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	<title>Comments on: CA Supreme Court to Hear Challenges to Prop 8</title>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Another Argument for Making the Case for Gay Marriage</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/19/ca-supreme-court-to-hear-challenges-to-prop-8/comment-page-1/#comment-333894</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Another Argument for Making the Case for Gay Marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in our state constitution does not belong there because, as I put it in a recent post, &#8220;I prefer democracy to oligarchy.&#8221; McGurn fleshes out that argument: The great achievement of our system was to create a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in our state constitution does not belong there because, as I put it in a recent post, &#8220;I prefer democracy to oligarchy.&#8221; McGurn fleshes out that argument: The great achievement of our system was to create a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; The word games of Prop 8 opponents</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; The word games of Prop 8 opponents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of gay marriage twist reality to advance their cause.Â  Last week, in a release announcing that the California Supreme Court would hear challenges to Proposition 8, an American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) release reported: The lawsuits allege that, on its face, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of gay marriage twist reality to advance their cause.Â  Last week, in a release announcing that the California Supreme Court would hear challenges to Proposition 8, an American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) release reported: The lawsuits allege that, on its face, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.letfreedomringusa.com/news/read/240</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet there is the Gay Mafia, Attmay.  I saw Will &amp; Grace and learned to fear this insidious, yet fabulous, queer group!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet there is the Gay Mafia, Attmay.  I saw Will &amp; Grace and learned to fear this insidious, yet fabulous, queer group!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/19/ca-supreme-court-to-hear-challenges-to-prop-8/comment-page-1/#comment-333014</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>given your recent posts, i&#039;m not surprised to hear you say so attmay, but I don&#039;t hear anyone else saying it but you, which is enough said.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>given your recent posts, i&#8217;m not surprised to hear you say so attmay, but I don&#8217;t hear anyone else saying it but you, which is enough said.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/19/ca-supreme-court-to-hear-challenges-to-prop-8/comment-page-1/#comment-333011</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no &quot;gay lynch mobs&quot;. There is no Al-Gayda or Lezbollah that plans to send suicide bombers to anti-gay churches, businesses, or organization. There are, however, a few angry people who misplaced their anger at black people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no &#8220;gay lynch mobs&#8221;. There is no Al-Gayda or Lezbollah that plans to send suicide bombers to anti-gay churches, businesses, or organization. There are, however, a few angry people who misplaced their anger at black people.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>problem is if you keep overturning this stuff, anarchy can be the only result.  In a disturbing aside, the behavior of the gay lynch mobs is similar to that of the KKK and their like in the south during the civil rights movement.  It&#039;s only a matter of time till churches get burned and dissenters get hanged if they (the gay lynch mobs) don&#039;t get their way.  It&#039;s hard to reconcile this behavior with the &quot;tolerance, rainbow flag&quot; crowd&quot; but I have always known that in human nature, an oppressed group will never be satified, once released from their oppression (real or imagined,) until they themselves become the oppressors.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>problem is if you keep overturning this stuff, anarchy can be the only result.  In a disturbing aside, the behavior of the gay lynch mobs is similar to that of the KKK and their like in the south during the civil rights movement.  It&#8217;s only a matter of time till churches get burned and dissenters get hanged if they (the gay lynch mobs) don&#8217;t get their way.  It&#8217;s hard to reconcile this behavior with the &#8220;tolerance, rainbow flag&#8221; crowd&#8221; but I have always known that in human nature, an oppressed group will never be satified, once released from their oppression (real or imagined,) until they themselves become the oppressors.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can I say Attmay?

You deserve nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say Attmay?</p>
<p>You deserve nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical glib response.

&lt;i&gt;The will of the judges interred the Japanese&lt;/i&gt;

Your buddy Michelle Malkin had no problem with that.

None of these Republican judges were going to take marriage rights away from heterosexuals, though Lord knows they&#039;ve been asking for it for decades; after seeing a news report about the &quot;Ashley Madison&quot; website, I wonder why heterosexuals are defensive about an institution they seem to take lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical glib response.</p>
<p><i>The will of the judges interred the Japanese</i></p>
<p>Your buddy Michelle Malkin had no problem with that.</p>
<p>None of these Republican judges were going to take marriage rights away from heterosexuals, though Lord knows they&#8217;ve been asking for it for decades; after seeing a news report about the &#8220;Ashley Madison&#8221; website, I wonder why heterosexuals are defensive about an institution they seem to take lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust the will of the judges.

