Gay Patriot Header Image

CNN Downplays Ayers’ Terrorist Past

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 5:57 pm - November 14, 2008.
Filed under: American Terrorists,Media Bias,Obama Watch

I have to learn to stop getting outraged at media bias.  While doing cardio at the gym today, pretty intensely so I couldn’t follow the close-captioning as closely as I would have liked, I saw a CNN segment on unrepentant terrorist William Ayers whom the “news” network identified as a ’60s radical.  As if most ’60s radicals tried to blow up federal buildings, including the Pentagon and regretted only that they didn’t set off enough bombs.

It wasn’t just that CNN called Ayers a mere radical, it was also that underneath that label, they said Palin tried to tie him to Obama.  As if he were just a guy in the president-elect’s neighborhood and not someone with whom Obama associated on a regular basis in the 1990s and quite possibly until he began service in the United States Senate.

Yes, Sarah Palin did tried to tie Ayers to Obama.  The two men did indeed have an ongoing relationship, a relationship which that very network acknowledged last month.  But, by using the line about the then-GOP vice-presidential nominee’s attempts to raise the issue, CNN made it appear a mere campaign tactic rather than a real relationship.

The more I watch CNN, the more it seems that that network is not trying to cover the president-elect, but instead cover for him.

Share

60 Comments

  1. I have to learn to stop getting outraged at media bias.

    Allow me to strongly disagree.

    What you really need to do is focus your outrage at the people who own and run the biased media outlets. They allow this crap to continue because they pay no price for it.

    Comment by Dave — November 14, 2008 @ 6:25 pm - November 14, 2008

  2. These are the people in your neighborhood,
    in your neighborhood, in your neigh-bor-hood.
    Oh, these are the people in your neighborhood.
    They’re the people that you meet
    when you’re walking down the street.
    They’re the people that you meet each day!

    Comment by American Elephant — November 14, 2008 @ 7:03 pm - November 14, 2008

  3. I heard GayPatriotWest used to associate with known terrorists and leftist sympathizers.

    Comment by Nurglitch — November 14, 2008 @ 7:51 pm - November 14, 2008

  4. This is a slap in the face to every law-abiding American citizen. It is brazen.

    Listen, amigo, Dave (#1) is 100% right. Rage can be blue-blazered, cravated & cuff-linked, too, you know. In fact, it better be.

    Comment by Jeremayakovka — November 14, 2008 @ 8:14 pm - November 14, 2008

  5. Amazing. Republicans just can’t quit William Ayers.

    Comment by Erik — November 14, 2008 @ 9:19 pm - November 14, 2008

  6. Not to mention his past as a rapist. The left has strange taste in heroes.

    Comment by V the K — November 14, 2008 @ 9:58 pm - November 14, 2008

  7. Like Palin, still talking about Ayers. Like Palin…

    Comment by jimmy — November 14, 2008 @ 10:34 pm - November 14, 2008

  8. Amazingly, my little brother and his wife won’t watch CNN because….

    Hold on to your beanies ladies and gentlemen….

    That network is TOO CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by sonicfrog — November 14, 2008 @ 10:42 pm - November 14, 2008

  9. “Amazing. Republicans just can’t quit William Ayers.”

    The Hyde Park bunch, who think nothing about palling around Ayers and Dohrn are immoral. Terrorism, bombing, and murder are not topics for amusing chitchat at Starbucks. And they should be confronted with that fact at every opportunity , ideally face to face. The best event of the month was watching the Fox News reporter running after Ayers asking for comments, and Ayers telling him to get off “his” property, or he would call the “police.” The hypocrisy of that poor excuse of a human being…

    Comment by heather — November 14, 2008 @ 10:55 pm - November 14, 2008

  10. The Hyde Park bunch, who think nothing about palling around Ayers and Dohrn are immoral.

    Would that include the 67 million Americans who voted for Barack Obama?

    And they should be confronted with that fact at every opportunity

    Because that worked out so well for you last week?

    Comment by Erik — November 14, 2008 @ 11:30 pm - November 14, 2008

  11. Last week, Erik, CNN wasn’t reporting this sort of thing; they were too busy covering it up and trying to deny that Obama even knew Ayers.

