039;ll be tagged as something that begins with &quot;R&quot; and ends with &quot;T&quot; (and it&#039;s not &quot;right&quot;)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTOH I sympathize with the urge to throw the Left&#8217;s slutty antics back in their faces.<br />
How about this for an over-the-top FB group: <b>&#8220;CHIMPeach Obama&#8221;</b>?</p>
<p>A preferred vilification of the outgoing president was that he supposedly resembled a chimp &#8211; in demeanor as well as looks. But tag Obama with anything like that&#8230;. and you&#8217;ll be tagged as something that begins with &#8220;R&#8221; and ends with &#8220;T&#8221; (and it&#8217;s not &#8220;right&#8221;)!</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329513</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of juvenile conservatives....

Some of you juvenile conservative Tolkien fans &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/etrunk.327131292&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;might appreciate this&lt;/a&gt;. 

And speaking of t shirts, V, you really oughta make that Death Star into a t shirt, its hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of juvenile conservatives&#8230;.</p>
<p>Some of you juvenile conservative Tolkien fans <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/etrunk.327131292" rel="nofollow">might appreciate this</a>. </p>
<p>And speaking of t shirts, V, you really oughta make that Death Star into a t shirt, its hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6: &quot;Letâ€™s at least give the man time to commit an impeachable offense.&quot;

Tick, tock, tick, tock,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6: &#8220;Letâ€™s at least give the man time to commit an impeachable offense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tick, tock, tick, tock,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism and religious bigotry are the &quot;thing&quot; of some Californians I could mention.</description>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/06/juvenile-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-329465</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there are 155 Impeach Obama FB groups.  The pictures for them are lovely, if racism and religious bigotry are your thing.</description>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made my own right wing hate site logo. C&amp;C welcome.</description>
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