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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Admiration &#38; Mistrust for Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Admiration &#38; Mistrust for Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James L. Jones as National Security Adviser, Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and with Robert Gates rumored to remain as Secretary of Defense, the new president will have a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obamaâ€™s decision to offer Hillary Clinton the Secretary of State post could well turn out to be his first major blunder, for these obvious reasons:   

First, thereâ€™s the inseparable bond with her husband Bill. Given the duoâ€™s unquenchable thirst for power, they would not be content to play second fiddle.  From day one they would be scheming to usurp control of the White House. Once they get a foothold, Obama would be hard-pressed to rein them in. 

Then, thereâ€™s the Clintonsâ€™ long history of corruption, deception and sleazeâ€”Whitewatergate, Pardongate, Cattle-futuresgate, Chinagate, Filegate, Fellatiogate, the impeachment and near conviction, the punitive IRS audits, the violent deaths of potentially incriminating witness.  This alone would provide Obamaâ€™s enemies with all the grime they needed to smear his presidency.   

Consider further that unlike a Condoleezza Rice or a Madelaine Albrightâ€”not to mention bona fide statesmen like Henry Kissinger, Dean Rusk and John Foster Dulles--Hillary Clinton lacks the educational and cultural gravitas to represent our nation abroad.  Her lawyering in Arkansas and stint in Congress doesnâ€™t quite cut it. She did get 18 million votes in the Democratic primaries, probably more than Obama, but a large proportion of those votes were cast by  diehard feminists and the less educated, hardly the constituency whose support lends credibility to a Secretary of State.  

Barack Obama should recall the reasons why he didnâ€™t choose Hillary as his VP running mate.  For his and the nationâ€™s sake, let us hope that she doesnâ€™t accept his Secretary of State offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obamaâ€™s decision to offer Hillary Clinton the Secretary of State post could well turn out to be his first major blunder, for these obvious reasons:   </p>
<p>First, thereâ€™s the inseparable bond with her husband Bill. Given the duoâ€™s unquenchable thirst for power, they would not be content to play second fiddle.  From day one they would be scheming to usurp control of the White House. Once they get a foothold, Obama would be hard-pressed to rein them in. </p>
<p>Then, thereâ€™s the Clintonsâ€™ long history of corruption, deception and sleazeâ€”Whitewatergate, Pardongate, Cattle-futuresgate, Chinagate, Filegate, Fellatiogate, the impeachment and near conviction, the punitive IRS audits, the violent deaths of potentially incriminating witness.  This alone would provide Obamaâ€™s enemies with all the grime they needed to smear his presidency.   </p>
<p>Consider further that unlike a Condoleezza Rice or a Madelaine Albrightâ€”not to mention bona fide statesmen like Henry Kissinger, Dean Rusk and John Foster Dulles&#8211;Hillary Clinton lacks the educational and cultural gravitas to represent our nation abroad.  Her lawyering in Arkansas and stint in Congress doesnâ€™t quite cut it. She did get 18 million votes in the Democratic primaries, probably more than Obama, but a large proportion of those votes were cast by  diehard feminists and the less educated, hardly the constituency whose support lends credibility to a Secretary of State.  </p>
<p>Barack Obama should recall the reasons why he didnâ€™t choose Hillary as his VP running mate.  For his and the nationâ€™s sake, let us hope that she doesnâ€™t accept his Secretary of State offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Stopped Clock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stopped Clock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a test post to see why my earlier post never appeared</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a test post to see why my earlier post never appeared</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveP: ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveP: <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cme</title>
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		<dc:creator>cme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sen. Clinton would actually be the most respectable choice of SoS likely to be chosen.  I&#039;m not fan of her, but I do think she would be able to do a much more commendable job than other likely possibilities.

The cynical Republican in me wants Sen. Kerry to get the job.  I think he&#039;d be an embarrassment to the Obama administration.  Once he&#039;d be done as SoS, I&#039;m not sure where he&#039;d go next.  Once he&#039;s out of the Senate, I&#039;m not sure anyone would be clamoring for him to come back to elected office.  (Am I wrong?)  He could then retire and leave the rest of us alone.

However, I am an American first and do want Pres. Obama to succeed.  Therefore, I think we are better off with Sen. Clinton getting picked over Sen. Kerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sen. Clinton would actually be the most respectable choice of SoS likely to be chosen.  I&#8217;m not fan of her, but I do think she would be able to do a much more commendable job than other likely possibilities.</p>
<p>The cynical Republican in me wants Sen. Kerry to get the job.  I think he&#8217;d be an embarrassment to the Obama administration.  Once he&#8217;d be done as SoS, I&#8217;m not sure where he&#8217;d go next.  Once he&#8217;s out of the Senate, I&#8217;m not sure anyone would be clamoring for him to come back to elected office.  (Am I wrong?)  He could then retire and leave the rest of us alone.</p>
<p>However, I am an American first and do want Pres. Obama to succeed.  Therefore, I think we are better off with Sen. Clinton getting picked over Sen. Kerry.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce (GayPatriot)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce (GayPatriot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I reluctantly agree with everything Dan said in the original post.  Astounding.  But if the alternative is John Kerry, I&#039;d take Hillary any day.