    Now that it turns out Obama lied and that he did in fact know and work with Ayers, how well do you think that will be received by the populace, especially when you see the beliefs that Ayers holds and that Barack Obama endorses?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 14, 2008 @ 11:52 pm - November 14, 2008

  12. Amazing. Republicans just can’t quit William Ayers.

    Erik, there’s something I just gotta know. What kind of sick sonofabitch would be so dismissive of the fact that his candidate has, at least, one thing in common with Osama bin Laden? Do you really not care about this at all, or are you just willing to look the other way? Do you sleep at night with the comfort of the lie that he’s a “repentant terrorist”? Do you feel good about it because he’s a fellow liberal and his targets were the right people? Do you secretly wish that you could firebomb people’s houses terrorizing women and children? Do you find it laudable to, at least, attempt to kill our own soldiers? Should one kill police officers to “justify the means”?

    Can you answer that without your usual asininity and cutesy slogans, like above?

    I just can’t wrap my head around your gross indifference. We know it’s not a “Right wing conspiracy”. We know that the liberals and the media lied about this issue up one side and down the other. We know the truth. What I want to know is what is it that makes you feel so damned good about it and what makes you able to scoff at those who don’t?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 15, 2008 @ 2:23 am - November 15, 2008

  13. Even more “Amazing” than that, is how there doesn’t seem to be a whole hell of a lot of difference between liberals and the Islamo-fascists. I’d be embarrassed as hell if al-Qaeda mimmicked the Republicans in their videos. I’d be mortified if my candidate spent years hanging out with a known domestic terrorist with American blood on his hands.

    But then I have the capacity for shame and embarrassment. I can’t understand how a “human being” doesn’t.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 15, 2008 @ 2:26 am - November 15, 2008

  14. TGC,

    William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Weather Underground, terrorism, firebombing, illegal foreign and domestic campaign contributions, vote fraud, registration fraud, voter intimidation, stealing elections, leaking top secret national security documents, stealing and destroying top secret national security documents, illegal land deals, earmarks for favors, nepotism, cronyism, unconstitutional power grabs, grand larceny, abuse of power, fraud, embezzlement, illegal wiretapping, undermining and sabotaging the nations war efforts, profiteering, unconstitutional search and seizure, manslaughter….

    just a partial list of the many things Democrats have had to overlook in order to elect their current leaders. They not only have no shame, they have no morals. Zero. Democrats will do ANYTHING and overlook ANYTHING for power.

    Is it any wonder they are the party overwhelmingly preferred by organized crime (aka unions and gambling), illegal drug producers, drug traffickers, drug dealers, gangs, prostitutes, the porn industry, ex-convicts, current felons, trial lawyers and every other loathsome scum in society

    …oh, and once again, pedophiles.

    OF course they don’t blink at Obama’s long relationship with terrorist William Ayers or any of the many other self-described communists, Marxists and radicals Obama has spent his life associating with. They all share the same values.

    Comment by American Elephant — November 15, 2008 @ 3:21 am - November 15, 2008

  15. The man was a terrorists who supported Marxist causes, why doesn’t some one ask him about the 10′s of millions killed by progressive governments. Erik, Obama and the Dems lied to 10′s of millions about how Ayers and company work with Obama hand in hand. For the liberals and left who knew better, yes they are rotten. Rotten because they are basing their win on a lie. Oh yeah and Pastor Wright was just some crazy Uncle.

    Comment by robert verdi — November 15, 2008 @ 6:48 am - November 15, 2008

  16. Eric,

    You are a first-class ass.

    GPW’s post wasn’t him still talking about Ayers. It was on the news media downplaying his past activities.

    Of course people are going to still talk about Ayers. He’s giving interviews to the press and hawking books, after all.

    Because that worked out so well for you last week?

    McCain lost because he was a lousy candidate. The GOP did poorly because it stabbed its base in the back. Confronting leftists with their excuse making for anti-American terrorists had nothing to do with it.

    Would that include the 67 million Americans who voted for Barack Obama?

    Most of those Americans don’t pal around with Ayers and his wife, jackass.

    Comment by Dave — November 15, 2008 @ 6:53 am - November 15, 2008

  17. True enough, Good Dave. What is frustrating to conservatives is that if McCain had ever been in the same room with Eric Rudolph or Tim McVeigh, the media would have “crucifixed” him for it. But Chairman O gets a total pass.

    The case sums up so many things the right despises about the American left and the media (but I repeat myself). Some of the main ones are:

    1. It’s okay to be a terrorist, if it’s in the cause of socialism.

    2. The media blatantly covers for Democrats, and twists the truth to smear Republicans.

    3. Hating America is a resume-enhancer on the left, and an open ticket to academic and social prominence.

    Having said that, I’m ready to move on and attack Obama for his stupid policies instead of his evil connections.

