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More Evidence of Obama’s Good Luck (or Good Timing)

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 11:58 am - December 9, 2008.
Filed under: 2008 Presidential Politics, Democratic Scandals, Dishonest Democrats

Would things have been different had this happened before November 4?

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  1. Please. The wiretaps show that Blajo said “F**k Obama” because the Obama team refused to play ball. Trying to slime Obama like this is really sad.

    And, remember, the previous Illinois governor, George Ryan, a Republican, is behind bars along with a lot of other Illinois Republicans.

    Comment by blake — December 9, 2008 @ 1:03 pm - December 9, 2008

  2. I suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    There is a reason all of these characters were drawn “TOWARD” Barrack Obama.

    jeb

    Comment by Jeb — December 9, 2008 @ 1:16 pm - December 9, 2008

  3. Mr. Blag on Obama preference of Candidate 1 :

    “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”…

    In other words, Obama wouldn’t give Mr. Blag any money or favors for his preferred candidate. If this pans out, Obama may have looked even better, so I don’t think it would have made a difference.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 9, 2008 @ 1:40 pm - December 9, 2008

  4. spam filter

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 9, 2008 @ 1:40 pm - December 9, 2008

  5. “Would things have been different had this happened before November 4?”

    Nope. It wouldn’t have mattered if Obama was caught trying to sell HIS OWN SEAT in the Senate. No matter how conclusive the evidence, his army of dimwitted, zombified supporters would have called it a smear or an evil Republican conspiracy and voted for him anyway. I sincerely believe that even if he had spent election day behind bars, he would have won the election. That’s how completely retarded his congregation is (and yes, it IS a congregation).

    Comment by Sean A — December 9, 2008 @ 1:46 pm - December 9, 2008

  6. “Praise the Lord…and pass the collection plate, brother. …Can I hear an Amem?”

    A man’s friend tell you a lot about a man’s character. And the followers of the Obama bin Biden forget he’s a Chicago politician, not another Man from Springfield.

    - Rezko,
    - Wright,
    - Blagoevick,
    - Ayers.

    It’s the Chicago Way…

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — December 9, 2008 @ 2:11 pm - December 9, 2008

  7. Democrat governor of Ill …..the corruption stinks to high heaven. Rotten, same ole same ole for the Dems. After Democrat Rep Jefferson lost his Congressional seat, I thought the Dem party was maybe wising up. No way, you listen to the tapes of Democrat governor Blog of Ill and you hear the arrogance and corruption.Rotten to the core. How much money is in the pipeline for Hillary’s seat in the corrupt NY Governors office? Let’s see if MSNBC does another special on Obamas’ favorite color and favorite kind of dog. Where are all the investigative journalists?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 9, 2008 @ 2:21 pm - December 9, 2008

  8. On the one hand I agree with Sean, on the other hand I wonder, maybe it would have made a difference.
    Meanwhile, a little more schadenfruede, The Chicago Tribune (which owns our lovely rag here, the LA Times) has filed chapter 11, the NYT has to mortgage it’s headquarters in New York.

    Little Louisiana is showing the way, cold cash Jeffereson is thrown out by an unknown Vietnamese American with an R next to his name.

    One should never give up hope!!!

    Comment by Leah — December 9, 2008 @ 3:12 pm - December 9, 2008

  9. spam filter!

    Comment by Leah — December 9, 2008 @ 3:12 pm - December 9, 2008

  10. This is just an appetizer compared with the feast of corruption to come out of Chairman Zero’s government, coupled with an unchecked Democrat congress that can’t even police its own (*cough* Charlie Rangel *cough*).

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2008 @ 3:35 pm - December 9, 2008

  11. Rangels defense is “whoa, what, where, I didn’t know…..whoa, not me, why pick on me ?” You’d end up with a shorter list if you listed the Democrat elected officials who weren’t crooks at this point. Shouldn’t the President elect come forward and give us his plan for clean government or is he too afraid to become an SNL skit? Where are the investigative ‘journalists”?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 9, 2008 @ 4:23 pm - December 9, 2008

  12. Where are the investigative ‘journalists”?

    Busy lighting the candles around their Obama shrines.