However, I DO have to take exception with the glowing praise of George Schulz, Dan.   That has me mystified.

My favorite Secretary of State of all time:  Ben Franklin -- before there was even a SoS job!

11 -- LOL.  I hadn&#039;t thought of that...but you are so right.  Upside for Hillary being dumped by Prez Barack -- she could run against him as a &quot;Washington outsider&quot;  *chokes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I reluctantly agree with everything Dan said in the original post.  Astounding.  But if the alternative is John Kerry, I&#8217;d take Hillary any day.</p>
<p>However, I DO have to take exception with the glowing praise of George Schulz, Dan.   That has me mystified.</p>
<p>My favorite Secretary of State of all time:  Ben Franklin &#8212; before there was even a SoS job!</p>
<p>11 &#8212; LOL.  I hadn&#8217;t thought of that&#8230;but you are so right.  Upside for Hillary being dumped by Prez Barack &#8212; she could run against him as a &#8220;Washington outsider&#8221;  *chokes*</p>
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		<title>By: DaveP.</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/17/hillary-as-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-331982</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveP.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, G.W. Bush had to deal with the curse of a SecState who thought that American foreign policy emerged from Foggy Bottom and not the Oval Office... why shouldn&#039;t Barack?

Ignatius wins the Ironic Comment of the Day Award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, G.W. Bush had to deal with the curse of a SecState who thought that American foreign policy emerged from Foggy Bottom and not the Oval Office&#8230; why shouldn&#8217;t Barack?</p>
<p>Ignatius wins the Ironic Comment of the Day Award.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hillary ever hopes to be POTUS, she would be a damn fool to take SOS. I don&#039;t see her being the one to carry the water on what will be a lot of foreign policy disasters under the Marxist in Chief. I laugh at all the MSM who think she is a dead duck because she will go no where in the Senate because without a Committee Chair you are nothing..duh, she is a powerful force of one on her own. If she ever hopes to run for President, be SOS is not the way to go for her to be saddled with the Marxist in Chief&#039;s failures around her neck and right up to her neck.

Nobama wants her muzzled and this is the best way of doing that. I don&#039;t see Biden being too happy either if Hillary takes SOS since that will take all the reasoning out of his being VP (since it was implied he had the foreign policy experience and would be in charge of it due to Nobama&#039;s inexperience in that area.)

On a different note, what happened to the &quot;Change You Can Believe In&quot;.....the Nobama transition team in the Third Term of the Clinton Administration, with nearly all of them Lobbyists that Nobama said would never be in his Administration.

When the MSM is for Hillary to be SOS, then you know something smells..they want her out of the way so there is no criticism of the Messiah....I sure hope Hillary doesn&#039;t do it.....I might add she really has no foreign policy experience, plus, can&#039;t run administrative duties (she ran an unorganized campaign) so how is going to run the Dept of State? 

Plus, I do not want to Hillary to take it so Nobama has at least someone in the Democratic Party to try and keep him in check. With Hillary gone there is no one on the Left to keep the Chosen One in any possible check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hillary ever hopes to be POTUS, she would be a damn fool to take SOS. I don&#8217;t see her being the one to carry the water on what will be a lot of foreign policy disasters under the Marxist in Chief. I laugh at all the MSM who think she is a dead duck because she will go no where in the Senate because without a Committee Chair you are nothing..duh, she is a powerful force of one on her own. If she ever hopes to run for President, be SOS is not the way to go for her to be saddled with the Marxist in Chief&#8217;s failures around her neck and right up to her neck.</p>
<p>Nobama wants her muzzled and this is the best way of doing that. I don&#8217;t see Biden being too happy either if Hillary takes SOS since that will take all the reasoning out of his being VP (since it was implied he had the foreign policy experience and would be in charge of it due to Nobama&#8217;s inexperience in that area.)</p>
<p>On a different note, what happened to the &#8220;Change You Can Believe In&#8221;&#8230;..the Nobama transition team in the Third Term of the Clinton Administration, with nearly all of them Lobbyists that Nobama said would never be in his Administration.</p>
<p>When the MSM is for Hillary to be SOS, then you know something smells..they want her out of the way so there is no criticism of the Messiah&#8230;.I sure hope Hillary doesn&#8217;t do it&#8230;..I might add she really has no foreign policy experience, plus, can&#8217;t run administrative duties (she ran an unorganized campaign) so how is going to run the Dept of State? </p>
<p>Plus, I do not want to Hillary to take it so Nobama has at least someone in the Democratic Party to try and keep him in check. With Hillary gone there is no one on the Left to keep the Chosen One in any possible check.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering he has Madeline Albright (major failure) involved in his presidential transition I don&#039;t think Hillary will take the bait.