    Comment by V the K — November 15, 2008 @ 8:25 am - November 15, 2008

  18. Let us not forget the ultimate ‘strange bedfellows’

    1) RKK jr. is being talked about heading up the EPA.

    2) Billy Ayres is still Obama’s best buddy and backer.

    3) Ayers book is dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 15, 2008 @ 11:19 am - November 15, 2008

  19. I wish I were surprised by the rape article and the fact that it has been around for two years and not one mention of it by the media. However, since the left elected a rapist to two terms in office, even getting the National Org for Women’s endorsement, I think they’ll overlook anything to promote their agenda. Trust me, I know- I used to be one of them.

    As long as Obama and all his sleazy associates keep getting a non-stop BJ from the media, it seems hopeless. But I have to have faith that once the shellac wears off the bullshit and they realize he can’t deliver on most of his promises, some of his adoring minions will come to their senses. Hell hath no fury like a lefty scorned.

    Comment by Patriot Goddess — November 15, 2008 @ 11:34 am - November 15, 2008

  20. Gay Patriot West, if you think CNN in America makes you angry, then stay away from CNN International. I live abroad and am stuck with that, and the BBC World. Both hideously in the tank with Obama and the leftists

    Thank God for the internet!

    Comment by Pamela — November 15, 2008 @ 4:15 pm - November 15, 2008

  21. Bill Ayres was associated with pipe bombs loaded with roofing nails. I suppose he can claim that he thought they were gum-drops for kiddies, but somehow I am not predisposed to give him a pass.

    If Ayres is going to “speak out” I would like to see him “deposed” by a competent prosecutor. The MSM bubbleheads are far too ratings oriented to ever commit an act of journalism.

    Comment by heliotrope — November 16, 2008 @ 11:23 am - November 16, 2008

  22. Well thats why I hate to mix my politics with my gym time, its a distraction from the most important activity…which would be to get buff. I mostly glance in passing if I see something of interest but its best to avoid it and focus on the task at hand.

    Weights and politics just don’t mix, well cardio in your case…hate cardio..

    Comment by Darkeyedresolve — November 16, 2008 @ 4:36 pm - November 16, 2008

  23. CNN was a friend of Saddam . . . what else is there to say.

    Comment by rplat — November 16, 2008 @ 6:46 pm - November 16, 2008

  24. Well, the election got me through a month of cardio! It’s easier to be angry at the MSM than to pay attention to the hell cardio is! I think I lost ten lbs through the election process thanks to the fact the place only shows CNN and the others. I guess that’s one good thing about this. Now I have to bring my ipod or something….

    Comment by Timothy — November 16, 2008 @ 7:09 pm - November 16, 2008

  25. Why doesn’t Gordon Liddy’s planned bombing count as terrorism? And why doesn’t McCain’s association with Liddy bother you? Is hypocrisy the answer?

    Comment by JR — November 16, 2008 @ 8:32 pm - November 16, 2008

  26. If the MSM is so rough on the Right, why did they cover up the plentiful photos of George W Bush trashed out of his mind (and patting a female athlete on the butt) at the recent Olympics in Beijing? Isn’t an alcoholic President on a bender a legitimate topic?

    The Right has its head so far up its rear it can’t see how easily it has gotten off for the whole Bush debacle these past eight years.

    Comment by JR — November 16, 2008 @ 8:35 pm - November 16, 2008

  27. Why doesn’t Gordon Liddy’s planned bombing count as terrorism?

    Let’s see, planned bombing versus actual bombings, as carried out by Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground and endorsed by Chairman O.

    When you admit that Bill Ayers was a terrorist, then we can talk. But until then, applying your own standards that not even ACTUAL bombings count as terrorism, why should we worry about Liddy?

    And meanwhile, yeah, right, the media covered up George Bush getting drunk. They forged documents to try to prove he had dodged service; why on earth would they cover up something like that if it were true?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 16, 2008 @ 8:58 pm - November 16, 2008

  28. um, what is this G Gorden Liddy bombing? Not heard of it have I.

    Is GGL a ‘close personal friend’ of Sen McCain? Did Sen McCain have fund raiser at GGL’s house? Has Sen McCain worked hand in hand with GGL for years? Are there records that won’t be released?

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 16, 2008 @ 9:30 pm - November 16, 2008

  29. yawn. let’s see…Ayers would have served time in jail if GOP president Richard Nixon’s justice department hadn’t ILLEGALLY wiretapped him. So, blame your own for this one.