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2008 @ 4:55 pm - December 9, 2008

  13. I wonder how much juicy information he knows and whether it buys him a light sentence complete with an apology tour and community service served with ACORN, after which he’d be ripe for the presidency.

    I wonder if some of the liberals I know who’ve been claiming a permanent liberal majority has been reached are right. No doubt they’d shrug at Blago and say “Well, at least he’s not a Republican.”

    Comment by Ignatius — December 9, 2008 @ 4:58 pm - December 9, 2008

  14. Blake, attempt to slime Obama? Not really. More that had this story broken before November 4, it would have reminded voters of the corrupt world of Chicago politics in which Obama has often swum and his failure to do anything to stand up to the shady figures who helped launch his political career.

    It would have provided further evidence that his claim to be a new kind of politician was just that, a claim. And it might have swung a few votes McCain’s way, not enough to decide the election perhaps, but enough to make a difference in a state or two.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — December 9, 2008 @ 5:04 pm - December 9, 2008

  15. The O-Bama-Rama merry-go-round has all manner of sundry trolls, pigs, chameleons, two faced impostors, spinners and charlatans. Round and round it goes tossing brass rings to loyal groupies and playing hopenchange music and selling deficit raffle tickets.

    The mighty voice of the popular electorate has spoken. We can only wait to see if the O-Bama-Rama merry-go-round can keep the masses mesmerized. Right now, the Obamanauts still believe that if any man can the candy man can. He has only 40 days more of voting present. Then he has to put on his Pied Piper shoes and hat and lead the congressional love-fest parade to the Sylvan fields of state socialism. Nationalizing The Big Three with be the opening shot of Obama “pragmatism.”

    Will the adoring MSM and groupies turn on him? Not while he remains black and articulate and (relatively) clean. (Articulate means not talking uggabuggayoyo. It does not mean being incisive.) The One is too big to fail. The MSM won’t allow it. The One is due for permanent MSM bail out.

    The biggest question is whether Bill Ayres and Reverend Wright can reach the level of MSM house pundit. Perhaps Reverend wright could replace Katie Couric. I would watch him for sure.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 9, 2008 @ 5:26 pm - December 9, 2008

  16. If this had been George W. Bush and Rick Perry in The Snob/The Blab’s roles, you can bet the MSM would be on this issue faster that a tingle running up Chris Matthews’ leg.

    Also – why are all the MSM outlets save Fox News not ID’ing this POS as a Democrat? And why, in the follow-up story of Sen. Larry Craig, do they prominently name him as a Republican?

    Bias? What liberal media bias?

    (Shaking head, reaching for drink)

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — December 9, 2008 @ 5:34 pm - December 9, 2008

  17. GPW, as Ace points out, what the media will do is try to isolate Blagojevich from the Democrat party and from Obama. They will make this a story of one man’s corruption…as though Blago lived alone on an island somewhere. If he were a Republican, the media would dig through every connection he ever had, and put the story into the “context” of other Republican scandals.

    As it is, I will be very surprised if the media doesn’t try to compare this to Tasergate and smear Sarah Palin with it.

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2008 @ 5:35 pm - December 9, 2008

  18. If Blagovich, in fact, tried to sell the Senate seat as alleged, I hope they throw the book at him. And to anyone who actually said they would offer money to him. It doesn’t appear that Obama had anything to do with this. In fact, he is not part of the process for replacing him. However, if he did, then get the impeachment proceedings going.

    In other words, Obama wouldn’t give Mr. Blag any money or favors for his preferred candidate. If this pans out, Obama may have looked even better, so I don’t think it would have made a difference.

    I don’t know, Sonicfrog. If Blag was expecting Obama to give him money or favors for his preferred candidate and Obama knew this, he should have immediately called the FBI or the appropriate authority to investigate the crime. If not, this is also arguably an impeachable offense in my book.

