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		<title>By: Rocket</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-339169</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is common ground under the Reagan Doctrine that can be easily developed.

Bush started off on the right foot with &quot;compassionate conservative&quot; but then let it drift away. Use the words of Micah that each of us must to paraphrase Micah&#039;s words&quot; do justice, show mercy, help the least amongst us and walk humbly with thy God&quot;.

In keeping with that theme (my comments got sent several days ago to the blog spam folder in hell), I will try to rephrase what I had said back then.

The commonality as has been said here by other comments is rather then emphasize the religion emphasize the values that are the underpinnings and principles  of religion and faith as seen in the words of Micah.

Thus, we can all work on community based solutions in private enterprise such as support for ways to battle poverty, hunger, housing needs, etc.

Affirm that whether pro life or pro choice that we are for raising healthy children and families. 

The old saying teach a person to fish and they can feed themselves for a life time instead of government hand outs.

Go back to the Reagan/Goldwater values of getting government off our backs and out of private lives. 

Emphasize fiscal conservatism, strong national defense and homeland security. 

Emphasize that the solution to fiscal messes isn&#039;t government spending but letting Americans make their own decisions and letting the free market that made us the great country we are be free to do what it does best....end the socialism we are finding ourselves in.

Recognize that we as Gay people share the same values of family, love, freedom as everyone else. Stick to the common values we all share. 

It is as basic every day common sense thinking as you get. Then make sure we do just that. 

Government that is fiscally lean and stays out the way of our private lives and leaves its people alone to do what we do best in energizing our own skills and resources in a free market, with energy independence,a strong national defense and stand up for freedom at home and abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is common ground under the Reagan Doctrine that can be easily developed.</p>
<p>Bush started off on the right foot with &#8220;compassionate conservative&#8221; but then let it drift away. Use the words of Micah that each of us must to paraphrase Micah&#8217;s words&#8221; do justice, show mercy, help the least amongst us and walk humbly with thy God&#8221;.</p>
<p>In keeping with that theme (my comments got sent several days ago to the blog spam folder in hell), I will try to rephrase what I had said back then.</p>
<p>The commonality as has been said here by other comments is rather then emphasize the religion emphasize the values that are the underpinnings and principles  of religion and faith as seen in the words of Micah.</p>
<p>Thus, we can all work on community based solutions in private enterprise such as support for ways to battle poverty, hunger, housing needs, etc.</p>
<p>Affirm that whether pro life or pro choice that we are for raising healthy children and families. </p>
<p>The old saying teach a person to fish and they can feed themselves for a life time instead of government hand outs.</p>
<p>Go back to the Reagan/Goldwater values of getting government off our backs and out of private lives. </p>
<p>Emphasize fiscal conservatism, strong national defense and homeland security. </p>
<p>Emphasize that the solution to fiscal messes isn&#8217;t government spending but letting Americans make their own decisions and letting the free market that made us the great country we are be free to do what it does best&#8230;.end the socialism we are finding ourselves in.</p>
<p>Recognize that we as Gay people share the same values of family, love, freedom as everyone else. Stick to the common values we all share. </p>
<p>It is as basic every day common sense thinking as you get. Then make sure we do just that. </p>
<p>Government that is fiscally lean and stays out the way of our private lives and leaves its people alone to do what we do best in energizing our own skills and resources in a free market, with energy independence,a strong national defense and stand up for freedom at home and abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you post Nate Silver&#039;s interview with the man who did this so called study just to be fair?</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-337618</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave my yearly donation to gaypatriot instead of NPR for this very reason.  

Thank you for being so informative guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave my yearly donation to gaypatriot instead of NPR for this very reason.  </p>
<p>Thank you for being so informative guys!</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-336925</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Perhaps at #18, your first clear resort to straw-man tactics.  Straw-man tactics being an automatic declaration of bankruptcy, for he who uses them.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Perhaps at #18, your first clear resort to straw-man tactics.  Straw-man tactics being an automatic declaration of bankruptcy, for he who uses them.)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-336921</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, Iggy.  You&#039;ve finally understood something correctly: You lost the argument, a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, Iggy.  You&#8217;ve finally understood something correctly: You lost the argument, a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-336916</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Professor Quibbles-Bore, youâ€™ve devolved into total inanity...&lt;/i&gt;