    Oh, and why not rail against the University of Chicago. They employ Ayers and that Palestinian too. Oh, wait, UofChicago is part of the intellectual elite, so I guess you’ve already attacked them.

    Hey! Let’s find a leader who went to five colleges in six years and then graduated from that institution of such fine repute, the University of Idaho.

    Why not try a new tact and come up with some real ideas? The GOP sold its soul to the religious right, gave up its fiscal conservatism and lost the last two national elections in LANDSLIDES. The GOP led us into socialized banking, stopped the federal government to try to keep a brain-dead woman “alive,” and stood by while Katrina drowned New Orleans.

    But as a reformed republican I’m happy that you have nothing, NOTHING, to offer but insults. Without any new ideas your party will be relegated to minority status indefinitely.

    Comment by buckeyenutlover — November 16, 2008 @ 10:24 pm - November 16, 2008

  30. yawn. Bill Ayers would have served prision time if not for that immoral GOP president Richard Nixon, whose justice department ILLEGALLY wiretapped him and thus the case was dismissed. So, blame your own.

    But, please, keep crying about this nonsense. It does your side so much harm. The GOP was routed in the past two national elections because they have no ideas, no plans, and have continually proven they have no skill at governing.

    The GOP sold its soul to the religious right. They abandoned their conservative fiscal positions, stood silent while New Orleans drowned from Katrina and stopped the federal government to try to keep a brain-dead woman “alive.”

    Yeah, keep talking about Bill Ayers and how the media’s in the tank for the left. Yeah, keep appeasing the whacko religious nuts. Yeah, keep brown-nosing the confederacy. It’ll only help cement the minority status the immoral GOP deserves.

    Comment by buckeyenutlover — November 16, 2008 @ 10:32 pm - November 16, 2008

  31. Just google George Bush drunk Olympics
    Gordon Liddy bombing

    Comment by JR — November 16, 2008 @ 11:09 pm - November 16, 2008

  32. LOL….notice how these so-called “reformed Republicans” like buckeyenutlover always endorse socialist and leftist politicians who support out of control government spending, endorse abortion and assisted suicide, give control and money to terrorist “educators” like Ayers and Wright who push patently-racist and unscientific theories, and insist that anyone who graduates from a public university is uneducated?

    Looks less like this moby was a Republican than he’s a Democrat demonstrating the bigoted prejudice that Democrats have towards Republicans.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 12:17 am - November 17, 2008

  33. OK, I know who Moby is, but have no idea what calling someone a moby means. Someone care to explain?

    Comment by American Elephant — November 17, 2008 @ 1:11 am - November 17, 2008

  34. Back in 2004, Moby urged his fans to post comments at conservative blogs pretending to be conservatives or Republicans who has seen the light and were now against Bush.

    Comment by V the K — November 17, 2008 @ 5:50 am - November 17, 2008

  35. Hey! Let’s find a leader who went to five colleges in six years and then graduated from that institution of such fine repute, the University of Idaho.

    Did she have Palestinians and radical Saudis pay for her to go to school, or did she have to work to pay tuition? Think maybe she didn’t want to be a THUG politician from day 1 and change her major a few times like a lot of average people do? You forget that Comrade Barack Hussein Milhouse Obama Carter went to, at least THREE (that’s more than two and less than four, for you liberals) universities.

    Ayers would have served time in jail if GOP president Richard Nixon’s justice department hadn’t ILLEGALLY wiretapped him.

    Too bad they didn’t have Robert Kennedy. Then again, Ayers’s buddy Sirhan Sirhan took care of that.

    stood silent while New Orleans drowned from Katrina

    Prove it.

    and stopped the federal government to try to keep a brain-dead woman “alive.”

    How do you “stop the federal government” when they’re on holiday? And how does a bill allowing the case to be brought to federal court “keep a brain-dead woman ‘alive’??? Not to mention 47 House democrats voted for it.

    Please, do tell!

    Yeah, keep brown-nosing the confederacy.

    What in sweet feathery Jesus is that about? Which is the party of slavery, segregation, the KKK etc. again?

