You’re assuming a) they’d accept it was their own words, b) they’d admit their falibiliy, and 3) they’d read it.

Those who don’t want to remember history because it makes them look like idiots are doomed to deny it.

I would too, if he supported vouchers to get kids out of failing public schools.

In Florida news this week, it was reported that our graduation rate had climbed to 73%. What I didn’t hear reported was that it was thanks to JEB and holding teachers accountable and the much bemoaned FCAT. We haven’t haven’t had a democrat governor in 10 years and McKay can’t lay claim to it.

Four years from now NOTHING will have changed…DOMA, ENDA and DADT nor Prop-8…and the Dhimmicrats will be making the same excuses now, while counting the million of gay dollars they collected from their non-critical gay sheep. All the while the “leaders” of the HRC, NGLTF and others will be preaching patience and blind obeisance to their Party.

Suckers…..

I would too, if he supported vouchers to get kids out of failing public schools.

Comment by a different Dave — November 21, 2008 @ 11:11 pm – November 21, 2008

Imagine if liberal gay activists had put as much time and energy into fighting Prop 8 and the other amendments as they did in trying to get The One elected. Would that have made a difference? Perhaps. Rather difficult to say for sure but we’ll never know now because they are so wrapped up in worshipping celebrity and whoring for the Dems that they took their eyes off of what should have been their main focus. Ah well. Gee, didn’t Prop 8 get a helluva boost by robocalls featuring unfortunate comments by The One? Yet still gay libs want to tell us that He’s The Man. Yeah, okay. Tell me again why I should give a shit about HRC and the rest of them?

So yes, I do believe that openly gay Americans should be allowed to serve on subs, so long as everyone, gay or straight, is held to certain standards of conduct. But can’t we at least admit that it is a big change when you have someone on board who is attracted to the gender of the majority of the crew? I think there’s a right way and a wrong way to enact change, even appropriate changes. There is a lot to be said about the misconduct of straight people in the military, not just heterosexual misconduct but also homoerotic joking around on the part of straight guys that can cross the lines of what is appropriate. But for the military culture to change in such a way that it accepts openly gay Americans in a functional and welcoming way, I think it’s essential to at least understand the concerns of those opposed to such a change, whose concerns are a lot more sophisticated and thoughtful than mere gay-bashing and homophobia.

Viewpoints do change with time, for better, and for worse. DADT is an example of that. The current leadership in Congress (and future leadership in the White house) is poll driven, doing what’s expedient while consolidating power. Unfortunately, there is such a high percentage of gays who are ‘yellow dog democrats’ that like blacks, the Democrats don’t worry about where they go, except to smite those who wonder off the ‘reservation’ see Condi Rice, (formerly) Colin Powel, Michael Steele and JC Watts to name a few.

I was/am still honestly surprised that the first black president was a democrat, to be honest. Apparently it was too much for Bobbie “Sheets” Byrd though.

V the K, I’ll cut Pres Obama some slack on the school thing. The security logistics of having FkotUS in a public school, let alone the hellholes that are DC public schools pretty much mean rhetoric aside, that they’re going to be in private schools.

This wouldn’t surprise me given the numbers of straight men in the military as compared to gay men. Not to mention-I just don’t think too may gay men go around taking the risks involved with asking out straight men. From what I know about the gay men I know, they generally wait until they have a pretty good sense of orientation before asking a guy out.

I think the other issue is that most gay men who serve in the military aren’t the kinds of guys who want to pull out the victim card and play that role. This could change somewhat if there is no longer any prohibition against openly being gay in the military, but I really doubt the professional victims in the gay community are going to run right out to sign up for an 8 year commitment to serve.

But whether it happens or not depends entirely on whether or not it can be used to Obamas advantage. Its just as much at the bottom of his to do list as Bush’s or anyone else.

Sorry libs. You’ve been duped again. Don’t say you weren’t warned, ‘cus I know you were.

I haven’t decided yet whether the continued juvenile claims that millions of us were duped into voting for Obama comes from ignorance or arrogance.

A Differently-Abled Dave,

Its ignorance: yours and other Obama supporters — and we have the polls to prove it.

By the way, Dave, do YOU know who controls congress right now? Cus nearly 6 in 10 of your fellow Obama supporters don’t, and half of those who got it right were probably guessing.

And, hate to point out the obvious, but you’re the only one talking about Sarah Palin here.

The kind of change I am hoping for is for one of the lib trolls to say something intelligent for once. Alas, I am again disappointed.

Shorter GayPatriot: “Darn it, I wanted Obama to ignore the financial crisis facing the country and ram this through, so I could criticize him for *that* instead!

Torrentprime,

Nice to see you admit Obama is too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time. The dawn breaks.

I hope the choice is made to strengthen our country by allowing this to happen.

And there’s the rub (“HAHAHA! Rub!”). I don’t think Comrade Barack Milhouse Hussein Obama Carter has any interest in strengthening the military and/or our country.