Translation:  I&#039;ve lost this argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Professor Quibbles-Bore, youâ€™ve devolved into total inanity&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Translation:  I&#8217;ve lost this argument.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-336905</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this would be the page 1 link:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&amp;w=MA==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this would be the page 1 link:<br />
<a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&#038;w=MA=" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&#038;w=MA=</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-2/#comment-336904</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But merely because [serving gays is now eHarmony&#039;s] legally enforceable *job* to do so doesnâ€™t make it their moral *job*...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Professor Quibbles-Bore, you&#039;ve devolved into total inanity: answering inverted arguments that I do not believe, and never made, suggested, or even hinted at in the slightest way, in this thread.&lt;blockquote&gt;[CBS] still has no moral *job* to act on behalf of my political views...&lt;/blockquote&gt;As I affirmed explicitly (and as only you would need to have me affirm) up at  #23.  Enough of you.  Now for something better, directed at others.  Victor Davis Hansen has a terrific article today, touching on more of the media&#039;s failures to educate the electorate: 

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&amp;w=Mg==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But merely because [serving gays is now eHarmony's] legally enforceable *job* to do so doesnâ€™t make it their moral *job*&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Professor Quibbles-Bore, you&#8217;ve devolved into total inanity: answering inverted arguments that I do not believe, and never made, suggested, or even hinted at in the slightest way, in this thread.<br />
<blockquote>[CBS] still has no moral *job* to act on behalf of my political views&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>As I affirmed explicitly (and as only you would need to have me affirm) up at  #23.  Enough of you.  Now for something better, directed at others.  Victor Davis Hansen has a terrific article today, touching on more of the media&#8217;s failures to educate the electorate: </p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&#038;w=Mg=" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjY4MzYyNzM3ZmU5NjBkOTExMDkzOTYyYTRmMDRkNzg=&#038;w=Mg=</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336848</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if my previous, similar post appears -- my posts are getting filtered and I had to rewrite the above.  I should have copied to a .txt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if my previous, similar post appears &#8212; my posts are getting filtered and I had to rewrite the above.  I should have copied to a .txt.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatius</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336847</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignatius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A reasonable person would grasp that the word â€œjobâ€ more broadly means â€œproper functionâ€, or â€œpurposeâ€, or â€œtaskâ€, or â€œprofessionâ€, or â€œwhat someone ought to be doing, if their remuneration is to be morally deservedâ€. &lt;/i&gt;

The word &#039;job&#039; can have either a broad or specific definition.  One can argue that the media&#039;s purpose is to inform objectively and without bias in order that its profits be morally deserved, but it&#039;s ultimately a meaningless argument because such standards aren&#039;t enforceable, i.e. by the specific definition.  I think that&#039;s pretty reasonable because I value a free biased press over an unfree biased press.

Prior to the judge&#039;s ruling in its recent case, eHarmony had no *job* -- moral or otherwise, general or specific -- to present information about available homosexual singles or offer any such services to them.  Since the ruling, eHarmony is legally obligated to follow the law by providing their services to homosexuals, a ruling I adamantly oppose.  But merely because it is their legally enforceable *job* to do so doesn&#039;t make it their moral *job*, purpose, task, profession, etc. to extend these services to homos other than the morality of following the letter of the law.  

Likewise, a media conglomerate such as CBS has no moral *job*, responsibility, purpose, task, profession, etc. to present any particular viewpoint.  One may insist they do and indeed CBS might declare they have such a responsibility, mission, etc. and they probably insist they fulfill it.  (CBS likely doesn&#039;t see itself as biased.)  Even in the unlikely event it were to recognize or admit what I think is its bias, it still has no moral *job* to act on behalf of my political views or the views of Communist Wiccans, Neo-Nazis, Zionists, Alaskan Secessionists, or any other group large or small.  

Bias in the press is the mother&#039;s milk of conservative discourse and this is because there is this childish sense of entitlement to fairness.  Here&#039;s my reaction to such complaints:

1. No sh*t, Sherlock.
2. You can do something healthy like create an alternative such as what Bruce has done; or, you can do something unhealthy like become beside oneself with anger such as what Bruce has done.  (Or you can do both, such as what Bruce has done.)

