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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Encountering Edgar Rice Burroughs in a Box of Old Books</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/30/bad-gay-fiction-the-absence-of-introspection/comment-page-1/#comment-336631</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Encountering Edgar Rice Burroughs in a Box of Old Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/30/bad-gay-fiction-the-absence-of-introspection/comment-page-1/#comment-335957</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now see, I liked Jeffry and Sterling was my favorite character.

Darius: Who&#039;s Martha Stewart?
Sterling: She writes picture books about gracious living. Martha says that nothing else matters if you can do a nice dried floral arrangement. I worship her.
Darius: And, um, who&#039;s Ann Miller?
Sterling: Leave this house. 


Jeffrey: Wait! You&#039;re really a priest?
Father Dan: Of course.
Jeffrey: But... I mean, aren&#039;t you supposed to be straight and celibate?
Father Dan: Maybe you didn&#039;t hear me. I&#039;m a CATHOLIC priest. Historically, that falls somewhere between chorus boy and florist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now see, I liked Jeffry and Sterling was my favorite character.</p>
<p>Darius: Who&#8217;s Martha Stewart?<br />
Sterling: She writes picture books about gracious living. Martha says that nothing else matters if you can do a nice dried floral arrangement. I worship her.<br />
Darius: And, um, who&#8217;s Ann Miller?<br />
Sterling: Leave this house. </p>
<p>Jeffrey: Wait! You&#8217;re really a priest?<br />
Father Dan: Of course.<br />
Jeffrey: But&#8230; I mean, aren&#8217;t you supposed to be straight and celibate?<br />
Father Dan: Maybe you didn&#8217;t hear me. I&#8217;m a CATHOLIC priest. Historically, that falls somewhere between chorus boy and florist.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/30/bad-gay-fiction-the-absence-of-introspection/comment-page-1/#comment-335747</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the immortal words of Peter Griffin:

&quot;Lois, I&#039;m just warning you. If this movie turns me gay, I&#039;m gonna start bringing gay guys home. And I don&#039;t mean the classy, &#039;maybe-they-are,-maybe-they&#039;re-not&#039; gay guys, I mean those big, &#039;Oh-my-God, here-they-come, floating-around, making noise&#039; gay guys. Not the &#039;fix-up-your-house&#039; gay guys.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the immortal words of Peter Griffin:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lois, I&#8217;m just warning you. If this movie turns me gay, I&#8217;m gonna start bringing gay guys home. And I don&#8217;t mean the classy, &#8216;maybe-they-are,-maybe-they&#8217;re-not&#8217; gay guys, I mean those big, &#8216;Oh-my-God, here-they-come, floating-around, making noise&#8217; gay guys. Not the &#8216;fix-up-your-house&#8217; gay guys.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/30/bad-gay-fiction-the-absence-of-introspection/comment-page-1/#comment-335707</link>
		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, that&#039;s what I heard about Jeffrey as well.

I don&#039;t hunt out fiction for the orientation of their characters, so Vanyel in Mercedes Lackey&#039;s Last Herald Mage series was a nice surprise for a gay character.  it&#039;s part of his character, but not a defining part.  There&#039;s even a nice scene where he tells a young lady who keeps throwing herself at him why it wouldn&#039;t work, and why a &#039;show marriage&#039; would be even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, that&#8217;s what I heard about Jeffrey as well.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hunt out fiction for the orientation of their characters, so Vanyel in Mercedes Lackey&#8217;s Last Herald Mage series was a nice surprise for a gay character.  it&#8217;s part of his character, but not a defining part.  There&#8217;s even a nice scene where he tells a young lady who keeps throwing herself at him why it wouldn&#8217;t work, and why a &#8217;show marriage&#8217; would be even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there was that one where Captain Picard played a flaming interior decorator. His scenes were amusing. The rest of it... complete crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there was that one where Captain Picard played a flaming interior decorator. His scenes were amusing. The rest of it&#8230; complete crap.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/30/bad-gay-fiction-the-absence-of-introspection/comment-page-1/#comment-335616</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;with commentary in the margins on the poor quality of prose, repeated use of clichÃ© or absence of development of the characters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My, how anal (no pun intended).