The will of the judges interred the Japanese, declared slavery was allowed throughout the union and decided that the state can seize the property of free men and give it to other men to make it &#039;profitable&#039;.

The Will of the people shoved their Homosexual Supremacist definition of marriage down the throats of the state of California.

There.  Fixed it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust the will of the judges.</p>
<p>The will of the judges interred the Japanese, declared slavery was allowed throughout the union and decided that the state can seize the property of free men and give it to other men to make it &#8216;profitable&#8217;.</p>
<p>The Will of the people shoved their Homosexual Supremacist definition of marriage down the throats of the state of California.</p>
<p>There.  Fixed it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - &quot;The will of the people elected a cryptofascist with the economic sense of Jimmy Carter, the respect for individual rights of Woodrow Wilson, and the ethical code of Richard Nixon.&quot;

How dare you talk about Dear Leader Obamamessiah like that!  Off to the Glorious Revolution Reeducation Camp in remote Wyoming for you!  You will receive your pink star upon arrival.   ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; &#8220;The will of the people elected a cryptofascist with the economic sense of Jimmy Carter, the respect for individual rights of Woodrow Wilson, and the ethical code of Richard Nixon.&#8221;</p>
<p>How dare you talk about Dear Leader Obamamessiah like that!  Off to the Glorious Revolution Reeducation Camp in remote Wyoming for you!  You will receive your pink star upon arrival.   <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t support the will of the people.

The will of the people elected a cryptofascist with the economic sense of Jimmy Carter, the respect for individual rights of Woodrow Wilson, and the ethical code of Richard Nixon.

The will of the people shoved their heterosexual supremacist definition of marriage down the throats of the state of California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t support the will of the people.</p>
<p>The will of the people elected a cryptofascist with the economic sense of Jimmy Carter, the respect for individual rights of Woodrow Wilson, and the ethical code of Richard Nixon.</p>
<p>The will of the people shoved their heterosexual supremacist definition of marriage down the throats of the state of California.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing then, buckeyenutlover, that the courts -can&#039;t- overturn Ohio&#039;s Doma.

Must frost you, living in a state that honours the will of the people, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing then, buckeyenutlover, that the courts -can&#8217;t- overturn Ohio&#8217;s Doma.</p>
<p>Must frost you, living in a state that honours the will of the people, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyenutlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckeyenutlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great news, and the CA SC will undoubtedly overturn Prop 8, as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great news, and the CA SC will undoubtedly overturn Prop 8, as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The court wonâ€™t overturn Prop 8.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Perhaps, perhaps not.  The SanFran Chronicle seems to think it won&#039;t be either since Kennard dissented in hearing the case.  I do disagree with Dan that this isn&#039;t a revision, just like I believe these bans are violations of the 14th Amendment, but it really doesn&#039;t matter.  In legal thinking I suspect we are in the pre-Brown years one could say when Plessy was not seen in any way as violating the 14th Amendment.  Guess that leaves us with a lot more work to do in the meantime.
&lt;blockquote&gt;itâ€™ll be repealed in 2010 or 2012. Iâ€™d put my money on 2010.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I wish I shared your optimism but if the CA Supremes uphold Prop 8, I very seriously doubt a repeal will be successful for at least the next 10 years.  
&lt;blockquote&gt;If the CSC is anything like the 9th Circus, theyâ€™ll agree to anything that runs counter to common sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Which means they&#039;ll uphold Prop 8 then.  :-)  Boi From Troy made an interesting point yesterday that the GOP may get a very phyrric victory out of threats to &#039;recall&#039; those Justices who ruled for SSM in May.