I wish the mainstream media were more fair to my viewpoints.  But such wishing is pointless, as is responding with moral indignation regarding some false concept of morality.  Besides, this latest election is something of an anomaly because issues, viewpoints, ideas, etc. were trumped by race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A reasonable person would grasp that the word â€œjobâ€ more broadly means â€œproper functionâ€, or â€œpurposeâ€, or â€œtaskâ€, or â€œprofessionâ€, or â€œwhat someone ought to be doing, if their remuneration is to be morally deservedâ€. </i></p>
<p>The word &#8216;job&#8217; can have either a broad or specific definition.  One can argue that the media&#8217;s purpose is to inform objectively and without bias in order that its profits be morally deserved, but it&#8217;s ultimately a meaningless argument because such standards aren&#8217;t enforceable, i.e. by the specific definition.  I think that&#8217;s pretty reasonable because I value a free biased press over an unfree biased press.</p>
<p>Prior to the judge&#8217;s ruling in its recent case, eHarmony had no *job* &#8212; moral or otherwise, general or specific &#8212; to present information about available homosexual singles or offer any such services to them.  Since the ruling, eHarmony is legally obligated to follow the law by providing their services to homosexuals, a ruling I adamantly oppose.  But merely because it is their legally enforceable *job* to do so doesn&#8217;t make it their moral *job*, purpose, task, profession, etc. to extend these services to homos other than the morality of following the letter of the law.  </p>
<p>Likewise, a media conglomerate such as CBS has no moral *job*, responsibility, purpose, task, profession, etc. to present any particular viewpoint.  One may insist they do and indeed CBS might declare they have such a responsibility, mission, etc. and they probably insist they fulfill it.  (CBS likely doesn&#8217;t see itself as biased.)  Even in the unlikely event it were to recognize or admit what I think is its bias, it still has no moral *job* to act on behalf of my political views or the views of Communist Wiccans, Neo-Nazis, Zionists, Alaskan Secessionists, or any other group large or small.  </p>
<p>Bias in the press is the mother&#8217;s milk of conservative discourse and this is because there is this childish sense of entitlement to fairness.  Here&#8217;s my reaction to such complaints:</p>
<p>1. No sh*t, Sherlock.<br />
2. You can do something healthy like create an alternative such as what Bruce has done; or, you can do something unhealthy like become beside oneself with anger such as what Bruce has done.  (Or you can do both, such as what Bruce has done.)</p>
<p>I wish the mainstream media were more fair to my viewpoints.  But such wishing is pointless, as is responding with moral indignation regarding some false concept of morality.  Besides, this latest election is something of an anomaly because issues, viewpoints, ideas, etc. were trumped by race.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In #39 I said:&lt;blockquote&gt;The fact is, the Democrats send ACORN after these dolts. They used to rely on dead people. Now they rely on brain dead people and small caches of absentee ballots they find here and there during the recounts.&lt;/blockquote&gt; In #40, little letter people minion gillie positied:&lt;blockquote&gt;Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks,&lt;/blockquote&gt;I suspect that little letter people minion gillie associates ACORN with inner city black folks. Ergo, little letter people minion gillie pastes one on me for &quot;having fun ranting at inner city black folk.&quot;

Now just to be clear, ACORN is largely active in inner cities by design. They do not fan out through the burbs. By definition, the &quot;inner city&quot; is not a term used in promoting real estate, advertising hotel accommodations, seeking patrons for sidewalk cafes, or being a place to stroll the parks and leave your kids for day care.

So, after ACORN gets out the vote, what do the inner city people get for their trouble? When all is said and done, it is far cheaper to buy a vote with cigarettes, booze and a ride than it is to buy time on television to try to educate discerning voters. After all, when your vote is only worth a smoke or two you can be bought on the cheap forever.

Like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, ACORN is just another poverty pimping, shake down enterprise backed by the threat of rent-a-mob reaction. As I recall, riots were promised if Obama was not elected.

I anxiously await the profound clarification of my picture of ACORN by little letter people minion gillie. And while he is at it, perhaps little letter people minion gillie can explain why people with wit and drive get out of the inner city and never go back. (I am not including the criminals who prey on the residents of the inner city.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In #39 I said:<br />
<blockquote>The fact is, the Democrats send ACORN after these dolts. They used to rely on dead people. Now they rely on brain dead people and small caches of absentee ballots they find here and there during the recounts.</p></blockquote>
<p> In #40, little letter people minion gillie positied:<br />
<blockquote>Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks,</p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect that little letter people minion gillie associates ACORN with inner city black folks. Ergo, little letter people minion gillie pastes one on me for &#8220;having fun ranting at inner city black folk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now just to be clear, ACORN is largely active in inner cities by design. They do not fan out through the burbs. By definition, the &#8220;inner city&#8221; is not a term used in promoting real estate, advertising hotel accommodations, seeking patrons for sidewalk cafes, or being a place to stroll the parks and leave your kids for day care.</p>
<p>So, after ACORN gets out the vote, what do the inner city people get for their trouble? When all is said and done, it is far cheaper to buy a vote with cigarettes, booze and a ride than it is to buy time on television to try to educate discerning voters. After all, when your vote is only worth a smoke or two you can be bought on the cheap forever.</p>
<p>Like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, ACORN is just another poverty pimping, shake down enterprise backed by the threat of rent-a-mob reaction. As I recall, riots were promised if Obama was not elected.</p>
<p>I anxiously await the profound clarification of my picture of ACORN by little letter people minion gillie. And while he is at it, perhaps little letter people minion gillie can explain why people with wit and drive get out of the inner city and never go back. (I am not including the criminals who prey on the residents of the inner city.)</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, I donâ€™t know, I think they know they arenâ€™t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

