just wondering… my partner’s been sober for 16 years, including not drinking when her husband was dying from cancer last year. Maybe JR just can’t believe others can overcome their impulses and vices, because he can’t overcome his?

Liar. You yourself admitted you were calling Liddy a terrorist.

I have said (and no one has disputed) that Gordon Liddy is a terrorist

Can’t you understand that Rightwing Hero and Terrorist Liddy’s bombing didn’t happen ONLY because he got arrested on other federal crime charges.

You’ve called Liddy a terrorist twice for planning a bombing. You still refuse to call Ayers one even though Ayers planned, produced, and carried out multiple bombings of public buildings, police stations, and private homes, not to mention the murder of several police officers and guards.

Since evidently you want me to provide the links to the photos of a completely drunk and sexually harassing GW Bush,

One of the first chapters in all of my EMS & Fire textbooks covers basics of the law. These chapters include Libel and Slander. The most common example is that you CANNOT write or say that a patient was drunk since you do not give blood or breathalyzer exams.

Therefore, JR, what you have done is committed an act of libel. You can spin, bloviate, piss and moan all you want, but that’s exactly what you did. You didn’t provide a link that showed his BAC, so as far as I’m concerned, you’re full of shit. Grab your sack and own up to it.

I was merely struck by the similarity between what Ayers had done (which you find so appalling) and what Liddy did (but you just can’t bring yourself to criticize in even the mildest terms.)

What, exactly, did Liddy do that one should be apalled about??? Why won’t you condemn Ayers? You want us to believe you give a damn about terrorism but so far, you’ve provided nothing but excuses.

Now as to the AP photos, if I recall correctly, the AP also published several doctored photos during the Israel-Hamas war a few summers ago. They also ran with the doctored photos of Iran firing a bunch of missils a few months ago. As far as the liberal media “covering for Bush”, who was it that went apeshit calling him a Satanist for showing the “Hook ‘em horns” sign? Why, no other than the liberal left.

Now state that Ayers is a terrorist. Since you claim to have “implied” it, it should be no problem for you to state that Ayers IS a terrorist. But again, we’re dealing with the fact that you would then have to admit that Barack Obama not only supports and endorses terrorists like Ayers, but supports them teaching their radical theories and philosophy to public school children.

You spend so much time reading things into what I write that I neither wrote nor think, it’s a wonder you have the time to come up with a GOP Victory Plan, but you do!

Well, the Republicans did okay with voters over 60, and you’re prepared to wait 30+ years for today’s voters to age. I like your plan!

You’re the bomb, North Dallas!

Voters under 30 have a strange characteristic; they age, and oddly enough as they age and start having incomes, children, and bills, they aren’t as susceptible to the insistence that they be taxed heavily to pay for those who refuse to work.

Purchasing college students is easy; as Barack Obama did, just promise them that the government will do just like Mom and Dad and give them free food, free housing, free spending money, and free cars, all without having to lift a finger or pay a penny on their part.

Since the Democrats support punishing those who work to purchase voters like these, they never will vote for Republicans — and they never have. Republicans should focus on those voters who Democrats are punishing and demanding fund the Democrat Party’s vote-purchasing programs. They should ask voters who work hard and get an education why they should be taxed and punished so that Obama can purchase the votes of the lazy and the irresponsible.

And again, JR, you and your candidate Barack Obama say that Ayers should not be held responsible or called a terrorist for his planned bombing of a military dance at Fort Dix — which was averted only because the bomb exploded prematurely, killing three people and causing massive property damage. You fully support and endorse the multiple bombings of public buildings and police stations, the murder of the Brinks guards, and the firebombing of houses with sleeping children in them, as NOT being terrorism — all because Ayers did them. By your own definition, Liddy is not a terrorist, since you refuse to state that Ayers is a terrorist.

Also, from that ABC citation, note that Bill Ayers, who is fully supported and endorsed by Barack Obama, teaches children that planting bombs is not terrorism. Of course you support that, because otherwise, you would have to admit that your candidate Barack Obama supports people who plant bombs in public buildings and gives these people millions of dollars to teach their beliefs to children.

My point is that while you whine about the ‘easy’ treatment Obama got, you ignore the pass Bush has had for 8 years. Did you see it in ANY newspaper, on the news on ANY station?

North Dallas is making stuff up. I never “screamed” or even implied that McCain is awful. I was just trying to get you to see that you have one standard for rightwing terrorists and another for left. You don’t care AT ALL about Liddy’s bomb plan, clearly. In the real world, that’s hypocrisy.

I am in no way, accidentally or otherwise, saying that Obama or I are keen on any terrorists. You read into posts whatever is convenient, just as “neighbor and family friend” becomes “close personal friend,” and a quote, at that. Should he have denounced Ayers? Maybe. Should McCain have denounce Liddy? Will you? You’re so keen on denouncing, let’s hear it!