    Comment by Pat — December 9, 2008 @ 5:55 pm - December 9, 2008

  19. Obama Advised Blagojevich On His Victorious Gubernatorial Run. “That year, [Obama] gained his first high-level experience in a statewide campaign when he advised the victorious gubernatorial candidate Rod Blagojevich, another politician with a funny name and a message of reform.” (Ryan Lizza, “Making It,” The New Yorker, 7/21/08)

    Obama: “If the governor asks me to work on his behalf, I’ll be happy to do it.” (John Patterson, “Senator Says He’s Still Willing To Help Blagojevich Despite Hiring Concerns,” Chicago Daily Herald, 7/27/06)

    Obama: “We’ve got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois.” (Deanna Bellandi, “Illinois Democrats Talk Unity But Don’t Show It,” The Associated Press, 8/16/06)

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2008 @ 6:14 pm - December 9, 2008

  20. I don’t know, Sonicfrog. If Blag was expecting Obama to give him money or favors for his preferred candidate and Obama knew this, he should have immediately called the FBI or the appropriate authority to investigate the crime.

    We don’t know that he didn’t. We don’t yet know what was said between Obama, Mr. Blag, or their underlings. Look, we have far too few details and no real timeline of events yet, so I think it’s wise to hold off on the accusation, lest we end up looking like the BDS infected liberals who screamed “corruption” every time President Bush even sneezed.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 9, 2008 @ 6:15 pm - December 9, 2008

  21. The Spam filter ate my post of Obama quotes supporting Blago.

    Comment by V the K — December 9, 2008 @ 6:32 pm - December 9, 2008

  22. Here is where Obama is looking bad to me. He claimed that he had never spoken to Blag about his replacement in the Senate. Some one dug up a quote from Axlerod from a few weeks ago where he stated the two did meet to talk about the senator from Ill.

    Now, Axlerod is being thrown under the bus, he misspoke, must have his info wrong.

    So it’s not is Obama directly tied to Blag. It’s more of a question of at what point does he take any responsibility????

    Comment by Leah — December 9, 2008 @ 7:46 pm - December 9, 2008

  23. This present political train wreck unfolding in Illinois would have only made some sort of difference before Nov 4 if McCain had had the wit and fortitude not to mention common political sense to actually comment upon it and use it.

    In view of McCain’s demonstrative failure to illuminate Obama for what he was and is, this news from Illinois would have made no difference to the election if it had happened before the 4th.

    If the Republican party cannot find the ability actually to use episodes like this (or Rangel’s corrupt manipulation of the very tax codes he supposedly oversees or any number of other acts of wrongdoing the Democrats seem to pull off on an all too common basis), to show where the real party of corruption lies then the party is never going to reassert itself.

    Comment by Not Always Right — December 9, 2008 @ 7:49 pm - December 9, 2008

  24. Obama said he wasn’t in communication with the Governor or his office. That is less than believable. If he didn’t play ball, he should have just been straight forward. Not a good move on his part. I didn’t vote for him, but if he was being honest in this instance, I’d assume he not get in trouble, but with that statement, I’m not so sure. :-(

    Comment by Timothy — December 9, 2008 @ 9:15 pm - December 9, 2008

  25. #23 I love how the MSM Tuesday nite was saying the scandal isn’t hitting Obama and we believe his denials. How bout some reporting and journalists digging for fresh facts. Already there is the inconsistency between Obama and his top aid about conversations between the President elect Democrat Obama and Democrat governor, crook, of Illinois. And by the way, what are the odds that Obama is the only one coming out of the Chicago machine that isn’t a slimey crook?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 9, 2008 @ 11:28 pm - December 9, 2008

  26. I was amazed how most of the cable shows tuesday nite talked about this scandal in a lite hearted way. Laughing about Blogoviches comic ineptituded. I remember the Larry Craig and Mark Foley “scandals” the attitude of the MSM ever night was so dire, the republic was at stake. Here a Senate seat is up for sale possibly with the knowledge of the next President and every one is yucking it up. Oh of course Obama had no knowledge. Does Michelle and Barack have any friends of high moral character?

