Comments on: The word games of Prop 8 opponents http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:50:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The_Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-334046 The_Livewire Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:39:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-334046 Actually, the right to vote is a right enshrined and defined (and redefined) in the Constitution. Actually, the right to vote is a right enshrined and defined (and redefined) in the Constitution.

]]> By: Attmay http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333888 Attmay Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:50:32 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333888 <i>Your play with semantics doesn’t work. As of Election Day, the right WAS EXTANT, regardless of how long it was on the books.</i> How long does it have to be on the books for it to be a right? Is voting also not a right, but a privilege, because it is denied to anyone under 18 and/or not a citizen of this country? Your play with semantics doesn’t work. As of Election Day, the right WAS EXTANT, regardless of how long it was on the books.

How long does it have to be on the books for it to be a right?

Is voting also not a right, but a privilege, because it is denied to anyone under 18 and/or not a citizen of this country?

]]> By: The_Livewire http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333806 The_Livewire Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:12:32 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333806 So using that logic Leo, the right didn't exist at all, before 5 judges invented it, so what are you missing? I don't know how old you are, but I'm nit expecting to see anything from social (in)security, so that's the least of my concerns. So using that logic Leo, the right didn’t exist at all, before 5 judges invented it, so what are you missing?

I don’t know how old you are, but I’m nit expecting to see anything from social (in)security, so that’s the least of my concerns.

]]> By: Leonidas http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333743 Leonidas Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:36:03 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333743 Your play with semantics doesn't work. As of Election Day, the right WAS EXTANT, regardless of how long it was on the books. Nevertheless, I agree with the sentiment. I still claim that I don't care what they call it, I just want my partner to get my Social Security and whatever other benefits a widower has in the straight world. Your play with semantics doesn’t work. As of Election Day, the right WAS EXTANT, regardless of how long it was on the books.

Nevertheless, I agree with the sentiment.

I still claim that I don’t care what they call it, I just want my partner to get my Social Security and whatever other benefits a widower has in the straight world.

]]> By: Ignatius http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333718 Ignatius Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:33:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333718 They put horse meat in pet food, don't they? They put horse meat in pet food, don’t they?

]]> By: Thought Cloud For November 26, 2008 — ETC: Everyday Thoughts Collected http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333691 Thought Cloud For November 26, 2008 — ETC: Everyday Thoughts Collected Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:00:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333691 [...] The word games of Prop 8 opponents [...] [...] The word games of Prop 8 opponents [...]

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333654 John Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:08:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333654 <blockquote>That “right” only existed because the state Supreme Court said in May that it did. It was not part of the original meaning of the constitution nor could it have even been inferred given that, until about fifteen years ago (or so) no one ever thought of marriage as anything but a union between a man and a woman.</blockquote> Dan, this was relevant to argue earlier this year but is nothing more than sloganeering at this point. The facts in the case revolve around whether Prop 8 was a proper amendment or an unconstitutional revision. Anything else is completely immaterial. This case will turn on the court's findings back in May about homosexuals being a "suspect class" AND whether Prop 8 in seeking to deny what the Supremes found they had a right to can do so through amendment or has to go the revision route. Eh, if it makes you feel any better I doubt the Supremes have the gonads to stand by their May ruling and will cave. Either way is a lose-lose proposition for them given their reasoning in May and the November results. We shall see which poison they choose...

That “right” only existed because the state Supreme Court said in May that it did. It was not part of the original meaning of the constitution nor could it have even been inferred given that, until about fifteen years ago (or so) no one ever thought of marriage as anything but a union between a man and a woman.

Dan, this was relevant to argue earlier this year but is nothing more than sloganeering at this point. The facts in the case revolve around whether Prop 8 was a proper amendment or an unconstitutional revision. Anything else is completely immaterial. This case will turn on the court’s findings back in May about homosexuals being a “suspect class” AND whether Prop 8 in seeking to deny what the Supremes found they had a right to can do so through amendment or has to go the revision route.

Eh, if it makes you feel any better I doubt the Supremes have the gonads to stand by their May ruling and will cave. Either way is a lose-lose proposition for them given their reasoning in May and the November results. We shall see which poison they choose…

]]> By: Mark J. Goluskin http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/25/the-word-games-of-prop-8-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-333638 Mark J. Goluskin Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:00:20 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=7064#comment-333638 This is what is going to set back the same-sex marriage advocates for possibly a generation. Changing the words and making up things are nothing new to the left. But, the way that they are going after those that supported Prop. 8 and the "rage" is childish and making the same-sex marriage advocates look like they can not handle a responsibility like marriage in the first place. This is what is going to set back the same-sex marriage advocates for possibly a generation. Changing the words and making up things are nothing new to the left. But, the way that they are going after those that supported Prop. 8 and the “rage” is childish and making the same-sex marriage advocates look like they can not handle a responsibility like marriage in the first place.

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