http://boifromtroy.com/?p=7575
&lt;blockquote&gt;Should the new RNC chair look into this, weâ€™ll be back in the game not just in time for the 2010 elections, but in time to wrest the Virginia Governorâ€™s mansion from the Democrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I find that to be very, VERY doubtful Dan.  Well, except for the Virginia Guv spot.  That is a possibility, especially if the Dems are stupid enough to put Terry McCauliffe up as their nominee.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Lesson from 2000: just because something uses the Internet doesnâ€™t make up for the fact that itâ€™s a lousy product.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I used to believe that until Obama won handily earlier this month.  Now I&#039;m not sure what to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The court wonâ€™t overturn Prop 8.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps, perhaps not.  The SanFran Chronicle seems to think it won&#8217;t be either since Kennard dissented in hearing the case.  I do disagree with Dan that this isn&#8217;t a revision, just like I believe these bans are violations of the 14th Amendment, but it really doesn&#8217;t matter.  In legal thinking I suspect we are in the pre-Brown years one could say when Plessy was not seen in any way as violating the 14th Amendment.  Guess that leaves us with a lot more work to do in the meantime.</p>
<blockquote><p>itâ€™ll be repealed in 2010 or 2012. Iâ€™d put my money on 2010.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish I shared your optimism but if the CA Supremes uphold Prop 8, I very seriously doubt a repeal will be successful for at least the next 10 years.  </p>
<blockquote><p>If the CSC is anything like the 9th Circus, theyâ€™ll agree to anything that runs counter to common sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which means they&#8217;ll uphold Prop 8 then.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Boi From Troy made an interesting point yesterday that the GOP may get a very phyrric victory out of threats to &#8216;recall&#8217; those Justices who ruled for SSM in May.</p>
<p><a href="http://boifromtroy.com/?p=7575" rel="nofollow">http://boifromtroy.com/?p=7575</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Should the new RNC chair look into this, weâ€™ll be back in the game not just in time for the 2010 elections, but in time to wrest the Virginia Governorâ€™s mansion from the Democrats.</p></blockquote>
<p>I find that to be very, VERY doubtful Dan.  Well, except for the Virginia Guv spot.  That is a possibility, especially if the Dems are stupid enough to put Terry McCauliffe up as their nominee.</p>
<blockquote><p>Lesson from 2000: just because something uses the Internet doesnâ€™t make up for the fact that itâ€™s a lousy product.</p></blockquote>
<p>I used to believe that until Obama won handily earlier this month.  Now I&#8217;m not sure what to think.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>make no mistake, they have not won and can not win if we do not let them.  There will always be 1/3 of us, just like there were only 1/3 of us that wanted to succeed from GB.  This is a Constitutional crisis and may require drastic action to preserve our rights to &quot;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.&quot;  Our right to vote and have that vote count is at stake, no less.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>make no mistake, they have not won and can not win if we do not let them.  There will always be 1/3 of us, just like there were only 1/3 of us that wanted to succeed from GB.  This is a Constitutional crisis and may require drastic action to preserve our rights to &#8220;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.&#8221;  Our right to vote and have that vote count is at stake, no less.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/19/ca-supreme-court-to-hear-challenges-to-prop-8/comment-page-1/#comment-332489</link>
		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Now AE,

Didn&#039;t you here that djjd djjd is being offered a position in the treasury department?

Made up names, indeed ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Now AE,</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you here that djjd djjd is being offered a position in the treasury department?</p>
<p>Made up names, indeed <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;is going to somehow be successful because itâ€™s â€” wooooo â€” Internet-based.&lt;/blockquote&gt;lol. &lt;blockquote&gt;The Republican fundraising advantage? Gone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only cus Democrats actively pursue illegal contributions. Going out of their way to remove safeguards against them, courting illegal foreign campaign contributions, nearly destroying the country trying to hide it from the FBI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>is going to somehow be successful because itâ€™s â€” wooooo â€” Internet-based.</p></blockquote>
<p>lol.<br />
<blockquote>The Republican fundraising advantage? Gone.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only cus Democrats actively pursue illegal contributions. Going out of their way to remove safeguards against them, courting illegal foreign campaign contributions, nearly destroying the country trying to hide it from the FBI.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeay, but remember, Erik, it didn&#039;t take long for the Democrats to learn to harness the Internet.  And the GOP had a light edge as recently as four years ago.  

I&#039;ve read enough posts to know that leading Republicans are aware of the problem.  Should the new RNC chair look into this, we&#039;ll be back in the game not just in time for the 2010 elections, but in time to wrest the Virginia Governor&#039;s mansion from the Democrats.  And possibly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drumthwacket.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drumthwacket&lt;/a&gt; as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeay, but remember, Erik, it didn&#8217;t take long for the Democrats to learn to harness the Internet.  And the GOP had a light edge as recently as four years ago.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read enough posts to know that leading Republicans are aware of the problem.  Should the new RNC chair look into this, we&#8217;ll be back in the game not just in time for the 2010 elections, but in time to wrest the Virginia Governor&#8217;s mansion from the Democrats.  And possibly <a href="http://www.drumthwacket.org/" rel="nofollow">Drumthwacket</a> as well.</p>
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