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 9, 2008 @ 11:36 pm - December 9, 2008

  27. I made the Chicago Politics plea long ago. Now Chicago is in DC. :-(

    Comment by Timothy — December 9, 2008 @ 11:42 pm - December 9, 2008

  28. Trying to slime Obama like this is really sad.

    I’m of the opinion that one doesn’t have to. Making up military documents at Kinkos and calling them “fake but accurate” is really sad. Mass hysteria because a CIA desk pilot had their “cover” blown is really sad. Trying Marines for murder in the court of public opinion, really sad. Pissing and moaning about how our prisoners are treating and not caring a tinker’s cuss for how they treat theirs is downright pathetic. Calling Republicans the “culture of corruption” hoping like hell nobody notices your own is really sad. Comandeering rescue vehicles after a disaster to rescue your bribe money is really sad.

    Shall I go on?

    Here a Senate seat is up for sale possibly with the knowledge of the next President and every one is yucking it up.

    That’s because he now qualifies for a nomination from the DNC and fawning douchebags like blake will cream their shorts.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 10, 2008 @ 12:58 am - December 10, 2008

  29. Please. The wiretaps show that Blajo said “F**k Obama” because the Obama team refused to play ball. Trying to slime Obama like this is really sad.

    Sorry Blake, you have unwittingly condemned Obama by admitting Blajovevitch (did I get that name right? too lazy to look it up) propositioned Obama and Obama did NOTHING. When a politician proposes something illegal to Obama, his obligation is not to do nothing, it is to turn the politician in — anything less is corruption.

    Which explains why Obama was caught lying straight out of the gate, saying he hadnt been in contact with Blagovevitch about the seat when his campaign manager said on the record a few weeks previously that he had.

    But why shouldnt Blagovevitch think he should get a cooshy high paid job for his wife out of the deal when Obama got his wife a $200,000 raise for being elected, and Obama paid hundreds of thousands LESS than market value for his mansion when his good friend, convicted felon Tony Rezko paid exactly the same amount OVER the market value for his mansion next door.

    I f**king love it! Its gonna be the shortest presidency in history! And the irony is so rich! Libtards have been calling for Bush’s impeachment over a perfectly lawful policy they didnt like, but their politicians voted for, and Republicans arent even going to have to lift a finger — the crook Obama is going to get himself impeached! And the liberals darling Patrick Fitzgerald is going to be the man to bring it about!

    I wonder if he can be impeached before he even takes office?

    By the way, look for Obama to make some MAJOR policy announcement today or tomorrow to change the subject, and watch for his entire propaganda operation to go to DEFCON 5.

    All these years listening to libtards wail and gnash their teeth over ficticious corruption charges against Bush, one of our most honest politicians — and now hes going to be sandwiched between two impeached Democrat crooks. I EFFING love it!

    Karma is a bitch!

    Merry Fitzmas Blake!

    Comment by American Elephant — December 10, 2008 @ 3:32 am - December 10, 2008

  30. Filtered.

    Comment by American Elephant — December 10, 2008 @ 3:35 am - December 10, 2008

  31. We don’t know that he didn’t. We don’t yet know what was said between Obama, Mr. Blag, or their underlings. Look, we have far too few details and no real timeline of events yet, so I think it’s wise to hold off on the accusation, lest we end up looking like the BDS infected liberals who screamed “corruption” every time President Bush even sneezed.

    Excellent point, Sonicfrog. Simply talking to Blagojevich should not necessarily imply that Obama had knowledge of Blag’s intentions.

    Comment by Pat — December 10, 2008 @ 8:06 am - December 10, 2008

  32. I was amazed how most of the cable shows tuesday nite talked about this scandal in a lite hearted way. Laughing about Blogoviches comic ineptituded. … Here a Senate seat is up for sale possibly with the knowledge of the next President and every one is yucking it up.

    Well, that’s the left-wing media template, isn’t it? Democrats are good-hearted people, who just care so damned much, and when they are caught doing something despicable it’s just because they’re so darned goofy and warm-hearted they just didn’t know what they were doing.

    Whereas all Republicans are always sinister, always evil, and their corruption springs from their dark, putrid, hate-filled, greedy hearts.