C&#039;mon AE! Why else would CNN want to keep an office in Hussein&#039;s Iraq but to show Iraqi kids flying kites where the lemonade springs and the bluebird sings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh, I donâ€™t know, I think they know they arenâ€™t.</p></blockquote>
<p>C&#8217;mon AE! Why else would CNN want to keep an office in Hussein&#8217;s Iraq but to show Iraqi kids flying kites where the lemonade springs and the bluebird sings?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336693</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€™bout a month ago, AE had one that was twice as bad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;THAT was art! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€™bout a month ago, AE had one that was twice as bad.</p></blockquote>
<p>THAT was art! <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336690</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s a fair guess that most in the media believe they are serving the public interest&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh, I don&#039;t know, I think they know they aren&#039;t. I will never forget Mark Halperin, former ABC News political director (famous for instructing his reporters and producers to favor Kerry in their reporting of the 2004 campaign), being interviewed on talk radio, admitting the problem of media bias, was asked by a caller if, since he acknowledged media bias was a problem, why didn&#039;t he just hire more conservatives in his newsroom. &quot;Oh no!&quot; he immediately responded,&quot;I don&#039;t think &lt;b&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; the answer!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s a fair guess that most in the media believe they are serving the public interest</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t know, I think they know they aren&#8217;t. I will never forget Mark Halperin, former ABC News political director (famous for instructing his reporters and producers to favor Kerry in their reporting of the 2004 campaign), being interviewed on talk radio, admitting the problem of media bias, was asked by a caller if, since he acknowledged media bias was a problem, why didn&#8217;t he just hire more conservatives in his newsroom. &#8220;Oh no!&#8221; he immediately responded,&#8221;I don&#8217;t think <b>that&#8217;s</b> the answer!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336687</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;indeed, all 50 million plus people were just like those held up as examples here. grow up. Itâ€™s the same â€œignorant electorateâ€ that put every single president in since day one. You lost, it happens to all of us. Stop whining and move on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually, A Differently Abled Dave (boy isnt that appropriate given these poll results), as the poll results affirm, the ignorant part of the electorate votes for YOUR candidates. The people who vote for our candidates are far better informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>indeed, all 50 million plus people were just like those held up as examples here. grow up. Itâ€™s the same â€œignorant electorateâ€ that put every single president in since day one. You lost, it happens to all of us. Stop whining and move on.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, A Differently Abled Dave (boy isnt that appropriate given these poll results), as the poll results affirm, the ignorant part of the electorate votes for YOUR candidates. The people who vote for our candidates are far better informed.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336670</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How did you do that? I have never seen such blockquoting!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Forgot to close one somewhere. Shoulda seen it. &#039;bout a month ago, AE had one that was twice as bad.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thus, his participation in this project is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that itâ€™s been swallowed here hook, line and sinker.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I wish like hell you would demonstrate how this is false instead of trying to convince us by squealing &quot;Zogby Sucks&quot; like Ned Beatty. 

Shove that in your ass and smoke it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Such as....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How did you do that? I have never seen such blockquoting!</p></blockquote>
<p>Forgot to close one somewhere. Shoulda seen it. &#8217;bout a month ago, AE had one that was twice as bad.</p>
<blockquote><p>Thus, his participation in this project is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that itâ€™s been swallowed here hook, line and sinker.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I wish like hell you would demonstrate how this is false instead of trying to convince us by squealing &#8220;Zogby Sucks&#8221; like Ned Beatty. </p>
<p>Shove that in your ass and smoke it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks,</p></blockquote>
<p>Such as&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336663</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To put it more simply: Educating the electorate on current events and politicians is certainly the *task* or *function* of the media.  In other words: their *job*.  And, as free human beings, they are free to do their job badly.  And they have been doing their job badly.  That has been my plain meaning all along, and I daresay no one has had trouble understanding it - except Professor Quibbles here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it more simply: Educating the electorate on current events and politicians is certainly the *task* or *function* of the media.  In other words: their *job*.  And, as free human beings, they are free to do their job badly.  And they have been doing their job badly.  That has been my plain meaning all along, and I daresay no one has had trouble understanding it &#8211; except Professor Quibbles here.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336617</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A *job* implies contractual obligations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nope.  It&#039;s true that some many jobs today are defined with contractual obligations.  But widespread contractual obligations in employment are a modern construct.  Jobs existed without them, for millennia.