Hillary has already said she would not accept a Supreme Court nod.....why would she step in as Secretary of State.

Dead End Job!

Jeb n Tex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering he has Madeline Albright (major failure) involved in his presidential transition I don&#8217;t think Hillary will take the bait.</p>
<p>Hillary has already said she would not accept a Supreme Court nod&#8230;..why would she step in as Secretary of State.</p>
<p>Dead End Job!</p>
<p>Jeb n Tex</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many are wondering why Republicans were defeated so resoundingly.  These warm, sympathetic comments for Mrs. Bill Clinton are certainly one indicator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many are wondering why Republicans were defeated so resoundingly.  These warm, sympathetic comments for Mrs. Bill Clinton are certainly one indicator.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to think that Comrade Obama&#039;s going to surround himself with failure so that he has plenty of scapegoats to point the finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to think that Comrade Obama&#8217;s going to surround himself with failure so that he has plenty of scapegoats to point the finger.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, where&#039;s Torricelli on Comrade Obama&#039;s lists? Why not make it real interesting and add Paul Wellstone and Mel Carnahan? They could probably do a better job than that other Chicago THUG politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, where&#8217;s Torricelli on Comrade Obama&#8217;s lists? Why not make it real interesting and add Paul Wellstone and Mel Carnahan? They could probably do a better job than that other Chicago THUG politician.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you look over Comrade Obama&#039;s appointment lists, one has to notice the ship of the damned he could put together. Talk about a laundry list of failure. Why not throw in Bob Shrum, Bernie Sanders and the cast of Err America (they need jobs)?

#15
I&#039;m sure John F.You Kerry, who served in Vietnam (seems you&#039;ve forgotten), would be very keen on telling the president what he ought to do, despite the fact that it&#039;s already being done.

Think Kerry would demand Comrade Obama do something (like talk to the Saudis about high oil prices) and then bitch about it when he does so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you look over Comrade Obama&#8217;s appointment lists, one has to notice the ship of the damned he could put together. Talk about a laundry list of failure. Why not throw in Bob Shrum, Bernie Sanders and the cast of Err America (they need jobs)?</p>
<p>#15<br />
I&#8217;m sure John F.You Kerry, who served in Vietnam (seems you&#8217;ve forgotten), would be very keen on telling the president what he ought to do, despite the fact that it&#8217;s already being done.</p>
<p>Think Kerry would demand Comrade Obama do something (like talk to the Saudis about high oil prices) and then bitch about it when he does so?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I will say for Obama, at least he isn&#039;t quite as insufferable as John Kerry. Please! Appoint Kerry to HUD or Education, or ambassador to Botswana! something where we never have to see or hear him again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I will say for Obama, at least he isn&#8217;t quite as insufferable as John Kerry. Please! Appoint Kerry to HUD or Education, or ambassador to Botswana! something where we never have to see or hear him again!</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If HRC takes the SoS position, Iâ€™d be afraid of BHO firing her after a few months.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So she&#039;d be SOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If HRC takes the SoS position, Iâ€™d be afraid of BHO firing her after a few months.</p></blockquote>
<p>So she&#8217;d be SOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremayakovka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremayakovka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7, The difference: Hillary is the Devil &lt;i&gt;that we know&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7, The difference: Hillary is the Devil <i>that we know</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose that with Hillary at State, Obama won&#039;t have to worry about Bill undermining his foreign policy. However, I will really be surprised if Obama can keep his cabinet either awake or in line. He is likely to try the &quot;collegial&quot;  approach of organization at first and then switch to cabinet meetings by YouTube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that with Hillary at State, Obama won&#8217;t have to worry about Bill undermining his foreign policy. However, I will really be surprised if Obama can keep his cabinet either awake or in line. He is likely to try the &#8220;collegial&#8221;  approach of organization at first and then switch to cabinet meetings by YouTube.</p>
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		<title>By: windybon</title>
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		<dc:creator>windybon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If HRC takes the SoS position, I&#039;d be afraid of BHO firing her after a few months.  This would put her out of the Senate and out of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If HRC takes the SoS position, I&#8217;d be afraid of BHO firing her after a few months.  This would put her out of the Senate and out of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie the Jarhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie the Jarhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Hillary AND Sarah in 2012?

Thank about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Hillary AND Sarah in 2012?</p>
<p>Thank about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone but Kerry!</description>
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