    The news media doesn’t report news, it creates simplistic propaganda cartoons.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2008 @ 8:30 am - December 10, 2008

  33. Grandma’s best saying: “You can’t come from a nest a vipers and vermin and escaped ever playing with snakes and rats”. Obama and his past associations just keep nibbling away at his butt even before it hits the Oval Office chair. Today’s Chicago pols have the Old Mayor Daley beat by a mile; heck, they make New Orleans pols look respectable and the New Jersey mob look workable and accomodating.

    Right, right… innocent until proven guilty. Quick, sell us a bridge or some swampland while the “Stupid and Gullible” stamp is visible on our foreheads.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — December 10, 2008 @ 11:45 am - December 10, 2008

  34. I just want my cohorts here to keep in mind the hysteria of the left over the Ken Lay / George Bush connection. No matter that Bush, in spite of public outcry, made the right decision to let Enron go under (where is that version of Bush today). Also, never mind that Clinton was also involved with political policies that enabled Lay and Co. to follow a flawed business model. Because they had business associations and were both in the energy business, , Bush was automatically labeled as part of the cabal to rip off investors and take away workers jobs.

    My point is – let’s prove that we can be better than the insane leftists.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 10, 2008 @ 12:30 pm - December 10, 2008

  35. This is just more of the same stuff we have been hearing from the MSM without any investigation or digging–Obama, supposedly the most brilliant, omnipotent force in American politics, knows absolutely nothing about anything. Blago’s attempts to sell his Senate seat? Obama knows nothing. The Reverend Wright’s 20-year crusade of anti-American black rage? Obama knew nothing. Williams Ayers’ terrorist acts against the Pentagon, the Capitol, Police agencies and innocent Americans? Obama knew nothing.

    This is in stark contrast to the MSM’s stories (again, with no investigation or digging) that Bush, the biggest, blithering idiot on the globe, knew about 9/11 and failed to stop it and/or masterminded it to spark his “war for oil,” knew about the “abuses” at Abu Ghraib, etc.

    Comment by Sean A — December 10, 2008 @ 2:24 pm - December 10, 2008

  36. filtered…

    Comment by Sean A — December 10, 2008 @ 2:25 pm - December 10, 2008

  37. Interesting: In 2005, David Axelrod penned an editorial defending pay-for-play politics.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2008 @ 4:13 pm - December 10, 2008

  38. Right, right… innocent until proven guilty. Quick, sell us a bridge or some swampland while the “Stupid and Gullible” stamp is visible on our foreheads.

    Yeah, Matt, the Duke Lacrosse players would appreciate that, I’m sure.

    Comment by Pat — December 10, 2008 @ 7:11 pm - December 10, 2008

  39. Funny that you say that, Pat, because all the desperate Democrats who are spinning now to cover up for Obama, including Obama, were the ones screaming for the heads of the Duke lacrosse players.

    Why should they not get the same treatment they gave those players?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 10, 2008 @ 7:48 pm - December 10, 2008

  40. Why should they not get the same treatment they gave those players?

    If you want to, NDT, go for it. You and others are certainly free to behave in a manner that you’ve criticized in others, if you want to join in on the hypocrisy game. In any case, I don’t recall Obama screaming for the heads of the Duke lacrosse players. If he did, well, what comes around goes around.

    Comment by Pat — December 10, 2008 @ 8:12 pm - December 10, 2008

  41. It’s finally sunk in, this blog is meant to be a comedy! wish I’d figured that out before I would have spent less time looking for value.

    Comment by a different Dave — December 10, 2008 @ 8:49 pm - December 10, 2008

  42. The Duke Lacrosse players were slandered and defamed by an overzealous prosecutor so eager to destroy their young lives that he broke the law to make a phony case against them, and an elitist faculty was also eager to sacrifice their young lives on the altar of political correctness, even if they were innocent, to punish them for the crime of being white and male. A vicious media joined in the savaging.

    Barack Obama faces possible embarrassment because a methodical prosecutor who, until yesterday, was a hero of the left, has put together a credible case of corruption against a very sleazy politician who crawled out of the same swamp of Democrat machine politics that Obama did. But a fawning media is bending over backwards to put a firewall between Obama and Blagojavich.

    How are these two cases even remotely similar? Help me out.