A reasonable person would grasp that the word &quot;job&quot; more broadly means &quot;proper function&quot;, or &quot;purpose&quot;, or &quot;task&quot;, or &quot;profession&quot;, or &quot;what someone ought to be doing, if their remuneration is to be morally deserved&quot;.  Especially in context of what I wrote, as I had explicitly used the word *in contradistinction* to the word &quot;obligation&quot;.  But keep digging your hole, Quibbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A *job* implies contractual obligations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.  It&#8217;s true that some many jobs today are defined with contractual obligations.  But widespread contractual obligations in employment are a modern construct.  Jobs existed without them, for millennia.</p>
<p>A reasonable person would grasp that the word &#8220;job&#8221; more broadly means &#8220;proper function&#8221;, or &#8220;purpose&#8221;, or &#8220;task&#8221;, or &#8220;profession&#8221;, or &#8220;what someone ought to be doing, if their remuneration is to be morally deserved&#8221;.  Especially in context of what I wrote, as I had explicitly used the word *in contradistinction* to the word &#8220;obligation&#8221;.  But keep digging your hole, Quibbles.</p>
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		<title>By: gille</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336567</link>
		<dc:creator>gille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks, I would suggest the following questions to McCain supporters:
Is Obama a Muslim?
Is Obama the brother to Osama?
Is Obama a citizen?
Is Obama a member of the communist party?
Is Obama a terrorist?
Is Obama an Arab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since many of your folks are having fun ranting at inner city black folks, I would suggest the following questions to McCain supporters:<br />
Is Obama a Muslim?<br />
Is Obama the brother to Osama?<br />
Is Obama a citizen?<br />
Is Obama a member of the communist party?<br />
Is Obama a terrorist?<br />
Is Obama an Arab?</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/12/03/media-malpractice-led-to-ignorant-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-336526</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up with the blather about polls and Zogby? The &quot;Jaywalking&quot; bozos that Leno has no trouble finding and the Harlem pea-brains Howard Stern&#039;s people interviewed and the poor souls in the video all show a fact about Democrats.

The fact is, the Democrats send ACORN after these dolts. They used to rely on dead people. Now they rely on brain dead people and small caches of absentee ballots they find here and there during the recounts. 

Show me the tapes of Obama being specific on the issues during the primaries. Lets review all the town hall meetings he had with McCain where his specific programs made McCain&#039;s platitude campaign look weak.

Show me the detailed discussion of the pros and cons of Obama&#039;s program proposals in the MSM. 

Is the MSM supposed to educate? Duh! Double Duh! Naw, they are supposed entertain and carry the water for their favorites.

I read about Mumbai to learn (become educated) what happened. I tried to read about Saul Alinsky, but somehow the MSM never discovered him. In ethics, a purposeful omission is equivalent to an intentional lie. So, by not exploring Alinsky, the MSM participated in a cover-up. That is the antithesis of education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with the blather about polls and Zogby? The &#8220;Jaywalking&#8221; bozos that Leno has no trouble finding and the Harlem pea-brains Howard Stern&#8217;s people interviewed and the poor souls in the video all show a fact about Democrats.</p>
<p>The fact is, the Democrats send ACORN after these dolts. They used to rely on dead people. Now they rely on brain dead people and small caches of absentee ballots they find here and there during the recounts. </p>
<p>Show me the tapes of Obama being specific on the issues during the primaries. Lets review all the town hall meetings he had with McCain where his specific programs made McCain&#8217;s platitude campaign look weak.</p>
<p>Show me the detailed discussion of the pros and cons of Obama&#8217;s program proposals in the MSM. </p>
<p>Is the MSM supposed to educate? Duh! Double Duh! Naw, they are supposed entertain and carry the water for their favorites.</p>
<p>I read about Mumbai to learn (become educated) what happened. I tried to read about Saul Alinsky, but somehow the MSM never discovered him. In ethics, a purposeful omission is equivalent to an intentional lie. So, by not exploring Alinsky, the MSM participated in a cover-up. That is the antithesis of education.</p>
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