    Maybe you’d like to try your luck at answering the question I posed to Erik above? Think you can do so without playing equivalency games? Can you explain why I shouldn’t think Bill Ayers is such a rotten sonofabitch?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 17, 2008 @ 6:04 am - November 17, 2008

  36. #34

    Oh, like the Astroturfers. I thought you were saying they were has-been (or never-was) pussies.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 17, 2008 @ 6:05 am - November 17, 2008

  37. [Comment trapped in filterland]

    What’s more, JR, James Lee Witt took three weeks to respond to hurricane Floyd while Americans were drowning up and down the Eastern Seaboard. Hillary thought New Orleanians would have been better off if Witt were still in charge.

    Not to mention that the La. Dept. of Health found that most of those who drowned in South Louisiana had cars parked in their driveway.

    Not to mention that Firehouse magazine pointed out that FEMA had USAR teams in South Louisina while Mississippi was still getting pounded by Katrina.

    Not to mention that while the victim class were demanding their $2000 Visa cards, to buy porn and gamble at the casinos, Mississippians and Floridians under the leadership of Haley Barbour and Jeb Bush rolled up their sleeves and got to work rebuilding.

    And where is Kathleen Blanco these days? Still living in the house she had to make sure survived the storm, I trust? Are the Washington ComPost and al-Qaeda Times still running offense (and defense) for her?

    But who needs those pesky facts to get in your way when you have the blubbering Anderson Vanderbilt and the Hussein/Hizbollah News Network?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 17, 2008 @ 6:34 am - November 17, 2008

  38. Gordon Liddy didn’t get beyond the bomb planning stage because he was arrested for having committed other federal crimes, not because he realized it was wrong.

    You’re the one who says Ayers is a “close personal friend” of Obama’s. They both disagree. And if a coffee held years ago and serving on a board of a nonprofit are your evidence of “closeness,” you’re desperate.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 7:26 am - November 17, 2008

  39. Let’s see, Bush’s popularity is the lowest of any President’s since polling was started–but you think that no Republicans might have changed their mind about Bush and his policies.

    You’re right. Eight years ago when his popularity was higher, many liberals were pretending to be Republicans and saying they liked him so that later we could say we had a change of heart.

    Denial, denial, denial.

    How far is that going to get you?

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 7:33 am - November 17, 2008

  40. JR, Ayers own book says ‘close personal friend’ That’s as agreeing as you can get.

    And like most of the Pro-Ayers crowd, you don’t address the other facts, choosing to ignore them. He’s a terrorist by his own words.

    Comment by The Livewire — November 17, 2008 @ 9:37 am - November 17, 2008

  41. Just asking–have you actually read Ayers’ book or are you quoting some internet site? Do you have the book in front of you? Interested in finding out whether you’re informed or just passing around information. If you say it is in the book, I’ll go to Barnes and Noble and look it up.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 11:25 am - November 17, 2008

  42. By information I should have typed “information” as in misinformation.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 11:26 am - November 17, 2008

  43. I’ll address the other part of your accusation here. I didn’t vote for Bill Ayers. I voted for Barack Obama. You called me “part of the Pro-Ayers crowd.” That’s slander. I have nothing to do with him, nor am I in favor of him. You are lying through your teeth. That kind of guilt by defense of the freedoms in the Constitution is how the Right seeks to make me afraid to disagree you.
    I don’t care if Obama had a casual relationship with him. I had lunch this Saturday with someone who once had lunch with Bill Ayers. I am not a terrorist nor do I suport terrorism. Nor am I “soft on terrorism.” I live in Manhattan. I care very much about terrorism. I resent your idiotic assertions based on your prejudices.

    I have said (and no one has disputed) that Gordon Liddy is a terrorist and a McCain crony, but no one here seems to have a problem with that. That is hypocrisy.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 11:33 am - November 17, 2008

  44. I repeat myself from above:

    Let’s see, planned bombing versus actual bombings, as carried out by Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground and endorsed by Chairman O.

    When you admit that Bill Ayers was a terrorist, then we can talk. But until then, applying your own standards that not even ACTUAL bombings count as terrorism, why should we worry about Liddy? Better yet, since you whine and scream that Obama, who actually endorses and supports Ayers, has praised and promoted Ayers’ s theories and books, and who has worked with Ayers on numerous occasions to implement Ayers’s radical racist and leftist theories in public schools, is not an Obama “crony”, why should we care about Liddy, for whom McCain has never done anything even remotely close to what Obama has done for Ayers?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 11:43 am - November 17, 2008

  45. Let’s also take a look at the theories that Barack Obama supports as taught by his friend Bill Ayers:

    Convinced that all whites were born tainted with the original sin of “skin privilege,” the fighting brigade of the New Left internalized racialist thinking as hatred of their own whiteness. “All white babies are pigs,” declared one Weatherman. On one occasion the feminist poet Robin Morgan was breast-feeding her son at the offices of the radical journal Rat. A Weatherwoman saw this and told her, “You have no right to have that pig male baby.” “How can you say that?” Morgan asked. “What should I do?” “Put it in the garbage,” the Weatherwoman answered.