    Comment by V the K — December 10, 2008 @ 8:52 pm - December 10, 2008

  43. [...] GayPatriot » More Evidence of Obama’s Good Luck (or Good Timing) If the Republican party cannot find the ability actually to use episodes like this (or Rangel’s corrupt manipulation of the very tax codes he supposedly oversees or any number of other acts of wrongdoing the Democrats seem to pull off … [...]

    Pingback by GayPatriot » More Evidence of Obama’s Good Luck (or Good Timing) — December 10, 2008 @ 11:44 pm - December 10, 2008

  44. It’s finally sunk in, this blog is meant to be a comedy! wish I’d figured that out before I would have spent less time looking for value.

    So that means you’re gone, right? Can’t back up your assertions, so you’re off to the KOShole felch-fest where nobody asks questions, eh?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 11, 2008 @ 2:34 am - December 11, 2008

  45. Barack Obama’s pants are on fire.

    Comment by V the K — December 11, 2008 @ 7:13 am - December 11, 2008

  46. #33 The problem frog is “our guys” resign or are crippled. Did Foley do anything illegal? How bout Larry Craig tarred and feathered for playing footsie. Remember macacca? Allen’s career trashed forevermore over a word equal to any uttered by Jackson or Sharpton. I’m tired of playing nice when the entire MSM and Democrat party are allowed to play with 12 or 13 men on the field and no one ever notices! This guy Obama is such a transformational figure but his friends are Blago, Ayers, Wright, SEI thugs? Come on.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 11, 2008 @ 10:55 am - December 11, 2008

  47. Will Fitzpatrick stick to the case like he did with the master criminal Scooter Libby? He says he wants calls and letters giving more tips and evidence. Will Obama fire him? Will Obama quick appoint him to a Federal judgeship in Peoria? Did Fitzpatrick get pushed into having to investigate or was he lured into wiping out a problem for Obama? Where is Daley in all of this? Has his machine kicked a cog? Did Obama break through to fame and position in contradiction to the Daley blueprint? Other question abound. The MSM isn’t a bit curious.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 11, 2008 @ 11:25 am - December 11, 2008

  48. Obama will be Clintonesque with teflon except that he’s not a Southern cracker. If any of his minions fall on their swords, other minions will rise from the ground as if dragon’s teeth were sewn there. The question is how best to react. Starting the impeachment drumbeat this early doesn’t bode well for the right.

    Comment by Ignatius — December 11, 2008 @ 12:21 pm - December 11, 2008

  49. #28: I f**king love it! Its gonna be the shortest presidency in history!

    Only if The One is impeached and removed from office by February 20. Sadly, I think it’ll take longer than that. Pass the popcorn for Joe Biden’s fast track to the Oval Office.

    Keep in mind that to the media, Democrats are rubber and Republicans are glue. They’ll do everything to cover it up. They’ll claim Sarah Palin collects Pauly Shore movies on DVD and trumpet it on the front page of the Junk Bond Times (formerly the New York Times) until their sheep are worshipping The One again.

    Comment by Attmay — December 11, 2008 @ 1:09 pm - December 11, 2008

  50. I am predicting that soon Barbara Walters or some other “journalist” will “score” an interview where, bathed in soft focus, she can lob softballs at Barry Hussein and Michelle “Anaconda” Obama (every time I see her, I expect her to unhinge her jaw and swallow a live capybara) while those adorable girls who are too good for the public schools play with a puppy in the foreground, and soon all of this pesky business of lying and corruption will be forgotten.

    Comment by V the K — December 11, 2008 @ 1:35 pm - December 11, 2008

  51. The problem frog is “our guys” resign or are crippled. Did Foley do anything illegal? How bout Larry Craig tarred and feathered for playing footsie. Remember macacca? Allen’s career trashed forevermore over a word equal to any uttered by Jackson or Sharpton.

    What have Jackson or Sharpton EVER been elected to??? NOTHING. And they never will. Allen didn’t lose because of uttering the one word. He lost because (A) he was completely unable to adequately explain why he would use this very obscure racist term and (B) even conservatives were making fun of him (Google “Macacawitz”).