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gaeta and Hoshi on BSG have caught teh ghey.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whodidwhatnow? Is that JapCrapimation?

Not very familiar with gay fiction. TGCpartner likes to watch gay movies just because he thinks it lends some sort of support. We did a mini film festival, a year or so ago, with movies from Blockbuster. They were all crap. I never knew what the hell was going on, just like any &quot;indie&quot; or foreign films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>with commentary in the margins on the poor quality of prose, repeated use of clichÃ© or absence of development of the characters.</p></blockquote>
<p>My, how anal (no pun intended).</p>
<blockquote><p>Gaeta and Hoshi on BSG have caught teh ghey.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whodidwhatnow? Is that JapCrapimation?</p>
<p>Not very familiar with gay fiction. TGCpartner likes to watch gay movies just because he thinks it lends some sort of support. We did a mini film festival, a year or so ago, with movies from Blockbuster. They were all crap. I never knew what the hell was going on, just like any &#8220;indie&#8221; or foreign films.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that &quot;are they or aren&#039;t they&quot; was more intriguing character development angle than &quot;hey, look, two dudes making out&quot; ; which is why when I write sci-fi, I leave some of my characters&#039; orientations ambiguous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that &#8220;are they or aren&#8217;t they&#8221; was more intriguing character development angle than &#8220;hey, look, two dudes making out&#8221; ; which is why when I write sci-fi, I leave some of my characters&#8217; orientations ambiguous.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the bright side: One measurement of gay acceptance is that the contributions to our cultural ornaments made by gays can be greeted with yawns.  Gays have arrived when gay-themed art is honestly assessed as just as bad as other bad art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the bright side: One measurement of gay acceptance is that the contributions to our cultural ornaments made by gays can be greeted with yawns.  Gays have arrived when gay-themed art is honestly assessed as just as bad as other bad art.</p>
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		<title>By: The Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my first thought, V the K, it almost seemed a &#039;Dumbledore&#039; moment to me, &quot;well the last shooting is in the can, why not toss this in as well?&#039;

That said, I read somewhere that it completed the relationship dynamic you had the Cain/Gina romance in Razor* (no knowing how legit that was on Gina&#039;s part, since she was a six) You had the three way Baltar, Caprica, Three relationship, and of course the various hetro relationships.

Amusingly the cross species relationship (didn&#039;t someone mention sex with robots) is the most stable, though I think Tyrol should have confided in Callie.  I&#039;m still mad she was killed.

*Yes, it&#039;s the &#039;evil l-e-s-b-i-a-n&#039; cliche.  I didn&#039;t write it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my first thought, V the K, it almost seemed a &#8216;Dumbledore&#8217; moment to me, &#8220;well the last shooting is in the can, why not toss this in as well?&#8217;</p>
<p>That said, I read somewhere that it completed the relationship dynamic you had the Cain/Gina romance in Razor* (no knowing how legit that was on Gina&#8217;s part, since she was a six) You had the three way Baltar, Caprica, Three relationship, and of course the various hetro relationships.</p>
<p>Amusingly the cross species relationship (didn&#8217;t someone mention sex with robots) is the most stable, though I think Tyrol should have confided in Callie.  I&#8217;m still mad she was killed.</p>
<p>*Yes, it&#8217;s the &#8216;evil l-e-s-b-i-a-n&#8217; cliche.  I didn&#8217;t write it.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaeta and Hoshi on BSG have caught teh ghey. Doesn&#039;t that seem a bit gratuitous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaeta and Hoshi on BSG have caught teh ghey. Doesn&#8217;t that seem a bit gratuitous?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just gay fiction.  Much of the non-fiction literature about gay life and gay identity is that way, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just gay fiction.  Much of the non-fiction literature about gay life and gay identity is that way, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably don&#039;t see it as an error in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably don&#8217;t see it as an error in the first place.</p>
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