    Bernadine Dohrn [Ayers' wife], an acid-loving University of Chicago law student turned revolutionary, reflected the widespread New Left fascination with the serial-killing hippie Übermensch Charles Manson. “Dig It! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” In appreciation, her Weather Underground cell made a three-fingered “fork” gesture its official salute.

    Then again, Obama was clapping and cheering for the same thing being spewed from the pulpit by Jeremiah Wright, so it should be no surprise that Obama was directing millions of dollars to promote and push Ayers.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 11:50 am - November 17, 2008

  46. Can’t you understand that Rightwing Hero and Terrorist Liddy’s bombing didn’t happen ONLY because he got arrested on other federal crime charges.
    But since he was a multiple felon and got arrested first, a planned bombing doesn’t count? What a hypocrite!

    A long quote from nutcase propagandist Jonah Goldberg doesn’t impress me. It is just more of the same. I am surprised to find out that you were in church with Barack Obama to hear him cheer, or are you just making that up, too?

    Google George Bush drunk at Olympics–see what the MSM is REALLY covering up.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 12:15 pm - November 17, 2008

  47. Silly silly JR. Not even 50 posts in and the ‘I am wounded’ and personal attacks in the same post even. Impressive. As for Billy ‘Blow ‘em Up’ Ayers being a close personal friend I point you to http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6251086 from the post below.

    Do you see that? It’s called a ‘link’ Most people use them to support their arguments. They’re almost as powerful as those things that bother you called ‘facts’.

    Say it with me, “William Ayers is a terrorist by his own definition. I repudiate his actions and people need to disassociate themselves from him.”

    Now as you’ve not answered my other questions, I’ll repeat them here. The words aren’t too big, so I believe you understand them. Try sounding them out:

    “Is GGL a ‘close personal friend’ of Sen McCain? Did Sen McCain have fund raiser at GGL’s house? Has Sen McCain worked hand in hand with GGL for years? Are there records that won’t be released?”

    Oh, and if it’s in print, it’s Libel, not slander.

    Comment by The Livewire — November 17, 2008 @ 12:41 pm - November 17, 2008

  48. LOL….but silly JR, you and your candidate Barack Obama say that Ayers should not be held responsible for his planned bombing of a military dance at Fort Dix — which was averted only because the bomb exploded prematurely, killing three people and causing massive property damage.

    Also, from that ABC citation, note that Bill Ayers, who is fully supported and endorsed by Barack Obama, teaches children that planting bombs is not terrorism. Of course you support that, because otherwise, you would have to admit that your candidate Barack Obama supports people who plant bombs in public buildings and gives these people millions of dollars to teach their beliefs to children.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 12:58 pm - November 17, 2008

  49. North Dallas…I said nothing of the kind–I didn’t say anyone should not be held responsible for anything. It’s amazing how many times on this one post you people have decided you know what I think.

    In addition, nothing on the link you provided says “close personal friend,” so I’m going to assume that you’ve concocted that also. Evidently it doesn’t say that in Ayers’ book, either. But what’s a lie?

    Third, evidently the standard for whether it’s bad to be “pals” with a terrorist is whether they have a coffee for you. Who knew?

    But I quote from Carl Bernstein “In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain’s senatorial re-election campaign — the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy’s syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host’s values.”

    But Liddy was the good kind of terrorist bomber, I guess.

    Hypocrites. But you make up for your appalling moral relativism with your childish condescension. Go lose some more elections.

    Since evidently you want me to provide the links to the photos of a completely drunk and sexually harassing GW Bush, here goes:

    http://virtualreview.org/china/zoom/703416/bush-drunk-olympic-games-beijing-2008

    ps Slander or libel, a lie is still a lie. But what’s it to you?

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 3:17 pm - November 17, 2008

  50. oooh a collection of still pictures. I’m impressed at the quality of your news site. Those have been debunked several times. I can post a link to Bigfoot photos, so I assume you accept those as evidence. Oh and those are AP news photos. Great job on the coverup, man!

    That was snark by the way.

    “Neighbor and family friend” I know facts, such pesky things aren’t they.