Meanwhile, your party lost by 7 million votes, didn’t get many of its voters to the polls (perhaps because they focused on garbage like this and accusations that Obama is Muslim.) If you don’t have the sense to try to figure out how you’re going to come up with a winning combination for the future, when you were rejected by over two-thirds of voters under 30, I certainly won’t help you. Focus on your many grievances, concentrate on the unfairness of it all, come up with a conspiracy theory or two: see where it gets you.

By trying to claim McCain supports and endorses terrorists, JR is accidentally admitting that Obama supports and endorses terrorists. But then again, JR doesn’t care, because terrorists like Ayers who blow up police stations, who attack public buildings, and who firebomb houses with sleeping children inside are heroes of the left and the Democrat Party to whom he belongs. He sees Ayers’s actions as completely justified and refuses to condemn them.

That was snark by the way.

“Neighbor and family friend” I know facts, such pesky things aren’t they.

Still no links on GGL bombings. See, the majority of conservatives condemn violence like abortion bombings, Tim McVeigh, the Weathermen, etc. Our future president? He gives people like that grant money and has fund raisers in his office.

I can get 2200000 hits on JR buggers sheep. So who knows what I’ll get on G Gordon Liddy and bombings.

In addition, nothing on the link you provided says “close personal friend,” so I’m going to assume that you’ve concocted that also. Evidently it doesn’t say that in Ayers’ book, either. But what’s a lie?

Third, evidently the standard for whether it’s bad to be “pals” with a terrorist is whether they have a coffee for you. Who knew?

But I quote from Carl Bernstein “In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain’s senatorial re-election campaign — the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy’s syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host’s values.”

But Liddy was the good kind of terrorist bomber, I guess.

Hypocrites. But you make up for your appalling moral relativism with your childish condescension. Go lose some more elections.

Since evidently you want me to provide the links to the photos of a completely drunk and sexually harassing GW Bush, here goes:

http://virtualreview.org/china/zoom/703416/bush-drunk-olympic-games-beijing-2008

ps Slander or libel, a lie is still a lie. But what’s it to you?

Also, from that ABC citation, note that Bill Ayers, who is fully supported and endorsed by Barack Obama, teaches children that planting bombs is not terrorism. Of course you support that, because otherwise, you would have to admit that your candidate Barack Obama supports people who plant bombs in public buildings and gives these people millions of dollars to teach their beliefs to children.

Do you see that? It’s called a ‘link’ Most people use them to support their arguments. They’re almost as powerful as those things that bother you called ‘facts’.

Say it with me, “William Ayers is a terrorist by his own definition. I repudiate his actions and people need to disassociate themselves from him.”

Now as you’ve not answered my other questions, I’ll repeat them here. The words aren’t too big, so I believe you understand them. Try sounding them out:

“Is GGL a ‘close personal friend’ of Sen McCain? Did Sen McCain have fund raiser at GGL’s house? Has Sen McCain worked hand in hand with GGL for years? Are there records that won’t be released?”

Oh, and if it’s in print, it’s Libel, not slander.

A long quote from nutcase propagandist Jonah Goldberg doesn’t impress me. It is just more of the same. I am surprised to find out that you were in church with Barack Obama to hear him cheer, or are you just making that up, too?

Google George Bush drunk at Olympics–see what the MSM is REALLY covering up.

Convinced that all whites were born tainted with the original sin of “skin privilege,” the fighting brigade of the New Left internalized racialist thinking as hatred of their own whiteness. “All white babies are pigs,” declared one Weatherman. On one occasion the feminist poet Robin Morgan was breast-feeding her son at the offices of the radical journal Rat. A Weatherwoman saw this and told her, “You have no right to have that pig male baby.” “How can you say that?” Morgan asked. “What should I do?” “Put it in the garbage,” the Weatherwoman answered.

Bernadine Dohrn [Ayers' wife], an acid-loving University of Chicago law student turned revolutionary, reflected the widespread New Left fascination with the serial-killing hippie Übermensch Charles Manson. “Dig It! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” In appreciation, her Weather Underground cell made a three-fingered “fork” gesture its official salute.

Then again, Obama was clapping and cheering for the same thing being spewed from the pulpit by Jeremiah Wright, so it should be no surprise that Obama was directing millions of dollars to promote and push Ayers.

Let’s see, planned bombing versus actual bombings, as carried out by Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground and endorsed by Chairman O.

When you admit that Bill Ayers was a terrorist, then we can talk. But until then, applying your own standards that not even ACTUAL bombings count as terrorism, why should we worry about Liddy? Better yet, since you whine and scream that Obama, who actually endorses and supports Ayers, has praised and promoted Ayers’ s theories and books, and who has worked with Ayers on numerous occasions to implement Ayers’s radical racist and leftist theories in public schools, is not an Obama “crony”, why should we care about Liddy, for whom McCain has never done anything even remotely close to what Obama has done for Ayers?

I have said (and no one has disputed) that Gordon Liddy is a terrorist and a McCain crony, but no one here seems to have a problem with that. That is hypocrisy.