    As far as Craig goes, he’s an idiot. He shouldn’t have taken the deal in the first place. My GOD, call your frigging lawyer On The Spot. Of course, those options, you would think, would be the first reaction if he was innocent of the charges, and not, you know, actually guilty.

    As for Foley, if he was a high school teacher, I think you would not want him to stay in a position of influence over teen-agers, even if he hadn’t actually done anything physical. The lewd texts are more than enough.

    All three of your example, according to the standards the Republicans purport to live by, deserved what they got. Democrats have not conflict in this regard, because they don’t make having super high morals a top priority of the party. That’s why you can have Marion Barry as mayor of DC, even after getting busted for cocaine possession. It’s why the indestructible Barney Frank is still Senator even after running a gay brothel from his house. Their party doesn’t make a big deal about morals, so it’s not as much an issue to them and the liberal leaning press. It’s not just the breach of morals that draws the coverage to Republicans, it’s the perceived hypocrisy of the religious right wingers that is so juicy to the press (see Rev. Ted Haggard). And with the advent of Prop 8, expect it to get much worse.

    Look, I’m not saying the Republican party should give up the moral high ground and become Democrats, (though I wish they would put its religious tendencies on the back burner, rebuild, and become the party of fiscal responsibility) but here’s the deal. As long as the Republican party chooses to hold itself up as the party of God and stronger moral values, those that prove themselves less than stellar in this regard will be made an example of. They put themselves in this position. Deal with it.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 11, 2008 @ 1:53 pm - December 11, 2008

  52. Oops. All Irishmen look alike. I meant Fitzgerald.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 11, 2008 @ 6:42 pm - December 11, 2008

  53. Holy crow frog, speaking of holding ones self up as the party of God, which American family is considered the most Iconic???huh huh
    how bout the Kennedy’s. For God sake Teddy killed a woman, ran and never paid a price of any kind for it!!!!

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 12, 2008 @ 3:56 pm - December 12, 2008

  54. The Democrats are the party of the PEOPLE but are populated by huge bloated millionaires. The Dems have enough hypocracy to spread around their own members.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — December 12, 2008 @ 3:58 pm - December 12, 2008

  55. sonicfrog, you’re right on the notion of the GOP trying to claim to be on God’s right hand, hold the moral high ground, demand obedience to God’s will from all –save them, of course, when the camera lights are off… but doesn’t it trouble you that in these Blagojevich or Spitzer scandals, the MSM seemed hard pressed to even acknowledge these men were Democrats… and even faster in the story cycle to distance Obama from the taint… in fact, in the 2nd 24 hr news cycle, THE story was how Obama was hated, loathed and wouldn’t play Chicago ball with Blagojevich. The same was true for Hillary with the Spitzer scandal. Remember how the MSM pro-Democrat press tried to portray Spitzer as outside the Democrat Party and someone who had no friends… yet he got elected Gov. Like Blagojevich in this latest scandal… somehow these isolated, untouched ones get to be Party bosses and Governors, no less.

    I recall though that the Larry Craig news usually began with “Republican Senator Larry Craig…” and then jumped to the slimely stuff of whether a double-double shoe tap meant fisting safe or just frottage sans trousers.

    I’d ask your earlier question differently… why did the Gov think Obama’s people would play the play-to-pay game with him since Obama had already announced his pick of successor on Veterans Day? Look, Obama and his people won’t be clean when this is over… will the press or Americans care? Nope. They didn’t with Wright. Nor Ayers. Nor Resko. Nor ACORN. They won’t with Blagojevich.

    Hope and Change trumps the old politics of division and cynicism? I still think you can’t be from the vermin and viper pits and contend a rat or snake never touched you.

    And VdaK may be right… if the heat lingers, the MSM can always do a sensitive piece on the wife, on the kids, on the friends in grammar school that they’ll be missing… on the new pooch… on Obama’s quandry over whether to kick the habit or not… or how much Michelle inspires the French to see her as the new Jackie… or the White House Dream Team in B’Ball.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — December 17, 2008 @ 12:25 pm - December 17, 2008

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