    Still no links on GGL bombings. See, the majority of conservatives condemn violence like abortion bombings, Tim McVeigh, the Weathermen, etc. Our future president? He gives people like that grant money and has fund raisers in his office.

    I can get 2200000 hits on JR buggers sheep. So who knows what I’ll get on G Gordon Liddy and bombings.

    Comment by The_Livewire — November 17, 2008 @ 3:57 pm - November 17, 2008

  51. The funny part about this, Livewire, is that “JR” is screaming about how evil and awful McCain is — and “proving” it by alleging that McCain’s relationship with Liddy is the same as Ayer’s relationship with Obama.

    By trying to claim McCain supports and endorses terrorists, JR is accidentally admitting that Obama supports and endorses terrorists. But then again, JR doesn’t care, because terrorists like Ayers who blow up police stations, who attack public buildings, and who firebomb houses with sleeping children inside are heroes of the left and the Democrat Party to whom he belongs. He sees Ayers’s actions as completely justified and refuses to condemn them.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 5:10 pm - November 17, 2008

  52. So, they are AP news photos, but they’ve been debunked? That doesn’t make sense, does it? From the AP humor division?

    My point is that while you whine about the ‘easy’ treatment Obama got, you ignore the pass Bush has had for 8 years. Did you see it in ANY newspaper, on the news on ANY station?

    North Dallas is making stuff up. I never “screamed” or even implied that McCain is awful. I was just trying to get you to see that you have one standard for rightwing terrorists and another for left. You don’t care AT ALL about Liddy’s bomb plan, clearly. In the real world, that’s hypocrisy.

    I am in no way, accidentally or otherwise, saying that Obama or I are keen on any terrorists. You read into posts whatever is convenient, just as “neighbor and family friend” becomes “close personal friend,” and a quote, at that. Should he have denounced Ayers? Maybe. Should McCain have denounce Liddy? Will you? You’re so keen on denouncing, let’s hear it!

    Meanwhile, your party lost by 7 million votes, didn’t get many of its voters to the polls (perhaps because they focused on garbage like this and accusations that Obama is Muslim.) If you don’t have the sense to try to figure out how you’re going to come up with a winning combination for the future, when you were rejected by over two-thirds of voters under 30, I certainly won’t help you. Focus on your many grievances, concentrate on the unfairness of it all, come up with a conspiracy theory or two: see where it gets you.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 6:06 pm - November 17, 2008

  53. North Dallas is making stuff up. I never “screamed” or even implied that McCain is awful. I was just trying to get you to see that you have one standard for rightwing terrorists and another for left.

    And again, JR, you and your candidate Barack Obama say that Ayers should not be held responsible or called a terrorist for his planned bombing of a military dance at Fort Dix — which was averted only because the bomb exploded prematurely, killing three people and causing massive property damage. You fully support and endorse the multiple bombings of public buildings and police stations, the murder of the Brinks guards, and the firebombing of houses with sleeping children in them, as NOT being terrorism — all because Ayers did them. By your own definition, Liddy is not a terrorist, since you refuse to state that Ayers is a terrorist.

    Also, from that ABC citation, note that Bill Ayers, who is fully supported and endorsed by Barack Obama, teaches children that planting bombs is not terrorism. Of course you support that, because otherwise, you would have to admit that your candidate Barack Obama supports people who plant bombs in public buildings and gives these people millions of dollars to teach their beliefs to children.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 6:38 pm - November 17, 2008

  54. If you don’t have the sense to try to figure out how you’re going to come up with a winning combination for the future, when you were rejected by over two-thirds of voters under 30, I certainly won’t help you.

    Voters under 30 have a strange characteristic; they age, and oddly enough as they age and start having incomes, children, and bills, they aren’t as susceptible to the insistence that they be taxed heavily to pay for those who refuse to work.

    Purchasing college students is easy; as Barack Obama did, just promise them that the government will do just like Mom and Dad and give them free food, free housing, free spending money, and free cars, all without having to lift a finger or pay a penny on their part.

    Since the Democrats support punishing those who work to purchase voters like these, they never will vote for Republicans — and they never have. Republicans should focus on those voters who Democrats are punishing and demanding fund the Democrat Party’s vote-purchasing programs. They should ask voters who work hard and get an education why they should be taxed and punished so that Obama can purchase the votes of the lazy and the irresponsible.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 6:42 pm - November 17, 2008

  55. You’re the one who’s fixated on terrorists, so I was just trying to find out whether it’s only leftist ones who bother you (an actual reader would not that I just implied that I thought that Ayers is a terrorist, but subtleties fly past you) or whether condemn rightwing ones, too. You won’t say. Can I assume some terror is better than others?

    You spend so much time reading things into what I write that I neither wrote nor think, it’s a wonder you have the time to come up with a GOP Victory Plan, but you do!

    Well, the Republicans did okay with voters over 60, and you’re prepared to wait 30+ years for today’s voters to age. I like your plan!

    You’re the bomb, North Dallas!

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 8:14 pm - November 17, 2008

  56. Actually, what most readers have noticed by now, JR, is that you refuse to state that Ayers is a terrorist. You consider Liddy one for planning a bombing, but you then refuse to state that Ayers is one for planning, carrying out, proclaiming, and pushing bombing as a tactic, killing several people, and THEN saying that he wished he had done more of it.

    Now state that Ayers is a terrorist. Since you claim to have “implied” it, it should be no problem for you to state that Ayers IS a terrorist. But again, we’re dealing with the fact that you would then have to admit that Barack Obama not only supports and endorses terrorists like Ayers, but supports them teaching their radical theories and philosophy to public school children.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 17, 2008 @ 8:40 pm - November 17, 2008

  57. Funny, you’ve said countless times that Ayers is a terrorist, but you still won’t condemn Liddy…you guys brought up the subject, not me. I wasn’t calling anyone anything. I was merely struck by the similarity between what Ayers had done (which you find so appalling) and what Liddy did (but you just can’t bring yourself to criticize in even the mildest terms.) So, I’m wondering what terrorism is to you? Perhaps to you, it’s when a leftwing person commits an act of violence. If that’s your definition, are you surprised that I’m not playing with you? You’re definition is foolish. When you seem to have an reasonable view of the topic, I’ll answer your question.

    Comment by JR — November 17, 2008 @ 10:44 pm - November 17, 2008

  58. Since evidently you want me to provide the links to the photos of a completely drunk and sexually harassing GW Bush,

    One of the first chapters in all of my EMS & Fire textbooks covers basics of the law. These chapters include Libel and Slander. The most common example is that you CANNOT write or say that a patient was drunk since you do not give blood or breathalyzer exams.

    Therefore, JR, what you have done is committed an act of libel. You can spin, bloviate, piss and moan all you want, but that’s exactly what you did. You didn’t provide a link that showed his BAC, so as far as I’m concerned, you’re full of shit. Grab your sack and own up to it.

    I was merely struck by the similarity between what Ayers had done (which you find so appalling) and what Liddy did (but you just can’t bring yourself to criticize in even the mildest terms.)

    What, exactly, did Liddy do that one should be apalled about??? Why won’t you condemn Ayers? You want us to believe you give a damn about terrorism but so far, you’ve provided nothing but excuses.

    Now as to the AP photos, if I recall correctly, the AP also published several doctored photos during the Israel-Hamas war a few summers ago. They also ran with the doctored photos of Iran firing a bunch of missils a few months ago. As far as the liberal media “covering for Bush”, who was it that went apeshit calling him a Satanist for showing the “Hook ‘em horns” sign? Why, no other than the liberal left.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 18, 2008 @ 12:28 am - November 18, 2008

  59. I wasn’t calling anyone anything.

    Liar. You yourself admitted you were calling Liddy a terrorist.

    I have said (and no one has disputed) that Gordon Liddy is a terrorist

    Can’t you understand that Rightwing Hero and Terrorist Liddy’s bombing didn’t happen ONLY because he got arrested on other federal crime charges.

    You’ve called Liddy a terrorist twice for planning a bombing. You still refuse to call Ayers one even though Ayers planned, produced, and carried out multiple bombings of public buildings, police stations, and private homes, not to mention the murder of several police officers and guards.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 18, 2008 @ 1:27 am - November 18, 2008

  60. More importantly, he’s yet to provide any links. Well except to a photo montage from AP showing the President enjoying the Olympics (and Misty May Trainor and her partner both commented on how polite Pres. Bush was) and accusing him of being drunk.

    just wondering… my partner’s been sober for 16 years, including not drinking when her husband was dying from cancer last year. Maybe JR just can’t believe others can overcome their impulses and vices, because he can’t overcome his?

    Comment by The Livewire — November 18, 2008 @ 7:22 am - November 18, 2008

RSS feed for comments on this post.

Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.